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The Alien vs. Distance over Time

Started by LKap13, September 23, 2021, 10:46:05 AM

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LKap13

Do you guys think The Alien would fit stylistically in DoT? Or is it different? I'm trying to imagine whether Avfttotw is going to be DoT part 2 or not...

bosk1

I guess it fits.  But without saying too much about AVFTTOTW, to me, it definitely sounds like a logical follow-up to DOT, but does not simply sound like "DOT pt. 2."  It is different and definitely has its own identity. 

evilasiojr

I think DoT lacks songs like The Alien. The ones that came closer for me were At Wits End and S2N, in terms of level of energy and interesting twists and turns.

Not saying I prefer a song over another, but The Alien showed exactly what I missed and wished to see more of the band on DoT.

TheBarstoolWarrior

I think it would fit perfectly DoT. It has the same relentless energy as the other songs.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Architeuthis

It seems like a follow up to Pale Blue Dot.   Now I want to listen to both of those songs back to back, starting with PBD. 
The drum fill that starts off The Alien after the end of PBD could almost make it feel like one big epic song.   :metal

TheBarstoolWarrior

There are so many cool riffs in PBD. The lyrics also match the music perfectly. One of the best things they've put out.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

AVFTTOTW

Quote from: Architeuthis on September 24, 2021, 02:14:54 AM
It seems like a follow up to Pale Blue Dot.   Now I want to listen to both of those songs back to back, starting with PBD. 
The drum fill that starts off The Alien after the end of PBD could almost make it feel like one big epic song.   :metal

Yes they are strangely similar songs, in a way it's kinda like how between SFAM and Octavarium, the albums began with the sound at the end of the previous album. It's like The Alien is figuratively like this in it's relation to DOT.

Architeuthis

Yes, they have a way of flowing one album to the next quite nicely.   Btw, welcome to the forum AVFTTOTW!  :coolio

AVFTTOTW

Quote from: Architeuthis on October 20, 2021, 01:13:58 AM
Yes, they have a way of flowing one album to the next quite nicely.   Btw, welcome to the forum AVFTTOTW!  :coolio

Thanks  :metal


Also I forgot that back in the day we used to call SFAM-8VM the "meta-album".


To me Pale Blue Dot feels like BC&SL (except superior) with elements of SFAM and the selftitled, whereas The Alien feels more like Systematic Chaos (with a little 8VM).

PBD is clearly a better song to me than TA, however AVFTTOTW is IMHO an instantly more loveable album on first listen than any of the albums since ADTOE.

Lax

Quote from: AVFTTOTW on October 19, 2021, 07:17:54 PM
Yes they are strangely similar songs, in a way it's kinda like how between SFAM and Octavarium, the albums began with the sound at the end of the previous album. It's like The Alien is figuratively like this in it's relation to DOT.
But it's six degrees' the glass prison that follows SFAM :D
Indeed transition from album to album is super cool

hefdaddy42

Quote from: AVFTTOTW on October 20, 2021, 01:49:27 AM
I forgot that back in the day we used to call SFAM-8VM the "meta-album".
We still call it that.
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TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

AVFTTOTW

Quote from: Lax on October 20, 2021, 02:23:12 AM
Quote from: AVFTTOTW on October 19, 2021, 07:17:54 PM
Yes they are strangely similar songs, in a way it's kinda like how between SFAM and Octavarium, the albums began with the sound at the end of the previous album. It's like The Alien is figuratively like this in it's relation to DOT.
But it's six degrees' the glass prison that follows SFAM :D
Indeed transition from album to album is super cool

I mean between those the four albums two albums, (SFAM, SDOIT, ToT to 8VM)

wolfking


TheBarstoolWarrior

how are PBD and Alien similar? I guess the lyrics loosely pertain to the same genre (ish?) but they sound pretty different to me. The riffs, solos, and rhythms aren't similar to my ear, but maybe I've overlooked something.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Lax

Quote from: AVFTTOTW on October 20, 2021, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: Lax on October 20, 2021, 02:23:12 AM
Quote from: AVFTTOTW on October 19, 2021, 07:17:54 PM
Yes they are strangely similar songs, in a way it's kinda like how between SFAM and Octavarium, the albums began with the sound at the end of the previous album. It's like The Alien is figuratively like this in it's relation to DOT.
But it's six degrees' the glass prison that follows SFAM :D
Indeed transition from album to album is super cool

I mean between those the four albums two albums, (SFAM, SDOIT, ToT to 8VM)
I'm sorry, you're completely right then