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Distant Memories - New live release

Started by T-ski, September 23, 2020, 08:44:51 AM

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faizoff

Quote from: Fritzinger on October 02, 2020, 08:35:13 AM
DT just posted on Facebook that the phone booth cover will be used for the deluxe edition. I wish they used that one for all formats.

I'm hoping it's the same artbook edition or whatever it was that first appeared as limited to 200 only.

TheRich13

Anyone know if there's a Majesty symbol anywhere on the phone booth artwork ?
I'm not seeing one , but I'm looking on my phone ...
Thanks!

gzarruk

Quote from: TheRich13 on October 02, 2020, 11:43:52 AM
Anyone know if there's a Majesty symbol anywhere on the phone booth artwork ?
I'm not seeing one , but I'm looking on my phone ...
Thanks!

Good point! I can't find it either (if there's one).

Dublagent66

I don't see the symbol but is that a crown just above the word Telephone?  ???

NoFred

Wow. Saw them at one of the spring NA shows, and PBD was the first set highlight. So much so I think it should stay on the set list.

But here? JLB sounds awful. What the hell happened? It's hard to listen to.

fadetoblackdude7

Quote from: TheRich13 on October 02, 2020, 11:43:52 AM
Anyone know if there's a Majesty symbol anywhere on the phone booth artwork ?
I'm not seeing one , but I'm looking on my phone ...
Thanks!

They've skipped out on it before on Once in a Livetime. I've never found it at least. Maybe it doesn't apply to live releases?

Dublagent66

Quote from: NoFred on October 02, 2020, 02:57:39 PM
Wow. Saw them at one of the spring NA shows, and PBD was the first set highlight. So much so I think it should stay on the set list.

But here? JLB sounds awful. What the hell happened? It's hard to listen to.

What are you talking about?  Maybe his voice is not as high in the mix, but he doesn't sound horrible, ok?  Maybe you should upgrade the device you're listening with. Starting with your ears!   :justjen

NoFred

Would love some new ears. It's not the quality though, he doesn't sound OK here not annunciating at all. To be clear he was on point at the show I attended. I remember some lalala's in the denser parts of songs like Strange Deja Vu, but that's it. I'm suggesting he's unusually off here, it's still awful.

Max Kuehnau

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Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on October 02, 2020, 03:56:51 PM
Quote from: TheRich13 on October 02, 2020, 11:43:52 AM
Anyone know if there’s a Majesty symbol anywhere on the phone booth artwork ?
I’m not seeing one , but I’m looking on my phone ...
Thanks!

They’ve skipped out on it before on Once in a Livetime. I’ve never found it at least. Maybe it doesn’t apply to live releases?
they did, but that was only because Storm Thorgerson (who did OIAL and FII) never used pre-existing wordmarks or logos. (although the Majesty symbol can be seen on FII). All the other cover art features it.

Dream Team

Quote from: NoFred on October 03, 2020, 08:22:10 AM
Would love some new ears. It's not the quality though, he doesn't sound OK here not annunciating at all. To be clear he was on point at the show I attended. I remember some lalala's in the denser parts of songs like Strange Deja Vu, but that's it. I'm suggesting he's unusually off here, it's still awful.

I've defended James for years, but really can't anymore  :-\. He sounds bad most of the time.

Cool Chris

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on October 03, 2020, 08:25:55 AM
they did, but that was only because Storm Thorgerson (who did OIAL and FII) never used pre-existing wordmarks or logos.

I always thought this was asinine. Does he not understand branding? Why would any established artist use someone who had this mentality?

Peter Mc

Because he's done some of the most iconic album covers for some of the most iconic bands of all time.

Cool Chris

I get it, but would he go to Maiden and say "Hey I got this great idea for an album cover, but I won't use that Eddie guy at all, because pre-existing logos and such..."

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: Cool Chris on October 04, 2020, 09:08:46 AM
I get it, but would he go to Maiden and say "Hey I got this great idea for an album cover, but I won't use that Eddie guy at all, because pre-existing logos and such..."

I think bands go to him, more than him going to bands.


Cool Chris

I know, I know.... bad example. Still, I&W and Awake were my two favorite albums in the early-mid 90s. When I saw FII in the music store the first time (pre-internet, and I didn't subscribe to any magazines, etc...) I thought "What the heck is this, is this a new DT album?" because I didn't see the band font I was so used to seeing on the I&W and Awake.

We can move on... this is apparently solely my issue.  :police:

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: Cool Chris on October 04, 2020, 10:22:19 AM
I know, I know.... bad example. Still, I&W and Awake were my two favorite albums in the early-mid 90s. When I saw FII in the music store the first time (pre-internet, and I didn't subscribe to any magazines, etc...) I thought "What the heck is this, is this a new DT album?" because I didn't see the band font I was so used to seeing on the I&W and Awake.

We can move on... this is apparently solely my issue.  :police:

I agree with you. It is an odd choice not to use a bands logo when working with bands. But, it's his personal choice and bands don't have to work with him.

Some bands are lucky and fortunate to have an artist in the band, or know one personally, to make the album art.

I don't mind Collage work at all either. As long as it's not blatantly bad like Dance of Death, then it's ok. BC&SL almost hit that line, but it's passable.

gzarruk

Quote from: Cool Chris on October 04, 2020, 10:22:19 AM
I know, I know.... bad example. Still, I&W and Awake were my two favorite albums in the early-mid 90s. When I saw FII in the music store the first time (pre-internet, and I didn't subscribe to any magazines, etc...) I thought "What the heck is this, is this a new DT album?" because I didn't see the band font I was so used to seeing on the I&W and Awake.

We can move on... this is apparently solely my issue.  :police:

I agree with you for the most part, but I actually think the FII DT font fits the album since it was a big style change for the band too, SFAM brought "their" sound back, and brought their font too :metal

pg1067

Quote from: Cool Chris on October 04, 2020, 10:22:19 AM
I know, I know.... bad example. Still, I&W and Awake were my two favorite albums in the early-mid 90s. When I saw FII in the music store the first time (pre-internet, and I didn't subscribe to any magazines, etc...) I thought "What the heck is this, is this a new DT album?" because I didn't see the band font I was so used to seeing on the I&W and Awake.

We can move on... this is apparently solely my issue.  :police:

The WTF feeling given by the cover was a warning of what was on the disc...

Fritzinger

But didn't Storm Thorgerson make Yes' Going For The One album cover? It has Roger Dean's Yes logo on it. Maybe this was before he made that decision?

Peter Mc

Quote from: Cool Chris on October 04, 2020, 10:22:19 AM
I know, I know.... bad example. Still, I&W and Awake were my two favorite albums in the early-mid 90s. When I saw FII in the music store the first time (pre-internet, and I didn't subscribe to any magazines, etc...) I thought "What the heck is this, is this a new DT album?" because I didn't see the band font I was so used to seeing on the I&W and Awake.

We can move on... this is apparently solely my issue.  :police:

No, I agree with you, I like to see the DT font on an album cover. Just saying that, if you want the kudos of having him do your cover, you have to agree to his terms.

Peter Mc

Quote from: Fritzinger on October 04, 2020, 01:33:19 PM
But didn't Storm Thorgerson make Yes' Going For The One album cover? It has Roger Dean's Yes logo on it. Maybe this was before he made that decision?

Or maybe he felt it looked right and complemented his artwork well?

pg1067

Quote from: Peter Mc on October 05, 2020, 05:37:09 AM
Quote from: Fritzinger on October 04, 2020, 01:33:19 PM
But didn't Storm Thorgerson make Yes' Going For The One album cover? It has Roger Dean's Yes logo on it. Maybe this was before he made that decision?

Or maybe he felt it looked right and complemented his artwork well?

What if the guy on the cover of GFTO is the same guy who's on the cover of Hemispheres?

Max Kuehnau

Quote from: pg1067 on October 05, 2020, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: Peter Mc on October 05, 2020, 05:37:09 AM
Quote from: Fritzinger on October 04, 2020, 01:33:19 PM
But didn't Storm Thorgerson make Yes' Going For The One album cover? It has Roger Dean's Yes logo on it. Maybe this was before he made that decision?

Or maybe he felt it looked right and complemented his artwork well?

What if the guy on the cover of GFTO is the same guy who's on the cover of Hemispheres?
is he?:D

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: Fritzinger on October 04, 2020, 01:33:19 PM
But didn't Storm Thorgerson make Yes' Going For The One album cover? It has Roger Dean's Yes logo on it. Maybe this was before he made that decision?
I don't think so - pretty sure Storm always had that mentality. I would imagine in the case of GFtO, the band insisted on Storm using their classic Yes logo. And to be honest, on that album, it looks completely out of place.

For DT, the impression I got from MP when discussing DT's album artwork was that the band pretty much lets the artist do what they want, trusting that they know what they're doing (the artists are the professionals in that field), and only vetoing something they (the band) don't like or want changed. Given that they were simply excited to have someone as legendary as Storm doing their artwork for their fourth album, they were probably willing to go along with whatever Storm suggested, hoping that it would help them move up to the next level of success and popularity.

Trav86

Quote from: Fritzinger on October 04, 2020, 01:33:19 PM
But didn't Storm Thorgerson make Yes' Going For The One album cover? It has Roger Dean's Yes logo on it. Maybe this was before he made that decision?

I think Going For The One was done by Hipgnosis.  Hipgnosis was an art design group that worked on album covers and Storm was a member of the group.  His rule about not using previous logos and fonts was probably something he adopted later when he was working on his own.  I believe Hipgnosis did the Tormato cover as well, which also has the Yes logo.

bosk1

Quote from: NoFred on October 03, 2020, 08:22:10 AM
Would love some new ears. It's not the quality though, he doesn't sound OK here not annunciating at all. To be clear he was on point at the show I attended. I remember some lalala's in the denser parts of songs like Strange Deja Vu, but that's it. I'm suggesting he's unusually off here, it's still awful.
I don't hear anything "unusually off" either.  I'm with PG:  He sounds really good to me.

pg1067

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on October 05, 2020, 09:50:43 AM
Quote from: pg1067 on October 05, 2020, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: Peter Mc on October 05, 2020, 05:37:09 AM
Quote from: Fritzinger on October 04, 2020, 01:33:19 PM
But didn't Storm Thorgerson make Yes' Going For The One album cover? It has Roger Dean's Yes logo on it. Maybe this was before he made that decision?

Or maybe he felt it looked right and complemented his artwork well?

What if the guy on the cover of GFTO is the same guy who's on the cover of Hemispheres?
is he?:D

In the absence of evidence that he isn't, I choose to be a believer!   :biggrin:

TheRich13

Just received an email from Century Media , who I purchased my preorder with . They said the cover for the art book has officially been updated since my order was placed . So it's now the phone booth artwork for the cover of the art book .

hefdaddy42

Quote from: TheRich13 on October 07, 2020, 12:40:15 PM
Just received an email from Century Media , who I purchased my preorder with . They said the cover for the art book has officially been updated since my order was placed . So it's now the phone booth artwork for the cover of the art book .
I got that too.

Progmetty

Will the BluRay be available separately?

Max Kuehnau

Quote from: Progmetty on October 07, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
Will the BluRay be available separately?
not as of now (that anyone would know of)

faizoff

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on October 07, 2020, 01:56:12 PM
Quote from: TheRich13 on October 07, 2020, 12:40:15 PM
Just received an email from Century Media , who I purchased my preorder with . They said the cover for the art book has officially been updated since my order was placed . So it's now the phone booth artwork for the cover of the art book .
I got that too.

Same. I was actually wondering about it since the announcement regarding the new artwork came much later after the preorders went live. I don't mind at all.

cramx3

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on October 08, 2020, 02:02:24 AM
Quote from: Progmetty on October 07, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
Will the BluRay be available separately?
not as of now (that anyone would know of)

I'm not a fan of this trend lately where bands don't package the CD and video separately anymore, even worse when they force you to buy the DVD and Blu-Ray...

having said that, I just preordered the Artbook for this along side the new Devin Townsend live album via Century Media shop, saved 10% too by signing up for texts (which I will turn off once they send me the first one).

devieira73

Quote from: Setlist Scotty on October 05, 2020, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: Fritzinger on October 04, 2020, 01:33:19 PM
But didn't Storm Thorgerson make Yes' Going For The One album cover? It has Roger Dean's Yes logo on it. Maybe this was before he made that decision?
I don't think so - pretty sure Storm always had that mentality. I would imagine in the case of GFtO, the band insisted on Storm using their classic Yes logo. And to be honest, on that album, it looks completely out of place.

For DT, the impression I got from MP when discussing DT's album artwork was that the band pretty much lets the artist do what they want, trusting that they know what they're doing (the artists are the professionals in that field), and only vetoing something they (the band) don't like or want changed. Given that they were simply excited to have someone as legendary as Storm doing their artwork for their fourth album, they were probably willing to go along with whatever Storm suggested, hoping that it would help them move up to the next level of success and popularity.

Yes, I think at that point in time, DT (at least the majority of the band and they were kind of more democratic by then) was more open to suggestions in their music and career. Also, with less years of existance and smaller fan base, that logo still wasn't viewed as "so classic".

pg1067

Quote from: cramx3 on October 08, 2020, 07:11:45 AM
Quote from: Max Kuehnau on October 08, 2020, 02:02:24 AM
Quote from: Progmetty on October 07, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
Will the BluRay be available separately?
not as of now (that anyone would know of)

I'm not a fan of this trend lately where bands don't package the CD and video separately anymore, even worse when they force you to buy the DVD and Blu-Ray...

Even worse is where they force you to buy vinyl if you want all of the extra-special goodies (as Rush has been doing with its 40th anniversary releases, but which does not appear to be applicable to this DT product).  In this case, all I'm potentially interested in is the video.