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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5950 on: November 17, 2020, 12:10:24 PM »
We live in a sad world where my thoughts are more important than your thoughts and I'm going to let you all know it.  I find it exhausting to be that vocal and that divisive all the time.

Whenever someone asks me who I voted for I tell them, "None of your business."   Same thing with the Coronavirus.  I don't tell anyone my feelings.  I do share here because No one acts out when you tell them these things.

I just want to worry about myself, my wife, my family and my friends.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5951 on: November 17, 2020, 12:16:01 PM »
How does anybody expect restaurants to survive the winter if they can't do this? You're going to see the entire industry collapse by December if they can't do something to bring in business.
They should be closed for business, and (this is the key part) paid to remain closed. This way they get to shop for tents and heat lamps and cleaning supplies and pay for three mask changes per day per employee and deal with increased stress, and on top of it all, have people on TV saying "going to restaurants isn't safe, you really should avoid going there". And if at the end of it all they have to close, they will just be another business that didn't survive the difficult times.

You're literally talking about floating an entire industry with magic money in a country that's deeper in debt than it has ever been before.


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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5952 on: November 17, 2020, 12:17:50 PM »
We live in a sad world where my thoughts are more important than your thoughts and I'm going to let you all know it.  I find it exhausting to be that vocal and that divisive all the time.

Whenever someone asks me who I voted for I tell them, "None of your business."   Same thing with the Coronavirus.  I don't tell anyone my feelings.  I do share here because No one acts out when you tell them these things.

I just want to worry about myself, my wife, my family and my friends.

Yup.  I am way more open here than anywhere else other than maybe in person with a few drinks shooting the shit.  I have NO desire to share my opinions on social media or comment on others. 

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« Reply #5953 on: November 17, 2020, 12:24:11 PM »
My friends know my political leanings.  I never push my agenda on anyone.  I expect that works both ways.  The internet allows for those to act poorly when expressing their believes.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5954 on: November 17, 2020, 12:25:17 PM »
I agree that the impact on the economy and national debt if we were to shut down everything is not insignificant, but shouldn't human lives be more important than that? I know it's an incredibly complicated issue, but something doesn't sit right with me that one of the prices we put on human lives now is that which we are unwilling to pay to allow restaurants to temporarily close down without them going out of business.

But I guess that's part of American culture; we like to put the onus on the individual to save money, keep their business afloat, and stay alive rather than the government, even during a global pandemic. I would like to think that protecting its citizens from an event like this as best as it can is one of the purposes of government in the first place.

why can't people be allowed to decide what is in their best interest?


It's really simple: It's for the same exact reason that most medications have warning labels that read "don't take this if you're allergic to it" or why the box of laxatives suppositories has a warning on the label that reads, "remove from package before inserting into anus" etc, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum. 

Basically, it's because everything has to be done with the assumption that the person who is going to be involved is as intelligent as a brick. 

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5955 on: November 17, 2020, 12:41:53 PM »
I agree that the impact on the economy and national debt if we were to shut down everything is not insignificant, but shouldn't human lives be more important than that? I know it's an incredibly complicated issue, but something doesn't sit right with me that one of the prices we put on human lives now is that which we are unwilling to pay to allow restaurants to temporarily close down without them going out of business.

But I guess that's part of American culture; we like to put the onus on the individual to save money, keep their business afloat, and stay alive rather than the government, even during a global pandemic. I would like to think that protecting its citizens from an event like this as best as it can is one of the purposes of government in the first place.

why can't people be allowed to decide what is in their best interest?


It's really simple: It's for the same exact reason that most medications have warning labels that read "don't take this if you're allergic to it" or why the box of laxatives suppositories has a warning on the label that reads, "remove from package before inserting into anus" etc, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum. 

Basically, it's because everything has to be done with the assumption that the person who is going to be involved is as intelligent as a brick.

After 30 years of being a pessimist, this kind of outlook on the world is really starting to make me realize what a drag it can be. Not saying you're wrong, mind, but I'm not saying it's a good mentality to have either
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5956 on: November 17, 2020, 12:52:25 PM »
I know I'm not wrong.  :biggrin:    The world is full of selfish fucking morons who don't give two shits about anything other than themselves.   Knowing this makes my life a lot less frustrating.  Basically, lower your expectations and you won't be constantly disappointed in people.  I used to expect people to treat me the same way I treat them, but I've learned over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and again and again that NO ONE reciprocates.   Ever.  And if they DO it's because they have an agenda.  Cynical?  Yep.  And I live a better life as a result because I am NEVER disappointed with anyone because I don't expect squat from anyone. 

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5957 on: November 17, 2020, 12:58:50 PM »
Yep.  We can't trust people to decide what is best for them because we can't trust people.

If we could trust them, we wouldn't need nearly as many laws on the books, nor would Preparation H need a warning not to take orally.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5958 on: November 17, 2020, 01:03:34 PM »
I know I'm not wrong.  :biggrin:    The world is full of selfish fucking morons who don't give two shits about anything other than themselves.   Knowing this makes my life a lot less frustrating.  Basically, lower your expectations and you won't be constantly disappointed in people.  I used to expect people to treat me the same way I treat them, but I've learned over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and again and again that NO ONE reciprocates.   Ever.  And if they DO it's because they have an agenda.  Cynical?  Yep.  And I live a better life as a result because I am NEVER disappointed with anyone because I don't expect squat from anyone.

Well, I don't either, but jeeze. This is just such a fuckin' Debbie Downer attitude to have for life, I'm over it. We all act like we're smarter than 99% of everyone else. To each their own  :biggrin:
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5959 on: November 17, 2020, 01:05:28 PM »
Yep.  We can't trust people to decide what is best for them because we can't trust people.

If we could trust them, we wouldn't need nearly as many laws on the books, nor would Preparation H need a warning not to take orally.

Or drinking bleach to stop Covid.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5960 on: November 17, 2020, 01:09:01 PM »
I know I'm not wrong.  :biggrin:    The world is full of selfish fucking morons who don't give two shits about anything other than themselves.   Knowing this makes my life a lot less frustrating.  Basically, lower your expectations and you won't be constantly disappointed in people.  I used to expect people to treat me the same way I treat them, but I've learned over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and again and again that NO ONE reciprocates.   Ever.  And if they DO it's because they have an agenda.  Cynical?  Yep.  And I live a better life as a result because I am NEVER disappointed with anyone because I don't expect squat from anyone.

Well, I don't either, but jeeze. This is just such a fuckin' Debbie Downer attitude to have for life, I'm over it. We all act like we're smarter than 99% of everyone else. To each their own  :biggrin:
I don't have any problem leaving to each their own if their own doesn't rub up against MY own.

And I'm only smarter than maybe 85% of everyone else, not 99%.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5961 on: November 17, 2020, 01:10:38 PM »
I am the 85%

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5962 on: November 17, 2020, 01:13:04 PM »
I'm pretty sure there isn't a single person here who isn't smarter than me.

Except the people who don't vibe with Kevin Moore, I'm smarter than all of you.





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« Reply #5963 on: November 17, 2020, 01:52:32 PM »
I can't tell you the percentage I'm smarter than, but after 36 years, I can safely say more than the average  :lol which sadly isn't even saying that much.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5964 on: November 17, 2020, 01:52:51 PM »
I know I'm not wrong.  :biggrin:    The world is full of selfish fucking morons who don't give two shits about anything other than themselves.   Knowing this makes my life a lot less frustrating.  Basically, lower your expectations and you won't be constantly disappointed in people.  I used to expect people to treat me the same way I treat them, but I've learned over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and again and again that NO ONE reciprocates.   Ever.  And if they DO it's because they have an agenda.  Cynical?  Yep.  And I live a better life as a result because I am NEVER disappointed with anyone because I don't expect squat from anyone.

Well, I don't either, but jeeze. This is just such a fuckin' Debbie Downer attitude to have for life, I'm over it. We all act like we're smarter than 99% of everyone else. To each their own  :biggrin:


Uh, just to be 100% clear, I am positively average when it comes to intelligence.  My IQ is 108 = average.  I am a trade school graduate, not a rocket scientist.  I'm not claiming to be "smarter" than anyone.   I just don't expect anything from anyone anymore because in my experience humans fucking suck.  Dogs are cool.  People,  not so much.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5965 on: November 17, 2020, 01:57:14 PM »
I know I'm not wrong.  :biggrin:    The world is full of selfish fucking morons who don't give two shits about anything other than themselves.   Knowing this makes my life a lot less frustrating.  Basically, lower your expectations and you won't be constantly disappointed in people.  I used to expect people to treat me the same way I treat them, but I've learned over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and again and again that NO ONE reciprocates.   Ever.  And if they DO it's because they have an agenda.  Cynical?  Yep.  And I live a better life as a result because I am NEVER disappointed with anyone because I don't expect squat from anyone.

Well, I don't either, but jeeze. This is just such a fuckin' Debbie Downer attitude to have for life, I'm over it. We all act like we're smarter than 99% of everyone else. To each their own  :biggrin:


Uh, just to be 100% clear, I am positively average when it comes to intelligence.  My IQ is 108 = average.  I am a trade school graduate, not a rocket scientist.  I'm not claiming to be "smarter" than anyone.   I just don't expect anything from anyone anymore because in my experience humans fucking suck.  Dogs are cool.  People,  not so much.

Ugh the clichés keep coming...  :lol

Just busting balls, bud.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5966 on: November 17, 2020, 01:57:55 PM »
As a kid I tested at a 134, and have made every effort since then to lower that number.

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« Reply #5967 on: November 17, 2020, 02:01:23 PM »
As a kid I tested at a 134, and have made every effort since then to lower that number.

I wanted to let you know you're doing one hell of a job their son.
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« Reply #5968 on: November 17, 2020, 02:05:50 PM »
I know I'm not wrong.  :biggrin:    The world is full of selfish fucking morons who don't give two shits about anything other than themselves.   Knowing this makes my life a lot less frustrating.  Basically, lower your expectations and you won't be constantly disappointed in people.  I used to expect people to treat me the same way I treat them, but I've learned over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and again and again that NO ONE reciprocates.   Ever.  And if they DO it's because they have an agenda.  Cynical?  Yep.  And I live a better life as a result because I am NEVER disappointed with anyone because I don't expect squat from anyone.

Well, I don't either, but jeeze. This is just such a fuckin' Debbie Downer attitude to have for life, I'm over it. We all act like we're smarter than 99% of everyone else. To each their own  :biggrin:


Uh, just to be 100% clear, I am positively average when it comes to intelligence.  My IQ is 108 = average.  I am a trade school graduate, not a rocket scientist.  I'm not claiming to be "smarter" than anyone.   I just don't expect anything from anyone anymore because in my experience humans fucking suck.  Dogs are cool.  People,  not so much.

Ugh the clichés keep coming...  :lol

Just busting balls, bud.


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« Reply #5969 on: November 17, 2020, 02:08:03 PM »
As a kid I tested at a 134, and have made every effort since then to lower that number.

Making the rest of the world smarter lowers that number.  ;D

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« Reply #5970 on: November 17, 2020, 02:52:47 PM »
Tom Brady gets hundreds of thousands in bail out money in July, and we have a friend who still hasn't received a nickel from the initial bailout.  His business will permanently shut down in the next month if his paperwork is not processed.

And people complain about 'socialism' when it pertains to the poor.  Oy.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5971 on: November 17, 2020, 02:57:08 PM »
As a kid I tested at a 134, and have made every effort since then to lower that number.

I wanted to let you know you're doing one hell of a job their son.

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« Reply #5972 on: November 17, 2020, 03:48:41 PM »
I scored 140 on an IQ test in college. I still think it's bullshit, but I also think I'm pretty stupid, so.  :lol
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« Reply #5973 on: November 17, 2020, 03:53:41 PM »
From what I've read here, with the civil educated discussion, I'm not really worried about the IQ of everyone here.

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« Reply #5974 on: November 17, 2020, 04:49:18 PM »
As a kid I tested at a 134, and have made every effort since then to lower that number.

I wanted to let you know you're doing one hell of a job their son.

That and my daughter are my two greatest legacies.

The look in your eyes talking about it hit me in the feels. I could see how proud you were talking about your daughter. 
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« Reply #5975 on: November 18, 2020, 06:36:30 AM »
I agree that the impact on the economy and national debt if we were to shut down everything is not insignificant, but shouldn't human lives be more important than that? I know it's an incredibly complicated issue, but something doesn't sit right with me that one of the prices we put on human lives now is that which we are unwilling to pay to allow restaurants to temporarily close down without them going out of business.

But I guess that's part of American culture; we like to put the onus on the individual to save money, keep their business afloat, and stay alive rather than the government, even during a global pandemic. I would like to think that protecting its citizens from an event like this as best as it can is one of the purposes of government in the first place.

why can't people be allowed to decide what is in their best interest?


It's really simple: It's for the same exact reason that most medications have warning labels that read "don't take this if you're allergic to it" or why the box of laxatives suppositories has a warning on the label that reads, "remove from package before inserting into anus" etc, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum. 

Basically, it's because everything has to be done with the assumption that the person who is going to be involved is as intelligent as a brick.

After 30 years of being a pessimist, this kind of outlook on the world is really starting to make me realize what a drag it can be. Not saying you're wrong, mind, but I'm not saying it's a good mentality to have either

Well, the problem is two-fold:  one, pure intelligence doesn't mean you make good personal decisions, and two, increasingly "I don't agree with you" is translating as "You are not intelligent".  As someone who MEASURES as intelligent, it's maddening to have to give basic bona fides as part of any expression of (political/social) opinion.   
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5976 on: November 18, 2020, 07:10:35 AM »
I agree that the impact on the economy and national debt if we were to shut down everything is not insignificant, but shouldn't human lives be more important than that? I know it's an incredibly complicated issue, but something doesn't sit right with me that one of the prices we put on human lives now is that which we are unwilling to pay to allow restaurants to temporarily close down without them going out of business.

But I guess that's part of American culture; we like to put the onus on the individual to save money, keep their business afloat, and stay alive rather than the government, even during a global pandemic. I would like to think that protecting its citizens from an event like this as best as it can is one of the purposes of government in the first place.

why can't people be allowed to decide what is in their best interest?


It's really simple: It's for the same exact reason that most medications have warning labels that read "don't take this if you're allergic to it" or why the box of laxatives suppositories has a warning on the label that reads, "remove from package before inserting into anus" etc, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum. 

Basically, it's because everything has to be done with the assumption that the person who is going to be involved is as intelligent as a brick.

After 30 years of being a pessimist, this kind of outlook on the world is really starting to make me realize what a drag it can be. Not saying you're wrong, mind, but I'm not saying it's a good mentality to have either

Well, the problem is two-fold:  one, pure intelligence doesn't mean you make good personal decisions, and two, increasingly "I don't agree with you" is translating as "You are not intelligent".  As someone who MEASURES as intelligent, it's maddening to have to give basic bona fides as part of any expression of (political/social) opinion.

Man, you couldn't have said it better. 100%.
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« Reply #5977 on: November 18, 2020, 07:25:30 AM »
As has been written in innumerable memes over the past several years, it is possible to disagree and take up a contrary position with someone while still respecting that person and their intelligence. Debate, discourse, and intelligent conversation should not exist in a vacuum bereft of respect.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5978 on: November 18, 2020, 08:20:36 AM »
Some potentially good news today on the immunity front:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-immunity-could-last-years-191939456.html

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While it's still unclear exactly how long immunity may last, or whether it could prevent transmission (though that is certainly plausible), the new study has eased experts' concerns of short-lived protection based on studies that pointed to declining antibodies. Antibodies, after all, are just one facet of the body's complex immune system, and the new study indicated that other factors like T cells showed only a slight decay several months out from infection, while B cells, which produce new antibodies as needed, had actually grown in number in most participants.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5979 on: November 18, 2020, 08:23:40 AM »
As has been written in innumerable memes over the past several years, it is possible to disagree and take up a contrary position with someone while still respecting that person and their intelligence. Debate, discourse, and intelligent conversation should not exist in a vacuum bereft of respect.

I posted something almost identical to this on my social media a couple months ago and someone immediately chimed in with, "Yeah except some of those people want to see me dead," and I rolled my eyes, like... no shit I'm not defending those people dude, why do you have to automatically go to the extremes like I'm not aware  :lol
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5980 on: November 18, 2020, 08:54:27 AM »
Back in the day. Stupidity and Curiousness would get you killed, and all anyone would do is shrug and say, "Well, they should've known better"  or "I told them, but they didn't believe me, and had to see for themselves."


I know I'm not wrong.  :biggrin:    The world is full of selfish fucking morons who don't give two shits about anything other than themselves.   Knowing this makes my life a lot less frustrating.  Basically, lower your expectations and you won't be constantly disappointed in people.  I used to expect people to treat me the same way I treat them, but I've learned over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and again and again that NO ONE reciprocates.   Ever.  And if they DO it's because they have an agenda.  Cynical?  Yep.  And I live a better life as a result because I am NEVER disappointed with anyone because I don't expect squat from anyone. 

You know what I learned. Expectations are the cause for a lot of people's disappointment and grief. When someone has such high expectations of things, it clouds the reality. You end up believing those expectations, while ignoring the fact some people are not capable of living up to those high expectations. Lowering expectations, or not having any at all, can help you see a persons full potential, and then you can help them reach that potential, without the cloud of expectation clouding the view.

I have realized that and accepted that fact. Life is to complicated to be worrying about others at times, It's good to worry, but why worry when you do all that you can do when they don't even bother to do anything for themselves, It's pointless and you shrug and pray for the best for them, to one day realize their errors and correct their ways.

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« Reply #5981 on: November 18, 2020, 12:52:52 PM »
Back in the day. Stupidity and Curiousness would get you killed, and all anyone would do is shrug and say, "Well, they should've known better"  or "I told them, but they didn't believe me, and had to see for themselves."


I know I'm not wrong.  :biggrin:    The world is full of selfish fucking morons who don't give two shits about anything other than themselves.   Knowing this makes my life a lot less frustrating.  Basically, lower your expectations and you won't be constantly disappointed in people.  I used to expect people to treat me the same way I treat them, but I've learned over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and again and again that NO ONE reciprocates.   Ever.  And if they DO it's because they have an agenda.  Cynical?  Yep.  And I live a better life as a result because I am NEVER disappointed with anyone because I don't expect squat from anyone. 

You know what I learned. Expectations are the cause for a lot of people's disappointment and grief.


So, so true.  I am rarely disappointed because I expect the worst from everyone.  It's kind of a sad commentary on our society that I live my life this way and experience very few surprises these days because I expect the worst from everyone.  It's not intended to reflect negatively on everyone around me.  It's intended to protect myself, to shield myself from constant disappointment, which is what my life was for a long time because I always expected people to think the way I think, which is to default to kindness and sharing.  To be more interested in giving than in receiving.  I spent the first half of my life being a taker.  Being that person that everyone crosses the street to avoid when they see them coming.  Being that person who makes the older version of me into a much more emotionally and socially cautious person.  It's too bad I can't jump in a time machine and go tell that fucking idiot 19-year-old version of myself what the real deal is, but we all play the hand we're dealt, not the hand we wish we had. 

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« Reply #5982 on: November 18, 2020, 01:15:55 PM »
I have zero interest in arguing with you, and certainly there's no intent to change your mind, but there's a wide chasm between "expecting the worst from people" and "expecting everyone to live with my level of kindness and compassion".   First, that requires a level of self-reflection and honesty that many do not have in sufficient quantities to be realistic and effective.  Second, people play up or down to the competition.   I refuse to expect the worst out of people simply because it creates an avenue for them to deliver on that.  I can gird myself in other, less self-fulfilling ways.   

I like that idea of "play the hand we're dealt, not the hand we wish we had"; there's an element to which doing that removes some of the emotion from things.   Just not taking it personally is a HUGE step in the right direction, or at least reserving that for those times when it's CLEARLY personal/emotional.    I don't expect the customer service team at Apple to suck and be horrible people.  I expect them to be professionals; but if they aren't it's not personal, it's not about me, and I have no standing to demand anything else.  There are a LOT of people who love to play the metaphorical "do you know who I AM?!?" card.   

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« Reply #5983 on: November 18, 2020, 02:21:54 PM »
No worries, I don't take it as arguing at all.  I don't know.  I guess you'd have to walk a few miles in my hush puppies to get a better sense of where I'm coming from with this and I'm probably not doing a great job of expressing it.  I'm really not a pessimistic person.  This recent election is a great example of my positive outlook.  Most of my friends on social media were freaking the fuck out about the election because they were all convinced that they were not going to like the outcome.  I remained very confident in what the outcome would be and I was positively bursting with optimism throughout the entire 2020 election cycle.  And in the end, although I was wrong about the margins, I was right about the outcome, even though the "expect the worst from everyone" philosophy was still there, I thought people with my worldview would rise to this occasion and they did, in an historic way too. 


So I don't want to leave everyone with the impression that I am this totally constantly negative person who spews nothing but anger and resentment.  Not at all.  In fact, since I gave up expecting anything good from anyone my life has improved dramatically.  To put it in the simplest terms I guess you could say I just don't give a fuck anymore.  I don't need to convince anyone that I'm right, wrong or indifferent about anything because I stopped caring what other people think.  The freedom this mindset offers is very refreshing. 


You may have noticed I steer clear of the politics forums now.  I have about as much interest in arguing about politics as I do in shoving a catheter up my urethra.  Such a colossal waste of time and effort that was.  It was one of the best things I ever did for myself. 

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« Reply #5984 on: November 18, 2020, 03:28:05 PM »
I get what you're saying, I'm also of the thought of lowering my expectations so that I'm not upset by results from people.  Typically it leads me to being more pleasantly surprised than upset.  I don't really find myself to overall be pessimistic either.  I have my moments for sure though.  I just don't think humans in the general public are anything for me to have expectations from.