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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #70 on: May 02, 2020, 01:05:59 PM »
We're entering in that phase where a lot of songs are a victory or a defeat away from qualification or elimination. For example, Just A Bullet Away is definitively a bullet away from elimination  ;D
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« Reply #71 on: May 04, 2020, 09:37:35 AM »
Six out of eight songs on RTL and seven of eight on MOP have clinched.

Four AJFA songs and three Black Album songs have clinched.

Only one post-Black Album song has clinched.

Nothing from KEA has clinched or been eliminated.

No pre-Load songs have been eliminated (although Anesthesia is on the cusp).

Surprising that songs like Fight Fire with Fire, Leper Messiah and Through the Never have clinched but Dyer's Eve is probably still a couple wins away from a clinch.
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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #72 on: May 04, 2020, 09:57:09 AM »
Fight Fire with Fire kicks ass. Dyers Eve is way better than the other two you mentioned however.
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« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2020, 10:10:58 AM »
Fight Fire with Fire kicks ass. Dyers Eve is way better than the other two you mentioned however.

I wouldn't say I dislike FFWF, but it falls on the wrong side of my personal thrash line.

I'm surprised, however, that it has performed significantly better than Dyer's Eve, which is stylistically similar.  Match-ups, I guess.
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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #74 on: May 09, 2020, 11:18:19 AM »
Week 19-A - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55169.0
1.   Enter Sandman defeats -Human 13-2 
2.   Dyers Eve defeats I Disappear 13-1 
3.   ManUNkind defeats Broken, Beat & Scarred 6-4 
4.   My Apocalypse defeats Better Than You 7-3 
5.   Trapped Under Ice defeats Prince Charming 11-2 
6.   Thorn Within defeats Shoot Me Again 10-0 
7.   The Memory Remains defeats Carpe Diem Baby 9-3 
8.   Welcome Home (Sanitarium) defeats Now That We’re Dead 13-1
9.   Spit Out the Bone defeats Suicide & Redemption 11-0 
10.   Until It Sleeps defeats Poor Twisted Me 11-0   
11.   King Nothing defeats Devil’s Dance 10-1 
12.   All Nightmare Long defeats Fuel 7-6
13.   Sad But True defeats That Was Just Your Life 10-4 
14.   Disposable Heroes defeats The House That Jack Built 11-2 
15.   …And Justice for All defeats My Friend of Misery 9-5 
16.   The Four Horsemen defeats Ain’t My Bitch 10-3 
17.   Of Wolf and Man & Whiplash tied 7-7
18.   Harvester of Sorrow defeats Fixxxer 7-6 
19.   Creeping Death defeats Leper Messiah 9-4 


Week 19-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55173.0
1.   Hit the Lights defeats Escape 7-5 
2.   2 X 4 defeats Frantic 7-3
3.   Just a Bullet Away defeats Dirty Window 6-2
4.   Mama Said defeats Cure 7-2
5.   Blackened defeats Murder One 12-0 
6.   Nothing Else Matters defeats Where the Wild Things Are 10-3 
7.   The Thing That Should Not Be defeats Ronnie 10-2   
8.   St. Anger & Slither tied 5-5
9.   Phantom Lord defeats Wasting My Hate 9-2 
10.   The Unforgiven II defeats (Anesthesia) – Pulling Teeth 11-2 
11.   No Remorse defeats Atlas, Rise! 10-2
12.   Motorbreath defeats Bad Seed 10-1
13.   Damage Inc. defeats Jump in the Fire 11-1 
14.   For Whom the Bell Tolls defeats Hardwired 13-0 
15.   The Outlaw Torn defeats  The Unforgiven III 10-1 
16.   Don’t Tread on Me defeats Holier Than Thou 7-5 
17.   Fade to Black defeats Halo on Fire 12-1 
18.   Master of Puppets defeats Bleeding Me 13-0


Week 19-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55177.0
1.   The Frayed Ends of Sanity defeats All Within My Hands 13-0   
2.   Here Comes Revenge defeats The End of the Line 9-3
3.   Confusion defeats Lords of Summer 9-2 
4.   Dream No More defeats Invisible Kid 10-0
5.   No Leaf Clover defeats Attitude 8-2
6.   Am I Savage? defeats My World 10-0 
7.   Orion defeats The Unnamed Feeling 13-0 
8.   The Call of Ktulu defeats Metal Militia 12-2 
9.   To Live Is to Die defeats Purify 13-0 
10.   Low Man’s Lyric defeats Cyanide 8-4
11.   Some Kind of Monster defeats Sweet Amber 6-3 
12.   The Day That Never Comes defeats The Judas Kiss 8-3 
13.   Eye of the Beholder defeats Hero of the Day 8-6   
14.   Battery defeats Moth Into Flame 13-1
15.   The Shortest Straw defeats The Struggle Within 11-2
16.   Through the Never defeats Seek & Destroy 9-5 
17.   Fight Fire With Fire defeats The God That Failed 10-4 
18.   One defeats Wherever I May Roam 10-4

Week 19 Match of the Week - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55182.0
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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2020, 11:18:42 AM »
Standings after Week 19

Top 64 songs at season’s end qualify for the Championship Tournament.
* = Clinched Tournament Berth
X = Eliminated from Tournament contention.

1.000 Winning %. Songs 1-4
*Blackened (19-0)
*Creeping Death (19-0)
*Master of Puppets (19-0)
*One (19-0)

.947 Winning %. Songs 5-8
*…And Justice for All (18-1)
*Damage Inc. (18-1)
*For Whom the Bell Tolls (18-1) 
*Orion (18-1)

.921 Winning %. Songs 9-11
*Disposable Heroes (17-1-1)
*Fade to Black (17-1-1)
*Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (17-1-1)

.895 Winning %. Songs 12-14
*Battery (17-2)
*Enter Sandman (17-2)
*The Shortest Straw (16-1-2)

.868 Winning %. Song 15
*Ride the Lightning (16-2-1)

.842 Winning %. Songs 16-20
*The Call of Ktulu (16-3)
*Fight Fire with Fire (16-3)
*Spit Out the Bone (16-3)
*Through The Never (16-3)
*Wherever I May Roam (16-3)

.816 Winning %. Songs 21-22
*Leper Messiah (15-3-1)
*Trapped Under Ice (15-3-1)
 
.789 Winning %. Songs 23-24
*The Frayed Ends of Sanity (15-4)
*Harvester of Sorrow (15-4)

.763 Winning %. Songs 25-31
*Bleeding Me (14-4-1)
*The God That Failed (14-4-1)
*To Live is to Die (14-4-1) 
*The Thing That Should Not Be (14-4-1)
*The Unforgiven (14-4-1)
*The Unforgiven II (14-4-1)
*Until It Sleeps (14-4-1)

.737 Winning %. Songs 32-34
Dyers Eve (14-5)
The Four Horsemen (14-5)
Sad But True (14-5)

.711 Winning %. Songs 35-37
Eye of the Beholder (13-5-1)
Nothing Else Matters (13-5-1)
Of Wolf and Man (13-5-1)

.684 Winning %. Song 38
That Was Just Your Life (12-5-2)

.632 Winning %. Songs 39-44
Don’t Tread on Me (12-7)
Halo on Fire (12-7)
Hero of the Day (12-7)
My Friend of Misery (12-7)
The Outlaw Torn (12-7)
Whiplash (11-6-2)

.579 Winning %. Songs 45-48
All Nightmare Long (11-8)
Escape (11-8)
Fixxxer (11-8)
The Memory Remains (11-8)

.553 Winning %. Songs 49-54
Am I Savage? (10-8-1)
The Day That Never Comes (10-8-1)
Holier Than Thou (10-8-1)
Low Man’s Lyric (9-7-3)
Moth Into Flame (10-8-1)
Seek & Destroy (10-8-1)

.526 Winning %. Songs 55-56
The End of the Line (10-9)
King Nothing (10-9)

.500 Winning %. Songs 57-59
Dream No More (9-9-1)
Fuel (9-9-1)
Hit the Lights (9-9-1)

.474 Winning %. Songs 60-62
Ain’t My Bitch (9-10)
Cyanide (9-10)
The Struggle Within (9-10)

.447 Winning %. Songs 63-64
Atlas, Rise! (8-10-1)
The House That Jack Built (8-10-1)

.421 Winning %. Songs 65-66
Mama Said (8-11)
No Remorse (8-11)

.395 Winning %. Songs 67-68
Motorbreath (7-11-1)
The Unforgiven III (7-11-1)

.368 Winning %. Songs 69-71
Confusion (7-12)
Jump in the Fire (7-12)
No Leaf Clover (6-11-2)

.342 Winning %. Songs 72-74
Metal Militia (6-12-1)
My Apocalypse (6-12-1)
Now That We’re Dead (6-12-1)

.316 Winning %. Songs 75-76
Broken, Beat & Scarred (6-13)
Phantom Lord (6-13)

.289 Winning %. Songs 77-78
Here Comes Revenge (5-13-1)
The Unnamed Feeling (5-13-1)   

.263 Winning %. Songs 79-83
2 X 4 (5-14)
Carpe Diem Baby (5-14)
Devil’s Dance (5-14)
The Judas Kiss (5-14)
Thorn Within (5-14)

.237 Winning %. Songs 84-86
Frantic (4-14-1)
ManUNkind (4-14-1)
Where the Wild Things Are (4-14-1)

.184 Winning %. Songs 87-90
I Disappear (3-15-1)
Hardwired (3-15-1)
Prince Charming (3-15-1)
Slither (3-15-1) 

.158 Winning %. Songs 91-95
Bad Seed (3-16)
Better Than You (3-16)
-Human (3-16)
Lords of Summer (3-16)
Wasting My Hate (3-16)

.132 Winning %. Songs 96-99
Just a Bullet Away (2-16-1)
Poor Twisted Me (2-16-1)
Ronnie (2-16-1)
St. Anger (2-16-1)

.105 Winning %. Songs 100-103
X All Within My Hands (2-17)
X Attitude (2-17)
X Shoot Me Again (2-17)
X Some Kind of Monster (2-17)

.079 Winning %. Song 104
X (Anesthesia) – Pulling Teeth (1-17-1)

.053 Winning %. Songs 105-108
X Dirty Window (1-18)
X Invisible Kid (1-18)
X Murder One (1-18)
X Suicide & Redemption (1-18)

.000 Winning %. Songs 109-112
X Cure (0-19)
X My World (0-19)
X Purify (0-19)
X Sweet Amber (0-19)

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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2020, 12:18:41 PM »
Wow, we got a bunch of new qualified songs.

As of now, the cutoff after the 64th position is clean. Hoping Motorbreath will pull trhough, and Metal Militia after that.
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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2020, 06:51:39 PM »
Wow, we got a bunch of new qualified songs.

As of now, the cutoff after the 64th position is clean. Hoping Motorbreath will pull trhough, and Metal Militia after that.

That’d be nice, couple killer tracks.

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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #78 on: May 16, 2020, 08:52:36 AM »
Week 20-A - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55203.0
1.   Through the Never defeats Invisible Kid 15-0
2.   Nothing Else Matters defeats 2 X 4 13-2
3.   ManUNkind defeats Ronnie 9-1
4.   Dyers Eve defeats Carpe Diem Baby 13-1 
5.   Metal Militia defeats Shoot Me Again 11-0
6.   Devil’s Dance defeats Cure 8-1 
7.   Low Man’s Lyric defeats Some Kind of Monster 10-1 
8.   Motorbreath defeats Purify 13-0 
9.   Trapped Under Ice defeats Here Comes Revenge 12-2 
10.   The End of the Line defeats Bad Seed 9-2 
11.   Where the Wild Things Are defeats Frantic 8-4
12.   Halo on Fire defeats The Unnamed Feeling 10-2 
13.   The Struggle Within & Jump in the Fire tied 7-7
14.   Phantom Lord defeats No Leaf Clover 7-6 
15.   Holier Than Thou defeats That Was Just Your Life 10-5 
16.   Whiplash defeats Fuel 10-4 
17.   Of Wolf and Man defeats All Nightmare Long 11-4   
18.   Fixxxer & Atlas, Rise! tied 6-6
19.   Disposable Heroes defeats Bleeding Me 11-3

Week 20-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55208.0
1.   Now That We’re Dead defeats Ain’t My Bitch 6-5
2.   (Anesthesia) – Pulling Teeth defeats Murder One 7-6
3.   Just a Bullet Away defeats Suicide & Redemption 5-3 
4.   Lords of Summer defeats Slither 5-4 
5.   No Remorse defeats Poor Twisted Me 10-1
6.   To Live is to Die defeats -Human 10-1
7.   For Whom the Bell Tolls defeats Attitude 13-0   
8.   Escape defeats Better Than You 11-1 
9.   Damage Inc. defeats Confusion 11-1 
10.   Until It Sleeps defeats Hardwired 9-1 
11.   The Unforgiven II defeats Hit the Lights 9-4 
12.   Spit Out the Bone defeats Mama Said 8-3 
13.   The Thing That Should Not Be & The House That Jack Built tied 6-6
14.   Fade to Black defeats Am I Savage? 11-2
15.   The Call of Ktulu defeats Dream No More 11-2 
16.   Orion defeats My Friend of Misery 9-4 
17.   Master of Puppets defeats Sad But True 12-1 
18.   Wherever I May Roam defeats The Frayed Ends of Sanity 8-5


Week 20-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55214.0
1.   One defeats All Within My Hands 13-1 
2.   Ride the Lightning defeats My Apocalypse 12-0 
3.   Harvester of Sorrow defeats Wasting My Hate 11-2   
4.   Moth Into Flame defeats Prince Charming 9-1 
5.   The Outlaw Torn defeats My World 10-1
6.   King Nothing defeats Sweet Amber 11-0
7.   Cyanide defeats Dirty Window 11-0
8.   Don’t Tread on Me defeats Broken, Beat & Scarred 11-2
9.   Thorn Within defeats I Disappear 7-4 
10.   The Judas Kiss defeats St. Anger 9-3 
11.   The God That Failed defeats The Unforgiven III 12-2 
12.   Seek & Destroy defeats The Memory Remains 8-6 
13.   Blackened defeats Eye of the Beholder 12-1 
14.   Creeping Death defeats The Day That Never Comes 11-3
15.   The Unforgiven defeats Hero of the Day 10-4 
16.   Leper Messiah defeats The Shortest Straw 9-4 
17.   Welcome Home (Sanitarium) defeats The Four Horsemen 12-2 
18.   …And Justice For All defeats Fight Fire with Fire 8-5 


Week 20 Match of the Week https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55217.0
Battery defeats Enter Sandman 15-6

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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #79 on: May 16, 2020, 08:53:14 AM »
Standings after Week 20

Top 64 songs at season’s end qualify for the Championship Tournament.
* = Clinched Tournament Berth
X = Eliminated from Tournament contention.

1.000 Winning %. Songs 1-4
*Blackened (20-0)
*Creeping Death (20-0)
*Master of Puppets (20-0)
*One (20-0)

.950 Winning %. Songs 5-8
*…And Justice for All (19-1)
*Damage Inc. (19-1)
*For Whom the Bell Tolls (19-1) 
*Orion (19-1)

.925 Winning %. Songs 9-11
*Disposable Heroes (18-1-1)
*Fade to Black (18-1-1)
*Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (18-1-1)

.900 Winning %. Song 12
*Battery (18-2)

.875 Winning %. Song 13
*Ride the Lightning (17-2-1)

.850 Winning %. Songs 14-19
*The Call of Ktulu (17-3)
*Enter Sandman (17-3)
*The Shortest Straw (16-2-2)
*Spit Out the Bone (17-3)
*Through The Never (17-3)
*Wherever I May Roam (17-3)

.825 Winning %. Songs 20-21
*Leper Messiah (16-3-1)
*Trapped Under Ice (16-3-1)

.800 Winning %. Songs 22-23
*Fight Fire with Fire (16-4)
*Harvester of Sorrow (16-4)

.775 Winning %. Songs 24-28
*The God That Failed (15-4-1)
*To Live is to Die (15-4-1) 
*The Unforgiven (15-4-1)
*The Unforgiven II (15-4-1)
*Until It Sleeps (15-4-1)

.750 Winning %. Songs 29-30
*The Frayed Ends of Sanity (15-5)
*The Thing That Should Not Be (14-4-2)

.750 Winning %. Song 31
*Dyers Eve (15-5)

.725 Winning %. Songs 32-34
*Bleeding Me (14-5-1)
*Nothing Else Matters (14-5-1)
*Of Wolf and Man (14-5-1)

.700 Winning %. Songs 35-36
*The Four Horsemen (14-6)
*Sad But True (14-6)

.675 Winning %. Song 37
Eye of the Beholder (13-6-1)

.650 Winning %. Songs 38-42
Don’t Tread on Me (13-7)
Halo on Fire (13-7)
The Outlaw Torn (13-7)
That Was Just Your Life (12-6-2)
Whiplash (12-6-2)

.600 Winning %. Songs 43-45
Escape (12-8)
Hero of the Day (12-8)
My Friend of Misery (12-8)

.575 Winning %. Songs 46-47
Fixxxer (11-8-1)
Low Man’s Lyric (10-7-3)

.550 Winning %. Songs 48-51
All Nightmare Long (11-9)
The End of the Line (11-9)
King Nothing (11-9)
The Memory Remains (11-9)

.575 Winning %. Songs 52-54
Holier Than Thou (11-8-1)
Moth Into Flame (11-8-1)
Seek & Destroy (11-8-1)

.525 Winning %. Songs 55-56
Am I Savage? (10-9-1)
The Day That Never Comes (10-9-1)

.500 Winning %. Song 57
Cyanide (10-10)

.475 Winning %. Songs 58-61
Dream No More (9-10-1)
Fuel (9-10-1)
Hit the Lights (9-10-1)
The Struggle Within (9-10-1)

.450 Winning %. Songs 62-65
Ain’t My Bitch (9-11)
Atlas, Rise! (8-10-2)
The House That Jack Built (8-10-2)
No Remorse (9-11)

.425 Winning %. Song 66
Motorbreath (8-11-1)

.400 Winning %. Song 67
Mama Said (8-12)

.375 Winning %. Songs 68-71
Jump in the Fire (7-12-1)
Metal Militia (7-12-1)
Now That We’re Dead (7-12-1)
The Unforgiven III (7-12-1)

.350 Winning %. Songs 72-74
Confusion (7-13)
No Leaf Clover (6-12-2)
Phantom Lord (7-13)

.325 Winning %. Song 75
My Apocalypse (6-13-1)

.300 Winning %. Songs 76-79
Broken, Beat & Scarred (6-14)
Devil’s Dance (6-14)
The Judas Kiss (6-14)
Thorn Within (6-14)

.275 Winning %. Songs 80-83
Here Comes Revenge (5-14-1)
ManUNkind (5-14-1)
The Unnamed Feeling (5-14-1)   
Where the Wild Things Are (5-14-1)

.250 Winning %. Songs 84-85
2 X 4 (5-15)
Carpe Diem Baby (5-15)

.225 Winning %. Song 86
Frantic (4-15-1)

.200 Winning %. Song 87
Lords of Summer (4-16)

.175 Winning %. Songs 88-92
X Hardwired (3-16-1)
X I Disappear (3-16-1)
X Just a Bullet Away (3-16-1)
X Prince Charming (3-16-1)
X Slither (3-16-1) 

.150 Winning %. Songs 93-96
X Bad Seed (3-17)
X Better Than You (3-17)
X -Human (3-17)
X Wasting My Hate (3-17)

.125 Winning %. Songs 97-100
X (Anesthesia) – Pulling Teeth (2-17-1)
X Poor Twisted Me (2-17-1)
X Ronnie (2-17-1)
X St. Anger (2-17-1)

.100 Winning %. Songs 101-104
X All Within My Hands (2-18)
X Attitude (2-18)
X Shoot Me Again (2-18)
X Some Kind of Monster (2-18)

.050 Winning %. Songs 105-108
X Dirty Window (1-19)
X Invisible Kid (1-19)
X Murder One (1-19)
X Suicide & Redemption (1-19)

.000 Winning %. Songs 109-112
X Cure (0-20)
X My World (0-20)
X Purify (0-20)
X Sweet Amber (0-20)

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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #80 on: May 16, 2020, 09:08:33 AM »
The top 4 resists. Will they finish the season unchallenged? Master is clearly the prime suspect for final victory, so it's no wonder that it might win them all. Which other song could stop the other three? Blackened would lose against all the other three leaders, for my tastes. We'll see if they'll meet up in these final matches and if they'll manage to stay on top until the end anyway!

36 songs already qualified, the cutoff now is not clean 'cause the 64th slot is shared among four songs. Motorbreath continues to tail along just behind.

In the end, surely thanks solely to derbies, most of St. Anger songs moved away from the 0 victories, but three are still there. Joining them is arguably one of the lesser songs of Load.
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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #81 on: May 16, 2020, 05:50:23 PM »
Of the four, Puppets is probably my favorite out of the studio, but nothing is like Creeping Death in concert. I’ll worry about deciding when we get there.

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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #82 on: May 17, 2020, 03:50:35 AM »
Well, Creeping Death is my favorite Metallica song so no worry for me, I'll vote for it against everything, surely it's gonna be a very interesting showdown if the final match is Creeping Death vs Master of Puppets!
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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #83 on: May 17, 2020, 06:08:50 PM »
Of the current top 4, it's Creep, Master and Blackened.  One, however, isn't anywhere near the top 4 for me.
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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #84 on: May 22, 2020, 08:26:16 AM »
Week 21-A - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55229.0
1.   Fight Fire With Fire defeats 2 X 4 11-2
2.   Damage Inc. defeats Here Comes Revenge 12-1 
3.   The Judas Kiss defeats Broken, Beat & Scarred 7-4
4.   Lords of Summer defeats Bad Seed 6-4
5.   (Anesthesia) – Pulling Teeth defeats Sweet Amber 8-2 
6.   No Leaf Clover defeats Wasting My Hate 6-4 
7.   Some Kind of Monster defeats Shoot Me Again 6-4   
8.   St. Anger defeats Purify 9-2 
9.   Thorn Within defeats Poor Twisted Me 6-4
10.   The Unforgiven III defeats My World 9-3 
11.   Moth Into Flame defeats Where the Wild Things Are 6-4 
12.   Metal Militia defeats Atlas, Rise! 7-4 
13.   Hero of the Day defeats Dirty Window 12-0 
14.   Cure defeats Invisible Kid 7-2 
15.   Fixxxer defeats All Within My Hands 8-3 
16.   Escape defeats Fuel 8-5   
17.   The God That Failed defeats Don’t Tread on Me 9-5
18.   Blackened defeats Low Man’s Lyric 13-0 
19.   Orion defeats The Thing That Should Not Be 9-5

Week 21-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55234.0
1.   …And Justice For All defeats ManUNkind 14-0
2.   The Memory Remains defeats Attitude 11-1 
3.   The House That Jack Built defeats Confusion 8-4 
4.   The End of the Line defeats Frantic 8-4 
5.   Wherever I May Roam defeats My Apocalypse 14-1 
6.   Cyanide defeats I Disappear 7-4 
7.   Through the Never defeats Phantom Lord 12-2 
8.   The Struggle Within defeats Prince Charming 12-1   
9.   The Day That Never Comes defeats -Human 8-3 
10.   Mama Said defeats Better Than You 10-1 
11.   To Live is to Die defeats Now That We’re Dead 11-3 
12.   Harvester of Sorrow defeats Dream No More 12-3 
13.   My Friend of Misery defeats The Unnamed Feeling 14-0
14.   Fade to Black defeats Ain’t My Bitch 14-1
15.   The Call of Ktulu defeats King Nothing 13-2 
16.   The Shortest Straw & Sad But True tied 7-7
17.   The Frayed Ends of Sanity  defeats Eye of the Beholder 9-5
18.   The Unforgiven II defeats Of Wolf and Man 10-5


Week 21-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55242.0
1.   Dyers Eve defeats Hardwired 12-0 
2.   Master of Puppets defeats Am I Savage? 12-0
3.   Carpe Diem Baby defeats Just a Bullet Away 6-3 
4.   Hit the Lights defeats Devil’s Dance 7-3 
5.   Welcome Home (Sanitarium) defeats Motorbreath 10-3
6.   Whiplash defeats Murder One 11-1
7.   The Outlaw Torn defeats That Was Just Your Life 9-3 
8.   Bleeding Me defeats Jump in the Fire 9-3 
9.   Until It Sleeps defeats No Remorse 7-5 
10.   Ronnie defeats Slither 6-4 
11.   Ride the Lightning defeats Suicide & Redemption 12-0 
12.   For Whom the Bell Tolls defeats All Nightmare Long 10-3
13.   Creeping Death defeats Holier Than Thou 11-2 
14.   Disposable Heroes defeats Halo on Fire 11-1 
15.   Spit Out the Bone defeats Seek & Destroy 7-5 
16.   Nothing Else Matters defeats Trapped Under Ice 8-5
17.   Enter Sandman defeats The Four Horsemen 7-6
18.   Battery defeats Leper Messiah 10-2

Week 21 Match of the Week - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55251.0
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« Reply #85 on: May 22, 2020, 08:26:57 AM »
Standings after Week 21

Top 64 songs at season’s end qualify for the Championship Tournament.
* = Clinched Tournament Berth
X = Eliminated from Tournament contention.

1.000 Winning %. Songs 1-4
*Blackened (21-0)
*Creeping Death (21-0)
*Master of Puppets (21-0)
*One (21-0)

.952 Winning %. Songs 5-8
*…And Justice for All (20-1)
*Damage Inc. (20-1)
*For Whom the Bell Tolls (20-1) 
*Orion (20-1)

.929 Winning %. Songs 9-11
*Disposable Heroes (19-1-1)
*Fade to Black (19-1-1)
*Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (19-1-1)

.905 Winning %. Song 12
*Battery (19-2)

.881 Winning %. Song 13
*Ride the Lightning (18-2-1)

.857 Winning %. Songs 14-18
*The Call of Ktulu (18-3)
*Enter Sandman (18-3)
*Spit Out the Bone (18-3)
*Through The Never (18-3)
*Wherever I May Roam (18-3)

.833 Winning %. Song 19
*The Shortest Straw (16-2-3)

.810 Winning %. Songs 20-21
*Fight Fire with Fire (17-4)
*Harvester of Sorrow (17-4)

.786 Winning %. Songs 22-27
*The God That Failed (16-4-1)
*Leper Messiah (16-4-1)
*To Live is to Die (16-4-1) 
*Trapped Under Ice (16-4-1)
*The Unforgiven II (16-4-1)
*Until It Sleeps (16-4-1)

.762 Winning %. Songs 28-29
*Dyers Eve (16-5)
*The Frayed Ends of Sanity (16-5)

.738 Winning %. Songs 30-32
*Bleeding Me (15-5-1)
*Nothing Else Matters (15-5-1)
*The Unforgiven (15-5-1)

.714 Winning %. Song 33
*The Thing That Should Not Be (14-5-2)

.690 Winning %. Songs 34-35
*Of Wolf and Man (14-6-1)
*Sad But True (14-6-1)

.667 Winning %. Songs 36-38
*The Four Horsemen (14-7)
*The Outlaw Torn (14-7)
*Whiplash (13-6-2)

.643 Winning %. Song 39
*Eye of the Beholder (13-7-1)

.619 Winning %. Songs 40-45
*Don’t Tread on Me (13-8)
*Escape (13-8)
*Halo on Fire (13-8)
*Hero of the Day (13-8)
*My Friend of Misery (13-8)
*That Was Just Your Life (12-7-2)

.595 Winning %. Songs 46-47
Fixxxer (12-8-1)
Moth Into Flame (12-8-1)

.571 Winning %. Songs 48-49
The End of the Line (12-9)
The Memory Remains (12-9)

.548 Winning %. Songs 50-53
The Day That Never Comes (11-9-1)
Holier Than Thou (11-9-1)
Low Man’s Lyric (10-8-3)
Seek & Destroy (11-9-1)

.524 Winning %. Songs 54-56
All Nightmare Long (11-10)
Cyanide (11-10)
King Nothing (11-10)

.500 Winning %. Songs 57-60
Am I Savage? (10-10-1)
Hit the Lights (10-10-1)
The House That Jack Built (9-10-2)
The Struggle Within (10-10-1)

.452 Winning %. Songs 61-62
Dream No More (9-11-1)
Fuel (9-11-1)

.429 Winning %. Songs 63-66
Ain’t My Bitch (9-12)
Atlas, Rise! (8-11-2)
Mama Said (9-12)
No Remorse (9-12)

.405 Winning %. Songs 67-69
Metal Militia (8-12-1)
Motorbreath (8-12-1)
The Unforgiven III (8-12-1)

.381 Winning %. Song 70
No Leaf Clover (7-12-2)

.357 Winning %. Songs 71-72
Jump in the Fire (7-13-1)
Now That We’re Dead (7-13-1)

.333 Winning %. Songs 73-76
Confusion (7-14)
The Judas Kiss (7-14)
Phantom Lord (7-14)
Thorn Within (7-14)

.310 Winning %. Song 77
My Apocalypse (6-14-1)

.286 Winning %. Songs 78-80
Broken, Beat & Scarred (6-15)
Carpe Diem Baby (6-15)
Devil’s Dance (6-15)

.262 Winning %. Songs 81-84
Here Comes Revenge (5-15-1)
ManUNkind (5-15-1)
The Unnamed Feeling (5-15-1)   
Where the Wild Things Are (5-15-1)

.238 Winning %. Songs 85-86
2 X 4 (5-16)
Lords of Summer (5-16)

.214 Winning %. Song 87
X Frantic (4-16-1)

.167 Winning %. Songs 88-95
X I Disappear (3-17-1)
X Hardwired (3-17-1)
X Just a Bullet Away (3-17-1)
X (Anesthesia) – Pulling Teeth (3-17-1)
X Prince Charming (3-17-1)
X Ronnie (3-17-1)
X Slither (3-17-1) 
X St. Anger (3-17-1)

.143 Winning %. Songs 96-100
X Bad Seed (3-18)
X Better Than You (3-18)
X -Human (3-18)
X Some Kind of Monster (3-18)
X Wasting My Hate (3-18)

.119 Winning %. Song 101
X Poor Twisted Me (2-18-1)

.095 Winning %. Songs 102-104
X All Within My Hands (2-19)
X Attitude (2-19)
X Shoot Me Again (2-19)

.048 Winning %. Songs 105-109
X Cure (1-20)
X Dirty Window (1-20)
X Invisible Kid (1-20)
X Murder One (1-20)
X Suicide & Redemption (1-20)

.000 Winning %. Songs 110-112
X My World (0-21)
X Purify (0-21)
X Sweet Amber (0-21)

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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #86 on: May 22, 2020, 08:34:14 AM »
Cure gets a win! now only three St. Anger songs remain on the bottom.

Cure joins the club of one victory, where we can find two other SA songs. And with a whopping two victories slgiht above.... again 2 other SA songs.

The top 4 remains unchallenged.

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« Reply #87 on: May 22, 2020, 08:51:15 AM »
I'm surprised that every St. Anger song isn't on the bottom. I know the Load/Reload material isn't the most well-liked, but every song on those albums is at least well-written and well-produced with way better lyrics than anything on St. Anger.

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« Reply #88 on: May 22, 2020, 08:57:43 AM »
Keep in mind that many of those songs matched against each other, a random B-Side no one heard of or one of the very lesser songs off Load / Reload, so out of 21 matches, it's no surprise that a St. Anger song can win a "derby".

We should look back but I'd be VERY surprised if the victories of St. Anger songs happened against anything pre-Load and Reload. I give only the title track a fightining chance against the worst songs from the albums after Load.
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« Reply #89 on: May 22, 2020, 09:03:14 AM »
The Unnamed Feeling's wins were over Attitude, Prince Charming, Invisible Kid, Wasting My Hate & Shoot Me Again

St. Anger's wins were over Cure, Shoot Me Again & Purify

Both songs get murdered against the Pre-Load stuff.

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« Reply #90 on: May 22, 2020, 09:39:25 AM »
I didn't double-check my counting, but it seems that everything from RTL, MOP and AJFA has qualified, and only one song from TBA has not qualified.  Seven songs from KEA remain in limbo, which surprises me a bit.  Anesthesia seems to be the only pre-Load song that has been eliminated.

And am I seeing correctly that only 8 post-TBA songs have qualified?
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« Reply #91 on: May 22, 2020, 09:47:58 AM »
I count 7, I might have missed one, but the one just a win away (presumabily) from qualification are 4 songs in a row post-TBA.
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« Reply #92 on: May 22, 2020, 10:20:24 AM »
I count 7, I might have missed one, but the one just a win away (presumabily) from qualification are 4 songs in a row post-TBA.

Yup.  I counted again.  It's 7, not 8.
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« Reply #93 on: May 29, 2020, 08:57:17 AM »
Week 22-A - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55276.0
1.   That Was Just Your Life defeats Frantic 8-4 
2.   Atlas, Rise! defeats Dirty Window 11-0
3.   The House that Jack Built defeats Ronnie 8-2 
4.   Cyanide defeats Better Than You 9-2
5.   All Nightmare Long defeats Carpe Diem Baby 8-3 
6.   Slither defeats -Human 6-4
7.   King Nothing defeats (Anesthesia) – Pulling Teeth 10-3
8.   I Disappear defeats Shoot Me Again 9-2 
9.   Whiplash defeats Dream No More 8-4
10.   Bleeding Me defeats Ain’t My Bitch 7-4
11.   Welcome Home (Sanitarium) defeats Don’t Tread on Me 14-0
12.   Of Wolf and Man defeats Metal Militia 10-4 
13.   My Friend of Misery defeats Motorbreath 9-5 
14.   Leper Messiah defeats The Outlaw Torn 8-5 
15.   Eye of the Beholder defeats Until It Sleeps 8-5 
16.   The Frayed Ends of Sanity defeats Through the Never 10-4 
17.   Master of Puppets defeats Nothing Else Matters 13-1 
18.   The Four Horsemen defeats The Thing That Should Not Be 9-4 
19.   Fade to Black defeats Trapped Under Ice 11-3 


Week 22-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55280.0
1.   Blackened defeats Cure 12-0 
2.   Halo on Fire defeats St. Anger 9-2 
3.   Devil’s Dance defeats Attitude 10-0
4.   Now That We’re Dead defeats ManUNkind 10-0   
5.   Hit the Lights defeats Some Kind of Monster 11-1 
6.   2 X 4 defeats Broken, Beat & Scarred 8-2
7.   Ride the Lightning defeats Just a Bullet Away 11-1   
8.   Moth Into Flame defeats My World 10-0
9.   Hardwired defeats Sweet Amber 11-0 
10.   Creeping Death defeats Bad Seed 13-0
11.   Jump in the Fire defeats Prince Charming 9-2 
12.   Phantom Lord defeats Mama Said 7-4
13.   Escape defeats Wasting My Hate 8-4 
14.   Disposable Heroes defeats Where the Wild Things Are 10-2 
15.   Enter Sandman defeats The Unforgiven III 10-3 
16.   Sad But True defeats Holier than Thou 8-5 
17.   The God That Failed defeats The Struggle Within 8-5 
18.   For Whom the Bell Tolls defeats The Unforgiven 8-5 



Week 22-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55286.0
1.   Battery defeats Confusion 11-0
2.   The Call of Ktulu defeats All Within My Hands 11-1
3.   The End of the Line defeats The Unnamed Feeling 7-4 
4.   The Shortest Straw defeats Here Comes Revenge 10-1 
5.   The Judas Kiss defeats Purify 9-1
6.   Seek & Destroy defeats Invisible Kid 10-0 
7.   Fuel defeats Thorn Within 8-4 
8.   Orion defeats Lords of Summer 10-2 
9.   No Remorse defeats Murder One 10-1 
10.   Low Man’s Lyric defeats Poor Twisted Me 9-1
11.   My Apocalypse defeats No Leaf Clover 5-4
12.   Harvester of Sorrow defeats Suicide & Redemption 9-2
13.   Am I Savage? & The Day That Never Comes tied 5-5
14.   One defeats The Memory Remains 11-1 
15.   Spit Out the Bone defeats Hero of the Day 7-4   
16.   The Unforgiven II defeats Fixxxer 8-3 
17.   Fight Fire With Fire defeats To Live Is to Die 7-4 
18.   Dyers Eve defeats Wherever I May Roam 8-4 

Week 22 Match of the Week - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55293.0
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« Reply #94 on: May 29, 2020, 08:58:33 AM »

Standings after Week 22

Top 64 songs at season’s end qualify for the Championship Tournament.
* = Clinched Tournament Berth
X = Eliminated from Tournament contention.

1.000 Winning %. Songs 1-4
*Blackened (22-0)
*Creeping Death (22-0)
*Master of Puppets (22-0)
*One (22-0)

.955 Winning %. Songs 5-7
*…And Justice for All (21-1)
*For Whom the Bell Tolls (21-1) 
*Orion (21-1)

.932 Winning %. Songs 8-10
*Disposable Heroes (20-1-1)
*Fade to Black (20-1-1)
*Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (20-1-1)

.909 Winning %. Songs 11-12
*Battery (20-2)
*Damage Inc. (20-2)

.886 Winning %. Song 13
*Ride the Lightning (19-2-1)

.864 Winning %. Songs 14-16
*The Call of Ktulu (19-3)
*Enter Sandman (19-3)
*Spit Out the Bone (19-3)

.841 Winning %. Song 17
*The Shortest Straw (17-2-3)

.818 Winning %. Songs 18-21
*Fight Fire with Fire (18-4)
*Harvester of Sorrow (18-4)
*Through The Never (18-4)
*Wherever I May Roam (18-4)

.795 Winning %. Songs 22-24
*The God That Failed (17-4-1)
*Leper Messiah (17-4-1)
*The Unforgiven II (17-4-1)

.773 Winning %. Songs 25-26
*Dyers Eve (17-5)
*The Frayed Ends of Sanity (17-5)

.750 Winning %. Songs 27-30
*Bleeding Me (16-5-1)
*To Live is to Die (16-5-1) 
*Trapped Under Ice (16-5-1)
*Until It Sleeps (16-5-1)

.705 Winning %. Songs 31-34
*Nothing Else Matters (15-6-1)
*Of Wolf and Man (15-6-1)
*Sad But True (15-6-1)
*The Unforgiven (15-6-1)

.682 Winning %. Songs 35-37
*The Four Horsemen (15-7)
*The Thing That Should Not Be (14-6-2)
*Whiplash (14-6-2)

.659 Winning %. Song 38
*Eye of the Beholder (14-7-1)

.636 Winning %. Songs 39-43
*Escape (14-8)
*Halo on Fire (14-8)
*My Friend of Misery (14-8)
*The Outlaw Torn (14-8)
*That Was Just Your Life (13-7-2)

.614 Winning %. Song 44
*Moth Into Flame (13-8-1)

.591 Winning %. Songs 45-47
*Don’t Tread on Me (13-9)
*The End of the Line (13-9)
*Hero of the Day (13-9)

.568 Winning %. Songs 48-50
*Fixxxer (12-9-1)
*Low Man’s Lyric (11-8-3)
*Seek & Destroy (12-9-1)

.545 Winning %. Songs 51-55
All Nightmare Long (12-10)
Cyanide (12-10)
The Day That Never Comes (11-9-2)
King Nothing (12-10)
The Memory Remains (12-10)

.523 Winning %. Songs 56-57
Hit the Lights (11-10-1)
Holier Than Thou (11-10-1)

.500 Winning %. Songs 58-59
Am I Savage? (10-10-2)
The House That Jack Built (10-10-2)

.477 Winning %. Songs 60-61
Fuel (10-11-1)
The Struggle Within (10-11-1)

.455 Winning %. Songs 62-63
Atlas, Rise! (9-11-2)
No Remorse (10-12)

.432 Winning %. Song 64
Dream No More (9-12-1)

.409 Winning %. Songs 65-66
Ain’t My Bitch (9-13)
Mama Said (9-13)

.386 Winning %. Songs 67-71
Jump in the Fire (8-13-1)
Metal Militia (8-13-1)
Motorbreath (8-13-1)
Now That We’re Dead (8-13-1)
The Unforgiven III (8-13-1)

.364 Winning %. Songs 72-74
The Judas Kiss (8-14)
No Leaf Clover (7-13-2)
Phantom Lord (8-14)

.341 Winning %. Song 75
My Apocalypse (7-14-1)

.318 Winning %. Songs 76-78
Confusion (7-15)
Devil’s Dance (7-15)
Thorn Within (7-15)

.273 Winning %. Songs 79-81
X 2 X 4 (6-16)
X Broken, Beat & Scarred (6-16)
X Carpe Diem Baby (6-16)

.250 Winning %. Songs 82-85
XHere Comes Revenge (5-16-1)
X ManUNkind (5-16-1)
X The Unnamed Feeling (5-16-1)   
X Where the Wild Things Are (5-16-1)

.227 Winning %. Song 86
X Lords of Summer (5-17)

.205 Winning %. Songs 87-90
X Frantic (4-17-1)
X Hardwired (4-17-1)
X I Disappear (4-17-1)
X Slither (4-17-1) 

.159 Winning %. Songs 91-95
X Just a Bullet Away (3-18-1)
X (Anesthesia) – Pulling Teeth (3-18-1)
X Prince Charming (3-18-1)
X Ronnie (3-18-1)
X St. Anger (3-18-1)

.136 Winning %. Songs 96-100
X Bad Seed (3-19)
X Better Than You (3-19)
X -Human (3-19)
X Some Kind of Monster (3-19)
X Wasting My Hate (3-19)

.114 Winning %. Song 101
X Poor Twisted Me (2-19-1)

.091 Winning %. Songs 102-104
X All Within My Hands (2-20)
X Attitude (2-20)
X Shoot Me Again (2-20)

.045 Winning %. Songs 105-109
X Cure (1-21)
X Dirty Window (1-21)
X Invisible Kid (1-21)
X Murder One (1-21)
X Suicide & Redemption (1-21)

.000 Winning %. Songs 110-112
X My World (0-22)
X Purify (0-22)
X Sweet Amber (0-22)

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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #95 on: May 29, 2020, 09:00:31 AM »
A couple of observations I've made since running this.

I have No Leaf Clover vastly overrated. It's one of my favorite Metallica songs. Here, it's an afterthought.

I have For Whom the Bell Tolls vastly underrated. Sure its a decent song, but I never thought of it as anything special. Here it seems to be revered as an all time great.

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« Reply #96 on: May 29, 2020, 09:08:04 AM »
The Justice vs Damage match was as close as a top match it came to be, and kicked Damage Inc. off the top 10. Not that it matters that much for the album Master of Puppets - 6 (out of 8) of its song are in the first 12 places!

As of now, the cutoff is clean, Dream No More is the last song in, while Ain't My Bitch and Mama Said are the first songs out. I still root for Metal Militia and Motorbreath however.

The list of songs wanting to clinch the 64th place grows thinner and the list of eliminated songs grows larger however. Bitch and Mama (Mama Bitch? XD) have 9 victories and are one slot away from the qualification, but with only two victories less there are 4 songs on the very brink of elimination.

Also - did I read it wrong or both the albums Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets have qualified in their entirety?

About For whom the Bell Tolls, I don't see what's there to not like. Iconic intro with a great bassline, which songs has a 2 minutes long intro that is basically hummable all the way through? it's concise, it's relatively catchy and it's great for air guitar, air drumming, or air anything else. The perfect concise song.
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« Reply #97 on: May 29, 2020, 09:18:08 AM »
Adding further musing to the top list:

It's dominated by Ride / Master / Justice songs.

The first songs not out of these albums are maybe a relative surprise: the played-a-million-times Enter Sandman, and a song from the latest album, Spit Out the Bone, which are 15th and 16th.

The Black Album is the only other album amidst more songs at the top from Ride / Master / Justice. and we have to go until the 24th position to find an outsider from the infamous Reload: The Unforgiven II.

Then it's always those albums until the 27th / 30th batch, with two Load songs.

A Kill 'em All song (two actually) surface only at 35/37.

It's only in the further batch, 39-43, tht we find the last Ride song (Escape) and the first Death Magnetic song (That was just your Life).
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« Reply #98 on: May 29, 2020, 10:25:32 AM »
I have For Whom the Bell Tolls vastly underrated. Sure its a decent song, but I never thought of it as anything special. Here it seems to be revered as an all time great.

I think Bell is a song that benefited greatly from the Cult of Cliff.  Cliff was a great bassist and was incredibly innovative (as the intro of Bell demonstrates), and having died so young, he probably garners more reverence than someone with less than 3 hours of recorded music to his name should get.  This is a song with a prominent bass intro, so it gets a lift from that (although I think I'm not alone in having not known initially that it was a bass intro).  I don't recall for sure, but I might not have known it was bass until the Cliff 'Em All video was released.  In addition, because of its relatively short run time and more moderate tempo, it received a fair amount of airplay on stations that played metal back in the 80s.


Also - did I read it wrong or both the albums Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets have qualified in their entirety?

Yup.  as of last week, all songs from both albums (as well as AJFA) qualified.  I believe the last one to qualify was Escape.

Biggest surprise for me is that KEA hasn't performed better.
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« Reply #99 on: May 29, 2020, 12:23:49 PM »
The RTL/MOP/AJFA triple threat is almost universally revered as the best three album run in Metallica’s discography, if not the history of metal. It’s beyond those albums that the debate starts. In a more straightforward metal fan’s eyes, KEA may be album number four, but here on a progressive rock band’s forum, TBA with its stronger hooks and cleaner production is a bit more respected.
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« Reply #100 on: May 29, 2020, 12:55:01 PM »
Sometimes I actually forget how good most of KEA is. Production aside, most of those songs are amazing and I'm always in the mood for songs like Whiplash. I think, at least for me, when I think of KEA, I think of Seek and Destroy which is drastically overplayed for me, and songs like Phantom Lord or Metal Militia which I don't care for. Then I go back and listen and remember how amazing the rest is.
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« Reply #101 on: May 29, 2020, 01:16:39 PM »
The RTL/MOP/AJFA triple threat is almost universally revered as the best three album run in Metallica’s discography, if not the history of metal. It’s beyond those albums that the debate starts. In a more straightforward metal fan’s eyes, KEA may be album number four, but here on a progressive rock band’s forum, TBA with its stronger hooks and cleaner production is a bit more respected.

It's pretty clear that TBA gets more respect/love than KEA.  However, I'm not sure it necessarily follows from the fact that this is "a progressive rock band's forum."  I wouldn't describe either album as proggy, but KEA is a little more so, and I would think TBA would lose some points for being a drastic retreat into the mainstream.  Who knows?


Sometimes I actually forget how good most of KEA is. Production aside, most of those songs are amazing and I'm always in the mood for songs like Whiplash. I think, at least for me, when I think of KEA, I think of Seek and Destroy which is drastically overplayed for me, and songs like Phantom Lord or Metal Militia which I don't care for. Then I go back and listen and remember how amazing the rest is.

When I think of KEA, I think of Seek (which I agree is overplayed, but it's still a great song -- that opening riff is iconic), Horsemen and Anesthesia/Whiplash.  I'm also not much of a fan of Phantom or Militia and think Lights and Jump are just middling, but Motorbreath and No Remorse and really good songs.  And I think the production fits the music pretty well.
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« Reply #102 on: June 05, 2020, 08:47:22 AM »
Week 23-A - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55310.0
1.   The Unforgiven defeats I Disappear 12-1 
2.   The Unforgiven II defeats Invisible Kid 12-0
3.   The Unforgiven III defeats -Human 8-4
4.   Fuel defeats Attitude 13-0 
5.   Hit the Lights defeats Wasting My Hate 9-3 
6.   All Within My Hands defeats Dirty Window 6-1 
7.   No Leaf Clover defeats (Anesthesia) – Pulling Teeth 7-4
8.   Seek & Destroy defeats Murder One 11-1
9.   Of Wolf and Man defeats Phantom Lord 11-2 
10.   My Friend of Misery defeats Prince Charming 12-1 
11.   The Struggle Within defeats Lords of Summer 11-1 
12.   Mama Said defeats Sweet Amber 10-0 
13.   The Memory Remains defeats Some Kind of Monster 11-1
14.   Dyers Eve defeats Cyanide 11-2
15.   Fade to Black defeats Bad Seed 13-0
16.   Ain’t My Bitch defeats The Day That Never Comes 7-5 
17.   Bleeding Me defeats The End of the Line 8-4 
18.   Harvester of Sorrow defeats Whiplash 10-2 
19.   The Frayed Ends of Sanity defeats Atlas, Rise! 9-3

Week 23-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55315.0
1.   Wherever I May Roam defeats Hardwired 13-0 
2.   All Nightmare Long defeats Devil’s Dance 9-2
3.   Dream No More defeats Cure 8-2
4.   Halo on Fire defeats Where the Wild Things Are 6-4 
5.   My Apocalypse defeats Shoot Me Again 7-2
6.   Disposable Heroes defeats Confusion 12-0 
7.   Purify defeats My World 3-2 
8.   Low Man’s Lyric defeats Suicide & Redemption 9-2 
9.   The Outlaw Torn defeats Now That We’re Dead 7-4
10.   Spit Out the Bone defeats Metal Militia 7-5 
11.   Thorn Within defeats Just a Bullet Away 8-3 
12.   The Shortest Straw defeats ManUNkind 11-1
13.   Here Comes Revenge defeats The Unnamed Feeling 8-2   
14.   Eye of the Beholder defeats Carpe Diem Baby 11-1 
15.   Fixxxer defeats Better Than You 11-0
16.   That Was Just Your Life defeats The Judas Kiss 8-4 
17.   Trapped Under Ice & The House that Jack Built tied 6-6
18.   The Four Horsemen defeats Am I Savage? 8-3 

Week 23-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55320.0
1.   Ride the Lightning defeats No Remorse 9-2   
2.   Master of Puppets defeats Slither 11-0
3.   …And Justice for All defeats Frantic 11-0
4.   Leper Messiah defeats St. Anger 11-0
5.   Enter Sandman defeats Broken, Beat & Scarred 11-1
6.   Damage Inc. defeats 2 X 4 9-2
7.   One defeats Poor Twisted Me 11-0
8.   Creeping Death defeats Don’t Tread on Me 11-1
9.   The Call of Ktulu defeats Escape 10-2
10.   Moth Into Flame defeats Ronnie 7-2 
11.   The Thing That Should Not Be defeats Jump in the Fire 10-1 
12.   Sad But True defeats Motorbreath 7-5 
13.   Through the Never defeats King Nothing 7-5 
14.   To Live is to Die defeats Holier Than Thou 7-5
15.   Orion defeats Nothing Else Matters 8-4 
16.   Until It Sleeps defeats Hero of the Day 6-5 
17.   Welcome Home (Sanitarium) defeats The God That Failed 12-0 
18.   Battery defeats Fight Fire with Fire 8-3 

Week 23 Match of the Week - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55325.0
Blackened defeats For Whom the Bell Tolls 12-6 

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« Reply #103 on: June 05, 2020, 08:48:03 AM »

Standings after Week 23

Top 64 songs at season’s end qualify for the Championship Tournament.
* = Clinched Tournament Berth
X = Eliminated from Tournament contention.

1.000 Winning %. Songs 1-4
*Blackened (23-0)
*Creeping Death (23-0)
*Master of Puppets (23-0)
*One (23-0)

.957 Winning %. Songs 5-6
*…And Justice for All (22-1)
*Orion (22-1)

.937 Winning %. Songs 7-9
*Disposable Heroes (21-1-1)
*Fade to Black (21-1-1)
*Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (21-1-1)

.913 Winning %. Songs 10-12
*Battery (21-2)
*Damage Inc. (21-2)
*For Whom the Bell Tolls (21-2) 

.891 Winning %. Song 13
*Ride the Lightning (20-2-1)

.870 Winning %. Songs 14-16
*The Call of Ktulu (20-3)
*Enter Sandman (20-3)
*Spit Out the Bone (20-3)

.848 Winning %. Song 17
*The Shortest Straw (18-2-3)

.826 Winning %. Songs 18-20
*Harvester of Sorrow (19-4)
*Through the Never (19-4)
*Wherever I May Roam (19-4)

.804 Winning %. Songs 21-22
*Leper Messiah (18-4-1)
*The Unforgiven II (18-4-1)

.783 Winning %. Songs 23-25
*Dyers Eve (18-5)
*Fight Fire with Fire (18-5)
*The Frayed Ends of Sanity (18-5)

.761 Winning %. Songs 26-29
*Bleeding Me (17-5-1)
*The God That Failed (17-5-1)
*To Live is to Die (17-5-1) 
*Until It Sleeps (17-5-1)

.739 Winning %. Songs 30
*Trapped Under Ice (16-5-2)

.717 Winning %. Songs 31-33
*Of Wolf and Man (16-6-1)
*Sad But True (16-6-1)
*The Unforgiven (16-6-1)

.696 Winning %. Songs 34-35
*The Four Horsemen (16-7)
*The Thing That Should Not Be (15-6-2)

.674 Winning %. Song 36-37
*Eye of the Beholder (15-7-1)
*Nothing Else Matters (15-7-1)

.652 Winning %. Songs 38-42
*Halo on Fire (15-8)
*My Friend of Misery (15-8)
*The Outlaw Torn (15-8)
*That Was Just Your Life (14-7-2)
*Whiplash (14-7-2)

.630 Winning %. Song 43
*Moth Into Flame (14-8-1)

.609 Winning %. Song 44
*Escape (14-9)

.587 Winning %. Songs 45-47
*Fixxxer (13-9-1)
*Low Man’s Lyric (12-8-3)
*Seek & Destroy (13-9-1)

.565 Winning %. Songs 48-52
*All Nightmare Long (13-10)
*Don’t Tread on Me (13-10)
*The End of the Line (13-10)
*Hero of the Day (13-10)
*The Memory Remains (13-10)

.543 Winning %. Song 53
*Hit the Lights (12-10-1)

.522 Winning %. Songs 54-56
Cyanide (12-11)
The Day That Never Comes (11-10-2)
King Nothing (12-11)

.500 Winning %. Songs 57-60
Fuel (11-11-1)
Holier Than Thou (11-11-1)
The House That Jack Built (10-10-3)
The Struggle Within (11-11-1)

.478 Winning %. Song 61
Am I Savage? (10-11-2)

.457 Winning %. Song 62
Dream No More (10-12-1)

.435 Winning %. Songs 63-66
Ain’t My Bitch (10-13)
Atlas, Rise! (9-12-2)
Mama Said (10-13)
No Remorse (10-13)

.413 Winning %. Song 67
The Unforgiven III (9-13-1)

.391 Winning %. Song 68
No Leaf Clover (8-13-2)

.370 Winning %. Songs 69-73
Jump in the Fire (8-14-1)
Metal Militia (8-14-1)
Motorbreath (8-14-1)
My Apocalypse (8-14-1)
Now That We’re Dead (8-14-1)

.348 Winning %. Songs 74-76
The Judas Kiss (8-15)
Phantom Lord (8-15)
Thorn Within (8-15)

.304 Winning %. Songs 77-78
X Confusion (7-16)
X Devil’s Dance (7-16)

.283 Winning %. Song 79
X Here Comes Revenge (6-16-1)

.261 Winning %. Songs 80-82
X 2 X 4 (6-17)
X Broken, Beat & Scarred (6-17)
X Carpe Diem Baby (6-17)
   
.239 Winning %. Songs 83-85
X ManUNkind (5-17-1)
X The Unnamed Feeling (5-17-1
X Where the Wild Things Are (5-17-1)

.217 Winning %. Song 86
X Lords of Summer (5-18)

.196 Winning %. Songs 87-
X Frantic (4-18-1)
X Hardwired (4-18-1)
X I Disappear (4-18-1)
X Slither (4-18-1) 

.152 Winning %. Songs 91-95
X Just a Bullet Away (3-19-1)
X Prince Charming (3-19-1)
X (Anesthesia) – Pulling Teeth (3-19-1)
X Ronnie (3-19-1)
X St. Anger (3-19-1)

.130 Winning %. Songs 96-101
X All Within My Hands (3-20)
X Bad Seed (3-20)
X Better Than You (3-20)
X -Human (3-20)
X Some Kind of Monster (3-20)
X Wasting My Hate (3-20)

.109 Winning %. Song 102
X Poor Twisted Me (2-20-1)

.087 Winning %. Songs 103-104
X Attitude (2-21)
X Shoot Me Again (2-21)

.043 Winning %. Songs 105-110
X Cure (1-22)
X Dirty Window (1-22)
X Invisible Kid (1-22)
X Murder One (1-22)
X Purify (1-22)
X Suicide & Redemption (1-22)

.000 Winning %. Songs 111-112
X My World (0-23)
X Sweet Amber (0-23)

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Re: Metallica the League 2020 - Home Thread
« Reply #104 on: June 05, 2020, 08:59:58 AM »
The very big match resulted in Blackened managing to lead along the super trinity of Master / One / Creeping Death, and For Whom the Bell Tolls being kicked at the brink of the top 10 (what's Justice doing up there with one loss only?).

Spit out the Bone continues to be the top post Black album song, and the only one until the 22th slot.

Ain’t My Bitch, Atlas, Rise, Mama Said and No Remorse desperately trying, in four, to occupy a slot which is only two spaces large. With 2 match remaining, looks like only Unvorgiven III and No Leaf Clover might have a comeback, while Metal Militia and Motorbreath are desperate (and I favor them over these previously discusses songs, meh!).

And look at Purify stealing a win! now only My World and Sweet Amber are teh suckage of teh suckage.
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