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« Reply #175 on: September 14, 2020, 12:54:42 AM »
I would love a six degrees or SFAM experience again.
On the other hand, a really proggy album like I&W would surely do too !

But what I don't wish for is an album full of mandatory
-Mandatory wall of sound mastering that kills dynamics and compresses everything
-Mandatory Mangini drumkit, more lively drumskins wouldn't kill, even if I don't ask for sepultura sound either
-Mandatory 1/2 ballads
-Mandatory Radio tunes
-Mandatory pushing back keyboards or bass. in a proggy way a breathing mix with all instruments is so nice
-Mandatory neo-metal/djenting... Unless it serves a purpose higher than pleasing the nowadays teenagers :D

I look like listing things worse than a Karen, but there are a lot of things I easily enjoy as soon as I hit play with DT, like epicness, virtuosity and some kind of storytelling and emotion
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« Reply #176 on: September 14, 2020, 04:22:14 AM »
Wishlists are tricky in music because it's not a mathematical equation, but it has more to do with feelings. With Distance Over Time DT did EVERYTHING I agreed with (working together, more inclusion, more direct songs, no wanking, heavy but not overboard with it), and yet I find myself coming back very rarely to the last album.

I'll just trust them to know what they're doing, as a gut feeling I'd like a bit more of variety, not an all heavy album with the mandatory ballad, I'd wish for more unusual stuff, like dunno - an opener that flies by and you don't even notice it's 10 minutes long, a weird and off field tune, a song that starts slow and has a gradual crescendo like Octavarium but doesn't need 24 minutes to do it, stuff that makes you think "wow, they never really did this kind of song before". But as I said, I'll just trust them to capitalize on the positive and fulfilling experience that recording d/t was, and do whatever they feel like doing.
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« Reply #177 on: September 14, 2020, 07:27:34 AM »
My wish list is that DT fans stop bitching and whining about what they want and what they don't want.

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« Reply #178 on: September 14, 2020, 08:20:43 AM »
My wish list is that DT fans stop bitching and whining about what they want and what they don't want.

Pssh. That's any band.

The only thing I'd want the band to do at this point. Is The Astonishing with Full Orchestra and Choir, with guest vocalists. Filmed and with some production like The Theater Equation.

The next album, I don't care what they do. D/T satisfied my Dream Theater hunger, and I'm now full and everything else after is just dessert.
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« Reply #179 on: September 14, 2020, 08:26:56 AM »
I really don't know what I want at this point. After ADTOE and DT12 I wanted them to make a more melodic and conceptually structured album. So they released TA which I didn't warm up to at all - I still rank it dead last of all their albums. Shorter songs or longer epics, melodic or heavier, concept or no concept - I guess it all depends on the end results for me.

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« Reply #180 on: September 14, 2020, 09:31:27 AM »
My wish list is that DT fans stop bitching and whining about what they want and what they don't want.

There would be no DTF then :rollin
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #181 on: September 14, 2020, 11:11:37 AM »
I’d be satisfied with another DoT only with a couple songs that are 10-15 minutes. But whatever they do I’m sure will be awesome.

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« Reply #182 on: September 14, 2020, 01:52:27 PM »
I LOVE TV but that's not surprising as I expect this kind of work from JP.

What puzzles me is that the same people who like this album are some of the same people who dislike D12 and the TA. JP and JR have been the melodic voice of DR and once MP left the band it was immediately apparent as to whom was responsible to the melody aspect of DT.
DT12 and TA are chock full of melodic moments and I can hear plenty of moments reminiscent of D12 and even Systematic Chaos.

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« Reply #183 on: September 14, 2020, 02:48:30 PM »
Perhaps a more organic approach to the vocals. . JLB has a very nice natural sounding voice, so stay away from the chorus effect.  Delay is ok because it gives a live feel to the music, but chorus changes the tone too much.
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« Reply #184 on: September 14, 2020, 03:17:24 PM »
Perhaps a more organic approach to the vocals. . JLB has a very nice natural sounding voice, so stay away from the chorus effect.  Delay is ok because it gives a live feel to the music, but chorus changes the tone too much.

Could be JLB himself who prefers the chorus.
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« Reply #185 on: September 14, 2020, 05:24:17 PM »
OK guys, so, as was posted today, DT will postpone the Australian dates into next year.
Where was this posted? The official website still shows the Australian and Japanese dates happening in November.
here: https://www.facebook.com/TheDreamTheaterWorld/posts/4358118274263480 (and on DT's Facebook as well here: https://www.facebook.com/dreamtheater/posts/10157351340577181) And yes, I know it would have been wiser of me to indicate the links right away. Sorry.
Thanks for those links, Max. Makes me wonder why they didn't post the same/similar thing for the Japanese dates....
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« Reply #186 on: September 15, 2020, 12:41:47 AM »
Wishing for people not liking wishlists not to whine on a on-topic wishlist convo :D

Maybe the difference without MP is that they do less "inspiration corner" listening to other artists CDs and get inspired, like never enough vs stockholm syndrome from muse etc...
We do get a lot of metallica vibes and some solos have hints of satriani etc...But I lack this expansion, assimilating new styles and details.

Not wishing for djent, or polyphia styled bleeps and bloops tho

I mean if we can get an album with songs as diverse as in SFAM, like home is just wow!

ADTOE was very diverse, but it's a little special since it was a transition and they probably had a lot of song material to use...idk
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« Reply #187 on: September 15, 2020, 06:46:20 AM »
I mean if we can get an album with songs as diverse as in SFAM, like home is just wow!
You mean with it's 46 and 2 inspired bass line?    ;) ;D

But yeah, I agree in general with what you're saying.
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« Reply #188 on: September 15, 2020, 09:50:48 AM »
I just hope they have fun while creating the new music. 
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« Reply #189 on: September 16, 2020, 12:48:23 AM »
I just hope they have fun while creating the new music.

This is the most important. Not being "forced" to write something to appeal to the (super demanding) audience.
Just have fun, explore new stuff, allow everyone to express their ideas, and let the music breathe.

I wouldn't mind more "epic" songs of course, and i would definitely expect the same (and better) sound quality as on DoT.

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« Reply #190 on: September 16, 2020, 07:43:54 AM »
I really don’t know where they would go from D/T. They’ve almost written every type of song you could ask from the band. I suppose I’d like to see a 30 odd minute song from them just to see how they’d approach it structure-wise and maybe another instrumental. Maybe a suite like mind beside itself? All I know is they tend to do something at least slightly different each time so I’m not expecting D/T#2. I enjoy everything they put out anyway so I’m sure whatever they write will make me happy.

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« Reply #191 on: September 17, 2020, 02:48:53 AM »
Well now that they have their own studio - they can literally take as long as they want.

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« Reply #192 on: September 17, 2020, 03:21:00 AM »
I really don’t know where they would go from D/T. They’ve almost written every type of song you could ask from the band. I suppose I’d like to see a 30 odd minute song from them just to see how they’d approach it structure-wise and maybe another instrumental. Maybe a suite like mind beside itself? All I know is they tend to do something at least slightly different each time so I’m not expecting D/T#2. I enjoy everything they put out anyway so I’m sure whatever they write will make me happy.

Yeah, we could have a debate, which couple of albums had less differences? probably Systematic Chaos > Black Clouds and Dramatic > DT12, and they're not even that similar anyway.
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« Reply #193 on: September 21, 2020, 08:32:38 PM »
-Mandatory neo-metal/djenting... Unless it serves a purpose higher than pleasing the nowadays teenagers :D

I'm pretty confident that most djent listeners are in their 20s/30s than anything else lol

I think I will echo the sentiment that I hope they just have fun. That worked out really well with DOT.
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« Reply #194 on: September 23, 2020, 09:53:00 AM »
DT are teasing big news coming soon in their social media accounts. Most likely it'll be about the new live album, but they're supposed to start working on DT15 very soon, so I'm posting this here as it might be related.

Edit: Nevermind, it's about the live album :lol
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It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #195 on: September 23, 2020, 10:29:40 AM »
DT are teasing big news coming soon in their social media accounts. Most likely it'll be about the new live album, but they're supposed to start working on DT15 very soon, so I'm posting this here as it might be related.

Edit: Nevermind, it's about the live album :lol
for now it is, but then again (remember James is at a place like the barn), they may speak about DT15 starting as well. What do we know innit. It might be both. Either way, I'll update the thread once we know a bit more.
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« Reply #196 on: September 28, 2020, 10:44:15 AM »
I'd like to see the band try something different with their sound on DT15 but I doubt that will happen.
Yes, I know The Astonishing was 'different' but the sound of the band has remained unchanged since Portnoy left, even on TA. It was a "Disney-fied/Broadway-inspired" version of what the band sounds like in the 2010s.

Every album from WDADU to ADTOE there was an evolution in the band's overall sound, in one way or another, even if sometimes the band claimed to be doing a "back to roots" thing every few albums.

With DoT, that was another attempt at "back to roots" but I don't hear it, unless back to roots is "back to ADTOE." The sound of the band remains the same 4 albums post-Portnoy, all the band did on DoT was cut the fat compositionally compared to ADTOE, but they did that on DT12, sans IT; and DoT present a more edgy production and give the drums a boost, which is a positive, but long over-due.

Say what you want, and it was controversial when it came out, but Train of Thought was something radically different, though preceded with The Glass Prison, maybe Home, and a couple of other earlier songs. The raw heaviness was genuine, unlike the "look at our well-made metal music" trend that's been going on throughout their albums since basically Systematic Chaos.

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« Reply #197 on: October 05, 2020, 12:28:00 PM »
edited to reflect newest bit of info: JP:"We're going in fresh" [...]"Between all the things I've been doing, I haven't time for writing. So yeah, we're starting from scratch. Blank page."
"So this new one is different. Since the last record, we've built a Dream Theater headquarters that houses our own studio. It's where I recorded Terminal Velocity. And it's fantastic."

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« Reply #198 on: October 05, 2020, 12:29:35 PM »
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Furthermore, Petrucci let it drop to Revolver that, within a week or two of our conversation, Dream Theater would be heading back into the studio to start work on the follow-up to Distance Over Time. As for what that record might sound like? Your guess is as good as his.
"We're going in fresh," he says. "Between all the things I've been doing, I haven't time for writing. So yeah, we're starting from scratch. Blank page."

From: https://www.revolvermag.com/music/dream-theater-new-live-album-onstage-mishaps-rehearsing-meat-shops?fbclid=IwAR1O-NW01-cJGWl6wwwq3ZYRIU9fS4Vp1Y5EeBDfW-PUFNCoRE-E2tP2nsg

And I arrived a little late, apparently, Max posted faster :lol
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #199 on: October 05, 2020, 12:31:24 PM »
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Furthermore, Petrucci let it drop to Revolver that, within a week or two of our conversation, Dream Theater would be heading back into the studio to start work on the follow-up to Distance Over Time. As for what that record might sound like? Your guess is as good as his.
"We're going in fresh," he says. "Between all the things I've been doing, I haven't time for writing. So yeah, we're starting from scratch. Blank page."

From: https://www.revolvermag.com/music/dream-theater-new-live-album-onstage-mishaps-rehearsing-meat-shops?fbclid=IwAR1O-NW01-cJGWl6wwwq3ZYRIU9fS4Vp1Y5EeBDfW-PUFNCoRE-E2tP2nsg

And I arrived a little late, apparently, Max posted faster :lol
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« Reply #200 on: October 05, 2020, 12:56:27 PM »
So they’re staying home and ordering pizza this time and breaking their home studio in. Nothing wrong with that 👍

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« Reply #201 on: October 05, 2020, 01:00:16 PM »
I know that they have their methods and their habits, but I would really love for them to take the pandemic as an opportunity to write as much as they want or write as carefully as they want.

With the touring world thrown up in the air, there's no pressure at all to deliver the album for a specific date and then start the tour on another specific date. They could write it, sit on it, write some more if touring still can't happen, refine other things, etc.... I mean, when else will they have the luxury of having "all the time in the world" to make an album? take inspiration from an album title, black clouds and silver linings, the little lining in the black hole of a goddamn cloud that is a pandemic and the lack of concerts is that they can write all the time they want. Deliver for once the best 70-80 minutes you have, not the FIRST 70-80 minutes you have which is how some albums went down.
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« Reply #202 on: October 05, 2020, 01:01:02 PM »
So they’re staying home and ordering pizza this time and breaking their home studio in. Nothing wrong with that 👍
well, John recorded Terminal Velocity in there already (and AFAIK it houses some of their storage for the tours too, but I might be wrong), so it has been in use already.
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« Reply #203 on: October 05, 2020, 01:02:35 PM »
I know that they have their methods and their habits, but I would really love for them to take the pandemic as an opportunity to write as much as they want or write as carefully as they want.

With the touring world thrown up in the air, there's no pressure at all to deliver the album for a specific date and then start the tour on another specific date. They could write it, sit on it, write some more if touring still can't happen, refine other things, etc.... I mean, when else will they have the luxury of having "all the time in the world" to make an album? take inspiration from an album title, black clouds and silver linings, the little lining in the black hole of a goddamn cloud that is a pandemic and the lack of concerts is that they can write all the time they want. Deliver for once the best 70-80 minutes you have, not the FIRST 70-80 minutes you have which is how some albums went down.
I'd not be surprised if it all were to happen exactly (or somewhat closely) as you described just now. I'd love a long, laboured album with longer pieces again.
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« Reply #204 on: October 05, 2020, 07:09:12 PM »
So they’re staying home and ordering pizza this time and breaking their home studio in. Nothing wrong with that 👍
well, John recorded Terminal Velocity in there already (and AFAIK it houses some of their storage for the tours too, but I might be wrong), so it has been in use already.

I meant breaking it in with DT 😛

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« Reply #205 on: October 07, 2020, 04:27:52 AM »
So they’re staying home and ordering pizza this time and breaking their home studio in. Nothing wrong with that 👍

As long as they use their Own Studio.

Dave Grohl made an actual film about Sound City and the Neve Desk and incorporating it into his own Studio 606...

Then the Foo Fighters never once made an album there... ???



EDIT : After a bit of looking - It turns out Echoes, Silence, Patience, Grace was recorded at 606 - but not on the Neve board. FF haven't made an album at 606 since the Sound City film.
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« Reply #206 on: October 07, 2020, 05:10:16 AM »
So they’re staying home and ordering pizza this time and breaking their home studio in. Nothing wrong with that 👍

As long as they use their Own Studio.

Dave Grohl made an actual film about Sound City and the Neve Desk and incorporating it into his own Studio 606...

Then the Foo Fighters never once made an album there... ???



EDIT : After a bit of looking - It turns out Echoes, Silence, Patience, Grace was recorded at 606 - but not on the Neve board. FF haven't made an album at 606 since the Sound City film.
ironically, Mike made the Into The Great Divide album there. (on that console too IIRC.) Back to our guys, I don't see why they wouldn't work at DTHQ.
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« Reply #207 on: October 07, 2020, 05:15:15 AM »
 ;D i know this is not the FF thread - but i'm sure Dave Grohl lies awake at night thinking of gimmicks instead of songs.

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« Reply #208 on: October 07, 2020, 05:47:51 PM »
new funny photo by Jordan directly from HQ: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGD6aV7AM31/
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« Reply #209 on: October 07, 2020, 08:07:54 PM »
new funny photo by Jordan directly from HQ: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGD6aV7AM31/

So it has begun or it's about to!!

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