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Re: DREAM THEATER - At Wit's End (OFFICIAL ANIMATION VIDEO)
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2019, 12:21:57 AM »
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Re: DREAM THEATER - At Wit's End (OFFICIAL ANIMATION VIDEO)
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2019, 12:43:46 AM »

I mean, the song itself is already dealing with the topic. Telling a friend to check out an extremely bleak and depressing video isn't exactly much different from telling them to listen to a song which conveys the exact same message. Depressing subject matters aren't exactly uncommon in the world of metal after all, so I don't see the issue here.

I agree that that'd be a terrible idea for ELP, but I feel like that's largely related to how poorly the song is already written. At Wits End really wouldn't be doomed right out of the gate in that regard.

Well maybe you have a point considering that this band isn't exactly known for its breathtaking music videos, but I think with the aid of good direction, acting, & scripting, it could make the concept into a really poignant video. Sure it has a risk of backfiring if anything is half-assed, but I think that that'd be really subject to the time & budget of the project.

As for examples, I'd point to Metallica's Confusion as a good way to deal with a serious topic in a music video. It's not completely literal, but it's just symbolic enough to induce the emotions related to combat trauma without making it hard to take seriously. I don't see how DT couldn't do something like that, besides budget concerns or something.

I mean, obviously it's DT's choice whether they want to make a video like that, & I'm not demanding them to do it or anything, but I'm also not going to deny that I think there's a chance that they could make it work, & it'd be amazing to see them do something like that successfully.
You are totally right (in theory). I just don't think they could pull this kind of thing off without a the right combination of luck/skill/vision.

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Re: DREAM THEATER - At Wit's End (OFFICIAL ANIMATION VIDEO)
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2019, 01:40:16 AM »
Though, I would guess that, given that what it was intended to serve as (a screen film for the live show), it may serve well.
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Re: DREAM THEATER - At Wit's End (OFFICIAL ANIMATION VIDEO)
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2019, 07:32:19 AM »

I mean, the song itself is already dealing with the topic. Telling a friend to check out an extremely bleak and depressing video isn't exactly much different from telling them to listen to a song which conveys the exact same message. Depressing subject matters aren't exactly uncommon in the world of metal after all, so I don't see the issue here.

I agree that that'd be a terrible idea for ELP, but I feel like that's largely related to how poorly the song is already written. At Wits End really wouldn't be doomed right out of the gate in that regard.

Well maybe you have a point considering that this band isn't exactly known for its breathtaking music videos, but I think with the aid of good direction, acting, & scripting, it could make the concept into a really poignant video. Sure it has a risk of backfiring if anything is half-assed, but I think that that'd be really subject to the time & budget of the project.

As for examples, I'd point to Metallica's Confusion as a good way to deal with a serious topic in a music video. It's not completely literal, but it's just symbolic enough to induce the emotions related to combat trauma without making it hard to take seriously. I don't see how DT couldn't do something like that, besides budget concerns or something.

I mean, obviously it's DT's choice whether they want to make a video like that, & I'm not demanding them to do it or anything, but I'm also not going to deny that I think there's a chance that they could make it work, & it'd be amazing to see them do something like that successfully.
You are totally right (in theory). I just don't think they could pull this kind of thing off without a the right combination of luck/skill/vision.


Well, in my opinion, they already have done something like this and that was with the 2nd The Enemy Inside video.  I thought it was really well done, and tackled a sensitive topic in an engaging and moving way.

Granted that was done with a different record company with deeper pockets, but I do think it is at least an example of what IDontNotDoThings is trying to say.

I think At Wit's End could have benefited greatly from a similar video treatment.

We didn't get that so it's kind of a mute point, but here's to wishing.  :)
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Re: DREAM THEATER - At Wit's End (OFFICIAL ANIMATION VIDEO)
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2019, 08:08:16 AM »


Plenty of "depressing" videos have been popular.  Off the top of my head, MTV played the heck out of "One" (Metallica), "Jeremy" (Pearl Jam), and even "House of Pain" (Faster Pussycat).


We didn't get that so it's kind of a mute point, but here's to wishing.  :)



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Re: DREAM THEATER - At Wit's End (OFFICIAL ANIMATION VIDEO)
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2019, 08:08:58 AM »
I believe you both mean that it's a moo point.
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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2019, 08:09:26 AM »
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Re: DREAM THEATER - At Wit's End (OFFICIAL ANIMATION VIDEO)
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2019, 05:53:37 PM »
I already don't care for music videos, so why would I stare at that for 9 minutes when I can just listen to the CD? Even if I loved music videos, why would I watch that? If anything, I'd open a new tab and do something else while listening. I hope the animator got paid for their pointless work.