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Re: ariich’s roulette 5.0 – Heroes & Villains (Round 6 spoilers...)
« Reply #1015 on: October 09, 2019, 06:23:34 PM »
I can see all of that, it’s truly beyond me why I don’t like this album..

Rings of Saturn, eh they’re like a meme to me, very technical and some funny goofy shit spread out very rarely, mostly just a bit boring tech death imo. I’m more of a Zenith Passage and Rivers of Nihil kinda guy
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Re: ariich’s roulette 5.0 – Heroes & Villains (Round 6 spoilers...)
« Reply #1016 on: October 09, 2019, 06:24:48 PM »
Oh rings of saturn are a meme in the clone hero community too I love it

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Re: ariich’s roulette 5.0 – Heroes & Villains (Round 6 spoilers...)
« Reply #1017 on: October 09, 2019, 06:27:36 PM »
Hey we should plug soon again, we haven’t exchanged bad music in ages
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« Reply #1018 on: October 09, 2019, 06:28:36 PM »
Hey we should plug soon again, we haven’t exchanged bad music in ages (I only have with ariich)
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Re: ariich’s roulette 5.0 – Heroes & Villains (Round 6 spoilers...)
« Reply #1019 on: October 09, 2019, 06:29:50 PM »
Hey we should plug soon again, we haven’t exchanged bad music in ages
We've been pluggin fairly often over the last couple months.
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« Reply #1020 on: October 09, 2019, 06:47:39 PM »
Yeah! I played some garbage and everyone else played real music

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Re: ariich’s roulette 5.0 – Heroes & Villains (Round 6 spoilers...)
« Reply #1021 on: October 10, 2019, 12:40:01 AM »
holy sweet jesus while i was going through stuff for my concept album i just noticed a shocking hole in the banned list that i am now immediately filling

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Re: ariich’s roulette 5.0 – Heroes & Villains (Round 6 spoilers...)
« Reply #1022 on: October 10, 2019, 01:37:52 AM »
holy sweet jesus while i was going through stuff for my concept album i just noticed a shocking hole in the banned list that i am now immediately filling
I don't know if I should be excited or terrified.

If anyone else knows what they want to send for round 7 and doesn't need to wait for the round 6 results, feel free to go ahead and send early and I can make a start on listening more quickly.

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« Reply #1023 on: October 10, 2019, 01:42:51 AM »
i feel like it's probably the "safest" pick i've sent so far but eehh who cares when it's real good
i can't find the thoughts of puppies, luoto, or tomi regarding it unfortunately but based on what i know/what i've found i'd think all of them would/do like it too  :corn

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« Reply #1024 on: October 10, 2019, 08:53:12 AM »
ROUND 6 RESULTS

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Tomi
Paradise Lost – Draconian Times (1995)

First impression: Probably the strongest of the round on first listen, but I’m also not sure it has much scope to grow on me like some of the others do.

Final opinion: Yeah so this has managed to hold out as the strongest of the round, and actually it did grow on me a little too. You're a bit lucky here because in a stronger round this might have ranked fairly low, as despite being a LOT more interesting than what I've heard from Paradise Lost before, it still doesn't grab me enough to warrant an 8/10. But it's very solid and the round winner so let's focus on the positives. A lot of goth rock I've heard doesn't really do it for me, as I often find it hard to feel the vibe it's going for, but this does a good job. There's a real 90s moodiness to it that feels convincing to me and I enjoyed right from my first listen. What I've appreciated more on subsequent listens is the crunchiness of it too - it's not especially heavy but there are some very cool moments that remind me of what Metallica were doing in the late 80s and early 90s. This is definitely helped by the vocals which are strong and hold everything together. All in all, not your best submission but enough to score you 10 points!
Rating: 7.5/10
Score: 10 points

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Cyril
Warforged – I: Voice (2019)

First impression: This might be a bit too much, but then there’s something intriguing about it. Didn’t love my first listen at all but can potentially see it being a grower.

Final opinion: Congrats on finally breaking out of the 7.5-8.5 range, but it was very very close and you still came second in the round. :lol This album is definitely a grower, in that it takes a number of listens to bring out some of the nuances and highlights. But it's still a pretty relentless album, which isn't helped by its length. The reason I've ranked it higher than the other 7s, and that it really did come close to yet another 7.5, is simply how high quality everything is. The production and performance is so impressive for a death metal debut, very tight and clear other than the craziest moments (which is fair enough). And I was right to say that it's intriguing. It feels very coherent as an album, and there are just enough respites from the heaviness to keep it listenable, helped particularly by the last few songs being more balanced and also some of the strongest material, along with Cellar. The heaviness I can cope with - as you noted, I liked Slice the Cake a lot - the thing I find too overbearing is the tonal (or perhaps better to say atonal) relentlessness. There are so few melodic moments and even those are quite discordant. So I don't love this album, but I find it really interesting and am glad to have expanded my musical horizons with it.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 8.5 points

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Luoto
Kingston Wall – III: Tri-Logy (1994)

First impression: Not bad, and there’s some really good stuff, but also some not so interesting stuff, and it maybe drags a bit.

Final opinion: Even if you'd not mentioned Kie doing the artwork for this, I'd have noticed that these guys were an influence on Von Hertzen Brothers (who, as you know, I love). I think the aspects I like most about this are those same influences. Punchy prog that isn't particularly indulgent and has no particular sense of virtuoso, but is quite quirky and fun and dynamic and melodic. The biggest missing ingredient is VHB's wonderful and heart-breaking vocal melodies and harmonies. But beyond that, I also don't find the music as consistently interesting, and indeed some of it I find actively irritating (Stuldt Håjt, just, urgh… and why is it 9 minutes!). It's a shame because if this album was just trimmed down to the strongest, say, 50 minutes, I could have really liked it a lot. As it is, it's just too inconsistent and ends up dragging quite a bit, despite the epic closer having so much great material.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 7 points

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Puppies
Laster – Het Wassen Oog (2019)

First impression: Interesting mix of different ideas, but not sure it does any of them all that well.

Final opinion: I've had a very weird and inconsistent experience with this album. First listen I thought it was OK but not great. Second listen I thought, hey maybe this is pretty cool. Listen three was wait no, this sucks. Fourth listen was back to my original view. I like the mix of styles, and there are some very good moments, but I feel like it doesn't excel at anything. You said it's rooted in atmospheric black metal, and I can hear that, except that hardly any of it is atmospheric at all really. There's definitely jazzy avant-garde influences, but the jazz harmonies don't quite gel with the metal for the most part, and it's not really that quirky or weird. I'm glad I gave the albums in this round an extra listen to help me make decisions - this could have been ranked and rated lower at one stage - but I've come around to the opener and especially the last few minutes of the closer, as well as some of the other grander moments that make the listen fairly enjoyable.
Rating: 7/10
Score: 5.5 points

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Clortho
Warrior Soul – Last Decade Dead Century (1990)

First impression: Feels like it could be one of those quintessential 7/10 albums. All sounded solid enough, but nothing excited me at all.

Final opinion: You seem determined to retain your title as most inconsistent. Clearly we share very similar tastes in some areas but not others. Not that I dislike this or anything, it's quite enjoyable in a rock n roll kind of way, it's just not really my thing. To be honest, I'm not sure I have much to say because, unlike some albums where I have a mix of strong positive and negative reactions that are in tension with each other and fighting for dominance, here I have very little reaction of any kind. I just feel like, although it's fairly enjoyable, it's not fun enough to make up for what feels like me like a lack of substance. Entirely possible that's not a fair assessment, it's just what I get from it. As a result, this was the only album of the round that, if anything, ungrew on me with further listens.
Rating: 6.5/10
Score: 4 points

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Scores after Round 6:
1. (=) Luoto   = 7.0 + 7.0 + 11.0 + 10.5 + 10.0 + 7.0 = 52.5
2. (^) Tomi     = 7.5 + 5.5 + 8.0 + 11.0 + 6.5 + 10.0 = 48.5
3. (^) Cyril     = 9.0 + 6.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 + 7.5 + 8.5 = 46.0
4=(v) Clortho  = 12.0 + 10.5 + 4.0 + 4.5 + 9.5 + 4.0 = 44.5
4=(v) Puppies = 4.0 + 11.0 + 9.5 + 6.0 + 8.5 + 5.5 = 44.5

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Re: ariich’s roulette 5.0 – Heroes & Villains (Round 6 RESULTS)
« Reply #1025 on: October 10, 2019, 09:04:06 AM »
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« Reply #1026 on: October 10, 2019, 09:32:38 AM »
Well at least I'm still wildly inconsistent.

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« Reply #1027 on: October 10, 2019, 09:45:45 AM »
Wow I did not expect that. I would like to thank everyone for sending some of your worst submissions :lol
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« Reply #1028 on: October 10, 2019, 09:57:57 AM »
Wow I did not expect that. I would like to thank everyone for sending some of your worst submissions :lol
It was such a weird round. :lol It wasn't terrible, it was just much weaker than usual. Average score of 7.0. In the previous two and a half album roulettes I've done, the joint lowest average score for a round had been 7.4.

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« Reply #1029 on: October 10, 2019, 09:59:45 AM »
Y'all we have a responsibility to get the highest average score of any round in ariich's roulettes this time

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« Reply #1030 on: October 10, 2019, 11:27:23 AM »
Wow I did not expect that. I would like to thank everyone for sending some of your worst submissions :lol
It was such a weird round. :lol It wasn't terrible, it was just much weaker than usual. Average score of 7.0. In the previous two and a half album roulettes I've done, the joint lowest average score for a round had been 7.4.

Serves you right for eliminating Lucases and Train and Elite and me and whoever else was there. :biggrin:

Although I would've probably sent Jethro Tull for Round 6, so not sure how that would've fared.
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« Reply #1031 on: October 10, 2019, 12:05:26 PM »
Y'all we have a responsibility to get the highest average score of any round in ariich's roulettes this time
I approve of this message. The joint highest average is 8.3 so you'll need to really up your game.

This is the last regular album round though, so last real chance!

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« Reply #1032 on: October 10, 2019, 01:22:29 PM »
Although I would've probably sent Jethro Tull for Round 6, so not sure how that would've fared.
Definitely recommend me a Jethro Tull album that I've not rated and I'll be happy to check it out post-roulette.

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« Reply #1033 on: October 10, 2019, 02:06:02 PM »
I love how the previous average range was 7.4 to 8.3
Makes me think of 7.5 to 8.5. But Worse
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« Reply #1034 on: October 10, 2019, 02:17:20 PM »
I love how the previous average range was 7.4 to 8.
Makes me think of 7.5 to 8.5. But Worse
7.4 to 8.3. But yes it was technically a narrower range than you had (and still is, I guess).

But you'd expect that from averages as there's normally a range of ratings in any given round.

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« Reply #1035 on: October 10, 2019, 02:18:25 PM »
I typed 8.3 but it got lost somehow ok

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Re: ariich’s roulette 5.0 – Heroes & Villains (Round 6 RESULTS)
« Reply #1036 on: October 10, 2019, 02:30:52 PM »
Average rating from all of my album roulettes: 7.75
Cyril/Parama average rating from my roulettes: 7.72

Technically you are very, very slightly below average. :lol

But you have two more rounds to change that...

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« Reply #1037 on: October 10, 2019, 02:35:35 PM »
2 more rounds to go way, way below the average  :metal

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« Reply #1038 on: October 10, 2019, 02:45:00 PM »
:lol

Actually those stats aren't really correct as they include post-roulette submissions, where you and others tend to send some riskier stuff.

For actual roulette rounds only:

Everyone average: 7.80
Cyril/Parama average: 7.89

Congrats, you're above average! But don't worry, you've still got those two rounds to ruin it all.

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« Reply #1039 on: October 10, 2019, 02:54:54 PM »
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« Reply #1040 on: October 10, 2019, 06:07:16 PM »
Oh boy. I don't know what to send now. Hmm. :corn
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« Reply #1041 on: October 10, 2019, 06:09:33 PM »
Portal

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« Reply #1042 on: October 10, 2019, 06:13:49 PM »
Portal
Jeez, if he though Warforged was relentless, I can't imagine how he would take Portal.  :lol
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« Reply #1043 on: October 10, 2019, 06:17:57 PM »
Yeah, that's why Luoto should send them :vomitard:

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« Reply #1044 on: October 10, 2019, 07:15:03 PM »
I should send like Manowar or Night Ranger
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« Reply #1045 on: October 10, 2019, 07:15:38 PM »
I've sent. Not sure how it will go over. I really like it though. I'm guessing it won't be in the middle of the pack though.

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« Reply #1046 on: October 10, 2019, 07:58:58 PM »
I just found an obvious hole that I need to fill.

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« Reply #1047 on: October 10, 2019, 08:06:32 PM »
I hope it's the same one I already filled

ariich, is the 70 minute limit on the concept album a hard cap? I have a concept basically settled on but it's sitting at about 72 minutes right now and i don't think even my editing magic skills can cut that down to 70  :lol

the warforged and midnight odyssey albums i sent you were longer anyways so you gotta give me this one :P

edit; first draft is at 1:11:42 and it's basically impossible to cut down further without just cutting out entire parts of songs haha
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« Reply #1048 on: October 10, 2019, 09:43:41 PM »
I hope it's the same one I already filled

ariich, is the 70 minute limit on the concept album a hard cap? I have a concept basically settled on but it's sitting at about 72 minutes right now and i don't think even my editing magic skills can cut that down to 70  :lol

the warforged and midnight odyssey albums i sent you were longer anyways so you gotta give me this one :P

edit; first draft is at 1:11:42 and it's basically impossible to cut down further without just cutting out entire parts of songs haha
Mine actually ended up exactly 70 minutes after I edited it, which was by pure accident.


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Re: ariich’s roulette 5.0 – Heroes & Villains (Round 6 RESULTS)
« Reply #1049 on: October 11, 2019, 02:30:53 PM »
Sorry about the delayed reply, was at a wedding all day today.

I'm pretty relaxed about enforcing rules and don't want to be too strict. So the length of yours seems fine Cyril, I won't penalise it. Same to everyone else, if getting it right means going slightly over, that's not a problem.

For round 7, I've got four out of five submissions in now, have listened to two of them, and it's already stronger than the last round. :tup

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