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« Reply #1295 on: October 16, 2020, 02:54:28 PM »
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« Reply #1296 on: October 16, 2020, 02:55:53 PM »
Awesome, Gregg! And this won't be the last we hear from him either!
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« Reply #1297 on: October 16, 2020, 08:45:04 PM »
I came across this picture tonight online, and I couldn't stop looking at it.

Not sure I've ever seen Phil look so young, and Schenker sporting some Ace Frehley style top.

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« Reply #1298 on: October 17, 2020, 04:48:18 AM »
Vintage pic.

Will get into Chocolate Box tomorrow night.  Will be getting into some chocolate at the same time.

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« Reply #1299 on: October 17, 2020, 07:08:02 AM »
Vintage pic.

Will get into Chocolate Box tomorrow night.  Will be getting into some chocolate at the same time.

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« Reply #1300 on: October 17, 2020, 07:13:01 AM »
Iíll be honest, all these UFO/Mogg-Way songs are now becoming a blur. But the two opening tracks on Chocolate, Muddys Gold and Jerusalem are good stuff.

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« Reply #1301 on: October 17, 2020, 04:40:06 PM »
Iíll be honest, all these UFO/Mogg-Way songs are now becoming a blur. But the two opening tracks on Chocolate, Muddys Gold and Jerusalem are good stuff.

Chocolate Box is a grower. I liked it straight off, but I find something new everytime I listen to it.


UFO has a huge discography. It's daunting if you're not familiar with it already. I totally understand that. I experienced something similar with Orbert's Jethro Tull Discog Thread. I wasn't familiar at all, but I really wanted to get a guided tour through their music. I've always been kind of intrigued by them.

But there were definitely albums I liked more than others, and I am totally revisiting them after this thread is done. This thread will live on, so if you ever want to go back, and read the conversation about each album, you'll have it.


I'll post an update tonight as to where we are and what's coming up.
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« Reply #1302 on: October 17, 2020, 05:16:26 PM »
Iíll be honest, all these UFO/Mogg-Way songs are now becoming a blur. But the two opening tracks on Chocolate, Muddys Gold and Jerusalem are good stuff.

Chocolate Box is a grower. I liked it straight off, but I find something new everytime I listen to it.


UFO has a huge discography. It's daunting if you're not familiar with it already. I totally understand that. I experienced something similar with Orbert's Jethro Tull Discog Thread. I wasn't familiar at all, but I really wanted to get a guided tour through their music. I've always been kind of intrigued by them.

But there were definitely albums I liked more than others, and I am totally revisiting them after this thread is done. This thread will live on, so if you ever want to go back, and read the conversation about each album, you'll have it.


I'll post an update tonight as to where we are and what's coming up.

I casually tried to follow the Jethro Tull thread..........I tapped out pretty quickly.

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« Reply #1303 on: October 17, 2020, 05:36:57 PM »
I committed to it. I really wanted to experience it.
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« Reply #1304 on: October 17, 2020, 06:06:28 PM »
I committed to it. I really wanted to experience it.

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« Reply #1305 on: October 17, 2020, 07:21:00 PM »
Wow, my physical copy of Chocolate Box showed up this morning. Guy on Discogs rated it at Near Mint, but it's Mint to my eyes. I can see no issues on the disc at all. Even the jewel case is in perfect shape. This was a nice score.
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« Reply #1306 on: October 17, 2020, 07:22:04 PM »
Awesome! I hope you enjoy the album! Let us know what you think!
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« Reply #1307 on: October 17, 2020, 11:21:16 PM »
Mainly did on the last page:

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55669.msg2710781#msg2710781

I loved it. Which is why I dropped the cash for the physical. Same with Edge. That is somewhere on the way to me as well.
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« Reply #1308 on: October 18, 2020, 04:18:26 AM »
Bah, Chocolate Box will have to wait, my PC has finally shit itself after all these years.  I knew it was coming.  :'(

Will use the work PC tomorrow.

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« Reply #1309 on: October 18, 2020, 04:20:48 AM »
In other news, while I was out this weekend, I saw Schenkers Temple of Rock DVD in-store an decided to pick it up.  About to have a squizz now.

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« Reply #1310 on: October 18, 2020, 04:31:50 AM »
Hmmmm.....might have to give Lovedrive a listen.

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« Reply #1311 on: October 18, 2020, 04:50:55 AM »
Mainly did on the last page:

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55669.msg2710781#msg2710781

I loved it. Which is why I dropped the cash for the physical. Same with Edge. That is somewhere on the way to me as well.


I just wanted to hear it again!  ;D

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« Reply #1312 on: October 18, 2020, 04:52:34 AM »
This is a good show.  Doogie is great on these old tracks and MS is on fire.  This Michael Voss that for some reason just came out for one song was really good too.

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« Reply #1313 on: October 18, 2020, 07:03:58 AM »
This is a good show.  Doogie is great on these old tracks and MS is on fire.  This Michael Voss that for some reason just came out for one song was really good too.


I love that DVD I was literally just watching it about a week and a half ago.
I keep thinking Herman Rarebell is about to have a heart attack at any moment.  :D

I love how happy Francis Buccholz looks on this.   
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« Reply #1314 on: October 18, 2020, 02:33:17 PM »
Update!


I just wanted to let everyone know where we stand. Tonight, I'm going to post the next Schenker album, and a Mystery Album. I was going to post them on Friday, but I was sensing a little fatigue. I've thrown a lot at everyone and I appreciate everyone hanging in there.

As far as UFO goes, we have the return of Michael Schenker for 2 albums, and then the 6 Vinnie Moore albums. That's it. So we're about to round 3rd and head for home.

I will say that Michael Schenker is particularly productive from 2000 on. I'll continue to post his albums, but listen to only what you want to. There's also a couple of Pete Way albums I'll be highlighting and a solo album from a certain singer. I will not be covering the upcoming Waysted albums, however. I don't think so anyway.


I'll hold off on Covenant until Tuesday night or Wednesday morning. Just to give everyone's ears a break.




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« Reply #1315 on: October 18, 2020, 03:00:01 PM »
This is a good show.  Doogie is great on these old tracks and MS is on fire.  This Michael Voss that for some reason just came out for one song was really good too.


I love that DVD I was literally just watching it about a week and a half ago.
I keep thinking Herman Rarebell is about to have a heart attack at any moment.  :D

I love how happy Francis Buccholz looks on this.

I'll pick up the CD if I ever see it.  The couple of songs from the supporting album were very good too.

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« Reply #1316 on: October 18, 2020, 03:09:20 PM »
Michael's Temple Of Rock albums are excellent, the second two being exclusively Doogie.

We will be covering those! ;D
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« Reply #1317 on: October 18, 2020, 03:38:18 PM »
The Unforgiven





https://open.spotify.com/album/3H5P3FLo7IwBdGt0aaDzFb?si=5PFz96g2S32yT3EOueG_MA

Released February 11, 1999

1. Rude Awakening
2. The Mess I've Made
3. In And Out Of Time
4. Hello Angel
5. Fat City N.O.
6. Tower
7. Pilot Of Your Soul
8. Forever And More
9. Turning Off The Emotion
10. Live For Today
11. Illusion
12. The Storm



Michael Schenker-Guitar
Kelly Keeling-Vocals
John Onder-Bass
Shane Gaalaas-Drums
Seth Bernstein-Keyboards


MSG's next album is The Unforgiven. I remember at the time getting very favorable reviews. This is a really good album. I think Rude Awakening isn't a great opener, but pretty much everything that follows is excellent. I've warmed to Kelly Keeling's voice over the years. He is damn good, but I think he still lacks some of the personality in Michael's other vocalists. He has an almost Coverdale quality to his voice.




The Unforgiven World Tour




https://open.spotify.com/album/1w36gzyKXczm80QW9sBznQ?si=qltW8QgCSMKje2BnX8cTxQ

Released September 8, 1999


Disc 1                              Disc 2
1. Armed And Ready                       1. Assault Attack
2. Only You Can Rock Me                 2. Another Piece Of Meat
3. Natural Thing                            3. Love To Love
4.  Pushed To The Limit                  4. Too Hot To Handle
5. Written In The Sand                      5. Lights Out
          6. Captain Nemo                6. Bijou Pleasurette/Positive Forward
7. Into The Arena                             7. Doctor Doctor
8. Essence                                     8. Rock Bottom
                                                                                 9. Pilot Of Your Soul
                                                                                     10. The Mess I've Made
                                                                                     11. Fat City
                                                                                     12. On And On
                                                                                     13. Attack Of the Mad Axeman



Michael Schenker-Guitar
Keith Slack-Vocals
Kelly Keeling-Vocals
Shane Gaalaas-Drums
Barry Sparks-Bass
Wayne Findlay-Keyboards/Guitar



Recorded at Palo Alto, CA in early May of 1999, this live album has an amazing setlist. The band is rounded out by Barry Sparks and Wayne Findlay.
Although Kelly Keeling comes on for a half dozen or so songs, the vocals are handled by Steelhouse Lane vocalist Keith Slack.*


This album's setlist speaks for itself. Drawing on Schenker's entire career.  The inclusion of songs like Pushed To The Limit, Assault Attack, and Another Piece Of Meat is fantastic.

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MYSTERY ALBUM!







https://open.spotify.com/album/5PC4gp98bK7pCofmu84tXk?si=cM1CZTevSWibQZrQf6shaA


Released January 25, 2000


1. The Thinking Machine
2. The Maze
3. Cryptic Dreams
4. Meltdown
5. Never Been To Barcelona
6. She's Only Sleeping
7. Vinman's Brew
8. Check IT Out!
9. Rain
10. Daydream
11. Watching From The Light
12. With The Flow


Vinnie Moore-Guitar
Shane Gaalaas-Drums
Barry Sparks-Bass
Wayne Findlay-Keyboards/Guitar


Basically recorded at the same gig as Michael's Unforgiven Live, Vinnie even uses Michael's band. Of course, Shane Gaalaas plays drums on The Maze, which was the album Vinnie was touring.


Last week, Jason mentioned going to see this tour and Vinnie had used Michael's band. That's amazing, but also great that the two had toured together. As you'll hear in Vinnie's own words in an upcoming post, this pairing was actually um....instrumental to him joining UFO.



@Jason, is this the show you saw?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB57FnsIVc8&t=7s
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« Reply #1318 on: October 18, 2020, 03:47:19 PM »
I still don't know what that has to do with my ears.  :lol

That set list is indeed killer.

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« Reply #1319 on: October 18, 2020, 03:59:27 PM »
Kelly Hansen is the singer of Foreigner and former singer of Hurricane. He is excellent, is that who you are taking about?

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« Reply #1320 on: October 18, 2020, 04:00:35 PM »
Oh, I think I have them confused. :rollin


I think I've always thought they were the same person. :facepalm:



Kelly Hansen was on chopped. I was going to link the episode, but apparently Kelly Keeling Chopped rendered zero results. :lol


I saw Hurricane BTW, open for Gary Moore.
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« Reply #1321 on: October 18, 2020, 04:03:43 PM »
Heís onto you

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« Reply #1322 on: October 18, 2020, 08:38:33 PM »
The Unforgiven World Tour live album is excellent, and it gets regular listens from me even after all these years. I don't really have much to add beyond that, but if you're a MS fan then this album is a must have.
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« Reply #1323 on: October 19, 2020, 05:00:25 AM »
A few songs into Choc Box and pretty good.  Although, I wished they kept the heaviness of the first 2 songs going.  Jerusalem is an absolutely amazing song.

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« Reply #1324 on: October 19, 2020, 09:20:16 AM »
Every time I try to catchup, work gets a little nutty, and I don't get the time to have solid / dedicated listens.  So, I'm over a decade (in discography years), 3 weeks, and 11 pages behind.  But, still chuggin away.  So, to bring it back a few albums, I think Making Contact is where I last left off in posting my thoughts.

Making Contact
BBAL had some good moments, but the vocal melodies were so bland. Diesel ... meh. Fool for Love... much nicer. Tasty bass licks. I get what Kade is saying about the guitar ďbendsĒ. Really like the backing keys during the solo. Great track. Excellent opening arpeggios to When itís Time to Rock.  Over all pretty good, dragged down by the chorus. The solo / instrumental section is fantastic. A most of the others were enjoyable enough, with a recurring theme that the instrumental/solo section was the strongest. You and Me was a nice ballad, but just a little too fluffy. By and large, I tend to be let down by keyboard dominated ballads. The solo was glorious, but overshadowed by the lack of edge to the song overall. I actually rather enjoyed Push, Itís Love.

Built To Destroy
Yup... straight from the opening vocal line of Rock My Nights Away, itís the second coming of Dan McCafferty. And Im not digging the keyboard led sound of this track. Naturally, thereís a good (albeit brief) solo. Gonna Make You Mine ... the guitar tone in the solo is putrid; keyboards overall are terrible. This song is shyte. Dogs of War solo slayed.  Got me all hot and bothered, and then quickly went back to the mediocrity of the rest of the verses (I did enjoy the chorus).  Systems Failing was rather ordinary, with an extraordinary solo and outro (Iím sensing a theme here).  Memo has a ripper of an opening, and slays right up to that weird keyboard line at 1:30... then weíre right back at it. Good tune there. Still Love That Little Devil was a decent rocker.  Red Sky was a definitely one of the better/best tracks on the album. Straight forward, but the vocal melodies were strong, and Barden wasnít as garbled/raspy as he normally sounds.  Oddly enough, I liked the lead riff much more than the solo. I would have really liked Rock Will Never Die ... if not for the Ďlullí moments. When it was rockin, it was ROCKIN.  Ironically, the lulls almost killed the tune for me.

I skipped Vices, and went straight to the Waysted EP.  But did slip a listen in to Night of the Wolf with everyone fawning over that on. Glad I did. :2metal:  regarding the EP, Nice opener.  2nd song... this is nice ... borderline glam metal as JJ stated. Rock Steady was .... steady. Cinderella Boys started kinda meh, but the 2nd half was dope. Ball and Chain was ... solid. :biggrin:

Misdemeanor
First 10 seconds ...  whoa!  Rest of the song .... Is this Night Ranger?  One Heart ... still with the Night Ranger vibe, with a side of .38 Special. Not bad tunes, but sure as shit not what one would expect from UFO.  Night Run has a bit more edge, but just a bit (The US mix was a little more pleasing). So far, Iím thinking this is to UFO what GUP is to Rush, and I wonder how the hell Tim can like any of this. The Only Ones... man, itís only getting worse. This is awful. And I love 80s (power) ballads. As I hinted above, I donít know if Iíve ever liked when a guitar-driven hard rock band does a keyboard driven ballad. All the worst ballads are keyboard led - When It's Love, Love Bites, Is This The Love ... all blow chunks.  Oh thank god for Mean Streets. Still a bit of a wuss song, but so far, itís like being the tallest person in a room of midgets. Name Of Love starts nice, but treads too close to the 80s AOR vibe. But man... dat solo!!! Blue was nice.  Heaven's Gate had a nice edge to it.  Wreckless was decent, aided by a great solo and outro (the former having some length to it).  The overall 'tinny' sound of the whole production really brings this song down in particular.  It's literally making me cringe here.  The Chase... ugh, is this an outtake from The J. Giles Band??
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« Reply #1325 on: October 19, 2020, 09:26:12 AM »

Misdemeanor
First 10 seconds ...  whoa!  Rest of the song .... Is this Night Ranger?  One Heart ... still with the Night Ranger vibe, with a side of .38 Special. Not bad tunes, but sure as shit not what one would expect from UFO.  Night Run has a bit more edge, but just a bit (The US mix was a little more pleasing). So far, Iím thinking this is to UFO what GUP is to Rush, and I wonder how the hell Tim can like any of this. The Only Ones... man, itís only getting worse. This is awful. And I love 80s (power) ballads. As I hinted above, I donít know if Iíve ever liked when a guitar-driven hard rock band does a keyboard driven ballad. All the worst ballads are keyboard led - When It's Love, Love Bites, Is This The Love ... all blow chunks.  Oh thank god for Mean Streets. Still a bit of a wuss song, but so far, itís like being the tallest person in a room of midgets. Name Of Love starts nice, but treads too close to the 80s AOR vibe. But man... dat solo!!! Blue was nice.  Heaven's Gate had a nice edge to it.  Wreckless was decent, aided by a great solo and outro (the former having some length to it).  The overall 'tinny' sound of the whole production really brings this song down in particular.  It's literally making me cringe here.  The Chase... ugh, is this an outtake from The J. Giles Band??

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I'm going to be checking out Chocolate Box this afternoon, work permitting.

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« Reply #1326 on: October 19, 2020, 10:16:36 AM »
About The Unforgiven World Tour album:
As a big fan of The Michael Schenker Story Live album, I think this one is also truly great, if not better, specially because of the singer that is better than the two (if I'm not mistaken) that divided the vocals on Story Live. The setlist is like a shortened version of Story Live, which is understandable, since it's from a tour promoting an album. Great recording and amazing performances of the entire band IMO! Only 3 songs from Unforgiven, but they were well picked. Pilot of Your Soul and Fat City are excellent and both have that amazing style of Schenker's riffage.
I didn't know about those Vinnie Moore albums with Shane Gaalass, I'll check them!
So, Shane (I think also Barry) recorded with Schenker, Malmsteen, Moore and Kollman from mid 90's to 2000's... great portfolio!
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« Reply #1327 on: October 19, 2020, 11:39:11 AM »
I didnít like Unforgiven at all. Not that the songs were bad, they werenít, but I couldnít stand the vocals. Too Glenn Hughes-y for me.

Vinnie Moore is my favourite guitarist ever so looking forward to these.

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« Reply #1328 on: October 19, 2020, 02:22:26 PM »
About The Unforgiven World Tour album:
As a big fan of The Michael Schenker Story Live album, I think this one is also truly great, if not better, specially because of the singer that is better than the two (if I'm not mistaken) that divided the vocals on Story Live. The setlist is like a shortened version of Story Live, which is understandable, since it's from a tour promoting an album. Great recording and amazing performances of the entire band IMO! Only 3 songs from Unforgiven, but they were well picked. Pilot of Your Soul and Fat City are excellent and both have that amazing style of Schenker's riffage.
I didn't know about those Vinnie Moore albums with Shane Gaalass, I'll check them!
So, Shane (I think also Barry) recorded with Schenker, Malmsteen, Moore and Kollman from mid 90's to 2000's... great portfolio!

I knew the name Gaalaas was familiar to me in some way, he played on one of my fav Malmsteen records, Magnum Opus.

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Re: The UFO Discography And Listening Party Thread Now Playing: Chocolate Box
« Reply #1329 on: October 19, 2020, 02:41:17 PM »
So I listened to Chocolate Box.   I think I have to give it another listen.   I can see why I SHOULD have liked this better than Edge, but... I didn't, and I'm not sure why.  The guitars were grittier, and more...  traditional, but they lacked character, and they didn't seem to fit the vocal.  There was one point ("This Is A Life", I think) when I thought "wow, that almost sounds like Van Halen", and yet the vocal was this growly English slice of life.    And I'm a big Mogg fan, I think the only criticism I've ever given of him was the silly "on with the action!" affectation on... "On With The Action".  But here... nothing seemed to grab me.  There was no moment when I said "oh, I have to google what he's singing here!", which is what normally happens.   Also, his voice seems way more gravelly, growly.  I like it when it's a shade more reedy.

I did like some songs; Jerusalem is excellent, as is Living And Dying.   I liked Sparkling Wine (even if it was a little too much "Little Wing" in the guitar). 

I think I owe it another listen.   At first plus, this seemed to me an album looking for a direction.   (And bear in mind I've been listening to Covenant and Sharks lately, so there's that to compare it to).  But it may just be that I didn't catch it the first time.