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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #175 on: August 07, 2020, 08:59:53 PM »
Song is not that interesting, everything on Suspended Animation had more edge than this. I'm still getting the album though and pretty excited about the rest of it.
I think having Portnoy on this album is a very smart move on JP's part, from many aspect. I believe a ton of people are more interested to hear MP play with JP again than anything else, including me and I've been waiting for this album for years AND I like Mike Mangini just fine.
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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #176 on: August 07, 2020, 09:01:48 PM »

I think having Portnoy on this album is a very smart move on JP's part, from many aspect. I believe a ton of people are more interested to hear MP play with JP again than anything else,

I can get on board with this.
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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #177 on: August 07, 2020, 10:46:54 PM »
Song is not that interesting, everything on Suspended Animation had more edge than this. I'm still getting the album though and pretty excited about the rest of it.

That's me as well. I like the track, but it still hasn't really clicked with me yet, despite multiple listens. Sounds like a bunch of cool parts that don't mesh that well with each other. Still, I heard previews for the rest of the tracks on the Itunes store and they all sound really good :metal :metal :metal
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #178 on: August 08, 2020, 12:05:08 AM »

I think having Portnoy on this album is a very smart move on JP's part, from many aspect. I believe a ton of people are more interested to hear MP play with JP again than anything else,

I can get on board with this.

I listened to the song once already and MP is still using his bag of tricks. Can pretty much guarantee there'll be a fill where he hertas from the octobans all the way down to the floor tom.

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #179 on: August 08, 2020, 02:17:28 AM »
Sounds pretty cool, nice hearing JP and MP making music again.  :tup

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #180 on: August 08, 2020, 04:54:59 AM »
Previews sound great. Snake in My Boot snippet starts of sounding like full on Edward Van Halen but, by the end, has morphed into something completely different. Looking forward to this a lot, my only caveat is the length of the songs.  These are long songs for guitar instrumentals and I did find that an issue with Suspended Animation that many of the songs just went on too long and outstayed their welcome a bit.

As for Mike’s “bag of tricks”, I’m pretty sure JP knows his style and that’s why he hired him, great to hear them playing together.  I’d love to know if any other drummer gets this level of scrutiny, do you guys listen to Beatles albums and listen to see if Ringo keeps doing new things on every record?

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« Reply #181 on: August 08, 2020, 06:52:51 AM »
Well, the Ringo in Come Together is different from the Ringo in Can't Buy Me Love, so yeah.  :rollin

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #182 on: August 08, 2020, 01:20:33 PM »
As much as I hate to say it, that first song was very underwhelming. Hoping the rest is more interesting.

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« Reply #183 on: August 08, 2020, 01:46:00 PM »
As for Mike’s “bag of tricks”, I’m pretty sure JP knows his style and that’s why he hired him, great to hear them playing together.  I’d love to know if any other drummer gets this level of scrutiny, do you guys listen to Beatles albums and listen to see if Ringo keeps doing new things on every record?

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« Reply #184 on: August 08, 2020, 02:22:38 PM »
Ok, I’ll rephrase that, any other drummer who isn’t a member or former member of Dream Theater!

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #185 on: August 09, 2020, 01:52:40 PM »
Sort of sounds like MP was directed on how to play on this album. The 'usual bag of tricks' might have been a bit restricted.

http://bravewords.com/news/dream-theater-guitarist-john-petrucci-talks-working-with-mike-portnoy-on-new-solo-album-i-m-really-happy-that-he-did-it

Petrucci: "What was really cool about playing with him - and when I say playing 'with him,' it's a bit of a stretch because I had written and recorded all the music and did drum programming. Mike learned the album and played it to my tracks, so we didn't really play it 'together,' but what I like is that he made it sound like we played together. His playing is very lively and energetic and off the cuff and spirited. So even though he had to learn pre-existing songs and listen to the drum programming that me and my producer, Jimmy T. (Meslin) had done, he was still able to interpret it in his own way and I think it brought the songs to life.
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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #186 on: August 09, 2020, 02:40:58 PM »
Same approach as with ADTOE.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #187 on: August 10, 2020, 02:56:42 AM »
Same approach as with ADTOE.
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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #188 on: August 10, 2020, 07:30:36 AM »
As for Mike’s “bag of tricks”, I’m pretty sure JP knows his style and that’s why he hired him, great to hear them playing together.  I’d love to know if any other drummer gets this level of scrutiny, do you guys listen to Beatles albums and listen to see if Ringo keeps doing new things on every record?

I love this post.   Good call. 

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #189 on: August 10, 2020, 07:39:29 AM »
As for Mike’s “bag of tricks”, I’m pretty sure JP knows his style and that’s why he hired him, great to hear them playing together.  I’d love to know if any other drummer gets this level of scrutiny, do you guys listen to Beatles albums and listen to see if Ringo keeps doing new things on every record?

Your first mistake here is thinking MP and Ringo are comparable beyond playing the same instrument
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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #190 on: August 10, 2020, 08:32:53 AM »
To be fair, Ringo was EXTREMELY innovative.

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #191 on: August 10, 2020, 12:57:36 PM »
As for Mike’s “bag of tricks”, I’m pretty sure JP knows his style and that’s why he hired him, great to hear them playing together.  I’d love to know if any other drummer gets this level of scrutiny, do you guys listen to Beatles albums and listen to see if Ringo keeps doing new things on every record?

Your first mistake here is thinking MP and Ringo are comparable beyond playing the same instrument

I’m not sure that I suggested any comparison beyond them both playing the same instrument.  I don’t know The Beatles music intimately despite actually being from Liverpool, just asking the question whether people scrutinise drummers in their other favourite bands to this degree where they have to constantly come up with new fill and tricks 30+ years into their career.

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #192 on: August 11, 2020, 08:23:51 PM »
As much as I hate to say it, that first song was very underwhelming. Hoping the rest is more interesting.

I’ve changed my opinion 180 degrees after having a good listen with headphones, I like it a lot and really dig MP’s drumming.

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #193 on: August 11, 2020, 09:41:31 PM »
Just read on YouTube comments:

Music: John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy
Lyrics: John Myung
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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #194 on: August 12, 2020, 09:11:05 AM »
Just read on YouTube comments:

Music: John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy
Lyrics: John Myung
:rollin

Honestly, loved hearing them play together again but the song itself was a little ...Blah...

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #195 on: August 13, 2020, 12:38:16 PM »
"I understand where people are coming from with that. One of the concerns I had, a little bit - not musically at all - but about Mike, is I didn't want people to get the wrong idea.

"Mike Mangini has been in Dream Theater for 10 years now. How many albums did we do together already? Three? Plus two live albums. A lot of music and touring.

"So he's the drummer in Dream Theater, and I didn't want there to be any weirdness or misconception that, 'Oh, this means that Mike's gonna come back.' It's just not the case.

"I think that for me, in a selfish way, I get the best of both worlds 'cause I get to play with two of the greatest drummers in the world, in Dream Theater and with my solo stuff. And it's great for me as a guitar player - it's wonderful.

"I think it's really important for everybody's sake, for fans to understand this. I think it's important, out of respect for both drummers - for Mike Mangini and Mike Portnoy - that there's no misconstrued thing: 'Oh, this means something else.'

"This is him [Portnoy] playing on my solo album, which is a really happy moment for me.

"For me, I knew that that would kind of be part of the story - I accept that. So the best I can do is try to be as clear as I can. I don't want people to get the wrong idea.

"I don't wanna create any drama or weirdness because it's all positive. I made a solo album - finally, after 15 years - and I got my friend to play drums on it, who I haven't played with in 10 years. So that's the vibe."

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/john_petrucci_addresses_speculation_that_mike_portnoy_is_rejoining_dream_theater_stresses_what_fans_need_to_understand.html

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #196 on: August 13, 2020, 01:49:26 PM »
So MP back in DT confirmed for a double album

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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #197 on: August 13, 2020, 04:04:51 PM »
Yeah, it's gonna be SDOIT Part 2.   :lol :rollin :lol
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Re: John Petrucci - Terminal Velocity (feat. LaRue & Portnoy) - Fall 2020
« Reply #198 on: August 15, 2020, 12:00:14 AM »
Just read on YouTube comments:

Music: John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy
Lyrics: John Myung

 :lol :lol :lol

Amazing. I've heard the song once or twice now, and while I liked it, I want to hear the whole thing before I feel like I can make any judgements on this song or the member's playing. It's still very exciting that JP is FINALLY releasing a new solo album this year, though I wonder if any of those ideas might have been earmarked for a future DT album, or if he has kept his solo-album ideas separate from DT-song ideas?

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Plenty of food analogies in that one.
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Plenty of food analogies in that one.
and allusions to punk (yes, punk, of all things), which I found absurdly hilarious. Almost Pythonian in some ways. (both that allusion and the review entirely)
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From all the review, I think we can pick this as the most useful part of it:
"Particularly on “Temple of Ciradia,” easily the albums heaviest number, as the Portnoy/LaRue dynamic truly takes hold. As it does again in “Gemini”, capturing a grittier, heavy rock vibe with the main riff that fizzes past. After several brief interludes that echo early Velvet Revolver, waves of Flamenco guitar wash over you and its all-glorious good fun. Though, lest we forget its more somber moments found in the ballad “Out of the Blue” which hauntingly captures the spirit of Gary Moore. And yet, ‘Terminal Velocity’ continuously detours back to genial solos boasting a broad, pop-punk smile. Most notably in “Happy Song,” sounding as if Big Country instrumentally reimagined the Sum-41 hit “Still Waiting”."
It seems in line from what I've heard from those 1,5 minute samples from itunes. But I think Out of the Blue was more jazzy than bluesy. But, as a first review, it was kind of a missed oportunity...
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JP interview with Ola Englund

I love how excited Ola is talking with JP.
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Only on song 2 and there is an undeniable chemistry between JP and MP.  It’s the best I’ve heard MP sound in a long time, insanely good playing from them both.

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Happy Song sounds like a pop punk song in parts lol.

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Happy Song sounds like a pop punk song in parts lol.

Sum 41 meets Satriani... :lol

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Happy Song sounds like a pop punk song in parts lol.
Not just in parts, it's entirely a pop punk tune just with some shredding over the top. :lol

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