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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2021, 02:50:35 PM »
The one that's out of whack for me is Constant Motion.  1-3-1?  I know most folks like ITPOE, but Constant Motion is, for me, the best song on SC by miles.
I've always liked the instrumental section of Constant Motion, but I can't stand the rest of the song.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2021, 07:42:00 AM »
Division 2 Week 5 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56173.0
1.   The Great Debate defeats Untethered Angel 18-6 
2.   Panic Attack defeats Fall into the Light 15-8 
3.   Space-Dye Vest defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 18-6
4.   Caught in a Web defeats Outcry 15-9
5.   Endless Sacrifice defeats These Walls 13-11
6.   Pale Blue Dot defeats Lie 16-8
7.   S2N defeats A New Beginning 16-8
8.   The Root of All Evil defeats Peruvian Skies 17-7
9.   Strange Deja vu defeats Surrender to Reason 21-3
10.   This Dying Soul defeats Innocence Faded 13-10
11.   This is the Life defeats Behind the Veil 13-11 
12.   Stream of Consciousness & Barstool Warrior tied 12-12 
13.   The Dance of Eternity defeats As I Am 14-10
14.   Wait For Sleep defeats On the Backs of Angels 16-8 
15.   Overture 1928 & Lifting Shadows off a Dream tied 12-12
16.   Another Day & Hellís Kitchen tied 12-12


Division 2 Standings after Week 5 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Strange dťjŗ vu 5-0 (+71)
2. Space-Dye Vest 5-0 (+59) 
3. Wait For Sleep 5-0 (+44)
4. The Great Debate 5-0 (+40)
5. The Root of All Evil 5-0 (+39)
6. Stream of Consciousness 4-0-1 (+41)
7. Overture 1928 4-0-1 (+30)
8. Hellís Kitchen 3-0-2 (+29)
9. Panic Attack 4-1 (+27)
10. Another Day 3-1-1 (+34) 
11. Endless Sacrifice 3-1-1 (+3)
12. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 3-1-1 (+1)
13. Pale Blue Dot 3-2 (+9)   
14 Caught in a Web 3-2 (+4)
15. Barstool Warrior 1-1-3 (+3)
16. This Dying Soul 2-2-1 (-1)
17. On the Backs of Angels 2-3 (-1)
18. The Dance of Eternity 2-3 (-3)
19. S2N 2-3 (-5)
19. These Walls 2-3 (-5)
21. Lie 2-3 (-9) 
22. As I Am 1-4 (-20)     
23. A New Beginning 1-4 (-22) 
24. Fall into the Light 1-4 (-25)
25. Innocence Faded 1-4 (-28)
26. Peruvian Skies 1-4 (-31)   
37. This is the Life 1-4 (-51)
28. Surrender to Reason 0-4-1 (-44)
29. Outcry 0-5 (-31) 
30. The Ministry of Lost Souls 0-5 (-46) 
31. Untethered Angel 0-5 (-57) 
32. Behind the Veil 0-5 (-59)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2021, 08:30:08 AM »
The SDV dominion continues. Glad to see Wait for Sleep that high. A bit baffled at The Great Debate being at the top...
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2021, 09:59:37 AM »
4. The Great Debate 5-0 (+40)
. . .

29. Outcry 0-5 (-31) 

Utterly and completely baffling.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2021, 11:26:09 AM »
4. The Great Debate 5-0 (+40)
. . .

29. Outcry 0-5 (-31) 

Utterly and completely baffling.

I don't really like Outcry, and I don't really like The Great Debate, so I agree.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2021, 08:37:55 PM »
4. The Great Debate 5-0 (+40)
. . .

29. Outcry 0-5 (-31) 

Utterly and completely baffling.

I see no problem with this

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2021, 07:25:31 AM »
Division 1 Week 5 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56178.0
1.   Home defeats Lines in the Sand 17-6
2.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Erotomania 15-8 
3.   Pull Me Under defeats The Mirror 12-11
4.   Blind Faith defeats Misunderstood 17-6
5.   The Glass Prison defeats Bridges in the Sky 14-9
6.   Surrounded defeats Illumination Theory 12-11
7.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Scarred 13-10
8.   A Change of Seasons defeats In the Presence of Enemies 19-4 
9.   The Spirit Carries On defeats At Witís End 13-10
10.   6:00 defeats Disappear 13-10
11.   Breaking All Illusions defeats In the Name of God 17-6
12.   Voices defeats Beyond This Life 12-11
13.   Finally Free defeats Fatal Tragedy 12-11
14.   Octavarium defeats Trial of Tears 19-4 
15.   Metropolis defeats Under a Glass Moon 19-3
16.   Learning to Live defeats Take the Time 17-5 


Division 1 Standings after Week 5 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. A Change of Seasons 5-0 (+91)
2. Metropolis 5-0 (+82)
3. Learning to Live 5-0 (+74) 
4. Breaking All Illusions 5-0 (+65)
5. Octavarium 5-0 (+63)
6. Home 4-0-1 (+28)
7. Voices 4-1 (+5)
8. Take the Time 4-1 (+1)
9. Fatal Tragedy 3-2 (+20)
10. Finally Free 3-2 (+6) 
11. Beyond this Life 3-2 (+5) 
11. The Spirit Carries On 3-2 (+5)
13. Surrounded 3-2 (+4)
14. Scarred 3-2 (-11)
15. The Count of Tuscany 2-2-1 (+1)
16. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 2-2-1 (-5)
17. In the Presence of Enemies 2-2-1 (-10)   
18. Under a Glass Moon 2-2-1 (-20)   
19. Pull Me Under 2-2-1 (-31)
20. The Mirror 2-3 (-4) 
21. Erotomania 2-3 (-17) 
22. Lines in the Sand 1-3-1 (-11) 
23. Trial of Tears 1-3-1 (-18)
24. Blind Faith 1-3-1 (-35)
25. The Glass Prison 1-4 (-21) 
26. At Witís End 1-4 (-42)
27. 6:00 1-4 (-43)
28. In the Name of God 0-4-1 (-24)
29. Bridges in the Sky 0-5 (-37)
30. Disappear 0-5 (-40)
31. Misunderstood 0-5 (-46)
32. Illumination Theory 0-5 (-55)


And just like that, the regular season is 25% completed.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2021, 07:34:21 AM »
Not many changes. Wow, we're already 1/4 through!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #78 on: February 06, 2021, 09:26:21 AM »
Albums Ė Week 3 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56182.0
1.   Black Clouds & Silver Linings defeats Dream Theater 13-11 
2.   When Dream and Day Unite defeats Systematic Chaos 13-11   
3.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats Falling into Infinity 23-1 
4.   Octavarium defeats The Astonishing 19-5 
5.   Awake defeats Distance over Time 18-6 
6.   Images & Words defeats A Dramatic Turn of Events 19-5 
7.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Train of Thought 21-3


The Album Standings after Week 3 of 13.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each album (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 8 albums at seasonís end advance to the Album Championship Tournament.


1. Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 3-0 (+71)
2. Images & Words 3-0 (+53) 
3. Awake 3-0 (+47)
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 3-0 (+47)
5. Octavarium 3-0 (+31)
6. Dream Theater 1-2 (-3)
7. Distance over Time 1-2 (-12) 
8. When Dream and Day Unite 1-2 (-13)
9. A Dramatic Turn of Events 1-2 (-16)
10. Black Clouds & Silver Lining 1-2 (-34)
11. Falling Into Infinity 1-2 (-37) 
12. Systematic Chaos 0-3 (-36)
13. The Astonishing 0-3 (-49)
13. Train of Thought 0-3 (-49) 


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #79 on: February 06, 2021, 10:35:11 AM »
Kinda weird o see Train of Thought at the very bottom.

Awake is holding out on par with Images and Words, so far!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #80 on: February 06, 2021, 11:02:13 AM »
Kinda weird o see Train of Thought at the very bottom.

Not when you consider that its three opponents have been SFAM, 8VM and SDOIT.
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« Reply #81 on: February 07, 2021, 02:24:59 PM »
Kinda weird o see Train of Thought at the very bottom.

Not when you consider that its three opponents have been SFAM, 8VM and SDOIT.

Train of Thought will get some wins eventually. My prediction is a 7-6 record, losing to the big four, 8VM, and ADToE while taking victories against all other albums. My finals standings prediction is this...

01: Images and Words (13-0)
02: Scenes From a Memory (12-1)
03: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (11-2)
04: Awake (10-3)
05: A Dramatic Turn of Events (9-4)
06: Octavarium (8-5)
07: Train of Thought (7-6)
08: Distance Over Time (6-7)
09: Falling Into Infinity (5-8)
10: The Astonishing (4-9)
11: Dream Theater (3-10)
12: Systematic Chaos (2-11)
13: Black Clouds & Silver Linings (1-12)
14: When Dream and Day Unite (0-13)
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #82 on: February 07, 2021, 03:02:45 PM »
The debut album already won a round however  :D
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #83 on: February 07, 2021, 03:35:52 PM »
My finals standings prediction is this...

01: Images and Words (13-0)
02: Scenes From a Memory (12-1)
03: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (11-2)
04: Awake (10-3)
05: A Dramatic Turn of Events (9-4)
06: Octavarium (8-5)
07: Train of Thought (7-6)
08: Distance Over Time (6-7)
09: Falling Into Infinity (5-8)
10: The Astonishing (4-9)
11: Dream Theater (3-10)
12: Systematic Chaos (2-11)
13: Black Clouds & Silver Linings (1-12)
14: When Dream and Day Unite (0-13)

Ummm...

Albums Ė Week 3 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56182.0
1.   Black Clouds & Silver Linings defeats Dream Theater 13-11 
2.   When Dream and Day Unite defeats Systematic Chaos 13-11 
3.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats Falling into Infinity 23-1 
4.   Octavarium defeats The Astonishing 19-5 
5.   Awake defeats Distance over Time 18-6 
6.   Images & Words defeats A Dramatic Turn of Events 19-5 
7.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Train of Thought 21-3

I'd be beyond shocked if TA ends up with four wins.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #84 on: February 08, 2021, 09:59:59 AM »
My finals standings prediction is this...

01: Images and Words (13-0)
02: Scenes From a Memory (12-1)
03: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (11-2)
04: Awake (10-3)
05: A Dramatic Turn of Events (9-4)
06: Octavarium (8-5)
07: Train of Thought (7-6)
08: Distance Over Time (6-7)
09: Falling Into Infinity (5-8)
10: The Astonishing (4-9)
11: Dream Theater (3-10)
12: Systematic Chaos (2-11)
13: Black Clouds & Silver Linings (1-12)
14: When Dream and Day Unite (0-13)

Ummm...

Albums Ė Week 3 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56182.0
1.   Black Clouds & Silver Linings defeats Dream Theater 13-11 
2.   When Dream and Day Unite defeats Systematic Chaos 13-11 
3.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats Falling into Infinity 23-1 
4.   Octavarium defeats The Astonishing 19-5 
5.   Awake defeats Distance over Time 18-6 
6.   Images & Words defeats A Dramatic Turn of Events 19-5 
7.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Train of Thought 21-3

I'd be beyond shocked if TA ends up with four wins.

Oops didnít even notice that. Iím giving The Astonishing four wins because I think enough people like it to get it past WDaDU, SC, BC&SL, and DT12.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #85 on: February 10, 2021, 07:22:28 AM »
Division 3 Week 6 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56192.0
1.   New Millennium defeats Three Days 14-11 
2.   Raise the Knife defeats Dystopian Overture 17-6 
3.   The Path That Divides defeats The Gift of Music 14-11
4.   Through Her Eyes defeats Ravenskill 14-11 
5.   Forsaken defeats A Life Left Behind 15-11
6.   Wither defeats Lord Nafaryus 18-8
7.   Sacrificed Sons defeats A Better Life 20-6 
8.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Paralyzed 19-7
9.   Honor Thy Father defeats Out of Reach 14-12
10.   The Bigger Picture defeats The Shattered Fortress 15-11 
11.   Beneath the Surface defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 20-6
12.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Constant Motion 18-8 
13.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats The Enemy Inside 16-9
14.   One Last Time defeats Vacant 18-8 
15.   Ytse Jam defeats Hollow Years 14-12
16.   The Killing Hand defeats The Silent Man 15-11


Division 3 Standings after Week 6 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Sacrificed Sons 6-0 (+69)
2. Raise the Knife 6-0 (+44)
3. The Killing Hand 6-0 (+41) 
4. Only a Matter of Time 6-0 (+35)
5. The Shattered Fortress 5-1 (+24)
T6. Lost Not Forgotten 5-1 (+23)   
T6. Ytse Jam 5-1 (+23)
8. The Path That Divides 4-1-1 (+9)
9. Honor Thy Father 4-1-1 (+6)
10. One Last Time 4-2 (+39)
11. Beneath the Surface 4-2 (+18) 
12. Wither 4-2 (+5)
13. The Enemy Inside 4-2 (-1)
14. Through Her Eyes 3-2-1 (+7)
15. A Nightmare to Remember 3-3 (+4)
16. New Millennium 3-3 (+1)
17. The Silent Man 2-2-2 (-1) 
18. Hollow Years 2-3-1 (+14)
19. Vacant 2-3-1 (-16) 
20. The Gift of Music 2-4 (-8)
21. Out of Reach 2-4 (-9)
22. The Bigger Picture 2-4 (-12)
23. Three Days 1-4-1 (-10)
24. Constant Motion 1-4-1 (-22) 
25. A Life Left Behind 1-5 (-5)
26. Forsaken 1-5 (-16)   
27. Dystopian Overture 1-5 (-33)
28. Paralyzed 1-5 (-34)
29. A Better Life 1-5 (-39) 
30. Lord Nafaryus 0-5-1 (-37) 
31. Ravenskill 0-6 (-42)
32. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 0-6 (-77)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #86 on: February 10, 2021, 07:34:44 AM »
I know the competition is not tough, but it's weird to see Sacrificed Sons leading undefeated.

To complete the four best of, we have a leftover and two Charlie songs, the revenge of the forgotten  ;D

And I'm gonna point out the shame of Ravenskill being last until it will no longer be!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #87 on: February 10, 2021, 09:56:22 AM »
IMO, Sacrificed Sons is pretty easily the best song in this division.  Of course, the song I think is second best is 1-4-1, so....

And, not surprisingly, 7 of the 8 TA songs in the division are in the bottom half (although the one in the top half is performing quite well).
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #88 on: February 11, 2021, 08:32:25 AM »
Division 2 Week 6 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56194.0
1.   As I Am defeats S2N 16-8
2.   Peruvian Skies defeats Pale Blue Dot 13-11
3.   Overture 1928 defeats Surrender to Reason 17-7
4.   Endless Sacrifice & Innocence Faded tied 12-12
5.   This is the Life defeats Outcry 14-10 
6.   Panic Attack defeats Untethered Angel 17-7
7.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Behind the Veil 17-7
8.   The Ministry of Lost Souls & A New Beginning tied 11-11
9.   Lie defeats Caught in a Web 13-11 
10.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream & These Walls tied 12-12 
11.   This Dying Soul defeats On the Backs of Angels 15-9 
12.   Strange Deja vu defeats Fall into the Light 20-4
13.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Barstool Warrior 13-11 
14.   The Root of All Evil & Another Day tied 12-12 
15.   Hellís Kitchen defeats The Great Debate 14-10 
16.   Wait for Sleep defeats Stream of Consciousness 13-11 


Division 2 Standings after Week 6 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Strange dťjŗ vu 6-0 (+87)
2. Space-Dye Vest 6-0 (+61) 
3. Wait for Sleep 6-0 (+46)
4. Overture 1928 5-0-1 (+40)
5. The Root of All Evil 5-0-1 (+39)
6. Panic Attack 5-1 (+37)
7. The Great Debate 5-1 (+36)
8. Hellís Kitchen 4-0-2 (+33)
9. Stream of Consciousness 4-1-1 (+39)
10. Another Day 3-1-2 (+34) 
11. Endless Sacrifice 3-1-2 (+3)
12. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 3-1-2 (+1)
13. This Dying Soul 3-2-1 (+5)
14. The Dance of Eternity 3-3 (+7)
14. Pale Blue Dot 3-3 (+7)   
16 Caught in a Web 3-3 (+2)
17. Lie 3-3 (-7) 
18. Barstool Warrior 1-2-3 (+1)
19. These Walls 2-3-1 (-5)
20. On the Backs of Angels 2-4 (-7)
21. As I Am 2-4 (-12)     
22. S2N 2-4 (-13)
23. Peruvian Skies 2-4 (-29)   
24. This is the Life 2-4 (-47)
25. A New Beginning 1-4-1 (-22) 
26. Innocence Faded 1-4-1 (-28)
27. Fall into the Light 1-5 (-41)
28. The Ministry of Lost Souls 0-5-1 (-46) 
29. Surrender to Reason 0-5-1 (-54)
30. Outcry 0-6 (-35) 
31. Untethered Angel 0-6 (-67) 
32. Behind the Veil 0-6 (-69)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #89 on: February 11, 2021, 08:58:54 AM »
The SDV rule continues.

At the bottom, only Mangini songs!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2021, 07:19:38 AM »
Division 1 Week 6 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56199.0
1.   The Glass Prison defeats Illumination Theory 13-12
2.   Blind Faith defeats At Witís End 14-11 
3.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Misunderstood 19-6
4.   Take the Time defeats Bridges in the Sky 17-8 
5.   Voices defeats Disappear 19-6
6.   The Mirror defeats In the Name of God 14-11
7.   The Count of Tuscany defeats 6:00 18-7
8.   Lines in the Sand defeats The Spirit Carries On 13-12 
9.   Learning to Live defeats Erotomania 21-4 
10.   Trial of Tears defeats Pull Me Under 16-9 
11.   Surrounded defeats Under a Glass Moon 13-12
12.   Beyond This Life defeats In the Presence of Enemies 14-11
13.   Metropolis defeats Finally Free 16-9
14.   Octavarium defeats Scarred 19-6 
15.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Fatal Tragedy 18-7
16.   A Change of Seasons defeats Home 19-6 


Division 1 Standings after Week 6 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. A Change of Seasons 6-0 (+104)
2. Learning to Live 6-0 (+91) 
3. Metropolis 6-0 (+89)
4. Breaking All Illusions 6-0 (+76)
5. Octavarium 6-0 (+76)
6. Voices 5-1 (+18)
7. Take the Time 5-1 (+10)
8. Home 4-1-1 (+15)
9. Beyond this Life 4-2 (+8) 
10. Surrounded 4-2 (+5)
11. The Count of Tuscany 3-2-1 (+12)
12. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 3-2-1 (+8)
13. Fatal Tragedy 3-3 (+9)
14. The Spirit Carries On 3-3 (+4)
15. Finally Free 3-3 (-1) 
15. The Mirror 3-3 (-1) 
17. Scarred 3-3 (-24)
18. Lines in the Sand 2-3-1 (-10)   
19. Trial of Tears 2-3-1 (-11)
20. In the Presence of Enemies 2-3-1 (-13)   
21. Under a Glass Moon 2-3-1 (-21)   
22. Blind Faith 2-3-1 (-32) 
23. Pull Me Under 2-3-1 (-38)
24. The Glass Prison 2-4 (-20) 
25. Erotomania 2-4 (-34) 
26. At Witís End 1-5 (-45)
27. 6:00 1-5 (-54)
28. In the Name of God 0-5-1 (-27)
29. Bridges in the Sky 0-6 (-46)
30. Disappear 0-6 (-53)
31. Illumination Theory 0-6 (-56)
32. Misunderstood 0-6 (-59)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2021, 07:38:52 AM »
Nothing beats the heavyweights! we'll see what happens when they'll face off each other....
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #92 on: February 13, 2021, 09:28:10 AM »
The Albums Ė Week 4 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56200.0
1.   Black Clouds & Silver Linings defeats When Dream and Day Unite 14-10
2.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats Systematic Chaos 24-0
3.   A Dramatic Turn of Events defeats The Astonishing 17-7 
4.   Train of Thought defeats Dream Theater 16-8
5.   Distance over Time defeats Falling into Infinity 16-8
6.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Octavarium 17-7
7.   Images and Words defeats Awake 15-9


The Album Standings after Week 4 of 13.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each album (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 8 albums at seasonís end advance to the Album Championship Tournament.


1. Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 4-0 (+95)
2. Images & Words 4-0 (+59) 
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 4-0 (+57)
4. Awake 3-1 (+41)
5. Octavarium 3-1 (+21)
6. Distance over Time 2-2 (-4) 
7. A Dramatic Turn of Events 2-2 (-6)
8. Black Clouds & Silver Lining 2-2 (-30)
9. Dream Theater 1-3 (-11)
10. When Dream and Day Unite 1-3 (-17)
11. Train of Thought 1-3 (-41) 
12. Falling Into Infinity 1-3 (-45) 
13. The Astonishing 0-4 (-59)
14. Systematic Chaos 0-4 (-60)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #93 on: February 13, 2021, 10:43:54 AM »
The big match of the Kevin Moore albums has the first casualty... and now only three albums remain undefeated!

The fact that SFAM completely trashed unopposed Systematic Chaos gave it also a huuuge lead on points difference....
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #94 on: February 17, 2021, 07:35:44 AM »
Division 3 Week 7 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56210.0
1.   Build Me Up, Break Me Down defeats Ravenskill 13-12
2.   The Gift of Music defeats Forsaken 14-11 
3.   Wither defeats Dystopian Overture 16-9 
4.   Only a Matter of Time defeats A Better Life 16-8
5.   Three Days defeats Vacant 16-9
6.   Ytse Jam defeats The Bigger Picture 17-8
7.   Constant Motion defeats Paralyzed 15-10
8.   Through Her Eyes defeats A Life Left Behind 15-10 
9.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Hollow Years 13-12
10.   The Silent Man defeats Out of Reach 16-9
11.   Beneath the Surface defeats Lord Nafaryus 16-9
12.   One Last Time defeats The Shattered Fortress 16-9 
13.   Raise the Knife defeats New Millennium 15-9
14.   The Killing Hand defeats The Path That Divides 16-8
15.   Sacrificed Sons defeats The Enemy Inside 17-8 
16.   Honor Thy Father defeats A Nightmare to Remember 13-12


Division 3 Standings after Week 7 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Sacrificed Sons 7-0 (+78)
2. Raise the Knife 7-0 (+50)
3. The Killing Hand 7-0 (+49) 
4. Only a Matter of Time 7-0 (+43)
5. Ytse Jam 6-1 (+32)
6. Lost Not Forgotten 6-1 (+24)   
7. Honor Thy Father 5-1-1 (+7)
8. One Last Time 5-2 (+46)
9. Beneath the Surface 5-2 (+25) 
10. The Shattered Fortress 5-2 (+17)
11. Wither 5-2 (+12)
12. Through Her Eyes 4-2-1 (+12)
13. The Path That Divides 4-2-1 (+1)
14. The Silent Man 3-2-2 (+6) 
15. The Enemy Inside 4-3 (-10)
16. A Nightmare to Remember 3-4 (+3)
17. The Gift of Music 3-4 (-5)
17. New Millennium 3-4 (-5)
19. Hollow Years 2-4-1 (+13)
20. Three Days 2-4-1 (-3)
21. Constant Motion 2-4-1 (-17) 
22. Vacant 2-4-1 (-23) 
23. The Bigger Picture 2-5 (-3)
24. Out of Reach 2-5 (-16)
25. A Life Left Behind 1-6 (-10)
26. Forsaken 1-6 (-19)   
27. Paralyzed 1-6 (-39)
28. Dystopian Overture 1-6 (-40)
29. A Better Life 1-6 (-47) 
30. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 1-6 (-76)
31. Lord Nafaryus 0-6-1 (-44) 
32. Ravenskill 0-7 (-43)



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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2021, 07:38:45 AM »
Ravenskill at the very bottom and the only song always defeated? wait 'til Lord Nafaryus hears about this  >:(

(No, wait, actually Nafaryus would be happy that the namesake song of the rebels is doing bad  :D)
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #96 on: February 17, 2021, 08:36:17 AM »
Keeping in mind that RTK and OAMOT were just promoted from the orcus of unranked songs, they're doing quite well.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #97 on: February 18, 2021, 07:39:31 AM »
Division 2 Week 7 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56213.0
1.   On the Backs of Angels defeats Outcry 16-10
2.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Fall into the Light 16-10 
3.   Pale Blue Dot defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 13-12 
4.   Caught in a Web defeats S2N 16-10
5.   Peruvian Skies defeats These Walls 15-11 
6.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Surrender to Reason 19-7
7.   Innocence Faded defeats Lie 14-11
8.   A New Beginning defeats This is the Life 15-10
9.   This Dying Soul defeats Untethered Angel 19-7
10.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Behind the Veil 18-8
11.   The Root of All Evil defeats Barstool Warrior 19-7 
12.   Panic Attack defeats As I Am 16-10 
13.   Strange Deja vu defeats The Great Debate 17-9
14.   Space-Dye Vest defeats The Dance of Eternity 17-9
15.   Overture 1928 defeats Another Day 14-12 
16.   Hellís Kitchen defeats Wait for Sleep 14-12 


Division 2 Standings after Week 7 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Strange dťjŗ vu 7-0 (+95)
2. Space-Dye Vest 7-0 (+69) 
3. The Root of All Evil 6-0-1 (+51)
4. Overture 1928 6-0-1 (+42)
5. Wait for Sleep 6-1 (+44)
6. Panic Attack 6-1 (+43)
7. Hellís Kitchen 5-0-2 (+35)
8. Stream of Consciousness 5-1-1 (+49)
9. The Great Debate 5-2 (+28)
10. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 4-1-2 (+13)
11. Endless Sacrifice 4-1-2 (+9)
12. This Dying Soul 4-2-1 (+17)
13. Another Day 3-2-2 (+32) 
14 Caught in a Web 4-3 (+8)
14. Pale Blue Dot 4-3 (+8)   
16. The Dance of Eternity 3-4 (-1)
16. On the Backs of Angels 3-4 (-1)
18. Lie 3-4 (-10) 
19. Peruvian Skies 3-4 (-25)   
20. Barstool Warrior 1-3-3 (-11)
21. These Walls 2-4-1 (-9)
22. A New Beginning 2-4-1 (-17) 
23. Innocence Faded 2-4-1 (-25)
24. As I Am 2-5 (-18)     
25. S2N 2-5 (-19)
26. This is the Life 2-5 (-52)
27. Fall into the Light 1-6 (-47)
28. The Ministry of Lost Souls 0-6-1 (-47) 
29. Surrender to Reason 0-6-1 (-66)
30. Outcry 0-7 (-41) 
31. Behind the Veil 0-7 (-79)
31. Untethered Angel 0-7 (-79) 



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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #98 on: February 18, 2021, 07:43:58 AM »
SDV alone at the top, Mangini songs at the bottom.

Wait for Sleep gives way and for now it's out of the top 4!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #99 on: February 19, 2021, 07:27:47 AM »
Division 1 Week 7https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56215.0
1.   A Change of Seasons defeats Misunderstood 22-4
2.   Octavarium defeats The Glass Prison 19-7
3.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats At Witís End 14-12
4.   Under a Glass Moon & Illumination Theory tied 13-13 
5.   Surrounded defeats Pull Me Under 16-10
6.   Blind Faith defeats Erotomania 17-9 
7.   Finally Free defeats Bridges in the Sky 15-11
8.   Trial of Tears defeats Disappear 17-9
9.   The Spirit Carries On defeats 6:00 15-11
10.   Home defeats Fatal Tragedy 15-11
11.   Scarred defeats Beyond This Life 16-10
12.   The Count of Tuscany defeats The Mirror 15-11
13.   Metropolis defeats In the Name of God 20-6
14.   Voices defeats Lines in the Sand 17-9
15.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Take the Time 18-8 
16.   Learning to Live defeats Breaking All Illusions 16-10


Division 1 Standings after Week 7 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. A Change of Seasons 7-0 (+122)
2. Metropolis 7-0 (+103)
3. Learning to Live 7-0 (+97) 
4. Octavarium 7-0 (+88)
5. Breaking All Illusions 6-1 (+70)
6. Voices 6-1 (+26)
7. Home 5-1-1 (+19)
8. Surrounded 5-2 (+11)
9. Take the Time 5-2 (0)
10. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 4-2-1 (+18)
11. The Count of Tuscany 4-2-1 (+16)
12. The Spirit Carries On 4-3 (+8)
13. Finally Free 4-3 (+3) 
14. Beyond this Life 4-3 (+2) 
15. Scarred 4-3 (-18)
16. Trial of Tears 3-3-1 (-3)
17. In the Presence of Enemies 3-3-1 (-11)   
18. Blind Faith 3-3-1 (-24) 
19. Fatal Tragedy 3-4 (+5)
20. The Mirror 3-4 (-5) 
21. Under a Glass Moon 2-3-2 (-21)   
22. Lines in the Sand 2-4-1 (-18)   
23. Pull Me Under 2-4-1 (-44)
24. The Glass Prison 2-5 (-32) 
25. Erotomania 2-5 (-42) 
26. At Witís End 1-6 (-47)
27. 6:00 1-6 (-58)
28. In the Name of God 0-6-1 (-41)
29. Illumination Theory 0-6-1 (-56)
30. Bridges in the Sky 0-7 (-50)
31. Disappear 0-7 (-61)
32. Misunderstood 0-7 (-77)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #100 on: February 19, 2021, 07:32:07 AM »
The "Learning to Live derby" leaves the usual four heavyweights alone at the top!

While Illumination Theory at the bottom snatches a draw which means that two Six Degrees songs are now the very last two (Bridges in the Sky notwithstanding), with a complete string of defeats so far....
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #101 on: February 20, 2021, 08:07:44 AM »
The Albums Ė Week 5 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56218.0
1.   Falling into Infinity defeats When Dream and Day Unite 20-9 
2.   Train of Thought defeats The Astonishing 18-11
3.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Dream Theater 26-3 
4.   Black Clouds & Silver Linings defeats Systematic Chaos 15-14 
5.   A Dramatic Turn of Events defeats Distance over Time 17-12
6.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats Awake 24-5 
7.   Images and Words defeats Octavarium 21-8   


The Album Standings after Week 5 of 13.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each album (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 8 albums at seasonís end advance to the Album Championship Tournament.


1. Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 5-0 (+114)
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 5-0 (+80)
3. Images & Words 5-0 (+72) 
4. Awake 3-2 (+22)
5. Octavarium 3-2 (+8)
6. A Dramatic Turn of Events 3-2 (-1)
7. Black Clouds & Silver Lining 3-2 (-29)
8. Distance over Time 2-3 (-9) 
9. Train of Thought 2-3 (-34) 
9. Falling Into Infinity 2-3 (-34) 
11. When Dream and Day Unite 1-4 (-28)
12. Dream Theater 1-4 (-34)
13. Systematic Chaos 0-5 (-61)
14. The Astonishing 0-5 (-66)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #102 on: February 20, 2021, 08:32:12 AM »
The heavyweight matches give their results on the ranking: now we have three albums on the run, and everyone else detached of 2 victories!

The bottom adjustes with Systematic Chaos and The Astonishing as the only album without a victory....
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #103 on: February 20, 2021, 12:20:26 PM »
Top 4:  no surprise.

Bottom 2:  no surprise.

BC&SL performing better than expected.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #104 on: February 21, 2021, 11:00:26 AM »
Letís make no mistake about it, and I say this as a fan of the album, Black Clouds & Silver Linings has had an easy beginning of its schedule, beating When Dream and Day Unite, Systematic Chaos, and the self titled. It has one more realistically winnable matchup against The Astonishing and then itís all losses from there.
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