NHL (2020-2021) v. Draft, sign, & trade.

[pg1067]

Not NHL, but that was a great Gold Medal game last night. Did the ladies get any espouse down south?

Espouse?

I didn't even know this was happening, so it's certainly not well publicized.  I just looked at the U.S. roster, and there's one player who's five months YOUNGER than my son, and that kinda bums me out.   

[jingle.boy]

Exposure.  Damn auto-correct, and not proof-reading!

Too bad, it was a very good game.

I always thought I was getting old when top tier sports athletes were younger than me .... now it's getting to the point where (as you say) they are younger than my kids!

[pg1067]

I always thought I was getting old when top tier sports athletes were younger than me .... now it's getting to the point where (as you say) they are younger than my kids!

Right?!

I think Chris Chelios was the last active NHL player who was older than me.  Omar Vizquel was the last active MLB player older than me, and there was probably an NFL punter who was the last NFL player older than me.

I think there were a couple kids at the 2018 Olympics younger than my son.

Is Cheryl Bernard still competing?   

[TAC]

I'll throw this here..

https://www.tsn.ca/ohl-suspends-montreal-first-round-pick-logan-mailloux-indefinitely-1.1688988


What do you guys think of the Logan Mailloux situation?


As a 17 y/o playing in Sweden, he took a picture of a girl in a sex act with him and showed it to his teammates. He paid a fine, basically pleading guilty. he recused himself from this year's draft, yet the Canadiens still drafted him. PM Trudeau said they displayed a lack of judgement.
He has said all of the right things.

Now the OHL suspends him.

Maybe the girl's father would want him to burn in hell, but WTF?? Sure, what he did was shitty, but he didn't rape the girl. At what point do we give the kid a break and let him get on with his life?

[gmillerdrake]

I'll throw this here..

https://www.tsn.ca/ohl-suspends-montreal-first-round-pick-logan-mailloux-indefinitely-1.1688988


What do you guys think of the Logan Mailloux situation?


As a 17 y/o playing in Sweden, he took a picture of a girl in a sex act with him and showed it to his teammates. He paid a fine, basically pleading guilty. he recused himself from this year's draft, yet the Canadiens still drafted him. PM Trudeau said they displayed a lack of judgement.
He has said all of the right things.

Now the OHL suspends him.

Maybe the girl's father would want him to burn in hell, but WTF?? Sure, what he did was shitty, but he didn't rape the girl. At what point do we give the kid a break and let him get on with his life?

All I can say is that I'm extremely grateful this technology didn't exist during my teenage years. Was what he did a crappy, horrible thing to do? Taking vids like this and sharing nudes seems to be the thing 'the kids these days' are doing. I would be livid if this was my daughter.....I'd be livid if my son did something like that.....but as a pretty wise person once said.....let those of us who have not sinned cast the first stone.

He doesn't deserve to have his livelihood stolen from him but it looks like at this point in time that is what will happen to him.

[SchecterShredder]

I'll throw this here..

https://www.tsn.ca/ohl-suspends-montreal-first-round-pick-logan-mailloux-indefinitely-1.1688988


What do you guys think of the Logan Mailloux situation?


As a 17 y/o playing in Sweden, he took a picture of a girl in a sex act with him and showed it to his teammates. He paid a fine, basically pleading guilty. he recused himself from this year's draft, yet the Canadiens still drafted him. PM Trudeau said they displayed a lack of judgement.
He has said all of the right things.

Now the OHL suspends him.

Maybe the girl's father would want him to burn in hell, but WTF?? Sure, what he did was shitty, but he didn't rape the girl. At what point do we give the kid a break and let him get on with his life?

Well, if the girl was under 18 we'd can that distributing child pornography in Canada. OHL has every right to suspend him, and I'm glad they did. Trying to defend him by saying he's said all the right things and paid a fine is a terrible message. You clearly don't have any daughters.

[SchecterShredder]

I'll follow that up with adding that Trudeau should keep his mouth shut. And before you ask, yes, i did vote for him

[jingle.boy]

I'll follow that up with adding that Trudeau should keep his mouth shut. And before you ask, yes, i did vote for him

Yeah, JT should focus on getting his own house in order.

I don't have a problem with the suspension.  Given he was simply "on loan" to the Swedish team, the OHL is very much onside to do this.

I guess my question is "how fast do we give the kid a break and let him get on with his life?"  Is a year enough to just sweep it under the rug?  2?  I don't have an answer, but I'm not bent out of shape over the suspension.  I believe Bergevin is known to be a bit of a womanizer himself, so drafting him just to get a francophone in the draft was a POS move, especially when the kid announced no team should draft him. 

[Hyperplex]

NHL is back in the Winter Olympics.

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-players-will-participate-in-2022-beijing-olympics/c-326072268

[Anguyen92]

Sweet.  Now we can plan out our fantasy rosters for the countries.  I honestly don't care about whose in it.  All the major players (US, Canada, Sweden, Finland, etc.) should have competitive enough rosters.

Problem is the games are going to be held at like 2-3 AM in the Pacific.  I will have to find a way stay awake for those. 20 day season pause though.  Wow.

This piece in the announcement below may be critical I feel. 

The agreement allows for the possibility of a later decision to withdraw in the event evolving COVID-19 conditions are deemed by the NHL and NHLPA to render participation by NHL players to be impractical or unsafe.

[SchecterShredder]

That's about the standard Olympic break. It's obviously in the NHLs best interest, commercially at least, to have a presence in China. Connor McDavid, among many other superstar young players, will be making their Olympic debut. This will be great for the league considering the nearly 2B people in China.

[Anguyen92]

I could have sworn it was shorter.  Like it was 15 days.  Granted, I get it with the All-Star break and the quarantine protocols and stuff like that.

Anywho, the Athletic have come up with their projected teams list for the main countries that looks to be the favorites.  As a Kings fan, I probably would have very little interest since there's only one guy that could look like he can crack a roster spot and he hasn't even played a game for the team yet.  I mean I get it.  Slovenia is probably not in this so no Kopitar.  Quick and Brown is too old and probably not good enough to overtake someone in the US roster.  Doughty though....  I get that he is a very vocal person and that people think that his play does not warrant the cap hit and all, but when there's a fire lit up in him, he can still play at a solid level that a lot of teams would want in a top defensemen.  Canada is Canada though and they have high expectations and probably would lean towards being a little younger.  This projection doesn't have Stamkos for Team Canada.

[SchecterShredder]

I'd take Stamkos over everyone in the bottom 6 on the chart

[jingle.boy]

Fuck those are some stacked looking teams.  Really surprised at Bobs AND Sorokin not being pegged for team Russia.  Stamkos is an injury risk.  I don't see JT making team Canada (so over-rated).  Where is Werenski on Team USA!?!?!  That Defense is stacked.

Teams need balance an 'role' players - the don't need the top 12 scorers from their nation.  That's why O'Reilly and Stone will make Team Canada.

TBH, Canada looks kinda weak.  On paper I'd rank those lineups

USA
Russia
Canada
Sweden
Finland

Gonna be some damned fine hockey come February.  It's been too long since we've seen best-on-best in the world.

[SchecterShredder]

Fuck off, Chad. Canada is not going to have a weak team like the Turino Olympics.

[jingle.boy]

Fuck off, Chad. Canada is not going to I've a weak team like the Turino.

When I say "weak", it's relative - to the other countries, and to their past teams.  I think they could be hard pressed to medal.

[Anguyen92]

Well, in other off-season news, another member of the Canadiens left yesterday.  Jesperi Kotkaniemi agreed to an offer sheet for one year, $6.1M to the Hurricanes last week.  Habs decided to not match and now Kotkaniemi is with the Canes.  Habs gets the Canes' 1st round and 3rd round picks for not matching the offer sheet.  In response, the Habs traded for Christian Dvorak of the Coyotes in exchange for a 1st and a 2nd with a lot of confusing conditions with those picks.  After taking in that contract of $4.45M, the Habs are now over the cap by $6.7M, but Shea Weber will be on LTIR so they are set for the season.

Say what you want about the Habs, they still have 11 picks for the 2022 draft and they probably got a decent enough team to make it to the playoffs even with all of the losses they had to their roster.  We'll see since the Atlantic looks to be a tough draw for them.

[jingle.boy]

Well, in other off-season news, another member of the Canadiens left yesterday.  Jesperi Kotkaniemi agreed to an offer sheet for one year, $6.1M to the Hurricanes last week.  Habs decided to not match and now Kotkaniemi is with the Canes.  Habs gets the Canes' 1st round and 3rd round picks for not matching the offer sheet.  In response, the Habs traded for Christian Dvorak of the Coyotes in exchange for a 1st and a 2nd with a lot of confusing conditions with those picks.  After taking in that contract of $4.45M, the Habs are now over the cap by $6.7M, but Shea Weber will be on LTIR so they are set for the season.

Say what you want about the Habs, they still have 11 picks for the 2022 draft and they probably got a decent enough team to make it to the playoffs even with all of the losses they had to their roster.  We'll see since the Atlantic looks to be a tough draw for them.

Going back to the traditional format, I don't see how they make the playoffs.  They were punching WAY out of their weight-class with that playoff run.  I can't see that roster (they have precisely zero depth at center - who's #1, or #2 for that matter between Hoffmann, Suzuki, and Dvorak) putting together enough points to get ahead of Boston and Toronto, and/or whoever is going to finish 4th/5th in the Metro.

I've been meaning to mention that Kotkaniemi signing - Waddell/Hurricanes did a masterful job trolling the Habs last week - releasing the exact same statement the Habs made when the offer sheet'd Aho, giving Kotkaniemi a $20 signing bonus (Aho's number), and then tweeting in (and changing their twitter BIO to) French.

[SchecterShredder]

Somebody not named Schecter go start the 2021-22 thread. Training camp is nearly upon us!

[Anguyen92]

Sure, I can take a shot at making the new thread.  I got a subheadline in mind.