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Dream Theater the League - 2021
« on: November 02, 2020, 12:16:43 PM »
Past seasons of the league.
2019 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53461.0
2016 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=44826
2015 -  https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42658.0
2014 -  https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39921.0
2013 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=34282.0

Dream Theater the League – 2021

Hello friends! After having off for 2020 (what a yeah, huh?) the DT League will return to a Polls and Survivors forum near you very soon.  We will be going back to the Division format to ensure a somewhat level playing field. Division 1 shall consist of the Top 32 songs from the 2019 season. Division 2 will be songs 33-64. Division 3 shall consist of songs 65-93, and the top 3 songs of the “Play in Tournament” that will be completed in advance of the 2021 season.

Once the 2021 season begins, we will have a 20 week schedule followed by album tournaments, and 16 song tournaments for each Division. Also, the Top 4 Songs from Divisions 2 & 3 will be promoted to the next highest division while the bottom 4 songs from each division will be regulated to the next lowest division or removed from the league back to the outsiders. The winner of the Division 1 tournament will be crowned the 2021 League Champion!

The divisions are comprised of the following songs (2019 regular season records). 

Division 1
1. Metropolis (35-0)
2. A Change of Seasons (35-0)
3. Learning to Live (35-0)
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (34-1)
5. Breaking All Illusions (34-1)
6. Scarred (34-1)
7. Octavarium (33-2)
8. Finally Free (33-2)   
9. Beyond This Life (33-2)
10. Home (32-2-1)
11. Blind Faith (32-3)
12. Voices (32-3)
13. Trial of Tears (32-3)
14. In the Presence of Enemies (32-3)
15. Bridges in the Sky (32-3)
16. Take the Time (31-3-1)
17. Surrounded (31-3-1)
18. Fatal Tragedy (30-3-2) 
19. The Count of Tuscany (31-4)
20. The Glass Prison (31-4)
21. Pull Me Under (30-5)
22. 6:00 (30-5)
23. In the Name of God (29-4-2)
24. At Wit’s End (30-5)
25. Illumination Theory (30-5)
26. The Mirror (29-5-1)
27. Under a Glass Moon (29-6)
28. Lines in the Sand (29-6)
29. Disappear (29-6)
30. Erotomania (29-6)
31. The Spirit Carries On (29-6)
32. Misunderstood (29-6)


Division 2
1.   Space-Dye Vest (29-6)
2.   Barstool Warrior (28-6-1)
3.   Hell’s Kitchen (27-6-2)
4.   Pale Blue Dot (28-7)
5.   The Great Debate (28-7)
6.   S2N (27-7-1)
7.   Strange Déjà vu (27-8)
8.   The Dance of Eternity (27-8)
9.   Another Day (27-8)
10.   Panic Attack (26-8-1)
11.   Wait For Sleep (26-9)
12.   Peruvian Skies (26-9)
13.   A New Beginning (25-8-2)
14.   Stream of Consciousness (25-9-1)
15.   These Walls (25-10)
16.   Endless Sacrifice (24-10-1)
17.   Overture 1928 (24-10-1)
18.   Lifting Shadows Off a Dream (24-11)
19.   Untethered Angel (23-11-1)
20.   Fall Into the Light (22-12-1)
21.   Lie (22-12-1)
22.   Outcry (22-13)
23.   As I Am (22-13)
24.   Innocence Faded (22-13)
25.   The Root of All Evil (21-13-1)
26.   Caught in a Web (21-13-1)
27.   This Dying Soul (21-13-1)
28.   The Ministry of Lost Souls (21-14)
29.   On the Backs of Angels (20-14-1)
30.   Behind the Veil (20-14-1)
31.   This is the Life (20-14-1)
32.   Surrender to Reason (20-15)

Division 3
1.   The Bigger Picture (19-14-2)
2.   Lost Not Forgotten (20-15)
3.   New Millennium (19-14-2)
4.   The Shattered Fortress (20-15)
5.   The Enemy Inside (18-15-2)
6.   Sacrificed Sons (19-16)
7.   The Silent Man (18-15-2)
8.   Paralyzed (18-16-1)
9.   A Better Life (18-17)
10.   A Nightmare to Remember (18-17)
11.   Ravenskill (18-17)
12.   Through Her Eyes (18-17)
13.   Wither (18-17)
14.   One Last Time (17-17-1)
15.   Beneath the Surface (17-18)
16.   Honor Thy Father (16-17-2)
17.   The Killing Hand (16-18-1)
18.   Three Days (15-18-2)
19.   A Life Left Behind (15-19-1)
20.   The Path That Divides (14-19-2)
21.   Ytse Jam (14-21)
22.   Constant Motion (13-21-1)
23.   Out of Reach (13-21-1)
24.   Vacant (13-21-1)
25.   The Gift of Music (13-22)
26.   Lord Nafaryus (13-22)
27.   Build Me Up, Break Me Down (12-22-1)
28.   Dystopian Overture (12-22-1)
29.   Forsaken (12-22-1)


Division 3 Play in Tournament (1st 2nd and 3rd Place Songs promoted to Division 3 for 2021 Season)
1. Hollow Years
2. Far From Heaven
3. The Walking Shadow
4. Moment of Betrayal
5. The Dark Eternal Night
6. Our New World
7. Raise the Knife
8. The Looking Glass
9. Afterlife
10. Anna Lee 
11. Only a Matter of Time
12. Room 137
13. Viper King
14. A Fortune in Lies
15. To Live Forever
16. A Savior in the Square
17. Heaven’s Cove
18. Along for the Ride
19. Take Away My Pain
20. Eve
21. When Your Time Has Come
22. A Tempting Offer
23. Astonishing
24. Never Enough
25. The Answer Lies Within
26. Speak to Me
27. I Walk Beside You
28. The Best of Times
29. Hymn of a Thousand Voices
30. Enigma Machine
31. Repentance
32. My Last Farewell



The play in Tournament will begin soon. The 2021 season will begin in late December.

The progress of the league will be tracked in this thread.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2020, 12:41:00 PM »
This is fantastic news!  :metal

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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2020, 01:42:51 PM »
Yeeees! Hell yes. Let's go.

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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2020, 02:45:46 PM »
Awesome!  Looking forward to it.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2020, 02:53:20 PM »
I’m looking forward to helping Octavarium return to its rightful place on the throne.
People figured out that the white thing that comes out of cows' titties could be drunk, and the relation between sweet desires and women's bellies growing up for 9 months. It can't be THAT hard to figure out how a trumpet works.”

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2020, 04:37:25 PM »
Cool, it's a tournament for a band that I can finally participate in!

Well, I would've been able to do the Haken one that happened this year, but it was already close to the end by the time I'd listened to all the albums they had...


I’m looking forward to helping Octavarium return to its rightful place on the throne.

Octavarium absolutely deserves the throne...


...but A Change of Seasons exists.

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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2020, 05:03:06 PM »
I’m looking forward to helping Octavarium return to its rightful place on the throne.

Octavarium absolutely deserves the throne...


...but A Change of Seasons exists.

A Change of Seasons vs Octavarium is the classic championship matchup that we were denied last year. May the heated rivalry take place where it belongs: the tournament finals.
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2020, 09:30:19 PM »
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Excellent news, DoC!
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2020, 01:54:11 PM »
Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Just wanted to update that the  Play in tournament will begin on November 23rd!

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2020, 07:48:09 AM »
I have never participated in these leagues, it looks like a lot of fun, Nov 23rd, are you here already? No? humm, let's wait a bit more.

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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2020, 11:01:25 AM »
Ready!!

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2020, 08:20:20 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2020, 04:43:47 PM »
LET'S GO!!!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2020, 02:32:02 AM »
I'm guessing the bottom 27 songs just aren't participating at all then. We had 152 songs in the last League. We have 125 this year, including the play-in songs.

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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2020, 02:12:19 PM »
I don't think I've ever had the patience to participate in this but will do this time around.
Everyone else, except Wolfking is wrong.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2020, 08:07:13 AM »
Play In Tournament - Opening Round - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55912.0
1. Hollow Years defeats 32. My Last Farewell 28-4 
16. A Savior in the Square defeats 17. Heaven’s Cove 16-12 
8. The Looking Glass defeats 25. The Answer Lies Within 20-11
9. Afterlife defeats 24. Never Enough 20-12 
28. The Best of Times defeats 5. The Dark Eternal Night 17-15 
12. Room 137 defeats 21. When Your Time Has Come 17-12   
4. Moment of Betrayal defeats 29. Hymn of a Thousand Voices 26-2
20. Eve defeats 13. Viper King 17-14 
30. Enigma Machine defeats 3. The Walking Shadow 18-12
14. A Fortune in Lies defeats 19. Take Away My Pain 18-14
27. I Walk Beside You defeats 6. Our New World 21-10
11. Only a Matter of Time defeats 22. A Tempting Offer 24-8 
7. Raise the Knife defeats 26. Speak to Me 17-13
10. Anna Lee defeats 23. Astonishing 24-8 
31. Repentance defeats 2. Far From Heaven 17-14
15. To Live Forever defeats 18. Along For the Ride 19-12 


32 voters is awesome. Hopefully that holds up when the season starts and the voting time gets cut in half.

Poll for the 2nd round will be created on Monday.

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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2020, 07:09:27 AM »
Play in Tournament - 2nd Round Results - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55947.0
1. Hollow Years defeats 16. A Savior in the Square 26-7 
9. Afterlife defeats 8. The Looking Glass 17-16 
28. The Best of Times defeats 12. Room 137 19-14 
4. Moment of Betrayal defeats 20. Eve 20-12 
14. A Fortune in Lies defeats 30. Enigma Machine 24-9
11. Only a Matter of Time defeats 27. I Walk Beside You 20-13 
7. Raise the Knife defeats 10. Anna Lee 22-10
15. To Live Forever defeats 31. Repentance 20-12 

8 songs left. Quarterfinals start on Monday!

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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2020, 09:23:08 AM »
These results continue to baffle.

Eve beating Viper King?!

TBOT and Repentance beating...well...anything else?!

Also -- probably because I wasn't paying enough attention -- I only just realized this was a bracket style tournament and not a mini-league.
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2020, 10:06:06 AM »
These results continue to baffle.

Eve beating Viper King?!
Nothing shocking about that.
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2020, 02:34:39 PM »
Quarterfinals - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55974.0
1. Hollow Years defeats 9. Afterlife 20-14 
28. The Best of Times defeats 4. Moment of Betrayal 18-15
11. Only a Matter of Time defeats 14. A Fortune in Lies 20-14 
7. Raise the Knife defeats 15. To Live Forever 21-11 

3 out of the final 4 songs of this play in tournament will be added to Division 3.

Next week will be a bit different. On Monday, the Semifinals will have a 48 hour voting period. On Wednesday, the Championship and 3rd Place match will have a 48 hour voting period.
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2020, 04:33:07 PM »
Quarterfinals - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55974.0
1. Hollow Years defeats 9. Afterlife 20-14 
28. The Best of Times defeats 4. Moment of Betrayal 18-15
11. Only a Matter of Time defeats 14. A Fortune in Lies 20-14 
7. Raise the Knife defeats 15. To Live Forever 21-11 

3 out of the final 4 songs of this play in tournament will be added to Division 3.

Next week will be a bite different. On Monday, the Semifinals will have a 48 hour voting period. On Wednesday, the Championship and 3rd Place match will have a 48 hour voting period.

For me, it couldn't be more obvious which song is the odd one out here.
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2020, 02:47:52 AM »
Shame Moment of Betrayal lost, but alright. Hopefully Hollow Years gets through.
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2020, 08:28:38 AM »
Play In Tournament 3rd Place & Championship Matches - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56014.0

3rd Place Match
11. Only a Matter of Time defeats 28. The Best of Times 20-9 

Championship Match
1. Hollow Years defeats 7. Raise the Knife 16-13 

Hollow Years is the Play In Tournament Champion! It, along with Raise the Knife and Only a Matter of Time have been promoted to Division 3.

The 2021 season kicks off on January 4th. See you then!

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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2020, 08:52:13 AM »
What a way to begin the new year!  :metal
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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2020, 12:55:40 PM »
A bit of a shame to see the masterpiece that is The Best of Times not qualify, but I guess that's just the way the ol' ball bounces.

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« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2020, 01:04:22 PM »
A bit of a shame to see the masterpiece that is The Best of Times not qualify, but I guess that's just the way the ol' ball bounces.

If you think TBOT is a "masterpiece," what sort of words do you use for songs like ACOS, Metropolis and ITNOG?
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« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2020, 01:51:56 PM »
A bit of a shame to see the masterpiece that is The Best of Times not qualify, but I guess that's just the way the ol' ball bounces.

If you think TBOT is a "masterpiece," what sort of words do you use for songs like ACOS, Metropolis and ITNOG?

For A Change of Seasons, I'm not sure how to describe it because I tend to have a hard time trying to describe what is my favorite song ever made, and what I'd consider to be the greatest song ever made.
As for the other two, I would say "shy of perfection". I'd easily put Metropolis Pt. 1 into the "masterpiece" category, but I've listened to it so much that I'm burned out on it so it has gone down my rankings in some ways.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2021, 07:27:40 AM »
Division 3 - Week 1 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56081.0
1.   The Killing Hand defeats New Millennium 16-11
2.   The Enemy Inside defeats Forsaken 16-11
3.   Wither defeats Paralyzed 17-10
4.   The Shattered Fortress defeats A Life Left Behind 16-12
5.   One Last Time defeats The Bigger Picture 19-9 
6.   Raise the Knife defeats Constant Motion 16-11
7.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 24-4
8.   Only a Matter of Time defeats The Silent Man 17-11
9.   Out of Reach defeats Dystopian Overture 14-13
10.   Three Days & Hollow Years tied 14-14 
11.   Through Her Eyes defeats A Better Life 16-12
12.   The Gift of Music defeats Vacant 16-12
13.   The Path That Divides & Honor Thy Father tied 13-13
14.   Ytse Jam defeats Ravenskill 19-8
15.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Lord Nafaryus 17-11 
16.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Beneath the Surface 15-13

Division 3 Standings after Week 1 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

1. Sacrificed Sons 1-0 (+20)
2. Ytse Jam 1-0 (+11)
3. One Last Time 1-0 (+10)
4. Wither 1-0 (+7)
5. A Nightmare to Remember 1-0 (+6)
5. Only a Matter of Time 1-0 (+6)
7. The Enemy Inside 1-0 (+5)
7. The Killing Hand 1-0 (+5)
7. Raise the Knife 1-0 (+5)
10. The Gift of Music 1-0 (+4)
10. The Shattered Fortress 1-0 (+4)
10. Through Her Eyes 1-0 (+4)
13. Lost Not Forgotten 1-0 (+2) 
14. Out of Reach 1-0 (+1)
15. Hollow Years 0-0-1 (0)
15. Honor Thy Father 0-0-1 (0)
15. The Path That Divides 0-0-1 (0)
15. Three Days 0-0-1 (0)
19. Dystopian Overture 0-1 (-1)
20. Beneath the Surface 0-1 (-2)
21. A Better Life 0-1 (-4) 
21. A Life Left Behind 0-1 (-4)
21. Vacant 0-1 (-4)
24. Constant Motion 0-1 (-5) 
24. Forsaken 0-1 (-5)
24. New Millennium 0-1 (-5)
27. Lord Nafaryus 0-1 (-6)
27. The Silent Man 0-1 (-6)
29. Paralyzed 0-1 (-7)
30. The Bigger Picture 0-1 (-10)
31. Ravenskill 0-1 (-11)
32. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 0-1 (-20)


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« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2021, 07:16:15 AM »
Division 2 - Week 1 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56085.0
1.   The Root of All Evil defeats Lie 15-12
2.   These Walls defeats This Dying Soul 15-12 
3.   Caught in a Web defeats Behind the Veil 21-6 
4.   Another Day defeats Untethered Angel 19-7 
5.   Strange Deja vu defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 21-6
6.   Stream of Consciousness defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 22-5
7.   The Great Debate defeats Fall into the Light 14-13
8.   Barstool Warrior defeats On the Backs of Angels 16-10
9.   The Dance of Eternity defeats This is the Life 18-9 
10.   Wait For Sleep defeats Innocence Faded 20-7 
11.   Panic Attack defeats Surrender to Reason 19-7 
12.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats Peruvian Skies 21-6 
13.   Space-Dye Vest defeats S2N 18-9 
14.   Overture 1928 defeats Endless Sacrifice 16-11 
15.   As I Am defeats A New Beginning 16-11
16.   Pale Blue Dot defeats Outcry 17-10



Division 2 Standings after Week 1 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

1. Stream of Consciousness 1-0 (+17)
2. Caught in a Web 1-0 (+15)
2. Hell’s Kitchen 1-0 (+15)
2. Strange déjà vu 1-0 (+15)
5. Wait For Sleep 1-0 (+13)
6. Another Day 1-0 (+12)
6. Panic Attack 1-0 (+12)
8. The Dance of Eternity 1-0 (+9)
8. Space-Dye Vest 1-0 (+9)
10. Pale Blue Dot 1-0 (+7)
11. Barstool Warrior 1-0 (+6)
12. As I Am  1-0 (+5)
12. Overture 1928 1-0 (+5)
14. The Root of All Evil 1-0 (+3)
14. These Walls 1-0 (+3)
16. The Great Debate 1-0 (+1)
17. Fall into the Light 0-1 (-1)
18. Lie 0-1 (-3)
18. This Dying Soul 0-1 (-3)
20. Endless Sacrifice 0-1 (-5)
20. A New Beginning 0-1 (-5) 
22. On the Backs of Angels (-6)
23. Outcry 0-1 (-7)
24. S2N 0-1 (-9)
24. This is the Life 0-1 (-9)
26. Surrender to Reason 0-1 (-12)
26. Untethered Angel 0-1 (-12)
28. Innocence Faded 0-1 (-13)   
29. Behind the Veil 0-1 (-15)
29. Lifting Shadows of a Dream (-15)
29. Peruvian Skies 0-1 (-15)   
32. The Ministry of Lost Souls (-17)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2021, 07:25:44 AM »
Division 1 Week 1 Results - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56086.0
1.   Beyond This Life defeats 6:00 20-10
2.   Scarred defeats Blind Faith 18-12
3.   The Spirit Carries On defeats Misunderstood 18-12
4.   Surrounded defeats Bridges in the Sky 16-14 
5.   Erotomania defeats Disappear 17-13 
6.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Fatal Tragedy 16-14
7.   Metropolis defeats Illumination Theory 24-6
8.   Home defeats In the Presence of Enemies 17-12
9.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Pull Me Under 24-6
10.   Take the Time defeats The Count of Tuscany 17-13
11.   A Change of Seasons defeats Voices 25-5
12.   Learning to Live defeats The Glass Prison 24-6
13.   Octavarium defeats The Mirror 24-6 
14.   At Wit’s End defeats Lines in the Sand 16-14 
15.   Finally Free defeats In the Name of God 17-12
16.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence & Trial of Tears tied 15-15 

Division 1 Standings after Week 1 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.


1. A Change of Seasons 1-0 (+20)
2. Breaking All Illusions 1-0 (+18)
2. Learning to Live 1-0 (+18)
2. Metropolis 1-0 (+18)
2. Octavarium 1-0 (+18)
6. Beyond this Life 1-0 (+10)
7. Scarred 1-0 (+6)
7. The Spirit Carries On 1-0 (+6)
9. Finally Free 1-0 (+5)
9. Home 1-0 (+5)
11. Erotomania 1-0 (+4)
11. Take the Time 1-0 (+4)
13. At Wit’s End 1-0 (+2) 
13. Surrounded 1-0 (+2)
13. Under a Glass Moon 1-0 (+2)   
16. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 0-0-1 (0)
16. Trial of Tears 0-0-1 (0)
18. Bridges in the Sky 0-1 (-2)
18. Fatal Tragedy 0-1 (-2)
18. Lines in the Sand 0-1 (-2) 
21. The Count of Tuscany 0-1 (-4)
21. Disappear 0-1 (-4)
23. In the Name of God 0-1 (-5)
23. In the Presence of Enemies 0-1 (-5)   
25. Blind Faith 0-1 (-6)
25. Misunderstood 0-1 (-6)
27. 6:00 0-1 (-10)
28. The Glass Prison 0-1 (-18)
28. Illumination Theory 0-1 (-18)
28. The Mirror 0-1 (-18) 
28. Pull Me Under 0-1 (-18)
32. Voices 0-1 (-20)


Week 2 begins on Monday.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2021, 11:30:05 AM »
Not much to comment so far but it's gonna be interesting to see all the impossible choices play out in the Division 1!
I use my sig to pimp some bands from Italy! Check out Elvenking (Power / Folk metal), Folkstone (Rock / Medieval metal), Arcana Opera (Gothic/Noir/Heavy metal) and the beautiful voice of Elisa!

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2021, 07:20:31 AM »
Division 3 Week 2 Results - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56105.0
1.   The Silent Man defeats A Life Left Behind 17-11
2.   Ytse Jam defeats Paralyzed 19-10 
3.   The Path That Divides defeats Ravenskill 12-8 
4.   Beneath the Surface defeats Forsaken 16-12
5.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Constant Motion 18-11
6.   Raise the Knife defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 23-4
7.   New Millennium defeats The Bigger Picture 19-10
8.   One Last Time defeats Dystopian Overture 21-8
9.   Three Days defeats Lord Nafaryus 19-6 
10.   Out of Reach defeats A Better Life 14-12
11.   Hollow Years defeats Vacant 20-9
12.   Through Her Eyes defeats Wither 18-11
13.   Honor Thy Father defeats The Gift of Music 16-12
14.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Lost Not Forgotten 17-12
15.   The Killing Hand defeats The Enemy Inside 18-10 
16.   Sacrificed Sons defeats A Nightmare to Remember 18-10



Division 3 Standings after Week 2 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Sacrificed Sons 2-0 (+28)
2. Raise the Knife 2-0 (+24)
3. One Last Time 2-0 (+23)
4. Ytse Jam 2-0 (+20)
5. The Killing Hand 2-0 (+13)
6. Only a Matter of Time 2-0 (+11)
6. The Shattered Fortress 2-0 (+11)
6. Through Her Eyes 2-0 (+11)
9. Out of Reach 2-0 (+3)
10. Three Days 1-0-1 (+13)
11. Hollow Years 1-0-1 (+11)
12. Honor Thy Father 1-0-1 (+4)
12. The Path That Divides 1-0-1 (+4)
14. New Millennium 1-1 (+4)
15. Beneath the Surface 1-1 (+2)
16. The Gift of Music 1-1 (0)
16. The Silent Man 1-1 (0)
16. Wither 1-1 (0)
19. A Nightmare to Remember 1-1 (-2)
20. Lost Not Forgotten 1-1 (-3) 
20. The Enemy Inside 1-1 (-3)
22. A Better Life 0-2 (-6) 
23. Forsaken 0-2 (-9)
24. A Life Left Behind 0-2 (-10)
25. Constant Motion 0-2 (-12) 
16. Dystopian Overture 0-2 (-14)
27. Ravenskill 0-2 (-15)
27. Vacant 0-2 (-15)
29. Paralyzed 0-2 (-16)
30. The Bigger Picture 0-2 (-19)
30. Lord Nafaryus 0-2 (-19) 
32. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 0-2 (-39)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2021, 07:47:05 AM »
Division 2 Week 2 Results - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56108.0
1.   On the Backs of Angels defeats Untethered Angel 17-10
2.   Lie defeats As I Am 15-12 
3.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats A New Beginning 17-10
4.   This Dying Soul defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 14-12
5.   Another Day defeats Behind the Veil 22-5 
6.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Fall into the Light 17-10
7.   The Great Debate defeats The Dance of Eternity 18-9 
8.   Panic Attack defeats This is the Life 18-9 
9.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats Innocence Faded 17-10
10.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Surrender to Reason 19-8
11.   Peruvian Skies defeats Outcry 16-11 
12.   Endless Sacrifice defeats S2N 14-13
13.   Wait For Sleep defeats Barstool Warrior 15-12   
14.   Overture 1928 defeats Pale Blue Dot 16-10
15.   The Root of All Evil defeats These Walls 17-10
16.   Strange déjà vu defeats Caught in a Web 21-6



Division 2 Standings after Week 2 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. Strange déjà vu 2-0 (+30)
2. Another Day 2-0 (+29)
3. Stream of Consciousness 2-0 (+24)
4. Hell’s Kitchen 2-0 (+22)
5. Panic Attack 2-0 (+21)
6. Space-Dye Vest 2-0 (+18)
7. Wait For Sleep 2-0 (+16)
8. Overture 1928 2-0 (+11)
9. The Great Debate 2-0 (+10)
9. The Root of All Evil 2-0 (+10)
11. Barstool Warrior 1-1 (+3)
12. As I Am  1-1 (+2)
13. On the Backs of Angels 1-1 (+1)
13. Pale Blue Dot 1-1 (+1)   
15 Caught in a Web 1-1 (0)
15. The Dance of Eternity 1-1 (0)
15. Lie 1-1 (0)
18. This Dying Soul 1-1 (-1)
19. Endless Sacrifice 1-1 (-4)
19. These Walls 1-1 (-4)
21. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 1-1 (-8)
21. Fall into the Light 0-2 (-8)
23. Peruvian Skies 1-1 (-10)   
23. S2N 0-2 (-10)
25. A New Beginning 0-2 (-12) 
25. Outcry 0-2 (-12)
27. This is the Life 0-2 (-18)
28. The Ministry of Lost Souls 0-2 (-19)
28. Untethered Angel 0-2 (-19)
30. Innocence Faded 0-2 (-20)   
31. Surrender to Reason 0-2 (-21)
32. Behind the Veil 0-2 (-32)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2021, 07:02:04 AM »
Division 1 Week 2 Results - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56112.0
1.   Metropolis defeats Misunderstood 21-5
2.   Learning to Live defeats Beyond This Life 22-4
3.   Pull Me Under defeats The Spirit Carries On 16-10 
4.   Finally Free defeats 6:00 19-7
5.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Erotomania 19-7
6.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Disappear 16-10
7.   Fatal Tragedy defeats At Wit’s End 19-6 
8.   Take the Time defeats The Mirror 14-12
9.   Voices defeats Under a Glass Moon 17-9 
10.   Octavarium defeats Blind Faith 20-6 
11.   A Change of Seasons defeats Bridges in the Sky 22-4
12.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Illumination Theory 16-8
13.   Lines in the Sand & In the Name of God tied 13-13
14.   Trial of Tears defeats The Glass Prison 14-12 
15.   Home defeats Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 14-12 
16.    Scarred defeats Surrounded 14-12 


Division 1 Standings after Week 2 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
1. A Change of Seasons 2-0 (+38)
2. Learning to Live 2-0 (+36)
3. Metropolis 2-0 (+34)
4. Octavarium 2-0 (+32)
5. Breaking All Illusions 2-0 (+30)
6. Finally Free 2-0 (+17)
7. Scarred 2-0 (+8)
8. Home 2-0 (+7)
9. Take the Time 2-0 (+6)
10. Trial of Tears 1-0-1 (+2)
11. Fatal Tragedy 1-1 (+11)
12. In the Presence of Enemies 1-1 (+3)   
13. The Count of Tuscany 1-1 (+2)
13. The Spirit Carries On 1-1 (+2)
15. Surrounded 1-1 (0)
16. Under a Glass Moon 1-1 (-6)   
17. Beyond this Life 1-1 (-8)
17. Erotomania 1-1 (-8)
19. At Wit’s End 1-1 (-11) 
20. Voices 1-1 (-12)
21. Pull Me Under 1-1 (-14)
22. Lines in the Sand 0-1-1 (-2) 
22. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 0-1-1 (-2)
24. In the Name of God 0-1-1 (-5)
25. Disappear 0-2 (-10)
26. Blind Faith 0-2 (-20)
26. Bridges in the Sky 0-2 (-20)
26. The Glass Prison 0-2 (-20)
26. The Mirror 0-2 (-20) 
30. 6:00 0-2 (-22)
30. Misunderstood 0-2 (-22)
32. Illumination Theory 0-2 (-26)



Week 3 starts on Monday.
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