2020 NFL Thread v. Tom Brady aging better than Mila Kunis

[KevShmev]

I'd love to see the Bill win it as well.  After four SB losses and their drought of the last quarter century, would be cool to see their fans finally get a championship.

[KevShmev]

The Colts are not a good second half team, and you have the momentum killer of the botched 4th down play and Josh Allen marching down for the score (with some help from a BAD penalty and some officiating help).

The 4th down play would have worked had Rivers not overthrown Pittman.

But I HATED the 3rd down play call.  I hate when any team runs a toss sweep when all you need is a yard, but if you know you are going for it on 4th down, FFS don't run a toss sweep on 3rd down!!! 

[black_biff_stadler]

Man...the Bills are just trying to lose this game. Giving up 82 fucking yards on 3 runs in the fourth quarter alone plus a TD where the nearest Bills DB was in Rochester. The Chargers' last two TD drives took 4:33 COMBINED.

[black_biff_stadler]

Jesus Christ, Josh Allen, what the fuck are you doing? It's bad enough taking a sack because you took too long to react but then to not throw the ball away, take an even worse sack, AND fumble?! If they lose this, I fear for a longer residual effect because teams with such a prolonged history of being snakebitten tend to get hit harder by this kind of thing.

[black_biff_stadler]

It'll be a cold day in hell before the first Bills tackler actually makes the tackle.

[black_biff_stadler]

Why would I expect the first Bill to make that 4th and 1 tackle?

[black_biff_stadler]

How many more horrible and game-changing calls are the refs gonna get away with? This is just pathetic. We saw it, the CBS commentators saw it. I'm coming pretty close to finally leaving this shitshow of tampering for good.

[El Barto]

Man, it's just hard to beat playoff football.

That was probably a catch and a fumble, but I absolutely thought the down by contact was too close to overrule the call on the field.

[El Barto]

How many more horrible and game-changing calls are the refs gonna get away with? This is just pathetic. We saw it, the CBS commentators saw it. I'm coming pretty close to finally leaving this shitshow of tampering for good.

You should. You've been convinced for years that this is WWE style scripted. I can't figure out why you still watch it.

[black_biff_stadler]

How many more horrible and game-changing calls are the refs gonna get away with? This is just pathetic. We saw it, the CBS commentators saw it. I'm coming pretty close to finally leaving this shitshow of tampering for good.

You should. You've been convinced for years that this is WWE style scripted. I can't figure out why you still watch it.

I know. But I'd hate to miss a Saints SB. Also, there wasn't a single frame showing a Bills player making contact with the Colts receiver while his knee was down. What actual empirical data are you basing this "too close to overrule" angle on?

[TheCountOfNYC]

How many more horrible and game-changing calls are the refs gonna get away with? This is just pathetic. We saw it, the CBS commentators saw it. I'm coming pretty close to finally leaving this shitshow of tampering for good.

In the playoffs the close calls just don’t get overturned, and honestly I like that better. Let the guys play. At the end of the day, the Bills defense tightened up exactly when they had to, and now they get to show what they’re made of next week hosting either Pittsburgh, Tennessee, or Baltimore. I still believe that Buffalo is the only team in the AFC with a real chance of beating the Chiefs in Kansas City, and they’re also one of two teams in the conference, along with Cleveland, that I’m pulling for to end their fandom’s years of heartbreak.

[El Barto]

How many more horrible and game-changing calls are the refs gonna get away with? This is just pathetic. We saw it, the CBS commentators saw it. I'm coming pretty close to finally leaving this shitshow of tampering for good.

You should. You've been convinced for years that this is WWE style scripted. I can't figure out why you still watch it.

I know. But I'd hate to miss a Saints SB. Also, there wasn't a single frame showing a Bills player making contact with the Colts receiver while his knee was down. What actual empirical data are you basing this "too close to overrule" angle on?

Funny you mention frames. I'd expect them to be running 120 FPS or something. That dude's hand moved 4 inches between frames on the replay.

Your analysis is backwards. It was called a catch. You don't need evidence to uphold it, you need evidence to overturn it. I didn't see enough empirical data to overturn it. And like TCoNYC says, it's playoff football. You don't end the game on something that close.

[black_biff_stadler]

How many more horrible and game-changing calls are the refs gonna get away with? This is just pathetic. We saw it, the CBS commentators saw it. I'm coming pretty close to finally leaving this shitshow of tampering for good.

In the playoffs the close calls just don’t get overturned, and honestly I like that better.

1. This is a horrible opinion. Nothing should ever directly compromise the integrity of officiating.

2. Like I asked Bart, where is any evidence of this being a close call. They replayed it at least 6 or 7 times and not once did they produce a single frame showing the Bills player touching the guy with his knee down. Also, both commentators and their former ref lackey dude all agreed. That almost never happens and it sure as shit wouldn't happen on a play with any actual grey area since the ref lackey dudes constantly side with the initial bad ref call in order to protect the shield.

[black_biff_stadler]

How many more horrible and game-changing calls are the refs gonna get away with? This is just pathetic. We saw it, the CBS commentators saw it. I'm coming pretty close to finally leaving this shitshow of tampering for good.

You should. You've been convinced for years that this is WWE style scripted. I can't figure out why you still watch it.

I know. But I'd hate to miss a Saints SB. Also, there wasn't a single frame showing a Bills player making contact with the Colts receiver while his knee was down. What actual empirical data are you basing this "too close to overrule" angle on?

Funny you mention frames. I'd expect them to be running 120 FPS or something. That dude's hand moved 4 inches between frames on the replay.

Your analysis is backwards. It was called a catch. You don't need evidence to uphold it, you need evidence to overturn it. I didn't see enough empirical data to overturn it. And like TCoNYC says, it's playoff football. You don't end the game on something that close.

There is literally zero precedence of the NFL ever using phantom evidence occurring between frames in order to make a call so you're gonna have to try harder than that.

[El Barto]

How many more horrible and game-changing calls are the refs gonna get away with? This is just pathetic. We saw it, the CBS commentators saw it. I'm coming pretty close to finally leaving this shitshow of tampering for good.

You should. You've been convinced for years that this is WWE style scripted. I can't figure out why you still watch it.

I know. But I'd hate to miss a Saints SB. Also, there wasn't a single frame showing a Bills player making contact with the Colts receiver while his knee was down. What actual empirical data are you basing this "too close to overrule" angle on?

Funny you mention frames. I'd expect them to be running 120 FPS or something. That dude's hand moved 4 inches between frames on the replay.

Your analysis is backwards. It was called a catch. You don't need evidence to uphold it, you need evidence to overturn it. I didn't see enough empirical data to overturn it. And like TCoNYC says, it's playoff football. You don't end the game on something that close.

There is literally zero precedence of the NFL ever using phantom evidence occurring between frames in order to make a call so you're gonna have to try harder than that.

No. I don't. I don't have to prove shit. You have to prove that he wasn't down by contact to overturn the call.

And seriously, dude, don't bother. It's not worth your time or energy. WWE has people getting hit by chairs and hot chicks with big fake knockers. Stick with that.

[Stadler]

How many more horrible and game-changing calls are the refs gonna get away with? This is just pathetic. We saw it, the CBS commentators saw it. I'm coming pretty close to finally leaving this shitshow of tampering for good.

You should. You've been convinced for years that this is WWE style scripted. I can't figure out why you still watch it.

I know. But I'd hate to miss a Saints SB. Also, there wasn't a single frame showing a Bills player making contact with the Colts receiver while his knee was down. What actual empirical data are you basing this "too close to overrule" angle on?

Funny you mention frames. I'd expect them to be running 120 FPS or something. That dude's hand moved 4 inches between frames on the replay.

Your analysis is backwards. It was called a catch. You don't need evidence to uphold it, you need evidence to overturn it. I didn't see enough empirical data to overturn it. And like TCoNYC says, it's playoff football. You don't end the game on something that close.

There is literally zero precedence of the NFL ever using phantom evidence occurring between frames in order to make a call so you're gonna have to try harder than that.

No. I don't. I don't have to prove shit. You have to prove that he wasn't down by contact to overturn the call.

And seriously, dude, don't bother. It's not worth your time or energy. WWE has people getting hit by chairs and hot chicks with big fake knockers. Stick with that.

Sasha Banks!   Sorry, wrong thread. 

[KevShmev]

Glad to see the Bills hung on and won despite that call near the end seemingly being very wrong, and good to see that not every team flounders when a questionable call goes against them. *cough* Saints *cough*

[TheCountOfNYC]

Glad to see the Bills hung on and won despite that call near the end seemingly being very wrong, and good to see that not every team flounders when a questionable call goes against them. *cough* Saints *cough*

That missed pass interference call is still inexcusable.

[pg1067]

The Bills game was fun.  The Rams game not so much (although the outcome was excellent).  Hoping the TB/Wash game will be a good one.

[splent]

Packers will either play the rams or the bears.

Which means they’ll play the rams.

[TheCountOfNYC]

If (when) Tampa wins tonight, they have a shot at being the first wild card team to host a playoff game since the realignment in 2002. If the Bears get past the Saints, the Bucs would host the Rams.

[Stadler]

Apologies to any LA fans (because I'd be the first to say that the only thing that matters is the win), but as a casual observer with no real stake in the game, that game was BO-RING.  The only real highlight besides the pick six was DJ Metcalf acting like a child on the sideline.

Another casual observation:  John Wolford looks like a character out of Game Of Thrones who dressed as a football player for All Hallow's Eve.   

Unrelated (well, not really) but anyone miss the days of the coaches wearing suits and ties?  Or at least sweaters and slacks?

[KevShmev]

I didn't see much of the Rams/Seahawks game, but I wasn't surprised by the result.  Seattle has been trending down for a while, and the Rams usually seem to play their best games against them (the game last month notwithstanding).

[TAC]

This kid playing QB for Washington is a fucking gamer.

[Stadler]

This kid playing QB for Washington is a fucking gamer.

I'm not all that sentimental when it comes to sports; you know me, I don't hop on a lot of bandwagons (Mahomes).   But Washington is a different organization with Ron Rivera in charge. And with this kid leaving it all on the field, it's hard not to root for them, especially over a team with guys like Antonio Brown and Mdominic Suh. 

[TAC]

Mahomes ain't a bandwagon, it's a train. You can sit next to me!

[King Postwhore]

Mahomes is not a abnormally Stads.

Kid is the real deal.

[TheCountOfNYC]

Stads I understand why you don’t want to declare Mahomes the GOAT yet as that would be ridiculous, but you can’t tell me after watching the guy ball out for three years straight no matter who he plays against that you don’t think he’s at the very least one of the best playing right now.

[TAC]

Stads I understand why you don’t want to declare Mahomes the GOAT yet as that would be ridiculous, but you can’t tell me after watching the guy ball out for three years straight no matter who he plays against that you don’t think he’s at the very least one of the best playing right now.

Don't talk to him. Just stick a needle in your eye. It'll be less painful.

[TheCountOfNYC]

Man what a gutsy performance by Trevor Heinicke. He went blow for blow with Tom Brady, and had it not been for a few bad drops by his receivers and his defense not making the stops they needed to, he might have come out with the huge upset victory. The dude has my respect.

[King Postwhore]

While I agree he played great, Tampa had even more drops. Imagine barely going over 50% and almost throwing 400 yards with 2 TD's?

Bill Belichick should be shamed.

[KevShmev]

While I agree he played great, Tampa had even more drops. Imagine barely going over 50% and almost throwing 400 yards with 2 TD's?

Bill Belichick should be shamed.

I know your feelings on this, but Brady on the Patriots in 2020 wouldn't have made a big difference.  Sure, they probably still would have won 9-10 games instead of 6, but with their lack of weapons, they weren't a playoff team this season with any QB.

[King Postwhore]

So you again point out the failure of the GM.  Oh wait...

[TheCountOfNYC]

While I agree he played great, Tampa had even more drops. Imagine barely going over 50% and almost throwing 400 yards with 2 TD's?

Bill Belichick should be shamed.

Bill just needs to adjust how he coaches and builds the team to fit in with the way the game works today. He can’t be such a hardass about things anymore, as the success of a team has less to do with the coaches than it used to, and he pushed away his two best offensive players ever. Belichick is still the greatest coach of all time, and if anyone can turn things around quickly it’s him. He just has to be willing to adjust the way he does business.

[KevShmev]

Yes, he has done a poor job in getting good skill position players.  Belichick the GM has let down Belichick the coach.  It's crazy that for all of his greatness, he is so bad at drafting wide receivers.  Kind of like Elway when it comes to drafting quarterbacks...