John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (Fall 2020)

[devieira73]

To hear them, you have to click on the left of each song on itunes.
Those snippets are really great, I'm listening to them a lot, and they last 1:30 minute each, which allow us to really have a good idea of each song. If we add that to the single, we'll have 18 minutes already known off the album, from aproximately 54 minute total running time - 1/3 of it!

[jonny108]

Normally you hover over the track number and little play button shows.  Doesn't work for me unfortunately.

[devieira73]

I went there now and it isn’t working. Unfortunately I think they removed them.

[chwik]

Yeah, they definitly removed the snippets. They worked yesterday, not anymore.

[gmillerdrake]

After several listens I really dig the song. I'm not a guitarist or musician so I can't speak to the language of what JP is doing.....but it feels like he's just 'showing off' a bit  The way he escalates each idea then transitions to the next section is cool.

And...I will say that I think this is some of the best drumming that MP has produced in years. I don't know if it's the familiarity with JP....maybe the excitement behind the whole thing....but his drums sound amazing and what he's giving us is perfect for the material. I can't wait to hear him on the rest of the album.

[hunnus2000]

JP addressing speculation about MP.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/john_petrucci_addresses_speculation_that_mike_portnoy_is_rejoining_dream_theater_stresses_what_fans_need_to_understand.html

[MoraWintersoul]

JP addressing speculation about MP.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/john_petrucci_addresses_speculation_that_mike_portnoy_is_rejoining_dream_theater_stresses_what_fans_need_to_understand.html

I really really love that JP can't really count (you'll know it when you see it)

It's good that he's aware that everyone is gonna address their reunion and project all sorts of expectations upon it. It seems like he's ready and unbothered, and good on him for being so.

[MirrorMask]

JP addressing speculation about MP.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/john_petrucci_addresses_speculation_that_mike_portnoy_is_rejoining_dream_theater_stresses_what_fans_need_to_understand.html

I really really love that JP can't really count (you'll know it when you see it)

"Three" albums made with Mangini 

He really couldn't have said it better. He's really, REALLY learnt how to be a public figure and I can't remember any occourence of reading stuff from him and thinking "Geez, John, think twice before talking or hire a social media manager". He's just learnt really well how to present himself to a vast number of people.

[Mladen]

That's one smart guy right there. You can take notes from him, basically.

[the_silent_man]

Isn't the '3 albums' thing just referring to albums they have composed with him - DT12, TA, D/T. ADTOE was entirely composed/arranged without Mangini and he laid his drums tracks to a pre programmed drum machine tracks from what I understand (?)
So that's probably what he means, even though he obviously played on 4.

[Dublagent66]

A friend of mine thinks the mix is pretty bad on the new single.    I'm not sure what he's hearing, not hearing or expects to hear.  Not sure what he's using to listen, but it sounds pretty good to me on my noise cancelling Bose headphones.   

[Setlist Scotty]

Isn't the '3 albums' thing just referring to albums they have composed with him - DT12, TA, D/T. ADTOE was entirely composed/arranged without Mangini and he laid his drums tracks to a pre programmed drum machine tracks from what I understand (?)
So that's probably what he means, even though he obviously played on 4.

Doubtful, because TA was also completely written and arranged without any input from MM - just JP and JR did that one. Probably just a mistake JP made, thinking off the top of his head.

[JiM-Xtreme]

Isn't the '3 albums' thing just referring to albums they have composed with him - DT12, TA, D/T. ADTOE was entirely composed/arranged without Mangini and he laid his drums tracks to a pre programmed drum machine tracks from what I understand (?)
So that's probably what he means, even though he obviously played on 4.

Doubtful, because TA was also completely written and arranged without any input from MM - just JP and JR did that one. Probably just a mistake JP made, thinking off the top of his head.

Agreed... silent man, you are definitely giving JP too much credit here  clearly just a silly mistake.

[kirksnosehair]

I'm not a big instrumental music fan, but Petrucci is one gifted mo-fo 


I've always liked Portnoy's drumming so I'm looking forward to this.   

[Ben_Jamin]

Isn't the '3 albums' thing just referring to albums they have composed with him - DT12, TA, D/T. ADTOE was entirely composed/arranged without Mangini and he laid his drums tracks to a pre programmed drum machine tracks from what I understand (?)
So that's probably what he means, even though he obviously played on 4.

Doubtful, because TA was also completely written and arranged without any input from MM - just JP and JR did that one. Probably just a mistake JP made, thinking off the top of his head.

But, did Petrucci program the drum parts as much as he did ADTOE or did he just program basic drum parts to give Mangini an idea of how the feel of the songs are to be?

I'm certain he worked with Mangini more so on the drums than ADTOE, as they had more time. Hence why he sees it's only 3 albums he's worked with him on.

[gzarruk]

Isn't the '3 albums' thing just referring to albums they have composed with him - DT12, TA, D/T. ADTOE was entirely composed/arranged without Mangini and he laid his drums tracks to a pre programmed drum machine tracks from what I understand (?)
So that's probably what he means, even though he obviously played on 4.

Doubtful, because TA was also completely written and arranged without any input from MM - just JP and JR did that one. Probably just a mistake JP made, thinking off the top of his head.

But, did Petrucci program the drum parts as much as he did ADTOE or did he just program basic drum parts to give Mangini an idea of how the feel of the songs are to be?

I'm certain he worked with Mangini more so on the drums than ADTOE, as they had more time. Hence why he sees it's only 3 albums he's worked with him on.

Pretty sure he just remembered 3 when he said it, no big deal about that.

[hunnus2000]

Isn't the '3 albums' thing just referring to albums they have composed with him - DT12, TA, D/T. ADTOE was entirely composed/arranged without Mangini and he laid his drums tracks to a pre programmed drum machine tracks from what I understand (?)
So that's probably what he means, even though he obviously played on 4.

Doubtful, because TA was also completely written and arranged without any input from MM - just JP and JR did that one. Probably just a mistake JP made, thinking off the top of his head.

But, did Petrucci program the drum parts as much as he did ADTOE or did he just program basic drum parts to give Mangini an idea of how the feel of the songs are to be?

I'm certain he worked with Mangini more so on the drums than ADTOE, as they had more time. Hence why he sees it's only 3 albums he's worked with him on.

Petrucci did program the drum parts as a guide for ADTOE but to what extent MM put his own stamp on the songs is unknown to me.

However, JP did the same for Terminal Velocity and handed the recording for MP to learn and add his own flair to the songs. In fact, from what I have read JP, LaRue and MP did not play together on the album, they just recorded their own parts to the parts that JP programmed and I think this includes the bass parts.

[Max Kuehnau]

Isn't the '3 albums' thing just referring to albums they have composed with him - DT12, TA, D/T. ADTOE was entirely composed/arranged without Mangini and he laid his drums tracks to a pre programmed drum machine tracks from what I understand (?)
So that's probably what he means, even though he obviously played on 4.

Doubtful, because TA was also completely written and arranged without any input from MM - just JP and JR did that one. Probably just a mistake JP made, thinking off the top of his head.

But, did Petrucci program the drum parts as much as he did ADTOE or did he just program basic drum parts to give Mangini an idea of how the feel of the songs are to be?

I'm certain he worked with Mangini more so on the drums than ADTOE, as they had more time. Hence why he sees it's only 3 albums he's worked with him on.

Petrucci did program the drum parts as a guide for ADTOE but to what extent MM put his own stamp on the songs is unknown to me.

However, JP did the same for Terminal Velocity and handed the recording for MP to learn and add his own flair to the songs. In fact, from what I have read JP, LaRue and MP did not play together on the album, they just recorded their own parts to the parts that JP programmed and I think this includes the bass parts.

which, to be fair, is complicated or impossible or possibly prohibited in these current times I guess. (all three of them being in one room and recording together I mean)

[Setlist Scotty]

Isn't the '3 albums' thing just referring to albums they have composed with him - DT12, TA, D/T. ADTOE was entirely composed/arranged without Mangini and he laid his drums tracks to a pre programmed drum machine tracks from what I understand (?)
So that's probably what he means, even though he obviously played on 4.

Doubtful, because TA was also completely written and arranged without any input from MM - just JP and JR did that one. Probably just a mistake JP made, thinking off the top of his head.

But, did Petrucci program the drum parts as much as he did ADTOE or did he just program basic drum parts to give Mangini an idea of how the feel of the songs are to be?

I'm certain he worked with Mangini more so on the drums than ADTOE, as they had more time. Hence why he sees it's only 3 albums he's worked with him on.

Petrucci did program the drum parts as a guide for ADTOE but to what extent MM put his own stamp on the songs is unknown to me.

However, JP did the same for Terminal Velocity and handed the recording for MP to learn and add his own flair to the songs. In fact, from what I have read JP, LaRue and MP did not play together on the album, they just recorded their own parts to the parts that JP programmed and I think this includes the bass parts.

which, to be fair, is complicated or impossible or possibly prohibited in these current times I guess. (all three of them being in one room and recording together I mean)

Well, if JP and MP could be in the same room together, I don't see why DL couldn't also. But given that the final guitar tracks had been laid down already using the guide bass (done by JP and Jimmy T) and programmed drums, there was no need for JP to play with MP and/or DL.

[Max Kuehnau]

ah they actually were in the same room? Ok then, I rest my case. (was hard for me to make out in the videoclip. Ah well.)

[hunnus2000]

Isn't the '3 albums' thing just referring to albums they have composed with him - DT12, TA, D/T. ADTOE was entirely composed/arranged without Mangini and he laid his drums tracks to a pre programmed drum machine tracks from what I understand (?)
So that's probably what he means, even though he obviously played on 4.

Doubtful, because TA was also completely written and arranged without any input from MM - just JP and JR did that one. Probably just a mistake JP made, thinking off the top of his head.

But, did Petrucci program the drum parts as much as he did ADTOE or did he just program basic drum parts to give Mangini an idea of how the feel of the songs are to be?

I'm certain he worked with Mangini more so on the drums than ADTOE, as they had more time. Hence why he sees it's only 3 albums he's worked with him on.

Petrucci did program the drum parts as a guide for ADTOE but to what extent MM put his own stamp on the songs is unknown to me.

However, JP did the same for Terminal Velocity and handed the recording for MP to learn and add his own flair to the songs. In fact, from what I have read JP, LaRue and MP did not play together on the album, they just recorded their own parts to the parts that JP programmed and I think this includes the bass parts.

which, to be fair, is complicated or impossible or possibly prohibited in these current times I guess. (all three of them being in one room and recording together I mean)

Well, if JP and MP could be in the same room together, I don't see why DL couldn't also. But given that the final guitar tracks had been laid down already using the guide bass (done by JP and Jimmy T) and programmed drums, there was no need for JP to play with MP and/or DL.

I guess your referring to some sort of a bubble like the NBA? Agreed it could be done and I have suggested that DT could do the same thing like they did for DOT and sequester themselves for a month while the write.

[Setlist Scotty]

ah they actually were in the same room? Ok then, I rest my case. (was hard for me to make out in the videoclip. Ah well.)

Haven't you seen this photo of them?


What's funny is (and not intentional), the pose/position of both guys very similar to one of their earliest photos together at Berklee, with MP behind the drum kit and JP just to the right of him - in the same room together, altho JM was also in the Berklee photo, but cropped out for comparison.

[hunnus2000]

ah they actually were in the same room? Ok then, I rest my case. (was hard for me to make out in the videoclip. Ah well.)

Maybe the pic was photoshopped but according to JP, they didn't play together. I dunno, maybe they jammed.

[Trav86]

The video shows them sitting together with JP playing an acoustic.

[devieira73]

ah they actually were in the same room? Ok then, I rest my case. (was hard for me to make out in the videoclip. Ah well.)

Maybe the pic was photoshopped but according to JP, they didn't play together. I dunno, maybe they jammed.

MP recorded the drums in JP studio (wich I believe is the new DT studio). They didn’t played/recorded together, so I believe this picture was taken while MP was recording his drum parts there.

[Lonk]

Another interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt4ZRU_A7_k&feature=youtu.be

EDIT: Dood interview. Liked the way he approached the MP talk again. Also, he mentioned TBOT solo as one of his DT favorites.

[devieira73]

I hope DT also takes the same approach to release the digital version of the album before the physical one, although JP hinted it won't be the case. But maybe he can change his mind about it after this experiment with his solo album.

[gzarruk]

I hope DT also takes the same approach to release the digital version of the album before the physical one, although JP hinted it won't be the case. But maybe he can change his mind about it after this experiment with his solo album.

The thing is that he's pretty much self-releasing this through his own "label", so he can try these things as he wishes. With DT, they're signed to a real label (Inside Out/Sony), with a more conventional style of releasing things. I doubt it happens for DT15.

[emtee]

Repeat spins have me enjoying the song more. JP  and MP  are really locked in tight together.

[TheLordOfTheStrings]

A friend of mine thinks the mix is pretty bad on the new single.    I'm not sure what he's hearing, not hearing or expects to hear.  Not sure what he's using to listen, but it sounds pretty good to me on my noise cancelling Bose headphones.   

Sounds like your friend thinks he's a music snob, but he doesn't know what he's talking about. The mix sounds fantastic.

[darkshade]

I like the new tune. It's got a late 90s/early 00s DT/LTE vibe to it.

[RodrigoAltaf]

My review was published today: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/album-reviews/john-petrucci-terminal-velocity/

[jadiggerdt]

Got it!

[Dublagent66]

A friend of mine thinks the mix is pretty bad on the new single.    I'm not sure what he's hearing, not hearing or expects to hear.  Not sure what he's using to listen, but it sounds pretty good to me on my noise cancelling Bose headphones.   

Sounds like your friend thinks he's a music snob, but he doesn't know what he's talking about. The mix sounds fantastic.

Yeah, he's extremely opinionated.  Sometimes to a fault.  However, he did recognize that it's a JP guitar instrumental album and that the drums and bass aren't as strong in the mix as he would like.  To each his own I guess, but I think it's pretty well balanced.

[Trav86]

I would imagine the drums and bass aren’t as strong in the mix because...it’s a GUITAR instrumental album lol.