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« Reply #140 on: October 07, 2020, 11:10:29 AM »
My thoughts as I'm re-listening to the whole Van Halen catalogue, which I posted also on Facebook: if booze, heat and cheap ladies' perfume had a sound, this would be IT!!!! At least for the first six albums. With Sammy it was more like soda, spring and high end fashion...but still great. I even rediscovered some gems like Fools, Dirty Movies, Light Up the Sky. Aftershock, Cabo Wabo...so much brilliance, and what a smile!!!!

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« Reply #141 on: October 07, 2020, 11:36:40 AM »
Was thinking about 5150 Studios... I'm assuming that and EVH's gear will go to Wolfie.
I just hope the whole thing doesn't become a clusterfuk between him and Ed's wife Janie.

Then there's all the unreleased music and video.

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« Reply #142 on: October 07, 2020, 11:46:03 AM »
I cannot claim to have been a huge Van Halen fan, but I had a couple of VH phases that were HUGE for me.

Van Halen I was my first hard rock album, and it really shaped my musical interests for probably the rest of my entire life.  I've told parts of this story before, but:  The first album I ever bought was a cassette of Queen's The Game from the music store (as in, musical instrument store) around the corner.  My next musical "purchase" was a huge album dump in the form of Columbia House's "13 albums for a penny" deal.  I forget exactly how the initial offer worked, but I think you picked your first album for $2.99, and then 13 for a penny.  As I was running down the list of albums to choose from, most of it was more "pop."  But I had a friend who had a few Black Sabbath, Aerosmith, and Van Halen tapes that I had heard a bit of from time to time, and I was curious about this heavier music.  I wanted to get Ozzy's debut album, but was terrified that my parents (primarily, my mom) would completely freak out.  So I chose Van Halen I instead. 

I remember when the box arrived.  I opened it up and remember some of those tapes including Mean At Work, Journey, Fleetwood Mac, Toni Basil...and, of course, Van Halen.  We were going to my great grandmother's house, so I grabbed a couple of tapes to bring along, in hopes I could listen.  I remember that at some point, I came outside by myself and popped VHI into the cassette player in my dad's Volvo.  I don't believe I listened to the whole album--I think it was just most or all of side 1.  But I remember those first three songs just blowing my mind.  I had never heard anything so heavy.  And the guitars!  This was a life-changing moment.  I liked all those other albums I bought.  But from that moment forward, guitar-based hard rock was my go-to.

Another story from years ago that I heard from the guys in Y&T:  I don't remember now whether this was something Dave Meniketti shared on his forum or whether I heard this directly from Joey Alves (Y&T's original rhythm guitar player) the couple of times I spent with him in person.  Anyhow, this goes back to the first show where this little unsigned band called Van Halen was slotted to open for Y&T.  I think this may have been the show after which VH got signed, but I don't know for sure.  Anyhow, Joey had been watching Eddie warming up and was struck with how amazing a player he was.  He immediately came back to the dressing room and told the guys about his Van Halen kid.  They kind of laughed it off, questioned how good this kid with a funny name could be, and went about their business.  So Joey brought Eddie back to the dressing room and had him play something, and it silenced everyone in the room.  They watched VH's opening set and were blown away.  And that kicked off many years of a long (mostly) friendly rivalry between the two bands.

For me, as I said, that first album really set a standard for me and helped shape my musical identity.  But I have to say that their other albums were hit and miss for me, and other than 5150 being in CONSTANT rotation back when it came out, I drafted away from this band and moved on to others.  But I cannot deny how much Eddie's innovating playing and his songwriting brought me to the vast majority of music I have loved through the years.


Tangent:  Did any of you happen to catch Mangini's post about Eddie and 5150 Studios?  :heart:
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« Reply #143 on: October 07, 2020, 11:54:57 AM »
I did read Mangini's post, and it was very moving.

Modified because I typed "Mancini"!!! Stupid autocorrect...
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« Reply #144 on: October 07, 2020, 11:58:11 AM »
Yea, MM's post about his time in 5150 was really cool to read.

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« Reply #145 on: October 07, 2020, 12:40:04 PM »
A couple more EVH tracks that seem especially appropriate today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LwYFR_-Qc

Crossing Over
EVH originally worked on but never completed this after the passing of a friend in 1983.  VH (with Hagar) completed the song after the passing of band friend and manager Ed Leffler in 1994.  It was released as a B-side to their hit single "Can't Stop Lovin' You" and as a bonus track on the Japanese import of the Balance album.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP6nKTu6TGY

Respect the Wind
Written by Eddie and his brother Alex as an instrumental epilogue to the events of the 1996 film Twister (which, incidentally, also featured an original hit song from the full Van Halen band- "Humans Being").  It played over the end credits, transitioning out of composer Mark Mancina's score.
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Re: Eddie Van Halen has passed away
« Reply #146 on: October 07, 2020, 12:46:39 PM »
I have a weird relationship with Van Halen.  I only like the first album and a couple of scattered tracks throughout the rest of the catalog, emphasis on a couple.  I don't care for any of the Hagar era material to be honest.  But that first album was really something very, very special.  And it dropped at a very pivotal time in my life.  I was 14 years old at the time.  And it inspired me to pick up the guitar.  Over the years I've played every song on that first album on every instrument on that first album.  Even now, 42 years after it was released, I still pop it in once in a while, especially at the gym.  Eddie Van Halen, a man who never took a guitar lesson, but mastered the guitar.  A guy who never learned how to read music despite taking 3 years of piano lessons as a kid. He changed the instrument of electric guitar, despite not really inventing any new techniques.  But he was able to take the finger-tapping of players like Steve Hackett (think Supper's Ready) and the whammy bar dive bombing of players like Jimmy Hendrix and turn those techniques into something that sounded new and innovative.  He inspired legions of kids like me to pick up guitar.  Truly a unique talent who will certainly be missed after dying far too young.   :( 

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Re: Eddie Van Halen has passed away
« Reply #147 on: October 07, 2020, 01:11:08 PM »
A couple more EVH tracks that seem especially appropriate today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LwYFR_-Qc

Crossing Over
EVH originally worked on but never completed this after the passing of a friend in 1983.  VH (with Hagar) completed the song after the passing of band friend and manager Ed Leffler in 1994.  It was released as a B-side to their hit single "Can't Stop Lovin' You" and as a bonus track on the Japanese import of the Balance album.

Was not familiar with this, first listen and not a song that I really enjoyed but that is a cool backstory behind it.

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« Reply #148 on: October 07, 2020, 01:13:07 PM »
https://youtu.be/yb26D8bBZB8

I found this pretty interesting.   

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« Reply #149 on: October 07, 2020, 02:13:21 PM »
What did he say?
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« Reply #150 on: October 07, 2020, 02:21:46 PM »
Thanks, Steve!
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« Reply #151 on: October 07, 2020, 02:22:47 PM »
Boy, I powered thru the first 6 albums.  Man, those things are EP's by today's standards!  VH 1 at 35 minutes is the longest!
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« Reply #152 on: October 07, 2020, 02:28:31 PM »
 Unreleased track with Gary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG_Llpssa4s

 If this one was included in the album and one of the crappy ones that made it to VH III was cut, maybe the album would have had better luck.

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« Reply #153 on: October 07, 2020, 02:33:09 PM »
Unreleased track with Gary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG_Llpssa4s

 If this one was included in the album and one of the crappy ones that made it to VH III was cut, maybe the album would have had better luck.

Are you trying to say that there was actually crappier songs than this??
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« Reply #154 on: October 07, 2020, 02:53:19 PM »
Unreleased track with Gary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG_Llpssa4s

 If this one was included in the album and one of the crappy ones that made it to VH III was cut, maybe the album would have had better luck.

Are you trying to say that there was actually crappier songs than this??

Four or five that made it to the album. And this song is just a demo, it's not the final product.

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« Reply #155 on: October 07, 2020, 03:01:27 PM »
Fair enough.
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« Reply #156 on: October 07, 2020, 03:51:10 PM »
Was happy to read that Sammy and Eddie made peace earlier this year and were in constant contact up until about mid year when Eddie stopped responding. They didn’t want it getting out because they didn’t want to reveal how sick Eddie was this entire year. But Sammy said it was a total love fest between the two of them and it was good to talk again. They also didn’t want reunion rumors to start because they both knew that wasn’t going to happen.

That makes me feel happy. I’m happy they buried the hatchet.
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« Reply #157 on: October 07, 2020, 04:09:25 PM »
https://youtu.be/yb26D8bBZB8

I found this pretty interesting.

Just 10 minutes in but it's captivating.
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« Reply #158 on: October 07, 2020, 04:21:33 PM »
Was happy to read that Sammy and Eddie made peace earlier this year and were in constant contact up until about mid year when Eddie stopped responding. They didn’t want it getting out because they didn’t want to reveal how sick Eddie was this entire year. But Sammy said it was a total love fest between the two of them and it was good to talk again. They also didn’t want reunion rumors to start because they both knew that wasn’t going to happen.

That makes me feel happy. I’m happy they buried the hatchet.

That's a silver lining right there.

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« Reply #159 on: October 07, 2020, 04:22:30 PM »
https://youtu.be/yb26D8bBZB8

I found this pretty interesting.

That was fantastic!  So many interesting things I didn't know about him.  I also noticed how his voice sounded so striking similar to George Carlin.  I wonder if anyone else thinks so.
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« Reply #160 on: October 07, 2020, 04:30:44 PM »
Was happy to read that Sammy and Eddie made peace earlier this year and were in constant contact up until about mid year when Eddie stopped responding. They didn’t want it getting out because they didn’t want to reveal how sick Eddie was this entire year. But Sammy said it was a total love fest between the two of them and it was good to talk again. They also didn’t want reunion rumors to start because they both knew that wasn’t going to happen.

That makes me feel happy. I’m happy they buried the hatchet.

Yea, here's blabbermouth on that https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/sammy-hagar-had-secretly-been-in-contact-with-eddie-van-halen-for-last-few-months-its-been-a-love-fest/

Really good to see these two bury the hatchet.  I know Sammy had talked for a LONG time about wanting to be friendly with Eddie again and not for either of them to die with the negativity so I'm really happy to see they were able to do that.

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« Reply #161 on: October 07, 2020, 05:25:34 PM »
Too bad DLR obviously didn’t feel the need to. Then again, as much as I consider him to be the greatest “front man” in the history of rock, part of me thinks he’s devoid of a real personality.

That guy used to be my hero, but he’s almost a self parody at this point...and his extremely brief statement online struck me as almost dismissive. Kinda rubbed me the wrong way. But maybe he’ll say more later. (He usually does  :-\ )
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« Reply #162 on: October 07, 2020, 05:37:15 PM »
Too bad DLR obviously didn’t feel the need to. Then again, as much as I consider him to be the greatest “front man” in the history of rock, part of me thinks he’s devoid of a real personality.

That guy used to be my hero, but he’s almost a self parody at this point...and his extremely brief statement online struck me as almost dismissive. Kinda rubbed me the wrong way. But maybe he’ll say more later. (He usually does  :-\ )

I felt the same...I read it and was like "wait... that's it???"

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« Reply #163 on: October 07, 2020, 05:46:03 PM »
Too bad DLR obviously didn’t feel the need to. Then again, as much as I consider him to be the greatest “front man” in the history of rock, part of me thinks he’s devoid of a real personality.

That guy used to be my hero, but he’s almost a self parody at this point...and his extremely brief statement online struck me as almost dismissive. Kinda rubbed me the wrong way. But maybe he’ll say more later. (He usually does  :-\ )

I felt the same...I read it and was like "wait... that's it???"


I'm hoping that he's just taking time to process things. People definitely mourn in different ways, but given how DLR has appeared to be throughout his time in the spotlight It must be difficult to turn all that off in some fashion to express grief and the the loss of someone who clearly was a huge part of his life. Have to also consider the regrets of all the turmoil over time. I really hope they all managed to come to some peace before Eddie's passing.

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« Reply #164 on: October 07, 2020, 05:49:45 PM »
Too bad DLR obviously didn’t feel the need to. Then again, as much as I consider him to be the greatest “front man” in the history of rock, part of me thinks he’s devoid of a real personality.

That guy used to be my hero, but he’s almost a self parody at this point...and his extremely brief statement online struck me as almost dismissive. Kinda rubbed me the wrong way. But maybe he’ll say more later. (He usually does  :-\ )

I felt the same...I read it and was like "wait... that's it???"
well, DLR made a posting: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGBeQOCpuTf/
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« Reply #165 on: October 07, 2020, 05:52:39 PM »
He did but it's not very sympathetic. 
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« Reply #166 on: October 07, 2020, 06:03:33 PM »
Too bad DLR obviously didn’t feel the need to. Then again, as much as I consider him to be the greatest “front man” in the history of rock, part of me thinks he’s devoid of a real personality.

That guy used to be my hero, but he’s almost a self parody at this point...and his extremely brief statement online struck me as almost dismissive. Kinda rubbed me the wrong way. But maybe he’ll say more later. (He usually does  :-\ )

I felt the same...I read it and was like "wait... that's it???"
well, DLR made a posting: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGBeQOCpuTf/

That is actually the post I was referencing.
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« Reply #167 on: October 07, 2020, 07:30:38 PM »
From Michael Schenker:

https://twitter.com/MW_Schenker/status/1313902807662178304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1313902807662178304%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blabbermouth.net%2Fnews%2Fmichael-schenker-eddie-van-halen-was-a-complete-fantastic-all-around-amazing-guitarist%2F


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« Reply #168 on: October 08, 2020, 05:23:51 AM »
Just listening to the Twister soundtrack instrumental Respect The Wind. I'd never heard it before but it's awesome. I've never heard a big emotional solo from Eddie before and always wondered at how he avoided flack for that - you know, the sort of flack Yngwie gets. All speed, no emotion. i always felt that about Eddie. his playing was awesome but where's the big emotional solo?

Yeah, I've found it.

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« Reply #169 on: October 08, 2020, 05:30:04 AM »
Probably because Eddie's playing is not all about showing what he can do. Yeah, there are those moments, but most of the time, the flashy things EVH does are in service of the songs (think for instance the intro to Hot for Teacher), whereas Yngwie is basically mostly just shredding away while disregarding proper songwriting. Michael Angelo Batio is an even bigger offender.

Also Van Halen's music is fun to listen to and it grooves. Most shred guitar nonsense I find boring.
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« Reply #170 on: October 08, 2020, 06:02:49 AM »
Was happy to read that Sammy and Eddie made peace earlier this year and were in constant contact up until about mid year when Eddie stopped responding. They didn’t want it getting out because they didn’t want to reveal how sick Eddie was this entire year. But Sammy said it was a total love fest between the two of them and it was good to talk again. They also didn’t want reunion rumors to start because they both knew that wasn’t going to happen.

That makes me feel happy. I’m happy they buried the hatchet.

I'd had no idea that they'd finally patched things up. It actually depressed me a LOT yesterday seeing Sammy's reaction and assuming that Eddie had died never fixing things up with him. This is a significant relief IMO.

Does anyone know if Eddie also patched things up with Michael Anthony?
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« Reply #171 on: October 08, 2020, 06:22:58 AM »
He took some shit (and ridicule) for the videos for these, but I actually dig them a LOT:

Catherine:  https://youtu.be/bPLW4sSY75Y
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« Reply #172 on: October 08, 2020, 06:34:37 AM »
He took some shit (and ridicule) for the videos for these, but I actually dig them a LOT:

Catherine:  https://youtu.be/bPLW4sSY75Y
Rise: https://youtu.be/PFlrv9P05bA

Was this the porno soundtrack I heard about?

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« Reply #173 on: October 08, 2020, 06:57:13 AM »
He took some shit (and ridicule) for the videos for these, but I actually dig them a LOT:

Catherine:  https://youtu.be/bPLW4sSY75Y
Rise: https://youtu.be/PFlrv9P05bA

Was this the porno soundtrack I heard about?

That's the one. I don't mind the music, but Eddie looked awful on those videos.

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« Reply #174 on: October 08, 2020, 06:57:29 AM »
Does anyone know if Eddie also patched things up with Michael Anthony?
Haven't seen anything that confirms it beyond a doubt, but I would imagine that they had to some degree for a couple different reasons. For starters, because Eddie and Sammy made amends, and Sammy is tight with Michael and likely would've encouraged the amends to be made with Michael, too. Additionally, both Michael and Sammy have confirmed that Michael had been contacted by the VH camp about returning to do a big tour in 2019, which obviously never happened, rumored to be because of Eddie's health (which is probably a foregone conclusion now). I can't imagine that they would've asked Michael to come back if some resolution had not already been made between the two of them. I say that because it's seems from Eddie's viewpoint, Michael was expendable in the the first place, as evidence by him being replaced by Wolfie. That in contrast with having DLR come back, which was probably viewed as more of a "necessity" to make a big splash once again; still, even after the reunion began, it seems Eddie and DLR weren't friends but business partners.
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