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« Reply #385 on: April 19, 2018, 02:35:34 PM »
Hey guys, I thought this was the best place to post this. There's a new album called Legend of the Seagullmen that includes Danny Carey and Brent Hinds from Mastodon. I listened to it the other day and it's interesting. Thought some of you might want to check it out.

I spaced this out. Didn't know it was out already.
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« Reply #386 on: April 26, 2018, 09:00:54 PM »
THE WAIT IS OVER!!!!!

No date yet.....and this is not a full song, heck it's really only a teaser....but THERE IS NEW MUSIC FROM TOOL!!!!!!

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/04/tool-debut-new-music-in-tour-promo-video/
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« Reply #387 on: April 26, 2018, 10:13:35 PM »
THE WAIT IS OVER!!!!!

No date yet.....and this is not a full song, heck it's really only a teaser....but THERE IS NEW MUSIC FROM TOOL!!!!!!

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/04/tool-debut-new-music-in-tour-promo-video/
I wouldn't call this new music. This song has been floating around for a few years now. They've been playing it in concert. And something tells me this won't be on the new album either.

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« Reply #388 on: April 27, 2018, 10:35:28 AM »
I hope that's not on the album, cause that sounds like them just dicking around. That doesn't sound like a song that took years to meticulously put together.
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« Reply #389 on: April 27, 2018, 10:55:04 AM »
Yup to both
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« Reply #390 on: April 27, 2018, 12:03:14 PM »
I was gonna say...pretty sure I'd heard that before.

Them releasing that as a teaser does not bode well for my non-existent expectations.  :lol

"Here is a song we've been playing live and have had in the works for a while but are now releasing as a teaser because we have nothing else" is what that says to me. Why...would you release a song you've played more than a few times and that has been in the media already for an album that has only gotten *Insert Semi Famous Person* says new Tool album is "totally radtacular". Seems, at the very least, a poor choice; at worst, speaks to their lack of faith in their own work (or lack thereof). I'd think they'd want to release snippits of a the album itself...like most bands do when a new album is in the works.

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« Reply #391 on: April 27, 2018, 12:17:57 PM »
 I guess Iím late to the party. I had not heard this song. But the other glimmer of hope I got from that article is that Maynard has actually written the lyrics and the melodies. So now itís just a matter of properly recording the demos and recording the vocals. At this point, I do sincerely believe that we will have a new Tool album within the year.
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« Reply #392 on: April 27, 2018, 12:36:08 PM »
I guess Iím late to the party. I had not heard this song. But the other glimmer of hope I got from that article is that Maynard has actually written the lyrics and the melodies. So now itís just a matter of properly recording the demos and recording the vocals. At this point, I do sincerely believe that we will have a new Tool album within the year.

They could possibly wrap up the recording before they head out for that clinic tour they are doing.
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« Reply #393 on: April 27, 2018, 03:28:32 PM »
I guess Iím late to the party. I had not heard this song. But the other glimmer of hope I got from that article is that Maynard has actually written the lyrics and the melodies. So now itís just a matter of properly recording the demos and recording the vocals. At this point, I do sincerely believe that we will have a new Tool album within the year.
The problem with that is he has said things like this before over the last 3 or 4 years...

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« Reply #394 on: April 27, 2018, 07:24:40 PM »
I canít recall anything remotely as concrete as whatís been coming out recently confirming that they are actually in the studio recording the new album. I therefore choose to be optimistic and would take Tool ďdicking aroundĒ with MJKís incredible vocals over the top of it above most bands I listen to.

The new A Perfect Circle album is not perfect but the joy of hearing MJK sing for the first time in so many years (Iíve never really tried Puscifer) makes it eminently listenable to me. Tool will be another level again.

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« Reply #395 on: May 14, 2018, 09:18:41 AM »
Every track will be at least 10 minutes?? So either there will only be 6 or 7 tracks, or itíll be a double album!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tool-members-hold-their-first-music-clinic/

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« Reply #396 on: May 14, 2018, 08:55:07 PM »
I really wish I could attend one of these clinics, and I really don't want my heart broken, I want this album to come out soon.

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« Reply #397 on: May 14, 2018, 09:01:08 PM »
Every track will be at least 10 minutes?? So either there will only be 6 or 7 tracks, or itíll be a double album!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tool-members-hold-their-first-music-clinic/
reminds me of that rumor a few years back that said every track would be over 20 minutes and it'd be double album :V

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« Reply #398 on: May 14, 2018, 09:06:10 PM »
Every track will be at least 10 minutes?? So either there will only be 6 or 7 tracks, or itíll be a double album!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tool-members-hold-their-first-music-clinic/
All I see in this article is the last line. "will arrive either later in 2018 or early next year." So basically never... ::)

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« Reply #400 on: May 17, 2018, 02:44:56 PM »
https://www.loudersound.com/news/maynard-calls-on-tool-bandmates-to-finish-new-album

This band are an absolute joke...

I saw that this morning. Any minimal amount of hope we had should vanish now
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« Reply #401 on: May 17, 2018, 07:40:29 PM »
I didnít really think it had any impact on my thinking towards release. It seemed more lighthearted. Dannyís parts are already done I thought?
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« Reply #402 on: May 17, 2018, 07:50:30 PM »
I didnít really think it had any impact on my thinking towards release. It seemed more lighthearted. Dannyís parts are already done I thought?
They've said stuff like this many times before though....

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« Reply #403 on: May 17, 2018, 08:26:03 PM »
I agree that it seemed like more of a lighthearted jab.   I know it's been frustrating, and I know they are taking too long....but I do believe that they are really where they say they are in the process.   They had to get through some stuff, and now they are through it, and they are at the next phase.   

I still think it might take another year or two (which is still longer than it should be) but I honestly believe it's coming.
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« Reply #404 on: May 17, 2018, 08:32:44 PM »
The one thing I do think is that waiting this long to release a new album and with so many false starts, it does do them a sort of disservice, and I think Maynard has hinted at this. Theyíre pushing themselves to create a masterpiece or second guessing themselves and in the end people lose interest. Theyíll always draw a crowd with their shows, itís one of the best Iíve seen, but Iím not expecting anything groundbreaking or something theyíll be remembered foróI feel like they already hit that peak awhile ago.

Or maybe theyíll release a new album and teenagers will think itís some new group and the music will speak to them and draw in a whole new fan base.
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« Reply #405 on: May 17, 2018, 10:28:50 PM »
Adam has posted a few pics from the studio on his Instagram. It does seem from them that Danny's stuff is done. Last I read somewhere, Justin was next followed by Adam and then Maynard.

He's got a pic of Danny recording drums and a pic of Danny and Joe in front of a board 'dialing in the drums'.

I'm being less pessimistic and saying it is finally progressing.

That Maynard thing absolutely looks like Maynard being Maynard and poking the bear for fun.
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« Reply #407 on: June 12, 2018, 07:58:29 PM »
See some new music as in a 10 second clip on youtube :lol

If it comes out, I look forward to listening to it.

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« Reply #408 on: June 12, 2018, 08:26:45 PM »
He said "see" new music, but he didn't say "hear" knew music. Nice try Maynard...
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« Reply #409 on: June 13, 2018, 08:59:29 PM »
I wish they stop posting things, and just release the danm thing already

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« Reply #410 on: June 26, 2018, 12:35:21 PM »
Whelp, looks like Maynard's gonna make the #MeToo list.
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« Reply #411 on: June 26, 2018, 12:48:16 PM »
Whelp, looks like Maynard's gonna make the #MeToo list.
So much for Tool.
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« Reply #412 on: June 26, 2018, 01:00:33 PM »
I don't know about her story but I was a member of APC/Tool forums in the early 00s and I actually do recall knowing or unknowing groupies occasionally posting the stories of disappointing encounters with MJK so I was not surprised to see this when I saw it, in fact it reminded me of a lot of things I'd forgotten I'd read.

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« Reply #413 on: June 28, 2018, 02:45:49 PM »
As someone that is highly skeptical of much of the #metoo movement, I do believe this one. That's because I use to know a girl that worked for a rather large venue that hosted concerts all the time. She knew I liked Tool and mentioned to me one time that Maynard was notorious for doing what this lady on twitter described. He would, at every show, pick a girl to have sex with and his entourage would make it happen. Actually, the way she told it to me was that she had personally seen several young girls being lead to a room with just maynard all at once. What happened after that, everyone assumed or guessed. My friend didn't think that much of it because she said a lot of rock stars behave like this, and their fans are fully complicit. In fact, supposedly Joan Jett use to do it with men.

 Of course, this was about 13-15 years ago.
 

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« Reply #414 on: June 28, 2018, 03:46:49 PM »
If he actually did it, then that's incredibly lame. But as with all accusations, I leave it to the police to arrest him and the court to try him, examine the evidence and then make a decision. 

I could see him doing some shit like that, but my random opinion is not enough to convict someone of a crime.
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« Reply #415 on: June 28, 2018, 03:49:06 PM »
In regards to the metoo, I can't say this would surprise me if true. Multimedia business (be it producers, actors, rockstars) has been a goddam cesspool for like over a millennium long and I am willing to bet there is truth to a lot of the metoo cases, if not most. I do think the entertainment industry is long overdue for a cultural change and in that sense I think metoo is effective in the long run. I know (beginning) actors and people involved in multimedia production in my own country and yeah... there are a lot of creeps out there. Still, I think some skepticism is not out of place either, as I have witnessed two very ugly breakups that led to false rape accusations. So yes, that does happen as well, alltough the context in those cases is different. I can't possibly know this one is true or not, so I am not going to change my perception of Tool. But in the end I hope all rapists get their punishment. 

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« Reply #416 on: June 28, 2018, 04:20:57 PM »
In fact, supposedly Joan Jett use to do it with men.



Sign me up!   I thought she was hot back in the day (and isn't exactly gross now).  Though I don't believe that story, no offense.

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« Reply #417 on: June 28, 2018, 10:58:37 PM »
I read the original article, and I want to make one thing very clear. 

I think that speaking out is a good thing...because it takes away the veil that creeps hide behind, which is ďplausible deniabilityĒ.     Once you actually speak up and say no, and educate and encourage others to speak up and say no if you find yourself in this situation, this veil of plausible deniability disappears. 

That being said, by this girls own admission, she went along with it without protesting.....Yes, she did so out of fear.   (Honestly, there are stories about JFK that play out exactly the same way....I mean, how do you say no to the POTUS???).   But still, it creates a situation where it is IMPOSSIBLE to *prove* that you didnít consent.      I understand that fear can freeze you....but thatís why it is important that we teach everyone to SPEAK UP!!   Because if you donít, we honestly donít have anything tangible to base the accusation on.     Iím not even saying it wasnít rape....Iím just saying that there is no reasonable universe in which we can PROVE itís rape unless you speak up!!!   If you speak up after the fact, it may help someone in the future....so please, donít stop speaking up.   Donít think it does nothing just because you can never prove it.   Because you can at least teach the next person to be on their guard so that maybe they will speak up.    But without saying anything in the moment....youíve got nothing.   Iím not even saying itís right....itĒs just reality.
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« Reply #418 on: June 28, 2018, 11:26:17 PM »
Isn't there a legal term and/or definition for that whole "just because you didn't explicitly scream "no" over and over doesn't mean it's not rape", specifically in regards to a military superior forcing an underling into a sexual act? I mean I'm sure it pertains to other situations, but I've heard of more than a couple stories regarding military personnel forcing those that serve them into sexual acts.

Either way, it's shitty to hear about. This whole revolution has really been insane. It's one of those things that everyone either was totally ignorant and blind to, or knew but didn't care because it wasn't out in the open. Now it is and there's this sensation that the famous are now pretty much broken into two halves: those that abuse and those that haven't (or haven't gotten caught...)

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« Reply #419 on: June 29, 2018, 05:35:13 AM »
As someone that is highly skeptical of much of the #metoo movement, I do believe this one. That's because I use to know a girl that worked for a rather large venue that hosted concerts all the time. She knew I liked Tool and mentioned to me one time that Maynard was notorious for doing what this lady on twitter described. He would, at every show, pick a girl to have sex with and his entourage would make it happen. Actually, the way she told it to me was that she had personally seen several young girls being lead to a room with just maynard all at once. What happened after that, everyone assumed or guessed. My friend didn't think that much of it because she said a lot of rock stars behave like this, and their fans are fully complicit. In fact, supposedly Joan Jett use to do it with men.

 Of course, this was about 13-15 years ago.

Rock stars having sex with groupies backstage is not unusual I wouldnít have thought. Thereís plenty of stories about that.

If this girl was raped of course, thatís totally different but Iím not sure we can use some anecdotal evidence that he used to take groupies back to his trailer and have sex with them to try and make out MJK is any worse than any other rock star. Iím sure the likes of Bon Jovi, Van Halen, GNR etc had girls lining up outside their dressing rooms for that purpose.

Will say again for clarity though that I am not in any way condoning MJK if he has raped someone, just that the behaviour your friend described is not an indication of that, just an indication that he is a typical sleazy rockstar who is not gonna turn down sex from hot girls if they are prepared to sleep with him. Iím pretty sure thatís why a lot of people want to become rockstars in the first place, to get loads of hot girls.