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The UFO Discography And Listening Party Thread
« on: August 27, 2020, 08:46:34 PM »
When I pass away, and they perform a Rock And Roll autopsy on me, on my brain they'll find Dream Theater. In my heart, they'll find Iron Maiden. There's a good chance they'll find Alice Cooper on my liver.. ;D

But on my soul..well, that's where they'll find UFO.


I turned 13 in September of 1981. It was the same month I entered the 8th grade. But it was also the same month that MSG, the second album from The Michael Schenker Group was released. My local rock radio station would every now and then play On And On from the album. For some reason, I was captivated by it. As soon as I heard that airy keyboard intro, courtesy of Paul Raymond, I was paralyzed. It's a simple hard rock song, but still elegant. Paul Raymond's fluttering keyboards in the chorus was noteworthy, but the guitar/keyboard outro was so addicting. I got the cassette for Christmas that year.

The next winter, in early 1983, my travel hockey team played in Nova Scotia. We all went to the mall one day, and I bought a metal Iron Maiden and Led Zeppelin pin.  The Zep pin is notable because on my other (home) team, there was a kid whose mother was in real estate. She took over a house and with it, a large album collection. I was talking about Michael Schenker in the locker room and must've mentioned UFO at some point. This kid pipes up that he his mother had 2 UFO albums from this house. So we worked out a trade. I gave him that Led Zeppelin pin that I had bought in Canada, and he gave me the vinyls of Obsession and Strangers In The Night.

Musical life changed. By Christmas of 1983, I had gotten the entire Phenomenon -Making Contact run. I was 15.


I spent more time listening to UFO in the 80's than any other band. I had friends that liked them. I had a gf that liked them. They were basically the only thing in my car for years. But more than anything, their music resonated with me. At their core, their songs are about living your life. Sure there's adventure and mayhem. But they sparked an interest within me that I've frankly never outgrown.


I started writing this thread a couple of years ago while recovering from a hernia operation. I basically shelved it, but when I heard the news of Paul Chapman's death, I decided that now is the time. I liked Paul Chapman. He was cool.



We're going to cover a lot of ground here. We'll look at Michael Schenker's discography, and I will cover the Waysted albums of the 80's. They are some of my favorite albums, so I hope you don't mind indulging me.


Here are the links to the UFO studio discography. Some are on Spotify and some are on Youtube. This thing will have some pace to it, so I like to make the links available in the OP.


UFO 1  (1970)
Flying (1971)
Live (1971)
Phenomenon (1974)
Force It (1975)
No Heavy Petting (1976)
Lights Out (1977)
Obsession (1978)
Strangers In The Night (1979)
No Place To Run (1980)
The Wild The Willing And The Innocent (1981)
Mechanix (1982)
Making Contact (1983)
Misdemeanor (1985)
Ain't Misbehavin' (1988)
High Stakes And Dangerous Men (1992)
Lights Out In Tokyo (1992)
Walk On Water (1995)
Mogg/Way-Edge Of The World (1997)
Mogg/Way-Chocolate Box (1999)
Covenant (2000)
Sharks (2002)
You Are Here (2004)
The Monkey Puzzle (2006)
The Visitor (2009)
Seven Deadly (2012)
A Conspiracy Of Stars (2015)
The Salentino Cuts (2017)



As you will find out, UFO has had a ton of members. But there's a basic core set of players that runs throughout.

Let's meet some of the main characters in our story.




Phil Mogg



Phil Mogg was born on April 15, 1948. He is the singer for every UFO album. Phil has a distinct voice and is able to play many characters with it. He can be soulful, a story teller, a hell raiser. There's no formula on connecting with a vocalist, but I connected with Phil Mogg from day one.





Pete Way



Pete Way was born on August 7, 1951. He sadly passed away on August 14, 2020, at the age of 69.
Pete would almost revolutionize how bass playing would be performed. I think he's sneaky underrated, technically, but he was a real showman. Not content to stand by the backline, Pete took his playing to the front of the stage. You can see Pete Way in Steve Harris, Nikki Sixx, and Rick Savage. Pete was a legendary rocker, who lived the lifestyle to the fullest, however, he was loved by everybody as he was always friendly. Pete played with UFO from ints inception up through 1982's Mechanix. He rejoined for 1995's Walk On Water and stayed on through 2006's The Monkey Puzzle.





Andy Parker



Andy Parker was born on March 21, 1952. Andy was a rock for the band on and off the stage. Even in UFO's crazy days, there is not much said about Andy, other than him being a solid guy all the way around. I love his drumming, and while he will never be confused with Neal Peart, he is solid as hell. Andy played with UFO from its inception through 1983's Making Contact. He did play on the 1995 Reunion album Walk On Water, and rejoined the band for good on 2006’s The Monkey Puzzle, manning the drum stool to this day.





Michael Schenker




Michael Schenker was born in Germany on January 10, 1955. He was a mere  18 years old when he recorded Phenomenon, his first with the band. Michael would leave the band during 1978's Obsession tour, but after Strangers In The Night was recorded. He would return for the three reunion albums. Michael, to me, is my favorite guitar player, along with Gary Moore. Michael's playing touches nerves I didn't even know I had. If anyone is not real familiar with Michael Schenker, then you're in for a treat.





Paul Raymond



Paul Raymond was born on November 16, 1945. He passed away on April 13, 2019, at the age of 73, from a heart attack. Paul played rhythm guitar and keyboards. He joined UFO for 1977's Lights Out album, and left after 1980's No Place To Run. After appearing on 1985's Misdemeanor and 1995's Walk ON Water, Paul would rejoin the band for good with 2004's You Are Here.





Paul Chapman



Paul Chapman was born on June 9. 1956. He passed away on his 66th birthday on June 9, 2020. He had lost his wife and suffered a stroke in the previous year. His death was the catalyst for getting this thread done.
Paul would have brief stints with UFO in the 70's as a touring guitarist before taking over when Michael Schenker left. Paul would play on 4 albums from 1980-1983, affectionately known as the Chapman Era. There are many that actually prefer the Chapman Era to the Schenker Era.





Vinnie Moore



American guitarist Vinnie Moore was born on April 14, 1964. Vinnie had carved himself out a great solo career as a guitarist before joining UFO for 2004's You Are Here. He has remained with the band ever since.


I will start the albums tomorrow after work.




So without further ado:




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Re: The UFO Discography And Listening Party Thread
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2020, 09:49:38 PM »
Nice presentation.

Everything I've seen says that Schenker played on SitN, and while I'm no guitarist, that sure as hell sounds like him.
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2020, 10:27:11 PM »
When I pass away, and they perform a Rock And Roll autopsy on me, on my brain they'll find Dream Theater. In my heart, they'll find Iron Maiden. There's a good chance they'll find Alice Cooper on my liver.. ;D
But on my soul..well, that's where they'll find UFO.

That's some really awesome words right there Tim, well written.

UFO are one of those bands I never really got into.  I like a lot of their stuff but I'm a very casual fan.  I mainly got into them because of Vinnie Moore.  Being a shred guy I was more drawn to the later stuff cause of Vinnie and knowing him from his solo stuff.  Shenker is a great guitarist.  It's weird I don't rate him as high as he is regarded.  I listened to some MSG stuff which had some great soloing but I guess by the time I really tried to get into him more, a lot of the stuff didn't seem heavy enough for me.

I look forward to going through these albums again to get a new appreciation.  I own quite of few of their albums on cd too but couldn't tell you a whole lot about them truthfully, so still have to dig them out.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2020, 10:28:45 PM »
I'm guessing he meant 'not' and not 'but' in that statement about Schenker.

I mean, I'm also pretty sure that The Monkey Puzzle didn't come out in 2660 unless someone has a time machine.

I am just finishing up my first listening of Lights Out right now. Love To Love is playing as I type this.

I will say that Way's playing is not going unnoticed by me. Dude is a stellar player.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2020, 10:55:27 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2020, 04:08:46 AM »
Nice presentation.

Everything I've seen says that Schenker played on SitN, and while I'm no guitarist, that sure as hell sounds like him.

Correction made. Damn beers. I was torn between trying to say two things at once. He left the tour AFTER the Strangers shows were recorded. He was out of the band when it was released.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2020, 04:55:40 AM »
I've heard about this band over the years, but haven't heard a single song from them aside from Maiden's cover of Doctor Doctor. I'll be following this thread and checking out some tracks here and there :)
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2020, 07:25:47 AM »
I'm giddy about this, seriously.   That early years story could be me, but with Ritchie Blackmore instead of Schenker and UFO.   For some reason, UFO eluded me; I loved the Scorpions and I LOVED MSG (it was a treat meeting Gary Barden a couple years ago; I felt 17 again!) but for some reason I always skipped over UFO, until I picked up a Chrysalis compilation of the first five Schenker albums a couple years ago, and was BLOWN AWAY.   "Love To Love"; man (though oddly, Mechanix, with Paul Chapman, is my favorite UFO album).   

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2020, 09:33:09 AM »
I'm just going to add what is a really obvious comment for this thread:  Phil Mogg is one of the most underrated hard rock vocalists of all time.

Also, for my money, Paul Raymond took UFO from being good to great.  when I was in a band, I always wanted someone who could go back and forth between rhythm guitar and keys.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2020, 02:53:13 PM »
I'm just going to add what is a really obvious comment for this thread:  Phil Mogg is one of the most underrated hard rock vocalists of all time.

He sure is. And lyricist, and storyteller. He still sounds great too. That's amazing. This band has many miles on it, yet Phil Mogg still sounds incredible.


Also, for my money, Paul Raymond took UFO from being good to great.  when I was in a band, I always wanted someone who could go back and forth between rhythm guitar and keys.

Paul Raymond is great, and underrated as well. His work on MSG hooked me, and as the band got a little softer in the Vinnie Era, he really sounds amazing.


That's some really awesome words right there Tim, well written.

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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2020, 02:53:34 PM »
UFO were formed in 1969. Pete Way and Mick Bolton became friends as teenagers as part of the music scene in London. They put together a band, and ended up shortly hooking up with Phil Mogg, who was laying carpets by day. One thing led to another and they recruited Andy Parker to play drums. Andy used to help roadie for the band and eventually took over on drums. The would play gigs, but all continued to work day jobs to buy equipment, with Pete Way's dad signing off on a loan to buy Marshall amplifiers.  They would secure a record deal with independent Beacon Records. Andy Parker, at 17, needed his parents to co-sign the contract for him.


UFO took their name from the UFO psychadelic rock club, which was basically the home base for Pink Floyd.

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I'm going to blast this batch together. Consider it your weekend assignment.  ;D



UFO 1




UFO 1  (1970)

Released October 1970


1. Unidentified Flying Object
2. Boogie For George
3. C'mon Everybody
4. Shake It About
5. Melinda
6. Timothy
7. Follow You Home
8. Treacle People
9. Who Do You Love
10. Evil



Phil Mogg-Vocals
Mick Bolton-Guitar
Pete Way-Bass
Andy Parker-Drums


UFO 1 was recorded in the summer of 1970. Sounding quite typical of an album made during that time, it is at times accessable, and also quite primative sounding, recorded on a four track desk.
A cover of Eddie Cochran's C'mon Everybody would become a huge hit in Germany, so while UFO 1 didn't do much in England, the band would tour Germany (and other parts of Europe) as well as Japan on the strength of C'mon Everybody's popularity.

The album has some bluesy moments similar to Led Zeppelin, as well as shades of Black Sabbath and Uriah Heep. This album certainly does not sit in the echelon of those other bands' debuts but it stands on its own and has given me many happy listens. The most accessable tracks are probably Treacle People, Follow You Home, and Timothy. Evil is also a pretty cool tune.

But this album, and the next two are really for completest only. I catch myself calling Phenomenon their first album. There's really nothing on here to link to what was to come. Other than an eager young band trying to truly learn their instruments and their craft.

Here's a video of the band playing Boogie For George
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947-wxT1_CY



Flying





Flying (1971)
Released October 1971

1. Silver Bird
2. Star Storm
3. Prince Kajuku
4. The Coming Of Prince Kajuku
5. Flying



Phil Mogg-Vocals
Mick Bolton-Guitar
Pete Way-Bass
Andy Parker-Drums


UFO's second album, which would come to be known as Flying, was recorded a year later and released in the fall of 1971. Flying is caught in the middle of the blues/psychedelic movement going on. There are actually a lot of cool ideas floating around on this album, but it is quite loose and often times meandering. It's two longest tracks, Star Storm (at 18:56) and Flying (at 26:30) are both journeys to be sure. But both Silver Bird and Prince Kajuku are both pretty cool songs. Flying sets up what tries to be an awesome guitar solo near the end, but Bolton just can't quite capture it.


Here is a video of the band playing The Coming Of Prince Kajuku.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHHbQQzEDyA



Live




Live (1971)

Released December 1971


1. C'mon Everybody
2. Who Do You Love
3. Loving Cup
4. Prince Kajuku/The Coming Of Prince Kajuku
5. Boogie For George
6. Follow You Home



Phil Mogg-Vocals
Mick Bolton-Guitar
Pete Way-Bass
Andy Parker-Drums


UFO Live, or Live In Japan, was recorded in Tokyo about the same time as Flying was released, in the fall of 1971. It would be released in early 1972, though by that time, Mick Bolton would be out of the band.








Meanwhile in Germany....


A 16 year old Michael Schenker was playing in his older brother Rudolf's band Scorpions. He would record with the band on their debut album Lonesome Crow.


https://open.spotify.com/album/3QmJ3FADzfeJEeADhJIzWs?si=BwBAgKsIQCGMZH4Xf1qN1A

Released February 9, 1972


Here's the video for I'm Goin' Mad featuring a 17 y/o Michael.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nTGTCSGj30&list=PLyIIPV7O5BOf0h5Sq76L6x4SOUfqAbaG8&index=2
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I’ve never heard Boogie for George. That’s a cool tune and vibe; reminds me a bit of Deep Purple. It’s kind of weird how the first two albums from a lot of classic rock legends have a different sound then what they ended up being known for. Top of my head- UFO, Alice Cooper, Thin Lizzy, Accept, Scorpions. I’m sure there are lots more.

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I’ve never heard Boogie for George. That’s a cool tune and vibe; reminds me a bit of Deep Purple. It’s kind of weird how the first two albums from a lot of classic rock legends have a different sound then what they ended up being known for. Top of my head- UFO, Alice Cooper, Thin Lizzy, Accept, Scorpions. I’m sure there are lots more.

It's weird huh. We're going to cover so much ground, I figured I'd just drop these together for the weekend. I didn't want to get to next Wednesday and we'd still be on Flying.

If you haven't, check out that Scorps vid. Klaus :lol



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Obviously, I'm a big fan of Timothy. That, and a certain Ozzy track means my name is immortalized in song! :lol
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When I pass away, and they perform a Rock And Roll autopsy on me, on my brain they'll find Dream Theater. In my heart, they'll find Iron Maiden. There's a good chance they'll find Alice Cooper on my liver.. ;D
But on my soul..well, that's where they'll find UFO.
I thought on your soul we would find Thin Lizzy. :corn










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When I pass away, and they perform a Rock And Roll autopsy on me, on my brain they'll find Dream Theater. In my heart, they'll find Iron Maiden. There's a good chance they'll find Alice Cooper on my liver.. ;D
But on my soul..well, that's where they'll find UFO.
I thought on your soul we would find Thin Lizzy. :corn

I do love Thin Lizzy and they land in the 5 or 6 spot with Ronnie Dio.




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Obviously, I'm a big fan of Timothy. That, and a certain Ozzy track means my name is immortalized in song! :lol

Took me a minute to get the Ozzy one.

Was wondering where there was a character mentioned in an Ozzy song named Tim until it dawned on me.  :lol
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Tim, I'm so happy that you decided to do this discography thread! I remember when you first mentioned doing it, and I've been waiting patiently since then. It's so obvious how much this band means to you, and I look forward to learning more about these great musicians from you.
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Was wondering where there was a character mentioned in an Ozzy song named Tim until it dawned on me.  :lol

I was reading there was an early version called I Don’t Know Tim, but they ended up shortening it.
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Huge UFO fan here, one of the first bands I was into back in my taste forking days. The first band I saw live too, at the local university. Me and a mate found a spot on the outside of the building where you could see the stage and you could hear the band as clear as being in there. The first band I paid to see was Gary Moore.

Strangers was the album that did it for me, and I soon got Obsession at a market stall - I bought most of my early lps there.

UFO start for me when Schenker joined and there are several albums I haven’t heard so looking forward to this.

Listening to the first album now and it’s a tough listen. I’m not sure the guitar is in tune. 🙉

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Just about to spin UFO1.
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I love that riff in Boogie.

This gives me a real debut Sabbth vibe to be honest, mixed with some Hendrix.
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Love that solo section in Shake it About.  Great tempo and groove.  Love Schenker's bluesy organic playing too.  The thing sounds very organic.  Love the mixing with Shenker between speakers.  Or does Paul do some leads too?  Most of the leads are in the one speaker so not sure if Paul is on the other side?
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Wasn't too sure on Melinda in the first half but that second half is epic. 

Timothy gave me Paint it Black vibes at the start.  Energetic rocker.  Reminds me of early Rush.

Follow You Home is like Sunshine of Your Love mixed with You Really Got Me at the Start lol.
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Couple of songs at the end had more of a Beatles and Stones vibe which I wasn't crazy about but Evil was a cool closer.  Gave me that early Sabbath vibe again.

Really cool debut.
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 :rollin I should read before I listen and post.  This isn't even Schenker.  :lol  This Mick Bolton has some nice chops however.  ;D
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20 minutes into Flying and holy shit, how many drugs were these dudes doing at the time?  :lol

I see the title track is like 26 minutes.  I don't think I'm ready for that.  Star Storm is already making me hallucinate!
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But this album, and the next two are really for completest only. I catch myself calling Phenomenon their first album. There's really nothing on here to link to what was to come. Other than an eager young band trying to truly learn their instruments and their craft.

Yeah, same here. Being a fan from '74 on, none of us knew that these first three albums even existed here in the States. Even the record store guru's (as far as I know) hadn't heard of them and considered Phenomenon as the debut. I didn't hear of these albums or listen to them until 2008 or so.

I like them okay, but it's not really what I go to UFO for. I want sing-a-long, near-metal, with killer solos. These are more of a curiosity, and at times (to be honest) Mogg's singing is pretty amateurish. He gets so much better, later.
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20 minutes into Flying and holy shit, how many drugs were these dudes doing at the time?  :lol

I see the title track is like 26 minutes.  I don't think I'm ready for that.  Star Storm is already making me hallucinate!

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Glad you checked it out Kade!

But this album, and the next two are really for completest only. I catch myself calling Phenomenon their first album. There's really nothing on here to link to what was to come. Other than an eager young band trying to truly learn their instruments and their craft.

Yeah, same here. Being a fan from '74 on, none of us knew that these first three albums even existed here in the States. Even the record store guru's (as far as I know) hadn't heard of them and considered Phenomenon as the debut. I didn't hear of these albums or listen to them until 2008 or so.

I like them okay, but it's not really what I go to UFO for. I want sing-a-long, near-metal, with killer solos. These are more of a curiosity, and at times (to be honest) Mogg's singing is pretty amateurish. He gets so much better, later.

Looking forward to your participation, Gregg!

I think Andy Parker is actually really good on these first two albums.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Listened to Silver Bird and Price Kajuku off the Flying album. This is classified as Space Rock and I don’t think you can find a better description than that. I definitely think it’s good stuff but I know it’s not something I would buy or listen to on repeat. But I’m liking the songs off the first two UFO albums more than I thought I would

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Listened to Silver Bird and Price Kajuku off the Flying album. This is classified as Space Rock and I don’t think you can find a better description than that. I definitely think it’s good stuff but I know it’s not something I would buy or listen to on repeat. But I’m liking the songs off the first two UFO albums more than I thought I would

That's awesome Jason. They sounded like a lot of bands at that time.

If you really want to hear something strange, give that Scorpions album a spin. At least watch the video I posted.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Ok Tim I just watched that Scorpions video for the first time ever.......................................

Those are Bad Boys Running F&$@ing Wild!!!!!!  :metal