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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2021, 07:02:44 AM »
You posted again the score of Division 2  :D
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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2021, 07:12:00 AM »
Oops! Should be good now.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2021, 07:16:36 AM »
And good it is!

Only two rounds, and the "usual suspects" are already all there at the top of Division 1.
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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2021, 06:47:35 AM »
Decided that we also have time to run a league for the album's. So those polls will open. On Thursday. Will last 13 weeks which will allow for each album for face off against each other. Top 8 at season's end will make the playoffs.
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« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2021, 06:49:36 AM »
Decided that we also have time to run a league for the album's. So those pills will open. On Thursday. Will last 13 weeks which will allow for each album for face off against each other. Top 8 at season's end will make the playoffs.

Yayyy more fun and tough decisions to take!  :metal
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2021, 09:01:37 AM »
Division 3 Week 3 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56123.0
1.   Only a Matter of Time defeats A Life Left Behind 14-11
2.   The Path That Divides defeats Paralyzed 15-11
3.   The Gift of Music defeats Ravenskill 16-9
4.   The Silent Man & Constant Motion tied 13-13 
5.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Forsaken 15-10 
6.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 20-6
7.   The Enemy Inside defeats The Bigger Picture 15-11
8.   Dystopian Overture defeats New Millennium 14-12
9.   One Last Time defeats A Better Life 19-7
10.   Lord Nafaryus & Vacant tied 13-13
11.   Wither defeats Out of Reach 14-12
12.   Hollow Years defeats Honor Thy Father 16-9
13.   Ytse Jam defeats Through Her Eyes 16-10
14.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Three Days 20-6 
15.   The Killing Hand defeats Beneath the Surface 15-11 
16.   Raise the Knife defeats A Nightmare to Remember 13-11


Division 3 Standings after Week 3 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Sacrificed Sons 3-0 (+42)
2. One Last Time 3-0 (+35)
3. Raise the Knife 3-0 (+26)
3. Ytse Jam 3-0 (+26)
5. The Shattered Fortress 3-0 (+25)
6. The Killing Hand 3-0 (+17)
7. Only a Matter of Time 3-0 (+14)
8. Hollow Years 2-0-1 (+18)
9. The Path That Divides 2-0-1 (+8)
10. The Gift of Music 2-1 (+7)
11. Through Her Eyes 2-1 (+5)
12. Lost Not Forgotten 2-1 (+2)   
12. Wither 2-1 (+2)
14. The Enemy Inside 2-1 (+1)
14. Out of Reach 2-1 (+1)
16. The Silent Man 1-1-1 (0)
17. Three Days 1-1-1 (-1)
18. Honor Thy Father 1-1-1 (-3)
19. New Millennium 1-2 (+2)
20. Beneath the Surface 1-2 (-2)
21. A Nightmare to Remember 1-2 (-4)
22. Dystopian Overture 1-2 (-12)
23. Constant Motion 0-2-1 (-12) 
24. Vacant 0-2-1 (-15) 
25. Lord Nafaryus 0-2-1 (-19) 
26. A Life Left Behind 0-3 (-13)
27. Forsaken 0-3 (-14) 
28. A Better Life 0-3 (-18) 
29. Paralyzed 0-3 (-20)
30. Ravenskill 0-3 (-22)
31. The Bigger Picture 0-3 (-23)
32. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 0-3 (-53)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2021, 09:14:23 AM »
Ravenskill, The Bigger Picture and A Better Life still at the bottom with three defeats? come on!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2021, 09:19:00 AM »
Ravenskill, The Bigger Picture and A Better Life still at the bottom with three defeats? come on!

Two of TBP's losses make sense, but to lose to New Millennium is incomprehensible.  Two of Ravenskill's losses came at the hand of other TA tracks, but its third loss is a no brainer, as are all of ABL's losses.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2021, 07:38:37 AM »
Division 2 Week 3 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56130.0
1.   The Root of All Evil defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 18-8
2.   On the Backs of Angels defeats Behind the Veil 19-6 
3.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats As I Am 18-7 
4.   Caught in a Web defeats A New Beginning 16-9 
5.   Fall into the Light defeats This Dying Soul 14-11
6.   Wait For Sleep defeats Untethered Angel 19-6 
7.   Hellís Kitchen & Barstool Warrior tied 13-13 
8.   Space-Dye Vest defeats This is the Life 21-5 
9.   Innocence Faded defeats Outcry 15-11
10.   Endless Sacrifice & Surrender to Reason tied 13-13
11.   Overture 1928 defeats Peruvian Skies 18-8 
12.   These Walls defeat Lie 14-12 
13.   S2N defeats Pale Blue Dot 13-12
14.   The Great Debate defeats Panic Attack 16-10
15.   Stream of Consciousness defeats The Dance of Eternity 14-12
16.   Strange Deja vu defeats Another Day 15-11


Division 2 Standings after Week 3 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Space-Dye Vest 3-0 (+34)
1. Strange dťjŗ vu 3-0 (+34)
3. Wait For Sleep 3-0 (+29)
4. Stream of Consciousness 3-0 (+26)
5. Overture 1928 3-0 (+21)
6. The Root of All Evil 3-0 (+20)
7. The Great Debate 3-0 (+16)
8. Hellís Kitchen 2-0-1 (+22)
9. Another Day 2-1 (+25) 
10. Panic Attack 2-1 (+15)
11. On the Backs of Angels 2-1 (+14)
12 Caught in a Web 2-1 (+7)
13. These Walls 2-1 (-2)
14. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 2-1 (-3)
15. Barstool Warrior 1-1-1 (+3)
16. Endless Sacrifice 1-1-1 (-4)
17. Pale Blue Dot 1-2 (0)   
18. The Dance of Eternity 1-2 (-2)
18. Lie 1-2 (-2)
20. This Dying Soul 1-2 (-4)
21. Fall into the Light 1-2 (-5)
22. As I Am  1-2 (-9)   
22. S2N 1-2 (-9)
24. Innocence Faded 1-2 (-16)   
25. Peruvian Skies 1-2 (-20)   
26. Surrender to Reason 0-2-1 (-21)
27. Outcry 0-3 (-16) 
28. A New Beginning 0-3 (-19) 
29. The Ministry of Lost Souls 0-3 (-29) 
30. Untethered Angel 0-3 (-32) 
31. This is the Life 0-3 (-34)
32. Behind the Veil 0-3 (-45)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2021, 07:45:41 AM »
Double SDV attack for the leadership!  :metal
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2021, 07:09:28 AM »
Week 3 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56133.0
1.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Glass Prison 13-11
2.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Misunderstood 13-11
3.   Home defeats Illumination Theory 17-7
4.   Beyond this Life defeats Trial of Tears 13-11
5.   Metropolis defeats Pull Me Under 21-3
6.   Erotomania defeats The Spirit Carries On 14-10 
7.   Lines in the Sand defeats 6:00 16-8 
8.   Fatal Tragedy defeats In the Name of God 14-10
9.   The Mirror defeats Disappear 17-6 
10.   Voices defeats At Witís End 19-5
11.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Bridges in the Sky 13-11
12.   Take the Time defeats Blind Faith 14-10
13.   Breaking All Illusions defeats The Count of Tuscany 16-8 
14.   Learning to Live defeats Finally Free 17-7
15.   Octavarium defeats Surrounded 18-6
16.   A Change of Seasons defeats Scarred 22-2



Division 1 Standings after Week 3 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. A Change of Seasons 3-0 (+58)
2. Metropolis 3-0 (+52)
3. Learning to Live 3-0 (+46) 
4. Octavarium 3-0 (+40)
5. Breaking All Illusions 3-0 (+38)
6. Home 3-0 (+17)
7. Take the Time 3-0 (+10)
8. Fatal Tragedy 2-1 (+15)
9. Finally Free 2-1 (+7) 
10. In the Presence of Enemies 2-1 (+5)   
11. Voices 2-1 (+2)
12. Erotomania 2-1 (-4) 
12. Under a Glass Moon 2-1 (-4)   
14. Beyond this Life 2-1 (-6) 
15. Scarred 2-1 (-12)
16. Lines in the Sand 1-1-1 (+6) 
17. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 1-1-1 (0)
17. Trial of Tears 1-1-1 (0)
19. The Spirit Carries On 1-2 (-2)
20. The Count of Tuscany 1-2 (-6)
21. Surrounded 1-2 (-8)
22. The Mirror 1-2 (-9) 
23. At Witís End 1-2 (-25)
24. Pull Me Under 1-2 (-32)
25. In the Name of God 0-2-1 (-9)
26. Disappear 0-3 (-21)
27. Bridges in the Sky 0-3 (-22)
27. The Glass Prison 0-3 (-22) 
29. Blind Faith 0-3 (-24)
29. Misunderstood 0-3 (-24)
31. 6:00 0-3 (-30)
32. Illumination Theory 0-3 (-36)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2021, 07:12:45 AM »
I guess nobody can be surprised at the top 4.

The "problem" with the top division is that it's so ridiculously packed with awesome songs that every match seems a difficult choice, and every consecutive defeat an anomaly  :D
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2021, 06:39:56 AM »
Albums Ė Week 1

1.   Dream Theater defeats When Dream and Day Unite 17-12
2.   Awake defeats The Astonishing 23-6 
3.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats Black Clouds & Silver Linings 27-2   
4.   Images and Words defeats Falling Into Infinity 25-4
5.   Distance over Time defeats Systematic Chaos 22-6
6.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats A Dramatic Turn of Events 21-8 
7.   Octavarium defeats Train of Thought 18-11


The Album Standings after Week 1 of 13.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each album (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 8 albums at seasonís end advance to the Album Championship Tournament.


1. Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 1-0 (+25)
2. Images & Words 1-0 (+21) 
3. Awake 1-0 (+17)
4. Distance over Time 1-0 (+16)
5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 1-0 (+13)
6. Octavarium 1-0 (+7)
7. Dream Theater 1-0 (+5)
8. When Dream and Day Unite 0-1 (-5)
9. Train of Thought 0-1 (-7) 
10. A Dramatic Turn of Events 0-1 (-13)
11. Systematic Chaos 0-1 (-16)
12. The Astonishing 0-1 (-17)
13. Falling Into Infinity 0-1 (-21) 
14. Black Clouds & Silver Lining 0-1 (-25)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2021, 08:52:08 AM »
One round and we already have the likely ending top 3.... save surprises from Six Degrees  :D
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« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2021, 01:40:01 PM »
Iím assuming the top 8 albums will be:

1: Images and Words
2: Scenes From a Memory
3: Awake
4: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
5: A Dramatic Turn of Events
6: Distance Over Time
7: Train of Thought
8: Falling Into Infinity or Octavarium depending on the matchups they draw
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2021, 07:02:57 AM »
With just 14 choices, I believe every album will face all the others eventually.
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« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2021, 09:49:01 AM »
Division 3 Week 4 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56149.0
1.   Vacant defeats A Nightmare to Remember 12-10
2.   A Better Life defeats Dystopian Overture 12-8
3.   Wither defeats The Bigger Picture 13-9   
4.   Honor Thy Father defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 12-9
5.   Constant Motion defeats Ravenskill 13-9
6.   The Path That Divides defeats Forsaken 12-10 
7.   Paralyzed defeats A Life Left Behind 11-10
8.   Beneath the Surface defeats Hollow Years 11-10
9.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Out of Reach 12-10
10.   The Enemy Inside defeats Lord Nafaryus 13-9
11.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats The Gift of Music 14-7
12.   Through Her Eyes & The Silent Man tied 11-11
13.   Sacrificed Sons defeats New Millennium 15-7 
14.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Three Days 12-9 
15.   Raise the Knife defeats One Last Time 11-10 
16.   The Killing Hand defeats Ytse Jam 15-6



Division 3 Standings after Week 4 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Sacrificed Sons 4-0 (+50)
2. Raise the Knife 4-0 (+27)
2. The Shattered Fortress 4-0 (+27)
4. The Killing Hand 4-0 (+26)

5. Only a Matter of Time 4-0 (+17)
6. The Path That Divides 3-0-1 (+10)
7. One Last Time 3-1 (+34)
8. Ytse Jam 3-1 (+17)
9. Lost Not Forgotten 3-1 (+9)   
10. Wither 3-1 (+6)
11. The Enemy Inside 3-1 (+5)
12. Hollow Years 2-1-1 (+17)
13. Through Her Eyes 2-1-1 (+5)
14. Honor Thy Father 2-1-1 (0)
15. The Gift of Music 2-2 (0)
15. The Silent Man 1-1-2 (0)
17. Beneath the Surface 2-2 (-1)
17. Out of Reach 2-2 (-1) 
19. Three Days 1-2-1 (-4)
20. Constant Motion 1-2-1 (-8) 
21. Vacant 1-2-1 (-13) 
22. New Millennium 1-3 (-6)
23. A Nightmare to Remember 1-3 (-6)
24. A Better Life 1-3 (-14) 
25. Dystopian Overture 1-3 (-16)
26. Paralyzed 1-3 (-19)
27. Lord Nafaryus 0-3-1 (-23) 
28. A Life Left Behind 0-4 (-14)
29. Forsaken 0-4 (-16) 
30. Ravenskill 0-4 (-26)
31. The Bigger Picture 0-4 (-27)
32. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 0-4 (-56)




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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2021, 10:09:29 AM »
1. Sacrificed Sons 4-0 (+50)

:metal

29. Forsaken 0-4 (-16) 
30. Ravenskill 0-4 (-26)
31. The Bigger Picture 0-4 (-27)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2021, 11:52:53 AM »
Yeah, I agree with the  :facepalm:.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2021, 11:58:58 AM »
What are the red and green fonts signifying?  It's way too early for any song to have clinched a top 16 spot or be eliminated, isn't it?  What is the "Outsiders Club"?
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2021, 12:04:15 PM »
What are the red and green fonts signifying?  It's way too early for any song to have clinched a top 16 spot or be eliminated, isn't it?  What is the "Outsiders Club"?

The fonts are for trending.... if the season ended today sort of thing. Even then, the top 4 songs won't necessarily be promoted unless they advance to the final 4 of the tournament.

Outsider's Club is basically every DT song not in the 3 Divisions. If this done regularly, those songs can vie in a league, tournament, survivor etc to promote 4 up to Division 3.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2021, 07:42:18 AM »
Division 2 Week 4 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56151.0
1.   Wait For Sleep defeats As I Am 17-10 
2.   Panic Attack defeats The Dance of Eternity 16-11 
3.   Endless Sacrifice defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 16-11 
4.   Pale Blue Dot defeats These Walls 14-13
5.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats S2N 15-11
6.   Lie defeats Peruvian Skies 14-13
7.   A New Beginning defeats Surrender to Reason 14-9
8.   The Root of All Evil defeats Innocence Faded 18-9
9.   Strange Deja vu defeats This is the Life 23-4
10.   Barstool Warrior & This Dying Soul tied 13-13 
11.   The Great Debate defeats Behind the Veil 19-7 
12.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Untethered Angel 21-6
13.   Another Day defeats Outcry 18-9
14.   Overture 1928 defeats Caught in a Web 18-9 
15.   Hellís Kitchen defeats On the Backs of Angels 17-10
16.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Fall into the Light 20-7 


Division 2 Standings after Week 4 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Strange dťjŗ vu 4-0 (+53)
2. Space-Dye Vest 4-0 (+47) 
3. Stream of Consciousness 4-0 (+41)
4. Wait For Sleep 4-0 (+36)

5. Overture 1928 4-0 (+30)
6. The Root of All Evil 4-0 (+29)
7. The Great Debate 4-0 (+28)
8. Hellís Kitchen 3-0-1 (+29)
9. Another Day 3-1 (+34) 
10. Panic Attack 3-1 (+20)
11. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 3-1 (+1)
12. Endless Sacrifice 2-1-1 (+1)
13. On the Backs of Angels 2-2 (+7)
14. Barstool Warrior 1-1-2 (+3)
15. Pale Blue Dot 2-2 (+1)   
16. Lie 2-2 (-1)
17 Caught in a Web 2-2 (-2)
18. These Walls 2-2 (-3)
19. This Dying Soul 1-2-1 (-4)
20. The Dance of Eternity 1-3 (-7)
21. S2N 1-3 (-13)
22. A New Beginning 1-3 (-14) 
23. As I Am 1-3 (-16)     
24. Fall into the Light 1-3 (-18)
25. Peruvian Skies 1-3 (-21)   
26. Innocence Faded 1-3 (-25)   
27. Surrender to Reason 0-3-1 (-26)
28. Outcry 0-4 (-25) 
29. The Ministry of Lost Souls 0-4 (-34) 
30. Untethered Angel 0-4 (-45) 
31. This is the Life 0-4 (-53)
32. Behind the Veil 0-4 (-57)



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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2021, 07:47:32 AM »
This is the SDV division  ;D
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2021, 07:06:01 AM »
Division 1 Week 4 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56154.0
1.   Pull Me Under & Blind Faith tied 12-12
2.   Surrounded defeats Misunderstood 17-6
3.   The Mirror defeats Erotomania 15-9
4.   Beyond This Life defeats Bridges in the Sky 17-7
5.   Scarred defeats The Glass Prison 14-10
6.   A Change of Seasons defeats Illumination Theory 21-3 
7.   In the Presence of Enemies & Under a Glass Moon tied 11-11
8.   Metropolis defeats At Witís End 19-5
9.   Learning to Live defeats Disappear 20-4
10.   Breaking All Illusions defeats 6:00 20-4 
11.   The Spirit Carries On defeats In the Name of God 14-10
12.   Take the Time defeats Trial of Tears 13-10 
13.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Lines in the Sand 15-9 
14.   Voices defeats Finally Free 13-11
15.   Home & The Count of Tuscany tied 12-12
16.   Octavarium defeats Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 16-8


Division 1 Standings after Week 4 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. A Change of Seasons 4-0 (+76)
2. Metropolis 4-0 (+66)
3. Learning to Live 4-0 (+62) 
4. Breaking All Illusions 4-0 (+54)
5. Octavarium 4-0 (+48)
6. Take the Time 4-0 (+13)
7. Home 3-0-1 (+17)
8. Fatal Tragedy 3-1 (+21)
9. Beyond this Life 3-1 (+6) 
10. Voices 3-1 (+4)
11. Scarred 3-1 (-8)
12. In the Presence of Enemies 2-1-1 (+5)   
13. Under a Glass Moon 2-1-1 (-4)   
14. Finally Free 2-2 (+5) 
15. Surrounded 2-2 (+3)
16. The Spirit Carries On 2-2 (+2)
17. The Mirror 2-2 (-3) 
18. Erotomania 2-2 (-10) 
19. Lines in the Sand 1-2-1 (0) 
20. Trial of Tears 1-2-1 (-3)
21. The Count of Tuscany 1-2-1 (-6)
22. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 1-2-1 (-8)
23. Pull Me Under 1-2-1 (-32)
24. At Witís End 1-3 (-39)
25. In the Name of God 0-3-1 (-13)
26. Blind Faith 0-3-1 (-24)
27. The Glass Prison 0-4 (-26) 
28. Bridges in the Sky 0-4 (-32)
29. Misunderstood 0-4 (-35)
30. Disappear 0-4 (-37)
31. 6:00 0-4 (-46)
32. Illumination Theory 0-4 (-54)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2021, 09:10:09 AM »
I know this is the heavyweight championship, but it's kinda weird to see Illumination Theory at the very bottom.

No surprises for the top 5 so far. Take the Time is still going undefeated but it's evident that its victories are always contested and never a landslide like for the other four giants.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2021, 09:26:52 AM »
ITNOG is getting jobbed!

And folks obviously like TSCO WAY more than I do.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #61 on: January 30, 2021, 08:21:47 AM »
Albums Ė Week 2 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56157.0
1.   Images and Words defeats The Astonishing 22-4 
2.   Awake defeats Systematic Chaos 22-4 
3.   Octavarium defeats When Dream and Day Unite 18-8 
4.   A Dramatic Turn of Events defeats Black Clouds & Silver Linings 18-7 
5.   Falling into Infinity defeats Dream Theater 16-10 
6.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats Train of Thought 25-1
7.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Distance over Time 21-5 


The Album Standings after Week 2 of 13.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each album (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 8 albums at seasonís end advance to the Album Championship Tournament.


1. Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 2-0 (+49)
2. Images & Words 2-0 (+39) 
3. Awake 2-0 (+35)
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 2-0 (+29)
5. Octavarium 2-0 (+17)
6. Distance over Time 1-1 (0)
7. Dream Theater 1-1 (-1)
8. A Dramatic Turn of Events 1-1 (-2)
9. Falling Into Infinity 1-1 (-15) 
10. When Dream and Day Unite 0-2 (-15)
11. Train of Thought 0-2 (-31) 
12. Systematic Chaos 0-2 (-34)
13. The Astonishing 0-2 (-35)
14. Black Clouds & Silver Lining 0-2 (-36)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2021, 08:48:09 AM »
The top 3 and the last one remain the same. Six Degrees takes the 4th spot and I wouldn't be surprised if it would remain there...
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #63 on: January 31, 2021, 12:51:51 PM »
I'm honestly amazed and impressed that Images and Words managed to concede as many as 4 votes to The Astonishing.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #64 on: January 31, 2021, 01:32:40 PM »
I'm honestly amazed and impressed that Images and Words managed to concede as many as 4 votes to The Astonishing.

Right??  My guess would be a couple of those votes were motivated by:  "I know I&W will win, so I voted for TA just to avoid a shutout" (or something like that).
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2021, 10:57:44 PM »
I'm honestly amazed and impressed that Images and Words managed to concede as many as 4 votes to The Astonishing.

I was one of those four voters. I simply enjoy The Astonishing as an album much more than I enjoy Images and Words. If I considered Take the Time and Under A Glass Moon to be as good as the rest of the songs on Images and Words, I'd have voted for that album instead.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2021, 09:01:57 AM »
I just dont enjoy I&W as much as most of the rest. I love all their music, but I choose it the least. It really is different than all the rest and I like how they became a bit edgier after. I listen to TA much more often, but it's not my favorite either.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2021, 11:10:39 AM »
Division 3 Week 5 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56167.0
1.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Three Days 13-10
2.   The Bigger Picture defeats A Better Life 17-6
3.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Dystopian Overture 14-8
4.   Vacant defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 15-8
5.   Honor Thy Father defeats Constant Motion 13-9
6.   Ytse Jam defeats Forsaken 13-9 
7.   A Life Left Behind defeats Ravenskill 17-4
8.   The Silent Man defeats Paralyzed 13-10
9.   Beneath the Surface defeats The Gift of Music 14-9
10.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Through Her Eyes 12-11 
11.   Raise the Knife defeats Out of Reach 14-8
12.   New Millennium defeats Lord Nafaryus 13-9
13.   The Enemy Inside defeats Hollow Years 12-11
14.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats The Path That Divides 13-9
15.   The Killing Hand defeats Wither 17-6
16.   Sacrificed Sons defeats One Last Time 14-9


Division 3 Standings after Week 5 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

Songs in green are trending towards promotion. Songs in red are trending towards regulation.
* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Sacrificed Sons 5-0 (+55)
2. The Killing Hand 5-0 (+37) 
3. Raise the Knife 5-0 (+33)
4. The Shattered Fortress 5-0 (+28)
5. Only a Matter of Time 5-0 (+23)
6. Ytse Jam 4-1 (+21)
7. Lost Not Forgotten 4-1 (+13)   
8. The Enemy Inside 4-1 (+6)
9. The Path That Divides 3-1-1 (+6)
10. Honor Thy Father 3-1-1 (+4)
11. One Last Time 3-2 (+29)
12. Beneath the Surface 3-2 (+4) 
13. The Silent Man 2-1-2 (+3) 
14. Wither 3-2 (-5)
15. Hollow Years 2-2-1 (+16)
16. Through Her Eyes 2-2-1 (+4)
17. Vacant 2-2-1 (-6) 
18. New Millennium 2-3 (-2)
19. A Nightmare to Remember 2-3 (-3)
20. The Gift of Music 2-3 (-5)
21. Out of Reach 2-3 (-7) 
22. Three Days 1-3-1 (-7)
23. Constant Motion 1-3-1 (-12) 
24. A Life Left Behind 1-4 (-1)
25. The Bigger Picture 1-4 (-16)
26. Dystopian Overture 1-4 (-22)
26. Paralyzed 1-4 (-22)
28. A Better Life 1-4 (-25) 
29. Lord Nafaryus 0-4-1 (-27) 
30. Forsaken 0-5 (-20) 
31. Ravenskill 0-5 (-39)
32. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 0-5 (-63)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2021, 12:00:15 PM »
It bugs me, and not in a young Nefaryus way, to see Forsaken and Ravenskill still tied to the bottom!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2021, 01:57:57 PM »
It bugs me, and not in a young Nefaryus way, to see Forsaken and Ravenskill still tied to the bottom!

The one that's out of whack for me is Constant Motion.  1-3-1?  I know most folks like ITPOE, but Constant Motion is, for me, the best song on SC by miles.
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