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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #560 on: October 11, 2019, 09:55:37 PM »
oh yeah no points for the tiebreaker imo

i honestly don't know why you're not just using the tie as an opportunity to naturally eliminate three people to make up for only eliminating one last round anyways

but being rewarded for coming in last place seems counterproductive  :P

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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #561 on: October 11, 2019, 10:02:35 PM »
I've just always assumed tiebreakers should occur for last place. Huh. Still open to opinions...

Sorry for the confusion. Just trying to be as fair as I can :)
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #562 on: October 11, 2019, 10:16:06 PM »
I think you should give the tiebreaker winner 10 points  :biggrin:
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« Reply #563 on: October 11, 2019, 10:21:21 PM »
whoa - didn't expect that
Winger would be better!

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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #565 on: October 12, 2019, 02:12:38 AM »
Oh and yeah count me among the extra-points-for-the-tiebreak-winner-is-a-weird-idea group.

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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #566 on: October 12, 2019, 03:44:03 AM »
Again, glad you liked it, but wouldn't have said no to more points.  ;)

For more Thunder I would recommend listening to the record where the song comes from, surprisingly titled Laughing On Judgement Days. Imo their best. But those Toto comparisons threw me of a little, don't hear that and that wasn't the reason I sent that song. But yes, Daniel Bowes is a hell of a singer with a very distinctive voice. And he still can bring it 30 years later.

Oh, and don't know about the tie-breaker. If you want to give them points, do it. If I go out in the next round it's not because of those points but because I didn't sent power metal I didn't sent a song good enough for your tastes.

And should we already send for the next round, or do we wait for the tie-breaker results?
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #567 on: October 12, 2019, 04:56:26 AM »
Oh, and don't know about the tie-breaker. If you want to give them points, do it. If I go out in the next round it's not because of those points but because I didn't sent power metal I didn't sent a song good enough for your tastes.

But you could.  Let's say Tim makes it through the tiebreaker.  Let's then say that both you and he kill it and send two of the best songs next round, while Rich and Hath send two of the worst songs.  Tim might eek past you by 1 or 2 points, and thus those bonus points make a difference.

Highly unlikely scenario, but not entirely impossible.
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #568 on: October 12, 2019, 05:23:46 AM »
Oh and yeah count me among the extra-points-for-the-tiebreak-winner-is-a-weird-idea group.

Unless everybody else gets 3 free points as well.

There's a reason these 3 players are last and that's because they didn't score as well as the other. Free points for being in last place seems weird and even a little unfair given your rules.
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #569 on: October 12, 2019, 05:24:42 AM »
Commenting on the results: that went better than I thought it would, glad you liked it! Have you checked out the videoclip as well? I won't spoiler it, but it's good.
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #570 on: October 12, 2019, 05:53:15 AM »
I think extra points for the tiebreaker is a great idea!  ;D
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #571 on: October 12, 2019, 07:20:25 AM »
Okay, I think I agree with y'all. No points for the tiebreaker as it seems to be the general consensus.

You can send for the next round if you'd like while I do the tiebreaker.

The EP, single artist compilation, and concept album rounds will be simply scored out of 10, instead of first place getting 16 etc.

Themed EP: no more than 40 minutes. Don't care if there's intro and outro tracks, interludes etc. but it needs to be themed somehow. I don't care what it's about and it doesn't matter if it's a loosely connected theme but the more obvious the theme the better. This round will have 7 participants, and 1 will be eliminated.

Single artist compilation: no more than 60 minutes, has to come from one artist exclusively, I don't care if there are demos, live tracks, b sides, just has to be one artist. Don't care if there's a theme. 6 participants, 1 will be eliminated.

Concept album: Theme matters here. No more than 80 minutes. Don't care how many or few artists you use or what songs or how you edit but the flow and concept really matter for this one. 5 players, 1 gets crowned champion.
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #572 on: October 12, 2019, 07:27:33 AM »
Commenting on the results: that went better than I thought it would, glad you liked it! Have you checked out the videoclip as well? I won't spoiler it, but it's good.

Ooh i haven't. I'll check it out shortly!
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #573 on: October 12, 2019, 07:29:13 AM »
The EP, single artist compilation, and concept album rounds will be simply scored out of 10, instead of first place getting 16 etc.
Not a criticism, but just to point out that if there's quite a big spread of scores by the time you reach that point, this change will make it harder (maybe impossible) for lower-ranked people to catch up with higher-ranked. Although you might end up with 7 participants having scores quite close together, in which case it wouldn't matter.

Not sure it'll affect me anyway as on current trend I won't get that far. :P

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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #574 on: October 12, 2019, 07:47:29 AM »
I'm gonna "squish" the scores after round 5 to try to avoid that. Like just literally crunch the numbers down.

Games are hard.   :facepalm:
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« Reply #575 on: October 12, 2019, 07:53:12 AM »
I'm gonna "squish" the scores after round 5 to try to avoid that. Like just literally crunch the numbers down.

Games are hard.   :facepalm:

When it's down to 10 players, factor all the remaining players' scores by 1.6, and that would equate/convert their total score into a 10-point scale. Then just use a 10 point stack rank.
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #576 on: October 12, 2019, 08:16:41 AM »
Katt, I kinda feel your pain. I spent three months designing the Ayreon prediction contest and the system still ended up being flawed. :lol

That being said, I need to run something in Polls/Survivors again.
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« Reply #577 on: October 12, 2019, 09:08:16 AM »
I'm gonna "squish" the scores after round 5 to try to avoid that. Like just literally crunch the numbers down.

Games are hard.   :facepalm:

When it's down to 10 players, factor all the remaining players' scores by 1.6, and that would equate/convert their total score into a 10-point scale. Then just use a 10 point stack rank.

I like this! :hifive:

Katt, I kinda feel your pain. I spent three months designing the Ayreon prediction contest and the system still ended up being flawed. :lol

That being said, I need to run something in Polls/Survivors again.

Right?! It's stressful  :lol
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« Reply #578 on: October 12, 2019, 09:28:27 AM »
So round 7 is less of an album round and more of a "greatest hits" round? Hmm. That probably changes who I'd send that round, if I even make it that far.
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #579 on: October 12, 2019, 09:35:42 AM »
So round 7 is less of an album round and more of a "greatest hits" round? Hmm. That probably changes who I'd send that round, if I even make it that far.

I suppose you could call it that, yeah. I just avoided that term because perhaps some people would get the impression I want the artist's most popular or successful tracks, but really, the idea is to show me as much of the band as you want. So let's take Devin Townsend for example, if he wasn't banned, maybe someone would want to create an album where every song shows a different side of him, or maybe they would like to make an album showing off his heaviest songs, etc. Again there doesn't have to be a theme, but the idea of the round is to just show off why you chose that particular artist.
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« Reply #580 on: October 12, 2019, 09:37:00 AM »
Honestly there was one album I really wanted to send for that round but it was a little over 60 minutes, so if I get to that point I might just send you that album minus two songs that I don't care much for, to get it just under an hour. :lol
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« Reply #581 on: October 12, 2019, 09:38:11 AM »
Honestly there was one album I really wanted to send for that round but it was a little over 60 minutes, so if I get to that point I might just send you that album minus two songs that I don't care much for, to get it just under an hour. :lol

You know, that's interesting. I don't recall seeing someone ever doing that, but I'm going to allow it, if you get there. :)
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« Reply #582 on: October 12, 2019, 09:41:47 AM »
I mean Cyril literally sent a band's entire discography as a "greatest hits compilation" for ariich's current roulette, soooo...
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« Reply #583 on: October 12, 2019, 09:50:32 AM »
i have known what i would sent for the greatest hits album this roulette if i do get there, since the very start of the roulette.
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« Reply #584 on: October 12, 2019, 10:58:48 AM »
Expected a little better but I'm glad I could still come out in 4th place. Now time to break the tie :metal

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« Reply #585 on: October 12, 2019, 11:53:30 AM »
Sent something I wished I could send in a normal round but I don't want to get the boot so sent a banger to be safe.

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« Reply #586 on: October 12, 2019, 12:00:05 PM »
Awesome.

Tiebreaker results in the morning because I am going to watch Joker tonight.
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Re: Katt's Roulette 3.0 v. Round 3 Results + Tiebreaker!
« Reply #587 on: October 12, 2019, 12:07:04 PM »
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« Reply #588 on: October 12, 2019, 12:24:45 PM »
I mean Cyril literally sent a band's entire discography as a "greatest hits compilation" for ariich's current roulette, soooo...
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« Reply #589 on: October 12, 2019, 12:26:13 PM »
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« Reply #590 on: October 12, 2019, 02:11:55 PM »
I have a themed EP sort of ready as well, believe it or not.
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« Reply #591 on: October 12, 2019, 03:08:17 PM »
i have a concept in mind for either an EP or an album so we'll see what i end up doing if i get there (which is looking decently likely right now, somehow)

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« Reply #592 on: October 12, 2019, 03:53:04 PM »
I mean Cyril literally sent a band's entire discography as a "greatest hits compilation" for ariich's current roulette, soooo...

This was honestly the most bullshit thing I've seen in roulettes in a while, greatest hits my ass, but since the host was okay with that, who am I to complain about it. :lol
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« Reply #593 on: October 12, 2019, 03:57:13 PM »
I mean Cyril literally sent a band's entire discography as a "greatest hits compilation" for ariich's current roulette, soooo...

This was honestly the most bullshit thing I've seen in roulettes in a while, greatest hits my ass, but since the host was okay with that, who am I to complain about it. :lol
I mean, it was within the rules. It was my fault for not making the rules specific enough. :lol

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« Reply #594 on: October 12, 2019, 04:03:20 PM »
not my fault the band conveniently happened to have almost exactly 70 minutes of music released as of earlier this year