NHL (2020-2021) v. Draft, sign, & trade.

[Anguyen92]

Considering that the NHL has exactly zero personality, i have no issue whatsoever with the Kucherov presser. Listening to an intermission interview with an NHL player is like nails on a chalkboard

So I guess you are blocking that Duncan Keith trade to the Oilers out of your mind for the time being?

[SchecterShredder]

Considering that the NHL has exactly zero personality, i have no issue whatsoever with the Kucherov presser. Listening to an intermission interview with an NHL player is like nails on a chalkboard

So I guess you are blocking that Duncan Keith trade to the Oilers out of your mind for the time being?

We don't talk about that around here.

[SchecterShredder]

It's being received about as well as the Lucic signing did.

[jingle.boy]

Or Hall for Larsen?

[pg1067]

But...but...but...Duncan Keith is one of the 100 greatest players in the history of the NHL!

[SchecterShredder]

We don't talk about the Chiarelli years. Just more darkness there.

I don't actually mind loading Jones ( he's got some considerable off-ice baggage and an issue with the bottle). But Jones, and a pick, and full salary for a well over-ripe player? Ken Holland must have been high when he came up with this idea. I sure hope the reports are wrong, and Chicago is actually retaining half the salary

[Anguyen92]

^^ You also get a guy from the Blackhawks AHL roster as well (whose stats I'm seeing and yeah.......)  That's something, right......  That trade would make a little more sense (it would be somewhat similar to Carter being sent to Penguins with Kings retaining half salary) if Chicago was retaining half salary.

[jingle.boy]

We don't talk about the Chiarelli years. Just more darkness there.

I don't actually mind loading Jones ( he's got some considerable off-ice baggage and an issue with the bottle). But Jones, and a pick, and full salary for a well over-ripe player? Ken Holland must have been high when he came up with this idea. I sure hope the reports are wrong, and Chicago is actually retaining half the salary

But teams can only retain a max of 25% of AAV.

[Anguyen92]

^^ I thought the max was 50%.  Otherwise, this number below that the Kings are getting a hit on would be around $1.3M instead of $2.6M if what you said was true.

[jingle.boy]

You’re right. It’s 50% of remaining AAV. I got mixed up as I was thinking about the 3-way trades that have happened recently.

[goo-goo]

Pekka Rinne Retires (Nashville goalie)

One of my favorite goalies to play the game. Sad to see him go and being one of the best, but not being able to hoist a Stanley Cup.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/pekka-rinne-nhl-hockey-nashville-predators-retirement-annoucement?fbclid=IwAR1xqG42-hb4SEqjkxb1KNign1S3gAjuaer9GN5lrhx0glc0iF110-9aqTg

[jingle.boy]

Damn... I thought he might transition into a tandem role somewhere.  Seems that's necessary to give the primary goalie enough rest thru the season, so they are fresh for playoffs.

[gmillerdrake]

Damn... I thought he might transition into a tandem role somewhere.  Seems that's necessary to give the primary goalie enough rest thru the season, so they are fresh for playoffs.

Hasn’t he been dealing with nagging injuries though the past couple seasons? Maybe he just figured it wasn’t worth the physical sacrifice?

When he was at top form he was a wall.

[Hyperplex]

Looks like a normal season starting in October, usual divisions, 82 games, with protocols for both vaccinated and unvaccinated players. Still no agreement regarding the Olympics, so two versions of the schedule were briefed to GMs, one with and one without a break.

[SchecterShredder]

Damn... I thought he might transition into a tandem role somewhere.  Seems that's necessary to give the primary goalie enough rest thru the season, so they are fresh for playoffs.

Hasn’t he been dealing with nagging injuries though the past couple seasons? Maybe he just figured it wasn’t worth the physical sacrifice?

When he was at top form he was a wall.

Could be that he's planning to play his twilight years back in Finland. And, you're absolutely correct: Rinne in top form was among the best for a decade

[Anguyen92]

So I was watching a Hockey Guy Youtube video when he's going over the news around the league for the day and I noted this following information.  Holy f***,  Suter and Parise from the Wild both got bought out?  I know those long 13 year contracts was going to age horribly, but man, I didn't think the organization was going to resort to buying both out.  One maybe, and from what I heard Parise was a bit in the doghouse, but both?

[jingle.boy]

Wonder what that does for their cap space?  No need.  Damn! Capfriendly is FAST!

Holy fuck this is going to hurt them - not as much this year, but $12M for '22/'23 and $14m for 2 years after that!?!?!   

[SchecterShredder]

Wonder what that does for their cap space?  No need.  Damn! Capfriendly is FAST!

Holy fuck this is going to hurt them - not as much this year, but $12M for '22/'23 and $14m for 2 years after that!?!?!   

$14M dead space?

[jingle.boy]

Wonder what that does for their cap space?  No need.  Damn! Capfriendly is FAST!

Holy fuck this is going to hurt them - not as much this year, but $12M for '22/'23 and $14m for 2 years after that!?!?!   

$14M dead space?

It would seem so - https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/wild

[romdrums]

Considering that the NHL has exactly zero personality, i have no issue whatsoever with the Kucherov presser. Listening to an intermission interview with an NHL player is like nails on a chalkboard

So I guess you are blocking that Duncan Keith trade to the Oilers out of your mind for the time being?

We don't talk about that around here.

As a Wings fan, I’m glad Ken Holland is someone else’s problem now.  And to think, if he had waited, he could have gotten Suter for a fraction of the cost of Keith, and not given up any assets. 

[crazy climber dude]

Avs trade Ryan Graves to New Jersey for a left winger prospect and a 2nd round pick. Likely an expansion draft induced trade...Cracken going to snatch up players like Vegas did a couple of years ago.

[TAC]

Blues exposing Taresenko? Interesting, but I guess not surprising.


Price waives NMC. Wow!

[KevShmev]

Blues exposing Taresenko? Interesting, but I guess not surprising.

My guess is they are getting bad offers for him, meaning they can do one of two things:

1) Trade Tarasenko for peanuts and then still have to expose a player (Dunn or Barbashev?), meaning they'd lose two players.

2) Expose Tarasenko and lose him to Seattle for nothing in return, but not lose anyone else in the draft, meaning they'd lose just Tarasenko.

My guess is that they value the player they do not want to expose instead of Tarasenko more than whatever teams are offering for Tarasenko.

By all accounts, the relationship between Tarasenko and the Blues is irreparable, so that is a factor as well.   

[TAC]

Plus, they rid themselves of Tarasenko's salary completely.

[KevShmev]

I believe that is correct.  Plus, the odds of Tarasenko ever being the player again that he was prior to the shoulder surgeries are pretty low, so they are gambling as well that he really is done as far as playing at an all-star level on a consistent basis.

[gmillerdrake]

Blues exposing Taresenko? Interesting, but I guess not surprising.

My guess is they are getting bad offers for him, meaning they can do one of two things:

1) Trade Tarasenko for peanuts and then still have to expose a player (Dunn or Barbashev?), meaning they'd lose two players.

2) Expose Tarasenko and lose him to Seattle for nothing in return, but not lose anyone else in the draft, meaning they'd lose just Tarasenko.

My guess is that they value the player they do not want to expose instead of Tarasenko more than whatever teams are offering for Tarasenko.

By all accounts, the relationship between Tarasenko and the Blues is irreparable, so that is a factor as well.   

Armstrong has received several offers to take Tarasenko and his salary……but like you said Kev the Blues would have gotten nothing in return. I think Armstrong has to come to the realization that at this point draft pics are what you’re getting. Maybe a low tier player.

And Tarasenko has to realize he just isn’t all that valuable anymore.

[jingle.boy]

Ryan Ellis for Nolan Patrick, and then Patrick to Vegas for Cody Glass. I think the Flyers got a good deal there!

It's really fascinating to see these 'expansion' moves that wouldn't have been done otherwise.

I'm not sure the logic behind the Goodrow trade to the Rangers.  Why trade for a pending UFA?  Unless you plan/want to offer an 8-year deal ... but to a 28-year old 3rd liner?

Heiskanen cashed in.  I think $8.5M x 8 years will be a good deal for the Stars.  That kid is gonna be a stud.

[TAC]

Heiskanen cashed in.  I think $8.5M x 8 years will be a good deal for the Stars.  That kid is gonna be a stud.

It is?

I don't know how I feel about it. I mean, he'll only be 29 when it expires so they do have him in his prime.

Charlie McAvoy is smiling somewhere. No way the Bruins give him anything close to that.

Very disappointed at the lack of list leaks last night.

[TAC]

I'm still trying to figure out a scenario where a team protects 8-1 as opposed to 7-3-1.

Maybe if you're looking to expose some salary, or if you're more afraid of losing your 8th best forward than your 3rd best D?

[jingle.boy]

I'm still trying to figure out a scenario where a team protects 8-1 as opposed to 7-3-1.

Maybe if you're looking to expose some salary, or if you're more afraid of losing your 8th best forward than your 3rd best D?

Nashville might've been in that spot, but not now with the trade of Ellis.  Perhaps there are teams that don't have enough forwards to expose (that meet the required criteria)?

I'm really stunned at the Price move.  Both Mtl and Price are playing chicken with Seattle - jingle.son is 100% convinced they'll take him.  I still think they'll take Holtby or Lehner, and my other bet would be Georgiev or whoever Columbus exposes.  I personally think Murray is over-rated.  Ironic now that he's exposed, and Flower (likely) is protected.

[TAC]

I'm still trying to figure out a scenario where a team protects 8-1 as opposed to 7-3-1.

Maybe if you're looking to expose some salary, or if you're more afraid of losing your 8th best forward than your 3rd best D?

Nashville might've been in that spot, but not now with the trade of Ellis.  Perhaps there are teams that don't have enough forwards to expose (that meet the required criteria)?

I'm really stunned at the Price move.  Both Mtl and Price are playing chicken with Seattle - jingle.son is 100% convinced they'll take him.  I still think they'll take Holtby or Lehner, and my other bet would be Georgiev or whoever Columbus exposes.  I personally think Murray is over-rated.  Ironic now that he's exposed, and Flower (likely) is protected.

I've been following the twitters (yeah you read that right, bitches) of the TSN guys since last night. Freidman thinks the Leafs went 8-1.
Chris Johnson said that Price is due am $11m bonus in September. Definitely a game of chicken. Why would the Habs even take the chance just to protect Jake Allen? I hope they get burned.

[Anguyen92]

I'm really stunned at the Price move.  Both Mtl and Price are playing chicken with Seattle - jingle.son is 100% convinced they'll take him.  I still think they'll take Holtby or Lehner, and my other bet would be Georgiev or whoever Columbus exposes.  I personally think Murray is over-rated.  Ironic now that he's exposed, and Flower (likely) is protected.

Vegas is exempted from the expansion draft.  They don't need to expose anyone.

From the looks of Lisa Dillman of the Athletic and various insiders regarding the Kings, this looks like this is their protected list.

Fwds - L. Andersson, Arvidsson, Brown, Iafallo, Kempe, Kopitar, Moore

Def - Doughty, Roy, Walker

Goalie - Petersen

https://twitter.com/mayorNHL/status/1416764772511490051

I'm not surprised at all about the players listed except for one guy.  I'm surprised if they decide to protect Brown.  Mid-30s, one year left at $5.9M, best days clearly behind him (although he can still be very useful in certain situations and has played much better in the back half of his contract).  He wasn't even protected in the Vegas draft (Kings went 4-4-1), but then again, his last three years prior to the Vegas draft was not very good (I'm sure some people thought at the time that contract was going to be bought out at some point in time, but the Kings will just let it ride to the end at this point).

Somehow, prior to Carey Price being exposed, apparently hockey Twitter was shocked that Quick was exposed.  Yeah, apparently, the Kings should have protect their mid-30s goalie and let the mid-20s up-and-coming get exposed and Seattle picks him.  Right.  So whose their next starter after Quick is done with the contract in two years???  Answer that question, you morons (not you guys here, you are all awesome, just the Twitter morons).

[TAC]

Lists are out!

https://media.nhl.com/public/news/15205

[Anguyen92]

Cripes, I can't open that page.  I guess everyone is clicking on it.

[TAC]

It opened for me. It just took a bit.