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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #105 on: February 24, 2021, 07:32:56 AM »
Division 3 Week 8 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56232.0
1.   Paralyzed defeats Ravenskill 16-8 
2.   Wither defeats Hollow Years 13-11
3.   Ytse Jam & The Gift of Music tied 12-12
4.   Out of Reach defeats Vacant 13-11
5.   Lord Nafaryus defeats A Better Life 12-10
6.   One Last Time defeats Three Days 16-8 
7.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Dystopian Overture 21-3 
8.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats New Millennium 15-9
9.   The Bigger Picture defeats Raise the Knife 12-11
10.   The Enemy Inside defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 17-6
11.   Constant Motion defeats Beneath the Surface 15-9 
12.   The Silent Man defeats Forsaken 14-10 
13.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats A Life Left Behind 14-9 
14.   Only a Matter of Time defeats The Path That Divides 13-10
15.   Through Her Eyes defeats Honor Thy Father 15-9
16.   The Killing Hand defeats The Shattered Fortress 14-9


Division 3 Standings after Week 8 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Sacrificed Sons 8-0 (+96)
2. The Killing Hand 8-0 (+54) 
3. Only a Matter of Time 8-0 (+46)
4. Raise the Knife 7-1 (+49)
5. Lost Not Forgotten 7-1 (+29)   
6. Ytse Jam 6-1-1 (+32)
7. One Last Time 6-2 (+54)
8. Wither 6-2 (+14)
9. Through Her Eyes 5-2-1 (+18)
10. Honor Thy Father 5-2-1 (+1)
11. Beneath the Surface 5-3 (+19) 
12. The Shattered Fortress 5-3 (+12)
13. The Silent Man 4-2-2 (+10) 
14. The Enemy Inside 5-3 (+1)
15. The Path That Divides 4-3-1 (-2)
16. A Nightmare to Remember 4-4 (+9)
17. The Gift of Music 3-4-1 (-5)
18. Constant Motion 3-4-1 (-11) 
19. The Bigger Picture 3-5 (-2)
20. New Millennium 3-5 (-11)
21. Out of Reach 3-5 (-14)
22. Hollow Years 2-5-1 (+11)
23. Three Days 2-5-1 (-11)
24. Vacant 2-5-1 (-25) 
25. Paralyzed 2-6 (-31)
26. Lord Nafaryus 1-6-1 (-42) 
27. A Life Left Behind 1-7 (-15)
28. Forsaken 1-7 (-23)   
29. A Better Life 1-7 (-49) 
30. Dystopian Overture 1-7 (-58)
31. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 1-7 (-87)
32. Ravenskill 0-8 (-51)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #106 on: February 24, 2021, 07:50:51 AM »
Nothing changes at the top or at the bottom, but Raise the Knife, while still maintaing the top 4 slot, gives way with a defeat!

Ravenskill being the very last still displeases me. Such as seing A Life Left Behind above A Better Life, I think Better is, ehr, the better song out of the two.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #107 on: February 25, 2021, 07:31:49 AM »
Division 2 Week 8 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56235.0
1.   As I Am defeats Pale Blue Dot 13-11 
2.   Overture 1928 defeats S2N 15-9
3.   Peruvian Skies defeats Endless Sacrifice 13-11 
4.   Outcry defeats Surrender to Reason 14-10 
5.   Hellís Kitchen defeats This is the Life 18-6
6.   Panic Attack & Barstool Warrior tied 12-12 
7.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Untethered Angel 18-6
8.   Stream of Consciousness defeats On the Backs of Angels 16-8
9.   Fall into the Light defeats Behind the Veil 16-8
10.   Strange Deja vu defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 19-5 
11.   The Root of All Evil defeats Caught in a Web 16-8
12.   These Walls defeats A New Beginning 15-9
13.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Lie 13-11
14.   The Great Debate defeats Wait For Sleep 14-10
15.   This Dying Soul & Another Day tied 12-12 
16.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Innocence Faded 16-8


Division 2 Standings after Week 8 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Strange dťjŗ vu 8-0 (+109)
2. Space-Dye Vest 8-0 (+77) 
3. The Root of All Evil 7-0-1 (+59)
4. Overture 1928 7-0-1 (+48)
5. Hellís Kitchen 6-0-2 (+47)
6. Stream of Consciousness 6-1-1 (+57)
7. Panic Attack 6-1-1 (+43)
8. Wait for Sleep 6-2 (+40)
9. The Great Debate 6-2 (+32)
10. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 5-1-2 (+15)
11. This Dying Soul 4-2-2 (+17)
12. Endless Sacrifice 4-2-2 (+7)
13. Another Day 3-2-3 (+32) 
14. The Dance of Eternity 4-4 (+11)
15. Pale Blue Dot 4-4 (+6)
16 Caught in a Web 4-4 (0)   
17. Peruvian Skies 4-4 (-23)   
18. These Walls 3-4-1 (-3)
19. On the Backs of Angels 3-5 (-9)
20. Barstool Warrior 1-3-4 (-11)
21. Lie 3-5 (-12) 
22. As I Am 3-5 (-16)     
23. A New Beginning 2-5-1 (-23) 
24. Innocence Faded 2-5-1 (-33)
25. S2N 2-6 (-25)
26. Fall into the Light 2-6 (-39)
27. This is the Life 2-6 (-64)
28. Outcry 1-7 (-37) 
29. The Ministry of Lost Souls 0-7-1 (-61) 
30. Surrender to Reason 0-7-1 (-70)
31. Behind the Veil 0-8 (-87)
32. Untethered Angel 0-8 (-91) 

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #108 on: February 25, 2021, 07:35:50 AM »
The SDV rule continues unopposed.

At the bottom, Outcry manages to move away from the hot zone, at Ministry's disadvantage! (now the only Portnoy song at risk)
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #109 on: February 26, 2021, 06:58:12 AM »
Division 1 Week 8 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56238.0
1.   Erotomania defeats 6:00 13-11
2.   The Mirror defeats At Witís End 15-9
3.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Disappear 17-7
4.   The Count of Tuscany defeats In the Name of God 15-9
5.   A Change of Seasons defeats Surrounded 21-3
6.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Lines in the Sand 15-9 
7.   Octavarium defeats Bridges in the Sky 21-3
8.   Learning to Live defeats Pull Me Under 22-1
9.   Metropolis defeats Beyond This Life 18-6 
10.   Trial of Tears defeats Misunderstood 19-5 
11.   The Glass Prison defeats In the Presence of Enemies 13-11 
12.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Illumination Theory 15-9 
13.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Blind Faith 13-11
14.   Finally Free defeats The Spirit Carries On 17-7 
15.   Scarred defeats Home 13-11
16.   Voices defeats Take the Time 14-10



Division 1 Standings after Week 8 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. A Change of Seasons 8-0 (+140)
2. Learning to Live 8-0 (+118) 
3. Metropolis 8-0 (+115)
4. Octavarium 8-0 (+106)
5. Breaking All Illusions 7-1 (+76)
6. Voices 7-1 (+30)
7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 5-2-1 (+24)
8. The Count of Tuscany 5-2-1 (+22)
9. Home 5-2-1 (+17)    
10. Finally Free 5-3 (+13) 
11. Take the Time 5-3 (-4)
12. Surrounded 5-3 (-7)
13. Scarred 5-3 (-16)
14. Trial of Tears 4-3-1 (+11)
15. Fatal Tragedy 4-4 (+15)
16. The Mirror 4-4 (+1) 
17. The Spirit Carries On 4-4 (-2)
18. Beyond this Life 4-4 (-10) 
19. Under a Glass Moon 3-3-2 (-19)   
20. In the Presence of Enemies 3-4-1 (-13)   
21. Blind Faith 3-4-1 (-26) 
22. The Glass Prison 3-5 (-30) 
23. Erotomania 3-5 (-40) 
24. Lines in the Sand 2-5-1 (-24)   
25. Pull Me Under 2-5-1 (-65)
26. At Witís End 1-7 (-53)
27. 6:00 1-7 (-60)
28. In the Name of God 0-7-1 (-47)
29. Illumination Theory 0-7-1 (-62)
30. Bridges in the Sky 0-8 (-68)
31. Disappear 0-8 (-71)
32. Misunderstood 0-8 (-91)



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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #110 on: February 26, 2021, 07:12:19 AM »
Nothing stops the Big 4... and nothing seems to save the "Last 4" it seems!

While Breaking All Illusions is the only Mangini song at the top and more generally the best performing song post-Score, The Count of Tuscany is the other post-Score song in the top 10, at a very respectable 8th place, considering that the third post-Score song is 20th.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #111 on: February 26, 2021, 05:52:47 PM »
I'm mostly ok with the bottom 4 here. The only difference is that I'd replace Illumination Theory with 6:00.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #112 on: February 27, 2021, 08:57:55 AM »
The Albums Ė Week 6 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56239.0
1.   Awake defeats Dream Theater 24-1 
2.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats When Dream and Day Unite 21-4 
3.   Octavarium defeats Systematic Chaos 19-6 
4.   Images and Words defeats Distance over Time 22-3 
5.   A Dramatic Turn of Events defeats Falling into Infinity 15-10
6.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats The Astonishing 24-1   
7.   Train of Thought defeats Black Clouds & Silver Linings 18-7 



The Album Standings after Week 6 of 13.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each album (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 8 albums at seasonís end advance to the Album Championship Tournament.


1. Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 6-0 (+137)
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 6-0 (+97)
3. Images & Words 6-0 (+91) 
4. Awake 4-2 (+45)
5. Octavarium 4-2 (+21)
6. A Dramatic Turn of Events 4-2 (+4)
7. Train of Thought 3-3 (-23)   
8. Black Clouds & Silver Lining 3-3 (-40)
9. Distance over Time 2-4 (-28) 
10. Falling Into Infinity 2-4 (-39) 
11. When Dream and Day Unite 1-5 (-45)
12. Dream Theater 1-5 (-57)
13. Systematic Chaos 0-6 (-74)
14. The Astonishing 0-6 (-89)




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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #113 on: February 27, 2021, 11:50:16 AM »
Just some movements in the middle, but for the rest the album standing remains the same since last week.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #114 on: February 27, 2021, 12:01:05 PM »
I'm honestly kinda surprised that Six Degrees is up there with the twin peak legends of I&W and SFAM. I would've assumed the title track taking up the entire second half would drag the album's rating down. Or is disc 1 so great that the title track's apparent genericity doesn't matter?

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #115 on: February 27, 2021, 12:33:46 PM »
I'm honestly kinda surprised that Six Degrees is up there with the twin peak legends of I&W and SFAM. I would've assumed the title track taking up the entire second half would drag the album's rating down. Or is disc 1 so great that the title track's apparent genericity doesn't matter?

The title track of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is the greatest song on the album to me, and I'd consider it one of the greatest pieces of music ever made.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #116 on: February 27, 2021, 05:39:04 PM »
I'm honestly kinda surprised that Six Degrees is up there with the twin peak legends of I&W and SFAM. I would've assumed the title track taking up the entire second half would drag the album's rating down. Or is disc 1 so great that the title track's apparent genericity doesn't matter?

I imagine the greatness of disc 2 pumps up the votes despite disc 1 closing with a couple very weak songs.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #117 on: February 27, 2021, 05:45:25 PM »
I'm honestly kinda surprised that Six Degrees is up there with the twin peak legends of I&W and SFAM. I would've assumed the title track taking up the entire second half would drag the album's rating down. Or is disc 1 so great that the title track's apparent genericity doesn't matter?
I imagine the greatness of disc 2 pumps up the votes despite disc 1 closing with a couple very weak songs.
Not in my case. If split apart as separate releases, disc 1 would be at the top of the list and disc 2 near the bottom. Disappear is probably my favorite of their ballads and I rate it extremely high, and I also really like TGD a lot. Can't say the same for disc 2, altho it has grown on me over time.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #118 on: February 27, 2021, 05:59:26 PM »
I'm honestly kinda surprised that Six Degrees is up there with the twin peak legends of I&W and SFAM. I would've assumed the title track taking up the entire second half would drag the album's rating down. Or is disc 1 so great that the title track's apparent genericity doesn't matter?
I imagine the greatness of disc 2 pumps up the votes despite disc 1 closing with a couple very weak songs.
Not in my case. If split apart as separate releases, disc 1 would be at the top of the list and disc 2 near the bottom. Disappear is probably my favorite of their ballads and I rate it extremely high, and I also really like TGD a lot. Can't say the same for disc 2, altho it has grown on me over time.

SDOIT as a single-disc album without TGD and Disappear would probably rank above SFAM as my favorite DT album.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #119 on: March 03, 2021, 07:27:30 AM »
Division 1 Week 9 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56245.0
1.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Ravenskill 19-5
2.   Paralyzed defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 16-9
3.   Wither defeats A Better Life 14-11
4.   Honor Thy Father defeats Three Days 14-10 
5.   Ytse Jam defeats Dystopian Overture 18-7 
6.   The Killing Hand defeats The Gift of Music 17-8
7.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Vacant 13-12
8.   Through Her Eyes defeats Constant Motion 14-11 
9.   Hollow Years defeats Forsaken 14-11
10.   Out of Reach defeats A Life Left Behind 13-12 
11.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Lord Nafaryus 15-9 
12.   One Last Time defeats The Silent Man 18-7 
13.   New Millennium defeats The Shattered Fortress 14-11
14.   The Path That Divides defeats The Bigger Picture 14-11
15.   Raise the Knife defeats The Enemy Inside 14-9 
16.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Beneath the Surface 14-11 


Division 3 Standings after Week 9 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Sacrificed Sons 9-0 (+99)
2. The Killing Hand 9-0 (+63) 
3. Only a Matter of Time 9-0 (+47)
4. Raise the Knife 8-1 (+54)
5. Lost Not Forgotten 8-1 (+35)   
6. Ytse Jam 7-1-1 (+43)
7. One Last Time 7-2 (+65)
8. Wither 7-2 (+17)
9. Through Her Eyes 6-2-1 (+21)
10. Honor Thy Father 6-2-1 (+5)
11. The Path That Divides 5-3-1 (+1)
12. A Nightmare to Remember 5-4 (+23)
13. The Silent Man 4-3-2 (+21) 
14. Beneath the Surface 5-4 (+16) 
15. The Shattered Fortress 5-4 (+9)
16. The Enemy Inside 5-4 (-4)
17. New Millennium 4-5 (-8)
18. Out of Reach 4-5 (-13)
19. Hollow Years 3-5-1 (+14)
20. Constant Motion 3-5-1 (-14) 
20. The Gift of Music 3-5-1 (-14)
22. The Bigger Picture 3-6 (-5)
23. Paralyzed 3-6 (-24)
24. Three Days 2-6-1 (-15)
25. Vacant 2-6-1 (-26) 
26. Lord Nafaryus 1-7-1 (-48) 
27. A Life Left Behind 1-8 (-16)
28. Forsaken 1-8 (-26)   
29. A Better Life 1-8 (-52) 
30. Dystopian Overture 1-8 (-69)
31. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 1-8 (-94)
32. Ravenskill 0-9 (-65)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #120 on: March 03, 2021, 07:29:18 AM »
Sacrificed Sons keeps the lead after a narrow victory over Beneath the Surface.

Gaaah, Ravenskill is the very last and the only song to have never won a single match!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #121 on: March 04, 2021, 06:50:33 AM »
Division 2 Week 9 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56247.0
1.   Overture 1928 defeats On the Backs of Angels 15-7 
2.   This Dying Soul defeats Behind the Veil 13-9
3.   Pale Blue Dot defeats Fall into the Light 13-9 
4.   Another Day & S2N tied 11-11
5.   Peruvian Skies defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 15-6 
6.   Caught in a Web defeats Surrender to Reason 14-8
7.   These Walls defeats Innocence Faded 12-10
8.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats This is the Life 15-7
9.   The Root of All Evil defeats Untethered Angel 21-1 
10.   Barstool Warrior defeats Lie 14-8   
11.   Hellís Kitchen defeats As I Am 14-8 
12.   Wait For Sleep defeats Outcry 15-6
13.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Endless Sacrifice 14-8 
14.   The Great Debate defeats A New Beginning 14-8 
15.   Strange Deja vu defeats Stream of Consciousness 18-4 
16.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Panic Attack 15-7 


Division 2 Standings after Week 9 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Strange dťjŗ vu 9-0 (+123)
2. Space-Dye Vest 9-0 (+85) 
3. The Root of All Evil 8-0-1 (+79)
4. Overture 1928 8-0-1 (+56)
5. Hellís Kitchen 7-0-2 (+53)
6. Wait for Sleep 7-2 (+49)
7. The Great Debate 7-2 (+38)
8. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 6-1-2 (+23)
9. Stream of Consciousness 6-2-1 (+43)
10. Panic Attack 6-2-1 (+35)
11. This Dying Soul 5-2-2 (+21)
12. Another Day 3-2-4 (+32) 
13. The Dance of Eternity 5-4 (+17)
14. Pale Blue Dot 5-4 (+10)
15 Caught in a Web 5-4 (+6)   
16. Endless Sacrifice 4-3-2 (+1)
17. Peruvian Skies 5-4 (-14)   
18. These Walls 4-4-1 (-1)
19. Barstool Warrior 2-3-4 (-5)
20. On the Backs of Angels 3-6 (-17)
21. Lie 3-6 (-18) 
22. As I Am 3-6 (-22)     
23. S2N 2-6-1 (-25)
24. A New Beginning 2-6-1 (-29) 
25. Innocence Faded 2-6-1 (-35)
26. Fall into the Light 2-7 (-43)
27. This is the Life 2-7 (-72)
28. Outcry 1-8 (-46) 
29. The Ministry of Lost Souls 0-8-1 (-70) 
30. Surrender to Reason 0-8-1 (-76)
31. Behind the Veil 0-9 (-83)
32. Untethered Angel 0-9 (-111) 


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #122 on: March 04, 2021, 06:54:20 AM »
Nobody stops the SDV train!

Only two songs with a perfect score, and only two songs with nothing but losses.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #123 on: March 04, 2021, 07:27:04 AM »
SoC and Panic Attack being the only losers in the top ten - against the SDVs.
Endless Sacrifice takes a huge step down from 12. to 16.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #124 on: March 04, 2021, 09:39:38 AM »
Nobody stops the SDV train!

It is a truly bizarre world where Space-Dye Vest beats Panic Attack.  Seriously...WTF?!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #125 on: March 05, 2021, 07:54:16 AM »
Division 1 Week 9 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56249.0
1.   A Change of Seasons defeats Pull Me Under 19-4 
2.   Lines in the Sand defeats Bridges in the Sky 14-9 
3.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Misunderstood 16-7 
4.   Surrounded defeats Erotomania 16-7 
5.   Metropolis defeats 6:00 21-2 
6.   At Witís End defeats Illumination Theory 12-11 
7.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Blind Faith 16-7
8.   Octavarium defeats Beyond This Life 19-4 
9.   Take the Time defeats The Glass Prison 14-9 
10.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Disappear 16-7 
11.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats In the Name of God 12-11
12.   Learning to Live defeats The Spirit Carries On 18-5
13.   Home defeats The Mirror 13-10
14.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Trial of Tears 15-8 
15.   Voices defeats Fatal Tragedy 13-10 
16.   Scarred defeats Finally Free 12-11


Division 1 Standings after Week 9 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. A Change of Seasons 9-0 (+155)
2. Metropolis 9-0 (+134)
3. Learning to Live 9-0 (+131) 
4. Octavarium 9-0 (+121)
5. Breaking All Illusions 8-1 (+83)
6. Voices 8-1 (+33)
7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 6-2-1 (+33)
8. The Count of Tuscany 6-2-1 (+31)
9. Home 6-2-1 (+20)    
10. Surrounded 6-3 (+2)
11. Take the Time 6-3 (+1)
12. Scarred 6-3 (-15)
11. Finally Free 5-4 (+12) 
14. Under a Glass Moon 4-3-2 (-10)   
15. Trial of Tears 4-4-1 (+4)
16. In the Presence of Enemies 4-4-1 (-12)   
17. Fatal Tragedy 4-5 (+12)
18. The Mirror 4-5 (-2) 
19. The Spirit Carries On 4-5 (-15)
20. Beyond this Life 4-5 (-25) 
21. Lines in the Sand 3-5-1 (-19)   
22. Blind Faith 3-5-1 (-35) 
23. The Glass Prison 3-6 (-35) 
24. Erotomania 3-6 (-49) 
25. Pull Me Under 2-6-1 (-80)
26. At Witís End 2-7 (-52)
27. 6:00 1-8 (-79)
28. In the Name of God 0-8-1 (-48)
29. Illumination Theory 0-8-1 (-63)
30. Bridges in the Sky 0-9 (-73)
31. Disappear 0-9 (-80)
32. Misunderstood 0-9 (-100)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #126 on: March 05, 2021, 07:57:18 AM »
Seems like nothing is gonna stop the Big 4 unless a direct match. However Metropolis by votes difference gains a slot over Learning to Live!

The Count of Tuscany continues to be the "best post-Score song which isn't Breaking All Illusions" performing well amidsts a bunch of super classics.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #127 on: March 05, 2021, 09:01:12 AM »
AWE scores an important, and very close, win to keep away from the regulation zone - to the disadvantage of IT.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #128 on: March 06, 2021, 06:48:58 AM »
11.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats In the Name of God 12-11

I'm quite surprised by this.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #129 on: March 06, 2021, 09:31:18 AM »
The Albums Ė Week 7 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56254.0
1.   Dream Theater defeats The Astonishing 11-10 
2.   Falling into Infinity defeats Systematic Chaos 12-10 
3.   A Dramatic Turn of Events defeats When Dream and Day Unite 17-5
4.   Awake defeats Black Clouds & Silver Linings 16-6 
5.   Distance over Time defeats Train of Thought 13-9
6.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats Octavarium 20-2 
7.   Images and Words defeats Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 14-8 



The Album Standings after Week 7 of 13.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each album (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 8 albums at seasonís end advance to the Album Championship Tournament.


1. Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 7-0 (+155)
2. Images & Words 7-0 (+97) 
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 6-1 (+91) 
4. Awake 5-2 (+55)
5. A Dramatic Turn of Events 5-2 (+16) 
6. Octavarium 4-3 (+3)
7. Distance over Time 3-4 (-24) 
8. Train of Thought 3-4 (-27)   
9. Falling Into Infinity 3-4 (-37)   
10. Black Clouds & Silver Lining 3-4 (-50)
11. Dream Theater 2-5 (-56)
12. When Dream and Day Unite 1-6 (-57)
13. Systematic Chaos 0-7 (-76)
14. The Astonishing 0-7 (-90)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #130 on: March 06, 2021, 10:33:14 AM »
Gah, The Astonishing came THIS close to snatch a win! or at least a draw.

Six Degrees' loss means that the ranking has not gaps anymore, every number from 0 to 7 is represented when it comes to victories...
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #131 on: March 06, 2021, 10:40:11 AM »
Gah, The Astonishing came THIS close to snatch a win! or at least a draw.

SC v. TA should be riveting.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #132 on: March 06, 2021, 06:42:58 PM »
Gah, The Astonishing came THIS close to snatch a win! or at least a draw.

SC v. TA should be riveting.

If TA doesnít win that one it isnít winning at all.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #133 on: March 10, 2021, 07:33:20 AM »
Division 3 Week 10 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56264.0
1.   New Millennium defeats Out of Reach 16-7
2.   Build Me Up, Break Me Down defeats A Better Life 15-8
3.   The Bigger Picture defeats Three Days 14-9 
4.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Dystopian Overture 14-9 
5.   Beneath the Surface defeats Paralyzed 13-10
6.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Ravenskill 19-4 
7.   Through Her Eyes defeats The Enemy Inside 12-11
8.   The Killing Hand defeats Vacant 16-7 
9.   The Shattered Fortress defeats The Gift of Music 14-9 
10.   Raise the Knife defeats Hollow Years 12-10 
11.   Ytse Jam defeats A Life Left Behind 16-7
12.   Honor Thy Father defeats Forsaken 14-9
13.   Constant Motion defeats Wither 13-10
14.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Lord Nafaryus 16-7 
15.   The Path That Divides defeats The Silent Man 12-11
16.   Only a Matter of Time defeats One Last Time 13-10


Division 3 Standings after Week 10 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Sacrificed Sons 10-0 (+108)
2. The Killing Hand 10-0 (+72) 
3. Only a Matter of Time 10-0 (+50)
4. Raise the Knife 9-1 (+56)
5. Lost Not Forgotten 9-1 (+50)   
6. Ytse Jam 8-1-1 (+52)
7. Through Her Eyes 7-2-1 (+22)
8. Honor Thy Father 7-2-1 (+10)
9. One Last Time 7-3 (+62)
10. Wither 7-3 (+14)
11. The Path That Divides 6-3-1 (+2)
12. A Nightmare to Remember 6-4 (+28)
13. Beneath the Surface 6-4 (+19) 
14. The Shattered Fortress 6-4 (+14)
15. The Silent Man 4-4-2 (+20) 
16. New Millennium 5-5 (+1)
17. The Enemy Inside 5-5 (-5)
18. Constant Motion 4-5-1 (-11) 
19. The Bigger Picture 4-6 (0)
20. Out of Reach 4-6 (-22)
21. Hollow Years 3-6-1 (+16)
22. The Gift of Music 3-6-1 (-19)
23. Paralyzed 3-7 (-27)
24. Three Days 2-7-1 (-20)
25. Vacant 2-7-1 (-35) 
26. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 2-8 (-87)
27. Lord Nafaryus 1-8-1 (-57) 
28. A Life Left Behind 1-9 (-25)
29. Forsaken 1-9 (-31)   
30. A Better Life 1-9 (-59) 
31. Dystopian Overture 1-9 (-74)
32. Ravenskill 0-10 (-80)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #134 on: March 10, 2021, 07:43:04 AM »
Ouch, out of the last 6 spots, 5 are taken by Astonishing songs.

And in the red zone there two of the best songs of the album (A Better Life and the very last, Ravenskill), but evidently my opinion about those songs is not the mainstream one....
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #135 on: March 10, 2021, 09:21:52 AM »
Ouch, out of the last 6 spots, 5 are taken by Astonishing songs.

Possibly the most predictable thing in this whole league.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #136 on: March 11, 2021, 07:31:38 AM »
Division 2 Week 10 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56266.0
1.   Stream of Consciousness defeats This is the Life 17-5 
2.   Innocence Faded defeats Behind the Veil 14-8 
3.   The Great Debate defeats As I Am 12-10   
4.   Barstool Warrior defeats Untethered Angel 19-2
5.   This Dying Soul defeats Surrender to Reason 14-8 
6.   The Root of All Evil defeats S2N 16-6
7.   Pale Blue Dot defeats A New Beginning 14-8
8.   Overture 1928 defeats Lie 12-10
9.   These Walls defeats Outcry 12-10 
10.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Caught in a Web 13-9
11.   Hellís Kitchen defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 15-7
12.   Wait For Sleep defeats Fall into the Light 14-8
13.   The Dance of Eternity defeats On the Backs of Angels 16-6
14.   Strange Deja vu defeats Peruvian Skies 17-5
15.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Endless Sacrifice 12-10 
16.   Another Day defeats Panic Attack 13-9


Division 2 Standings after Week 10 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Strange dťjŗ vu 10-0 (+135)
2. Space-Dye Vest 10-0 (+89) 
3. The Root of All Evil 9-0-1 (+89)
4. Overture 1928 9-0-1 (+58)
5. Hellís Kitchen 8-0-2 (+61)
6. Wait for Sleep 8-2 (+55)
7. The Great Debate 8-2 (+40)
8. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 7-1-2 (+25)
9. Stream of Consciousness 7-2-1 (+55)
10. This Dying Soul 6-2-2 (+27)
11. Panic Attack 6-3-1 (+31)
12. Another Day 4-2-4 (+36) 
13. The Dance of Eternity 6-4 (+27)
14. Pale Blue Dot 6-4 (+16)
15. These Walls 5-4-1 (+1)
16. Barstool Warrior 3-3-4 (+12)
17 Caught in a Web 5-5 (+2)   
18. Endless Sacrifice 4-4-2 (-1)
19. Peruvian Skies 5-5 (-26)   
20. Innocence Faded 3-6-1 (-29)
21. Lie 3-7 (-20) 
22. As I Am 3-7 (-24)     
23. On the Backs of Angels 3-7 (-27)
24. A New Beginning 2-7-1 (-35) 
25. S2N 2-7-1 (-35)
26. Fall into the Light 2-8 (-49)
27. This is the Life 2-8 (-84)
28. Outcry 1-9 (-48) 
29. The Ministry of Lost Souls 0-9-1 (-78) 
30. Surrender to Reason 0-9-1 (-82)
31. Behind the Veil 0-10 (-89)
32. Untethered Angel 0-10 (-128) 

Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #137 on: March 11, 2021, 01:47:17 PM »
With a landslide win over UA and a lot of draws throughout the tournament BW reaches a play off spot. We'll see if it can hold it. Yes, we shall see.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #138 on: March 12, 2021, 07:16:40 AM »
Division 1 Week 10 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56270.0
1.   The Glass Prison defeats Blind Faith 13-9 
2.   At Witís End defeats 6:00 12-10
3.   Lines in the Sand defeats Erotomania 15-7
4.   Voices defeats Misunderstood 18-4
5.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Disappear 15-7 
6.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Pull Me Under 16-6 
7.   Illumination Theory & Bridges in the Sky tied 11-11 
8.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Surrounded 17-5
9.   The Mirror defeats Beyond This Life 13-9
10.   Home defeats In the Name of God 16-6
11.   Learning to Live defeats Under a Glass Moon 17-4 
12.   A Change of Seasons defeats Trial of Tears 18-4
13.   Scarred defeats In the Presence of Enemies 14-7
14.   Take the Time defeats The Spirit Carries On 20-2 
15.   Finally Free defeats The Count of Tuscany 12-10
16.   Metropolis defeats Octavarium 14-8 


Division 1 Standings after Week 10 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. A Change of Seasons 10-0 (+169)
2. Learning to Live 10-0 (+144)
3. Metropolis 10-0 (+140)
4. Octavarium 9-1 (+115)
5. Breaking All Illusions 9-1 (+91)
6. Voices 9-1 (+47)
7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 7-2-1 (+45)
8. Home 7-2-1 (+30)
9. Take the Time 7-3 (+21)
10. Scarred 7-3 (-8)
11. The Count of Tuscany 6-3-1 (+29)
12. Finally Free 6-4 (+14) 
13. Surrounded 6-4 (-10)
14. Fatal Tragedy 5-5 (+22)
15. The Mirror 5-5 (+2) 
16. Under a Glass Moon 4-4-2 (-23)   
17. Trial of Tears 4-5-1 (-10)
18. Lines in the Sand 4-5-1 (-11)   
19. In the Presence of Enemies 4-5-1 (-19)   
20. Beyond this Life 4-6 (-29) 
21. The Glass Prison 4-6 (-31)   
22. The Spirit Carries On 4-6 (-35)
23. Blind Faith 3-6-1 (-39) 
24. At Witís End 3-7 (-50)
25. Erotomania 3-7 (-57) 
26. Pull Me Under 2-7-1 (-90)
27. Illumination Theory 0-8-2 (-63)
28. 6:00 1-9 (-81)
29. In the Name of God 0-9-1 (-58)
30. Bridges in the Sky 0-9-1 (-73)
31. Disappear 0-10 (-88)
32. Misunderstood 0-10 (-114)


Halfway through the regular season.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #139 on: March 12, 2021, 07:21:02 AM »
The first big match at the top decides that the leading group is now made of three songs - out Octavarium, that still keeps a top 4 slot but now counts a defeat at the hands of Metropolis.

Kinda surprised to see In The Name of God in danger of relegation, but again, this is the heavyweight division, every song continously losing would be a surprise....
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