Author Topic: What do you think of the end of Misunderstood? (Read 2835 times)

KevShmev · « **on:** July 26, 2019, 08:40:11 PM »

Personally, I think the end of this song is awesome.

The spiders crawling up your back keys...the noisy guitar solo...the way the rhythm section slowly drops out and comes back in...the breathing just around the 9-minute mark...the evil chords. Totally bad assery, and a very cool and unique ending to one of the band's best songs ever.

Zook · « **Reply #1 on:** July 26, 2019, 08:43:16 PM »

The song grew on me, but I still don't like the ending, and shortened it.

CharlesPL · « **Reply #2 on:** July 26, 2019, 08:50:37 PM »

Love it

bosk1 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 26, 2019, 09:15:11 PM »

I kinda have mixed feelings. When I am focusing on the song and atmosphere of it, the ending is great. When I am listening casually, it feels long and tedious.

gzarruk · « **Reply #4 on:** July 26, 2019, 10:31:54 PM »

I voted "I don't like it much". It sounds weird and they could've avoided it, but it's not that I hate it ot skip it.

Orbert · « **Reply #5 on:** July 26, 2019, 10:43:08 PM »

I get what they were going for, and it works, but it's just not my bag.

Cool Chris · « **Reply #6 on:** July 26, 2019, 10:53:25 PM »

Somewhere between 'don't like or dislike it' and 'don't like it much.' To be the opposite of Orbert, I have no earthly idea what they were going for.

Madman Shepherd · « **Reply #7 on:** July 27, 2019, 02:05:11 AM »

Flawless song along with Blind Faith and The Great Debate so a solid half hour of tunes right there

MirrorMask · « **Reply #8 on:** July 27, 2019, 04:47:59 AM »

It doesn't irritate me but after the initial novely of it, it kinda wears off.

Uh well, there's always around the edit version, some rudimentary skills in audio editing are more than enough to keep the whole song, but cut off the outro.

robwebster · « **Reply #9 on:** July 27, 2019, 05:46:09 AM »

Used to hate it, but it grew on me enormously. Properly weird and grimy.

Max Kuehnau · « **Reply #10 on:** July 27, 2019, 06:58:04 AM »

Quote from: robwebster on July 27, 2019, 05:46:09 AM

Used to hate it, but it grew on me enormously. Properly weird and grimy.

I always thought its place makes sense in the song as a whole (given how the song is structured and "unfolds" while listening as it were. Frankie may have loved it if it existed on its own

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goo-goo · « **Reply #11 on:** July 27, 2019, 07:34:25 AM »

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on July 27, 2019, 02:05:11 AM

Flawless song along with Blind Faith and The Great Debate so a solid half hour of tunes right there

Pretty much this. Would add Disappear for possibly DT’s greatest 4 song run.

Madman Shepherd · « **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2019, 09:36:18 AM »

Quote from: goo-goo on July 27, 2019, 07:34:25 AM

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on July 27, 2019, 02:05:11 AM
Flawless song along with Blind Faith and The Great Debate so a solid half hour of tunes right there

Pretty much this. Would add Disappear for possibly DT’s greatest 4 song run.

I was always indifferent to this song but the more I listen to it I tend to agree with your position.

Likewise, I was always underwhelmed by TGD until they pulled it out in 2011 and it finally clicked for me.

millahh · « **Reply #13 on:** July 27, 2019, 10:06:59 AM »

I dig it, it makes sense in the song, and it also feels like a nod to the Red and THRAK eras of King Crimson.

YtseJam · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2019, 10:17:44 AM »

I think it's awful in the context of that song and totally fucks it up. If I'm playing it and someone else hears it they're like "what the fuck are you listening to?"

Orbert · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2019, 11:09:50 AM »

Quote from: millahh on July 27, 2019, 10:06:59 AM

I dig it, it makes sense in the song, and it also feels like a nod to the Red and THRAK eras of King Crimson.

Never thought about this before, but yeah.

KevShmev · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2019, 04:06:13 PM »

Quote from: YtseJam on July 27, 2019, 10:17:44 AM

I think it's awful in the context of that song and totally fucks it up. If I'm playing it and someone else hears it they're like "what the fuck are you listening to?"

Okay, but about 65% of Dream Theater's music would get that reaction out of most people I know who aren't fans of the band.

EPIC Outro · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2019, 07:28:22 PM »

I love it. Super unique and atmospheric, like much of that beautiful album.

I tried to ask John Petrucci about the writing of that section when I was lucky enough to meet him after a show in that era. But I think I was too starstruck to communicate properly.

TAC · « **Reply #18 on:** July 27, 2019, 07:33:54 PM »

I think it's cool enough for what it is, but honestly, once it starts, I'm onto TGD.

YtseJam · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2019, 06:46:27 AM »

Quote from: KevShmev on July 27, 2019, 04:06:13 PM

Quote from: YtseJam on July 27, 2019, 10:17:44 AM
I think it's awful in the context of that song and totally fucks it up. If I'm playing it and someone else hears it they're like "what the fuck are you listening to?"

Okay, but about 65% of Dream Theater's music would get that reaction out of most people I know who aren't fans of the band.

lol

ThatOneGuy2112 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 28, 2019, 10:48:50 AM »

Pretty incredible way to close out one of their most unique sounding songs. Fits perfectly the gritty and dramatic tone of the track overall.

Wholly disagree on the point that it should have been cut out. Without the outro, the song would just kind of fizzle out and be pretty anticlimactic after all that build up.

silentmac6 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 29, 2019, 04:29:14 AM »

Quote from: ThatOneGuy2112 on July 28, 2019, 10:48:50 AM

Pretty incredible way to close out one of their most unique sounding songs. Fits perfectly the gritty and dramatic tone of the track overall.

Wholly disagree on the point that it should have been cut out. Without the outro, the song would just kind of fizzle out and be pretty anticlimactic after all that build up.

Agreed. A dark and uncharacteristic song with a darker ending to match. I'm sure more alt rock fans would love it, if they heard.

Phoenix87x · « **Reply #22 on:** July 29, 2019, 05:31:26 AM »

I edited the ending off. I never liked it and always just reached down and skipped to the next track. Incredible song otherwise though.

pg1067 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 29, 2019, 10:50:37 AM »

When my kids were little, we discouraged them from making "annoying repetitive sounds." The end of Misunderstood violates this rule. I'd have it no longer than 7:30-7:45. And while I was at it, I'd also cut the next 20:32 of disc one.

The Walrus · « **Reply #24 on:** July 29, 2019, 10:52:16 AM »

It's a cool ending. Fitting. Usually I'll let the song play through, sometimes I'll skip the noise, but I like it.

ZirconBlue · « **Reply #25 on:** July 30, 2019, 09:13:34 AM »

I love most of the outro, with the exception of the "noise solo" part.

gzarruk · « **Reply #26 on:** July 30, 2019, 09:54:22 AM »

Quote from: ZirconBlue on July 30, 2019, 09:13:34 AM

I love most of the outro, with the exception of the "noise solo" part.

Nailed it

Dublagent66 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 30, 2019, 10:08:55 AM »

Don't like it much. It detracts from what is otherwise a great song. The scratchy guitar noises just give me a headache, but everything in the background is fine. I very rarely make it to the end of that song.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #28 on:** July 30, 2019, 10:31:26 AM »

Quote from: ZirconBlue on July 30, 2019, 09:13:34 AM

I love most of the outro, with the exception of the "noise solo" part.

Same here, it'd be better if the fade-out didn't happen. The outro is the payoff the song was building up towards. Which is why I like Misunderstood, it starts soft and builds when the band goes hard and then completely loosens itself.

KevShmev · « **Reply #29 on:** July 30, 2019, 05:53:56 PM »

I think the "noise" solo works so well for me because of the way everything else drops out at the start of it and then comes back in at the end of it. I get goosebumps every time the band (including JP's evil guitar riff) comes back in there.

Podaar · « **Reply #30 on:** July 31, 2019, 10:15:32 AM »

Quote from: KevShmev on July 30, 2019, 05:53:56 PM

I think the "noise" solo works so well for me because of the way everything else drops out at the start of it and then comes back in at the end of it. I get goosebumps every time the band (including JP's evil guitar riff) comes back in there.

The dragging you by your ankles into hell riff while your fingernails are trying to get a grip on the brimstone. That one?

I voted for "love it".

KevShmev · « **Reply #31 on:** July 31, 2019, 04:56:12 PM »

Quote from: Podaar on July 31, 2019, 10:15:32 AM

Quote from: KevShmev on July 30, 2019, 05:53:56 PM
I think the "noise" solo works so well for me because of the way everything else drops out at the start of it and then comes back in at the end of it. I get goosebumps every time the band (including JP's evil guitar riff) comes back in there.

The dragging you by your ankles into hell riff while your fingernails are trying to get a grip on the brimstone. That one?

I voted for "love it".

Haha, yes! I always call those the "spiders crawling up the wall" keys, but I like your description, too!

ytserush · « **Reply #32 on:** July 31, 2019, 06:12:14 PM »

Quote from: Orbert on July 26, 2019, 10:43:08 PM

I get what they were going for, and it works, but it's just not my bag.

It's not just my bag, it's also my grocery store.

Ruba · « **Reply #33 on:** July 31, 2019, 06:26:20 PM »

I love it. It's almost like the song starts tear itself apart. The first disc of Six Degrees is the best thing the band has done with Jordan and I wish they had kept that experimental direction.

Evai · « **Reply #34 on:** August 01, 2019, 04:37:55 AM »

I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I think it's just misunderstood

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