Author Topic: NHL (2020-2021) v. Draft, sign, & trade. (Read 73190 times)

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #1505 on:** July 23, 2021, 02:39:18 PM »

Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on July 23, 2021, 02:25:28 PM

Rangers trade Buchnevich, because life has lost all meaning for me.

yeah.....I'm digging that trade though for the Blues. Blais (when healthy) is a pesky forechecker who can drop in a few goals here and there and deliver some good hits....but he's just not engaged at all. I'll take this trade for sure.....sorry

romdrums · « **Reply #1506 on:** July 23, 2021, 03:20:11 PM »

Not to be outdone, or is it out-dumbed, Philly sent their 2021 1st rd pick and 2022 2nd rd pick, plus Robert Hagg to Buffalo for Rasmus Ristolainen.

And the Canucks just got OEK and Michael Garland from the Coyotes for the 9th overall pick, Jay Beagle, Loui Eriksson, and Antoine Roussel.

Anguyen92 · « **Reply #1507 on:** July 23, 2021, 03:43:10 PM »

Coyotes are making some moves here. Taking in rough contracts and getting some picks in the process. They need those picks. They forfeited #11 due to violating the league's Combine Testing Policy last year and now they got #9 and all they needed to do is take in some rough contracts that will last a year and trade their bad contract that goes for five more years and what looks like the signing rights of a good player in Garland.

Yesterday, they also got Shayne Gostisbehere, 2022 2nd round pick (PHI), and 2022 7th round pick (STL) and Philly got the "Future Considerations" guy. That guy shows up everywhere, it seems.

Anguyen92 · « **Reply #1508 on:** July 23, 2021, 06:23:06 PM »

Moar trades!!!!! Exit Duncan Keith, enter Seth Jones for the Blackhawks.

Hard to tell if it's a lot to give. They only move down #20 positions in this year's draft, give up another 1st round pick next year or in 2023, a second round, and a prospect (who was their first round pick at #8 in 2018). The Kings was apparently in the hunt for Jones as well. I don't think I would have stomach giving that much for a year of that guy and who knows if he wants to stay after that year or go UFA.

Edit: Whistles...... apparently, the contract extension after next season is $9.5M x 8 years.......

Hyperplex · « **Reply #1509 on:** July 23, 2021, 07:53:34 PM »

Detroit trades for Nedeljkovic; Bernier, a pending UFA, and a 3rd round pick, then sign Nedeljkovic to a 2 year contract.
That's pretty damn significant and potentially plugs a big hole in their goaltending prospects. Hell of a deal for Yzerman.

Anguyen92 · « **Reply #1510 on:** July 23, 2021, 07:57:34 PM »

^^ Wasn't done quite yet. Took Washington's first round pick and a few other picks to move up to #15 and nabbed a goalie prospect.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #1511 on:** July 24, 2021, 04:37:58 AM »

Quote from: Hyperplex on July 23, 2021, 07:53:34 PM

Detroit trades for Nedeljkovic; Bernier, a pending UFA, and a 3rd round pick, then sign Nedeljkovic to a 2 year contract.
That's pretty damn significant and potentially plugs a big hole in their goaltending prospects. Hell of a deal for Yzerman.

It'll be a great deal if Nedeljkvovic can keep up that level of play, or even close to it. I'm not sure if the Jones deal a good contract for the Hawks or not. He's only 26, and D-men don't decline in the level of play as much as forwards seem to once they hit their 30s - hell, some of them get better!

Really surprised Eichel didn't move yesterday. I figured a 1st round pick would be part of any deal.

XeRocks81 · « **Reply #1512 on:** July 24, 2021, 08:32:54 AM »

well this was certainly a choice… https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canadiens-make-shocking-dismaying-choice-select-mailloux-draft/

TAC · « **Reply #1513 on:** July 24, 2021, 08:39:01 AM »

Jones’ deal is ridiculous. He’s not that good, and by not good, he’s not 9.5m good.

SchecterShredder · « **Reply #1514 on:** July 24, 2021, 09:11:40 AM »

Quote from: XeRocks81 on July 24, 2021, 08:32:54 AM

well this was certainly a choice… https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canadiens-make-shocking-dismaying-choice-select-mailloux-draft/

Yup. Said, stupid choice just so they could take a French Canadian player. Stupid

Anguyen92 · « **Reply #1515 on:** July 24, 2021, 09:19:47 AM »

^^ I think it's more than just picking a French Canadian sounding name. The guy that got picked even stated to any teams considering it to not draft him. Bergevin knew that (and should know the ongoing baggage of the guy he picked), but that guy loves living on the edge of thinking he's a god or he's really one step away from being fired. It's hard to tell with him so he makes this kind of decision and causes all kinds of crap.

dparrott · « **Reply #1516 on:** July 24, 2021, 10:03:14 AM »

Kraken don't play Sharks until mid December, Kings until mid January. They only come to Anaheim twice, the first is the same week the Seahawks come to LA, so I'll probably miss that. Not the schedule I was hoping for.

TheCountOfNYC · « **Reply #1517 on:** July 24, 2021, 06:48:40 PM »

Quote from: gmillerdrake on July 23, 2021, 02:39:18 PM

Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on July 23, 2021, 02:25:28 PM
Rangers trade Buchnevich, because life has lost all meaning for me.

yeah.....I'm digging that trade though for the Blues. Blais (when healthy) is a pesky forechecker who can drop in a few goals here and there and deliver some good hits....but he's just not engaged at all. I'll take this trade for sure.....sorry

You guys got a good one. Please treat him well.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #1518 on:** July 27, 2021, 10:18:27 AM »

Darren Dreger is reporting Flower is on his way to Chicago via trade. Nothing given in return other than full salary going to Chicago.

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #1519 on:** July 27, 2021, 10:21:52 AM »

Quote from: jingle.boy on July 27, 2021, 10:18:27 AM

Darren Dreger is reporting Flower is on his way to Chicago via trade. Nothing given in return other than full salary going to Chicago.

Just read on The Athletic that Fleury is said to be ‘evaluating’ his future having only heard the news from Twitter…..nothing from the club.

So, what happens if he retires after he’s traded?

jingle.boy · « **Reply #1520 on:** July 27, 2021, 11:29:26 AM »

Ovi back with the Caps for 5 x $9.5

TAC · « **Reply #1521 on:** July 27, 2021, 11:31:00 AM »

Quote from: gmillerdrake on July 23, 2021, 02:39:18 PM

Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on July 23, 2021, 02:25:28 PM
Rangers trade Buchnevich, because life has lost all meaning for me.

yeah.....I'm digging that trade though for the Blues. Blais (when healthy) is a pesky forechecker who can drop in a few goals here and there and deliver some good hits....but he's just not engaged at all. I'll take this trade for sure.....sorry

Yeah I'm sorry, but why did the Rangers make this trade? I thought Buchnevich was pretty good.

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #1522 on:** July 27, 2021, 11:33:12 AM »

Quote from: TAC on July 27, 2021, 11:31:00 AM

Quote from: gmillerdrake on July 23, 2021, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on July 23, 2021, 02:25:28 PM
Rangers trade Buchnevich, because life has lost all meaning for me.

yeah.....I'm digging that trade though for the Blues. Blais (when healthy) is a pesky forechecker who can drop in a few goals here and there and deliver some good hits....but he's just not engaged at all. I'll take this trade for sure.....sorry

Yeah I'm sorry, but why did the Rangers make this trade? I thought Buchnevich was pretty good.

And the Blues just signed him to 4 years.....$23.2 Million. $5.8 mil AAV. Pretty great deal for a solid player in the prime of his career.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #1523 on:** July 27, 2021, 02:11:09 PM »

Quote from: TAC on July 27, 2021, 11:31:00 AM

Quote from: gmillerdrake on July 23, 2021, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on July 23, 2021, 02:25:28 PM
Rangers trade Buchnevich, because life has lost all meaning for me.

yeah.....I'm digging that trade though for the Blues. Blais (when healthy) is a pesky forechecker who can drop in a few goals here and there and deliver some good hits....but he's just not engaged at all. I'll take this trade for sure.....sorry

Yeah I'm sorry, but why did the Rangers make this trade? I thought Buchnevich was pretty good.

Perhaps making a play for a bigger name? Eichel?

TAC · « **Reply #1524 on:** July 27, 2021, 05:14:31 PM »

So..making room? OK, that makes sense.

Anguyen92 · « **Reply #1525 on:** July 27, 2021, 06:15:17 PM »

I feel like the window to get Eichel pre-season is done right now for any team, because the draft already passed by. I wouldn't be surprised if rumblings about it though come November. The Kings are "alleged" to be in on him and that #8 pick in the draft (which seems to yield a decent offensive defensemen prospect) would have been a nice piece of the trade in addition to maybe next year's first round pick, a decent roster player, and a good/top prospect. Therefore, since the draft already passed by, I can breathe a little knowing that the Kings won't get Eichel.

Anguyen92 · « **Reply #1526 on:** July 27, 2021, 08:27:01 PM »

Blackhawks continues to make a lot of moves. I'm trying to figure out why.

They traded to get Fleury and gave up an AHL player and then traded Seabrook's contract for Tyler Johnson of the Bolts. On top of that, the Bolts got rid of a contract that I heard that's not good for them and I think Seabrook is "retired" now so they will use his cap space for LTIR purposes for the next three years. My goodness, they are going to find a way to continue being competitive next season and exploit the cap rules to the brim again, aren't they?

Also, I'm sure many Golden Knight fans are pretty darn pissed that Fleury is gone.

dparrott · « **Reply #1527 on:** July 28, 2021, 08:46:57 AM »

I made a quick demo of an intro/theme song I wrote for the Kraken. I wrote this all in my head and created it using SampleTank and Ableton Live, no instruments were used. I feel they should have their own scary theme music.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dme77pyVIirvLSm2ZdTt57yHPti79-zD/view?fbclid=IwAR0g-gr9fDyTXZ12qmdfNZLXiz1abcrwnp5Fb2X1fvakWfyPY7GFHWXIojM

jingle.boy · « **Reply #1528 on:** July 28, 2021, 10:18:39 AM »

Lots of moves already. Gonna be a busy day watching the ticker.

Anguyen92 · « **Reply #1529 on:** July 28, 2021, 12:21:12 PM »

Hmmm. I was going into free agency thinking Rob Blake wouldn't make any big risky moves and all I read so far is that Andreas Athanasiou got resigned at $2.7M for a year. Not bad, not exciting.

Then I read on Capfriendly that the Kings signed Phillip Danault from Montreal at $5.5M for 6 years???

Hmmmm. Hard to say if I like this move. On the one hand, it would relief Kopitar on some certain responsibilities in their zone. However, the guy is not know to score a lot and this team desperately needs more scoring..... I'm puzzled.

On another note, should we create a new 2021-2022 thread in light of Free Agency frenzy?

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #1530 on:** July 28, 2021, 01:38:39 PM »

Schwartz to the Kraken for 5 years.....$5.5 mil a year. Good for him but man....that's a steep price for a streaky forward that is oft injured. He's a good PK guy but all in all I'm perfectly fine with the Blues turning the page on him. He's just not been good for four years now.

BUT...he was a beast in the Cup Run and folks are still holding onto that like he played like that all the time. They forget that until the playoffs that season was horrific for him. Anyway, I truly don't think the Blues will miss him at all as this frees up a spot for some younger talent to fill. Need to get to the next chapter and one way is not hanging onto aging veterans for sentimental sake.

I do think this is just another example of how the expansion process is a joke. Schwartz was exposed in the draft because he was a free agent.....the Kraken had an exclusive 48 hour period to speak with him which they did.....no contract or anything.....expansion hits and they take Dunn from the Blues then the next week they sign Schwartz. Definitely some BS going on but there is no rule in place to keep them from fleecing teams like that. They basically got two Blues for the price of one. If Dunn or Schwartz were more important I'd be upset but I'm perfectly fine with those two walking.

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #1531 on:** July 28, 2021, 02:57:32 PM »

Grubauer to the Kraken also huh? Wow. I feel really bad for the Avalanche

He was pretty much the reason they were as good as they were last season....he stole a LOT of games for them. It'll be interesting to see how they recover from that. Couldn't happen to a nicer owner.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #1532 on:** July 28, 2021, 06:01:47 PM »

Quote from: gmillerdrake on July 28, 2021, 02:57:32 PM

Grubauer to the Kraken also huh? Wow. I feel really bad for the Avalanche He was pretty much the reason they were as good as they were last season....he stole a LOT of games for them. It'll be interesting to see how they recover from that. Couldn't happen to a nicer owner.

How do you really feel, Gary?

The Avs are gonna have to make a play for something, and the pickings are pretty slim. Rask? Kuemper's name seems to keep coming up. Anyone else potential tradeable?

I'll post more thoughts on the day later.

TAC · « **Reply #1533 on:** July 28, 2021, 06:05:00 PM »

Rask isn't coming back until February of March. He just had hip surgery. And if he's uprooting his family, it's going to be to Finland.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #1534 on:** July 28, 2021, 06:07:56 PM »

Quote from: TAC on July 28, 2021, 06:05:00 PM

Rask isn't coming back until February of March. He just had hip surgery. And if he's uprooting his family, it's going to be to Finland.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

So with the loss of Halak, how's the backup situation in Beantown?

TAC · « **Reply #1535 on:** July 28, 2021, 06:14:49 PM »

Quote from: jingle.boy on July 28, 2021, 06:07:56 PM

Quote from: TAC on July 28, 2021, 06:05:00 PM
Rask isn't coming back until February of March. He just had hip surgery. And if he's uprooting his family, it's going to be to Finland.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

So with the loss of Halak, how's the backup situation in Beantown?

Well, they signed Linus Ullmark, and they're going to give Jeremy Swayman a chance to be the backup. He played pretty well, and served as the backup for the playoffs last year. He's supposedly the goalie of the future.

Ullmark's record is pretty good, considering he was playing for Buffalo. I wonder why Buffalo didn't extend themselves on him.

Chad, here's a good synopsis:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/whats-going-on-with-the-bruins-goaltending-situation/ar-AAMGc2g?li=BBnbfcL

At least it explained why Vlader was traded.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #1536 on:** July 28, 2021, 07:51:04 PM »

Quote from: TAC on July 28, 2021, 06:14:49 PM

Quote from: jingle.boy on July 28, 2021, 06:07:56 PM
Quote from: TAC on July 28, 2021, 06:05:00 PM
Rask isn't coming back until February of March. He just had hip surgery. And if he's uprooting his family, it's going to be to Finland.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

So with the loss of Halak, how's the backup situation in Beantown?

Well, they signed Linus Ullmark, and they're going to give Jeremy Swayman a chance to be the backup. He played pretty well, and served as the backup for the playoffs last year. He's supposedly the goalie of the future.

Ullmark's record is pretty good, considering he was playing for Buffalo. I wonder why Buffalo didn't extend themselves on him.

I think they did, but who the hell wants to be in Buffalo. Now they have no legit goalie, with Hutton bailing for the Coyotes - straight from one shit-show to another.

That was a good summary. I know the Flames were looking for a veritable backup for Markstrom.

Anguyen92 · « **Reply #1537 on:** July 28, 2021, 09:00:58 PM »

Ahhh, the smell of the end of the first day of Free Agency. Look at all of that money in circulation to be paid out in however long.

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #1538 on:** July 29, 2021, 07:05:33 AM »

Rough day for Canes fans here in Raleigh. The team went from a "Bunch of Jerks" in the ironic sense to a "Bunch of Jerks" in the literal sense.

romdrums · « **Reply #1539 on:** July 29, 2021, 07:29:04 AM »

Quote from: TheOutlawXanadu on July 29, 2021, 07:05:33 AM

Rough day for Canes fans here in Raleigh. The team went from a "Bunch of Jerks" in the ironic sense to a "Bunch of Jerks" in the literal sense.

It could be worse, you could be a Habs fan.

News: Paralyzed official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7m7l8iqGAk

Author Topic: NHL (2020-2021) v. Draft, sign, & trade. (Read 73190 times)