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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #560 on: November 02, 2019, 10:21:10 PM »


it's pretty exciting throughout the first half, though i feel like after the song i was sent everything else is kinda... less ambitious. there's like three ballad tracks among the remaining 5 and they're all fine and the two remaining metal tracks are fine but from just the first half i was sure this was gonna be an insta-buy and now i'm not so sure. i'll prooobably get it anyways though, the back half could grow on me



this one's as all-over-the-place as i expected and there's not really any other track like the title track, but there's still some good stuff here all the same. my biggest gripe is how nothing really fits together, not only do consecutive songs often have wild shifts in tone there's just straight up cuts at the end of tracks into the next ones that feel jarring. will need a relisten though i am liking it on the whole? excellent album art, also.

i picked these two first specifically because they're 2019 albums and i wanna get 2019 stuff before the year-end, but i'll check out the other two albums from this round tomorrow most likely

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #561 on: November 03, 2019, 06:14:58 AM »
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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Searching for a Dacul!)
« Reply #562 on: November 03, 2019, 09:52:31 AM »
Hangman!

???: _ate ____ - T_e ___ ___
???: A_ Ta__ A_ _____ - __ _a_e __ _apt__e
???: Scar Symmetry - The Kaleidoscopic God
???: ___t D_ma__ - ___e __ ____a__
???: Da___pa_e - Da__ ___
???: _a_et_a___ - ____e_t
???: Type O Negative - Love You To Death
???: ____e____de - __de__ate_m___
???: E___e_ - M_ M___
???: _ate_ T_ T_e M______ - __ape_ Pe______

Letters Guessed: ADEMT

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« Last Edit: November 03, 2019, 10:25:48 AM by Cyril »

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #563 on: November 03, 2019, 09:53:13 AM »
Type O Negative
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #564 on: November 03, 2019, 10:01:05 AM »
And the song is Love You to Death
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #565 on: November 03, 2019, 10:20:38 AM »
Let's have some E.

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #566 on: November 03, 2019, 10:22:43 AM »
fresh E delivery!!!

i'm gonna do the wintersun writeup in a short bit here btw

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« Reply #567 on: November 03, 2019, 10:23:52 AM »
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #568 on: November 03, 2019, 10:26:08 AM »
A...... Novelist?

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #569 on: November 03, 2019, 10:29:58 AM »
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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Searching for a Dacul!)
« Reply #570 on: November 03, 2019, 10:31:19 AM »
Hangman!

???: _ate ____ - T_e ___ ___
???: A_ Ta__ A_ ___n_ - _n _a_e __ _apt__e
???: Scar Symmetry - The Kaleidoscopic God
???: Lost Domain - ___e __ ____a__
???: Darkspace - Da__ _1_
???: _a_et_an_n - ____ent
???: Type O Negative - Love You To Death
???: __n_e____de - _nde__ate_m__n
???: E___e_ - M_ M__n
???: _ate_ T_ T_e M__n_n_ - __ape_ Pe______

Letters Guessed: ADEMNT1

Buddy waits 3
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TAC waits 4

sure why not but y'all need to start solving some of the rest now there's already a lot of letters
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #571 on: November 03, 2019, 10:32:52 AM »
Lost Domain sent by the motherfucker.


Song is Rise Of Isolash. So good.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #572 on: November 03, 2019, 10:45:47 AM »
Gimme number 1 ;)
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #573 on: November 03, 2019, 10:47:54 AM »
You Get 1

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #574 on: November 03, 2019, 10:50:23 AM »
Ok, the band is Darkspace. But since you've apparently omitted a period I won't go any further about the song than Dark :lol
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #575 on: November 03, 2019, 10:59:18 AM »
Lost Domain sent by the motherfucker.


Song is Rise Of Isolash. So good.

That's correct my motherfucker
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #576 on: November 03, 2019, 10:59:30 AM »
Yeah I'm skipping all punctuation this time around it makes everything too easy
btw comparisons might come tonight if i feel like doing another listen tonight, doing third listen right now

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #577 on: November 03, 2019, 11:56:59 AM »
fresh E delivery!!!

i'm gonna do the wintersun writeup in a short bit here btw
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #578 on: November 03, 2019, 12:29:08 PM »
Round 3.5 Results
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ariich: Wintersun – Sons of Winter and Stars
Theme: None

First Impressions:
Wow, this is extra as heck.

Final Thoughts:
This is literally just Land of Snow and Sorrow. 2/5.

Okay so immediately my first problem with this is how bad the sound balancing is. Literally every time I have to turn up my speakers for the intro and then the song kicks in and it’s way too loud, that’s such a harsh cut! It’s maybe because large segments of this song are Devin Townsend-levels of “wall of sound” which… well, not necessarily bad on its own but it does make for a very cluttered sound overall.

The way this song unfolds over its long runtime fits into my head as such… first bit is a triplet feel, second bit is a 4/4 feel, third bit is a faster triplet feel, fourth bit is the quiet bit, and after that uuhh the song feels like it meanders for 5 more minutes. I really always start losing interest towards the end of this, since it’s pretty long and doesn’t feel like it has much else to offer towards the end, unless I’ve just been missing something.

Another issue I’ve had with this one is that I don’t find any of its motifs as memorable as the main motif of the other Wintersun song. That one’s kinda been lodged in my head for a bit, in part due to how often I repeats I guess, but it’s surprisingly catchy. For this one, I can remember how the title drop in the chorus goes and some of the main motif that repeats throughout parts of this, but that’s about it. Maybe it’s due to this being a 13+ minute song I’ve tried to absorb in about 2 days and change.

Comments on the individual sections, as best as I can give them… the first section is solid, it’s what feels like should be the “core” of the song, even though what turns out to be the core is the faster version of such. The 4/4 segment is probably the part of the song (besides the clean bit) that feels the least cluttered and most riff-driven and the riffs throughout are pretty solid. It’s probably my favorite bit of this? It has more to it than “trying to sound epic”, there’s some groove to it too. Not that “trying to sound epic” is inherently bad either. I also like how this section transitions into the one after it.

The faster bit after is probably the least memorable, especially with how short it sticks around until we get to the clean bit. There’s some solid symphonic stuff going on there but it’s all kind of a blur, it doesn’t have much of a melodic hook to it. The clean bit then, it’s a nice reprieve that comes right towards the middle of the song, maybe it would’ve been nice to have a bit of reprieve earlier too but I don’t really have any gripes about this segment other than it doesn’t really impress me that much? But it’s nice.

After that is the bit where the first segment gets reprised (yay motif!) and then the song goes off into an instrumental segment. I can’t help but wonder if these riffs would hit better at a slower tempo? It gets to a point where it’s almost too fast to build up a groove and the melodies can’t stick because they’re all noodling at an accelerated pace. I still don’t have a ton else to say about this. I like the big chorus reprise towards the end. It’s a good way to tie the song together and it does sound pretty epic too.

How does this compare to the previous song I listened to then? It’s more interesting, for sure. It’s kind of hard to compare because they really are completely different types of songs, even the slowest tempo this song has is still way more upbeat than that one has. I don’t find this one as hook-driven but there’s a lot more to pick apart in the music. It’s still no Wilderun, mind you – it’s a bit of an overdone mess with all the layers of symphonic swell and doesn’t quite hit that balance of metal-to-symphonic elements that makes stuff in this genre work for me, but I definitely can see why you’d send this one to me, whereas the last one did admittedly leave me a bit baffled. So yeah, it’s better. It’s not blowing me away or anything or making me want to dig into these guys further, but it’s good metal, even if it’s way too long and bloated.

If I had to put it in the rankings for round 3, I’d say it goes right around where Karas is. I really don’t know if I’d put it higher or lower than Karas, they’re a bit too different for me to compare & it doesn’t really matter anyways.

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ariich: 13
Elite: 13
Evermind: 12
Dacul: 12
Nekov: 11
Bolsters: 10
Puppies_On_Acid: 10
Buddyhunter1: 10
Train of Naught: 9
TAC: 9

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #579 on: November 03, 2019, 01:53:30 PM »
Round 3.5 Playlist:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1cECVD9wPECFBJkx4GxMv9
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That's a fair review. I don't think I'd send you straight up symphonic metal, but Wintersun have this interesting mix of black and death metal elements thrown in at times, so I was interested to see what you thought of it (which yeah is absolutely why I chose this song and not the other one). I'm glad you got some enjoyment out of it at least!

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« Reply #580 on: November 03, 2019, 01:58:50 PM »
Round 3.5 Playlist:
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Should have thrown a single Land Of Snow And Sorrow in there around 2/3rds in surrounded by all the Sons Of Winter And Stars's. :lol
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #581 on: November 03, 2019, 10:34:11 PM »
i spent all day listening to music to close up an order so i'm gonna skip out listening tonight; i don't want results up 2 days after i started listening anyways 'cause i want at least a bit more time than that for songs to simmer, tbh

and i have work i need to do tomorrow night so i don't know if i'd have a chance to do all the writeups anyways, but i will at least have time to do another listen & throw comparisons up
results tuesday, then.

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #582 on: November 04, 2019, 05:30:53 AM »
Wow, those first impressions are harsh  :lol

I don’t know why you were worried about this one performing poorly, I dig the heck out of it & this sound in general. Don’t know if it will be necessarily a favorite though but we’ll see.

Hopefully this one is mine.

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Searching for a Dacul!)
« Reply #583 on: November 04, 2019, 08:44:10 AM »
Hangman!

???: _ate __s_ - T_e ___ S__
???: As Ta__ As ___ns - _n _ase __ Rapt_re
???: Scar Symmetry - The Kaleidoscopic God
???: Lost Domain - R_se __ _s__as_
???: Darkspace - Dar_ _1_
???: Ra_et_an_n - ___rent
???: Type O Negative - Love You To Death
???: Winterhorde - Underwatermoon
???: E_s_e_ - Mr M__n
???: _ates T_ T_e M_rn_n_ - __ape_ Per____s

Letters Guessed: ADEMNRST1

ariich waits 3
Nekov waits 2
TAC waits 1
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #584 on: November 04, 2019, 10:13:32 AM »
Winterhorde - Underwatermoon
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #585 on: November 04, 2019, 10:17:18 AM »
Yep.

I feel like in the last two rounds some picks have been influenced by TAC's roulette :P

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #586 on: November 04, 2019, 10:22:05 AM »
Yep.

I feel like in the last two rounds some picks have been influenced by TAC's roulette :P
I mean yeah I sent you both Wintersun at the same time. :lol But I honestly did have them on my list for both of you.

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #587 on: November 04, 2019, 10:22:58 AM »
Pretty sure I baffled this round.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #588 on: November 04, 2019, 10:26:50 AM »
Ariich guess some letters hangmanang is never gonna end at this rate

I may just stop doing hangman if it's gonna consistently not get solved  :lol

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #589 on: November 04, 2019, 10:30:11 AM »
Oh I thought I was still waiting for some reason. It's your fault for doing the silly waiting thing. :P

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #590 on: November 04, 2019, 10:32:19 AM »
I mean... almost everyone does the waiting thing?  :lol

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« Reply #591 on: November 04, 2019, 10:35:55 AM »
I mean... almost everyone does the waiting thing?  :lol
And if everyone jumped off a cliff, would you? :P

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« Reply #592 on: November 04, 2019, 10:37:50 AM »
Just going off of the name, Winterhorde sounds like the bad production / Sacul one :lol
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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #593 on: November 04, 2019, 10:38:33 AM »
Gates to the Morning

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Re: Cyril's Roulette v6 (Round 4 Hangman!)
« Reply #594 on: November 04, 2019, 10:44:10 AM »
Eisley - Mr Moon. Ariich?
Darkspace - Dark 311? I don't know, all of those song names have numbers  :lol
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