Coronavirus

[ProfessorPeart]

https://www.wric.com/news/u-s-world/google-searches-for-corona-beer-virus-spike-as-coronavirus-continues-to-spread/

[cramx3]

I heard on an alternative news outlet that the number of sick in China was more like 90,000 not 2,000 like what's being reported by the government.  I don't know how much truth there is in that, I guess we'll have to wait and see how it behaves in western countries to know how bad it really is.  (thank God for a free press)

This is a little conspiracy theoryish, but there are also some saying that it came from a government run infectious diseases lab instead of from animals.

Of course there's no way to tell if any of this is true.

But, still not even close to the numbers of the flu every year.

Is this alternate source anonymous?

[Northern Lion]

I heard on an alternative news outlet that the number of sick in China was more like 90,000 not 2,000 like what's being reported by the government.  I don't know how much truth there is in that, I guess we'll have to wait and see how it behaves in western countries to know how bad it really is.  (thank God for a free press)

This is a little conspiracy theoryish, but there are also some saying that it came from a government run infectious diseases lab instead of from animals.

Of course there's no way to tell if any of this is true.

But, still not even close to the numbers of the flu every year.

Is this alternate source anonymous?

No, I was just lazy and didn't bother looking it up before I posted.  I'm a bit of a conspiracy theory nut so my sources should be taken with a grain of salt .

I've heard those theories on Glen Beck (radio/youtube), Tim Pool (youtube), and Ground Zero (late night radio show)

[King Postwhore]

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51318246

The new coronavirus has been declared a global emergency by the World Health Organization, as the outbreak continues to spread outside China.
"The main reason for this declaration is not what is happening in China but what is happening in other countries," said WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.
The concern is that it could spread to countries with weaker health systems.
The death toll now stands at 170 people in China.
The WHO said there had been 98 cases in 18 countries outside of the country, but no deaths.

[Phoenix87x]

This is getting scarier by the minute.

[MirrorMask]

It reached Italy as well. Two chinese tourists infected in Rome.

[Chino]

[Evermind]

It reached Italy as well. Two chinese tourists infected in Rome.

First two cases in Russia today, both Chinese citizens as well.

[Zydar]

First confirmed case here in Sweden now.

[jingle.boy]

I think I'd heard it's a 14-day incubation period whereby hosts are infectious yet not symptomatic?  The fact it's spreading this fast in the first 2 weeks is the most alarming part.  These confirmed cases could have been with these people for the last 2 weeks.  I think the next 2 weeks will be the most telling.  If the cases continue to rise and spread at an accelerated pace, we could be fucked. If it stays the same rate or flattens out, things should be ok?

[millahh]

I think I'd heard it's a 14-day incubation period whereby hosts are infectious yet not symptomatic?  The fact it's spreading this fast in the first 2 weeks is the most alarming part.  These confirmed cases could have been with these people for the last 2 weeks.  I think the next 2 weeks will be the most telling.  If the cases continue to rise and spread at an accelerated pace, we could be fucked. If it stays the same rate or flattens out, things should be ok?

What is mildly alarming to me relates to this a bit...given the crackdown on even discussing/acknowledging this in China, we really don't even know the trajectory this thing is taking, especially with an incubation period this long.  It's tough to have accurate inputs for a model when the State is controlling the information, and jailing anyone who says anything that doesn't jibe exactly with the official story.

[Chino]

My company has halted all flights to China and has requested any employee who's been to China within the last three weeks to call a specific number to discuss "next steps".

[cramx3]

I think I'd heard it's a 14-day incubation period whereby hosts are infectious yet not symptomatic?  The fact it's spreading this fast in the first 2 weeks is the most alarming part.  These confirmed cases could have been with these people for the last 2 weeks.  I think the next 2 weeks will be the most telling.  If the cases continue to rise and spread at an accelerated pace, we could be fucked. If it stays the same rate or flattens out, things should be ok?

What is mildly alarming to me relates to this a bit...given the crackdown on even discussing/acknowledging this in China, we really don't even know the trajectory this thing is taking, especially with an incubation period this long.  It's tough to have accurate inputs for a model when the State is controlling the information, and jailing anyone who says anything that doesn't jibe exactly with the official story.

I think this is more scary to me than the virus itself.  The death rate of this isn't so high to make me think this is going to kill so much of the population but without any truth of whats going on there, many more people are likely to be exposed and will die because the information isn't accurate to properly contain this.  The positive, everyone else seems to be taking it very seriously and containing people who could be infected is a good start because who knows who could be carrying this virus if you've recently been in China.

[Chino]

I think I'd heard it's a 14-day incubation period whereby hosts are infectious yet not symptomatic?  The fact it's spreading this fast in the first 2 weeks is the most alarming part.  These confirmed cases could have been with these people for the last 2 weeks.  I think the next 2 weeks will be the most telling.  If the cases continue to rise and spread at an accelerated pace, we could be fucked. If it stays the same rate or flattens out, things should be ok?

What is mildly alarming to me relates to this a bit...given the crackdown on even discussing/acknowledging this in China, we really don't even know the trajectory this thing is taking, especially with an incubation period this long.  It's tough to have accurate inputs for a model when the State is controlling the information, and jailing anyone who says anything that doesn't jibe exactly with the official story.

I think this is more scary to me than the virus itself.  The death rate of this isn't so high to make me think this is going to kill so much of the population but without any truth of whats going on there, many more people are likely to be exposed and will die because the information isn't accurate to properly contain this.  The positive, everyone else seems to be taking it very seriously and containing people who could be infected is a good start because who knows who could be carrying this virus if you've recently been in China.

Everyone except this guy:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

[cramx3]

Well to be fair, it must SUCK to not feel sick and have to be quarantined for 2 weeks

[The Walrus]

Well to be fair, it must SUCK to not feel sick and have to be quarantined for 2 weeks

Probably feels like a more boring version of that Tom Hanks airport movie.

[cramx3]

Well to be fair, it must SUCK to not feel sick and have to be quarantined for 2 weeks

Probably feels like a more boring version of that Tom Hanks airport movie.

 

[jingle.boy]

And here we go.  First case of being infected outside of China *by* a host who was non-symptomatic in the incubation period.

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-spread-before-symptoms.html

Shit is going to get real.  Back to the OP, I think we could be heading into Spanish flu territory.

[lonestar]

Got a case in the SF Bay Area yesterday...no real surprise with the size of the Chinese population here.

[Herrick]

First suspected case in toronto this morning.

I think this will be like SARS - very scary for a short period of time,but much ado about nothing in the long run

I must've missed that one. I think Ebola was the last one I remember the media hyping up.

[jingle.boy]

"The death toll in China climbed by 45 to 304 and the number of cases by 2,590 to 14,380, according to the National Health Commission, well above the number of those infected in in the 2002-03 outbreak of SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, which broke out in southern China and spread worldwide"

 

[Phoenix87x]

^^^very scary and in addition to that, its now been reported on the East coast as well

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/02/01/metro/massachusetts-reports-first-confirmed-case-coronavirus/

This is getting really bad

[jingle.boy]

Also, the first fatality outside of China... Vietnam.  Dude in his mid-40s.

 

[Northern Lion]

China is now flying drones through the streets spraying disinfectants.  And The Bay area in Cali now has three confirmed cases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhfBxjTLRpU

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/south-bay/second-case-of-coronavirus-in-bay-area-confirmed/2225499/

I'll admit, I'm starting to get worried even though the numbers are still way below that of the flu.

[TAC]

Are you in the Bay Area?

[Northern Lion]

Are you in the Bay Area?

No, just been reading the news.  I live in Utah.  So far we don't have any cases, but we also don't have any direct oversees flights so it may take a little longer to get there.  I volunteer as local clergy in my church and I'm beginning to think we may need to put an emergency plan in place for our congregation just in case.

[lordxizor]

The good news seems to be that the death rate seems to be fairly low, though even a few % can add up to a lot of people if is widely spread worldwide.

[lonestar]

Are you in the Bay Area?

 

[Adami]

Checked in on my friend in China. Luckily she's been on vacation but she said the town she lives in, while mostly shut down, seems to be safe for now.

[ProfessorPeart]

Does anyone have any info on where we can meet up with Mother Abigail?

[jingle.boy]

Does anyone have any info on where we can meet up with Mother Abigail?

I would've pegged most DTF'rs for more of a Flagg crew.

[v_clortho]

Does anyone have any info on where we can meet up with Mother Abigail?

Pretty sure in Boulder, CO.

[vtgrad]

Does anyone have any info on where we can meet up with Mother Abigail?

I would've pegged most DTF'rs for more of a Flagg crew.

Nah... we'd all be Mother Abigail crew all the way because we'd want to keep our vices  .  Flagg was crucifying people remember?  Anytime I play pool I think about Lloyd nailing the guy that was speed balling to the cross with Trash.

As said by others, the rapid spread and rapid confirmed-cases increase is quite alarming; kind of makes me think that there are a LOT more cases than we're being told.  The Chinese government also fired several officials yesterday (or the news report was yesterday) for their handling of the virus which is telling as well. 

[TAC]

Does anyone have any info on where we can meet up with Mother Abigail?

I would've pegged most DTF'rs for more of a Flagg crew.

While I know the Flagg reference, I don't know the Abigail one.