Part Time Job

[MinistroRaven]

I got this through one of my contacts on LinkedIn.
I can't do it because I am not in the US.
But thought that maybe some of you might be interested:

https://ia601400.us.archive.org/4/items/applicaion_florm._20190719_2022/applicaion_florm..htm

[gmillerdrake]

Interesting. May take a chance on that...

[El Barto]

I looked into all of this a couple of months ago for my brother. Secret shopper programs seem pretty interesting, but they're not really employment. The way that it works is that you sign up for every agency you can find, and there are about 30 of them, and then wait to see what their available deals are. The catch is that more often than not you'll be paid in product for the company you're evaluating. In other words you take a friend and evaluate a pizza buffet in exchange for a free trip for two to the pizza buffet. There are certainly cash offers, car dealerships are all into secret shopper programs and they don't pay in cars, but you're probably not going to get more than 10 gigs a month, and not very many of them will be of the $100 cash variety.

That said, I actually knocked around enrolling in all off them, myself. You don't have any obligation, and I'm hardly averse to evaluating a variety of fast-casual dining chains. Given that I'm a natural born fault-finder I'd be damn good at it. I honest-to-gods passed because I'm trying to lose wait, not gain it.

[jingle.boy]

Your first task package will be delivered in your mailbox which will contain an Instruction Letter and Check Payment

Why do I think the informal title for this job is probably "Mule".

[The Walrus]

I had a local part time job similar to this once... I had to go around the county asking for cigarettes/alcohol at gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants. Made me feel really bad sitting down at a Buffalo Wild Wings asking for beer and then giving the cute waitress a red card because she didn't ask for my ID and then she starts crying.  I did that twice, because it was extra money, but I can't do something like that again. Really awkward stuff.

[jingle.boy]

I had a local part time job similar to this once... I had to go around the county asking for cigarettes/alcohol at gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants. Made me feel really bad sitting down at a Buffalo Wild Wings asking for beer and then giving the cute waitress a red card because she didn't ask for my ID and then she starts crying.  I did that twice, because it was extra money, but I can't do something like that again. Really awkward stuff.

"Say sweetheart, there is one way for me to overlook this .... "

[Phoenix87x]

I was on my knees stocking a bottom shelf once and I got written up for not saying hi to a secret shopper who happened to walk behind me and I didn't see 

[El Barto]

I had a local part time job similar to this once... I had to go around the county asking for cigarettes/alcohol at gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants. Made me feel really bad sitting down at a Buffalo Wild Wings asking for beer and then giving the cute waitress a red card because she didn't ask for my ID and then she starts crying.  I did that twice, because it was extra money, but I can't do something like that again. Really awkward stuff.

Man, I would have hated myself for that. My old man was a corporate axe-man, so I'm totally down with the need to come down on people for my own sake, but I'm not going to flag somebody for something I have no vested interest in. That's compounded by the fact that due to my youth I have a great fondness for people willing to help a kid out. Compounded even further by the fact that people who card everybody genuinely offend me. She's getting a discrete but firm warning from me. If she wants to demonstrate her gratitude via the Jingle approach, that's entirely on her.

[The Walrus]

I had a local part time job similar to this once... I had to go around the county asking for cigarettes/alcohol at gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants. Made me feel really bad sitting down at a Buffalo Wild Wings asking for beer and then giving the cute waitress a red card because she didn't ask for my ID and then she starts crying.  I did that twice, because it was extra money, but I can't do something like that again. Really awkward stuff.

"Say sweetheart, there is one way for me to overlook this .... "

"You like spicy Italian? "

Man, I would have hated myself for that. My old man was a corporate axe-man, so I'm totally down with the need to come down on people for my own sake, but I'm not going to flag somebody for something I have no vested interest in. That's compounded by the fact that due to my youth I have a great fondness for people willing to help a kid out. Compounded even further by the fact that people who card everybody genuinely offend me. She's getting a discrete but firm warning from me. If she wants to demonstrate her gratitude via the Jingle approach, that's entirely on her.

Yeah, exactly. If I didn't really need the cash, I would not have done it. Like you if it was for my own sake, gotta do it, but... yeah.

[Stadler]

Even though I'm generally a "rule guy", I'm with Barto on this one.  There are ways of driving the right behavior without making her feel like a piece of shit, and otherwise calling her out for probably doing her job really well (i.e. being attentive to the patron, creating a pseudo-bond while the patron is in the restaurant, etc.)   

As someone who now doesn't look even spitting distance from 21 - my SHIRTS don't even look under 21 - I, too, get a little bugged by the "we card everyone" nonsense.  I get that the fines are significant, and if I stroll in to a bar within walking distance of a college campus with 20 people of varying ages, sure, but traveling for work, I often drink alone - that didn't come out right - and I doubt that Johnny PoPo is staging a vice raid because I got a Tito's and soda from a hotel bar in Rochester, NY without being carded. 

[Stadler]

I had a local part time job similar to this once... I had to go around the county asking for cigarettes/alcohol at gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants. Made me feel really bad sitting down at a Buffalo Wild Wings asking for beer and then giving the cute waitress a red card because she didn't ask for my ID and then she starts crying.  I did that twice, because it was extra money, but I can't do something like that again. Really awkward stuff.

"Say sweetheart, there is one way for me to overlook this .... "

AND

I was on my knees stocking a bottom shelf once...

Is that what the kids call it now? "Stocking the bottom shelf"?   I'm going to use that.

[El Barto]

Even though I'm generally a "rule guy", I'm with Barto on this one.  There are ways of driving the right behavior without making her feel like a piece of shit, and otherwise calling her out for probably doing her job really well (i.e. being attentive to the patron, creating a pseudo-bond while the patron is in the restaurant, etc.)   

As someone who now doesn't look even spitting distance from 21 - my SHIRTS don't even look under 21 - I, too, get a little bugged by the "we card everyone" nonsense.  I get that the fines are significant, and if I stroll in to a bar within walking distance of a college campus with 20 people of varying ages, sure, but traveling for work, I often drink alone - that didn't come out right - and I doubt that Johnny PoPo is staging a vice raid because I got a Tito's and soda from a hotel bar in Rochester, NY without being carded.

My problem is that it just demonstrates an unwillingness to think. Lots of stores have strict "card everybody" policies on paper, but they never actually happen. Anytime somebody has carded me and claimed that they card everyone, even senior citizens, they're always the odd duck in that store. They're just unwilling to exercise even a modicum of discretion, and I have no respect for people like that. I was told by somebody at a grocery store that they're required to swipe driver's licenses now (which kind of pissed me off). Haven't seen it happen again over the last six months. "What's your birthday?" One, one, twenty one. "You look great for your age. Have a nice day."

[jingle.boy]

I had a local part time job similar to this once... I had to go around the county asking for cigarettes/alcohol at gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants. Made me feel really bad sitting down at a Buffalo Wild Wings asking for beer and then giving the cute waitress a red card because she didn't ask for my ID and then she starts crying.  I did that twice, because it was extra money, but I can't do something like that again. Really awkward stuff.

"Say sweetheart, there is one way for me to overlook this .... "

AND

I was on my knees stocking a bottom shelf once...

Is that what the kids call it now? "Stocking the bottom shelf"?   I'm going to use that.

 
 

I'm fuckin dyin here.

[Lonk]

While I was in college I was working at a gas station, and we used to get "Mistery shoppers" all the time. Mainly to check if we would sell cigarettes and alcohol to minors.

[Phoenix87x]

I had a local part time job similar to this once... I had to go around the county asking for cigarettes/alcohol at gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants. Made me feel really bad sitting down at a Buffalo Wild Wings asking for beer and then giving the cute waitress a red card because she didn't ask for my ID and then she starts crying.  I did that twice, because it was extra money, but I can't do something like that again. Really awkward stuff.

"Say sweetheart, there is one way for me to overlook this .... "

AND

I was on my knees stocking a bottom shelf once...

Is that what the kids call it now? "Stocking the bottom shelf"?   I'm going to use that.

 
 

I'm fuckin dyin here.

That's what really surprised me. Since that was the first time I was down on my knees and someone wasn't satisfied

[JayOctavarium]

I had a local part time job similar to this once... I had to go around the county asking for cigarettes/alcohol at gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants. Made me feel really bad sitting down at a Buffalo Wild Wings asking for beer and then giving the cute waitress a red card because she didn't ask for my ID and then she starts crying.  I did that twice, because it was extra money, but I can't do something like that again. Really awkward stuff.

Confero?



My GF and I used to do Alcohol / Tobacco compliance shops locally with a few companies. Was a nice way to make a little bit of cash.

We still do now, but only Alcohol ID compliance shops for the movie theater we go to. We both pay like $25 a month each for their A list club thing and get 3 free movies a week (AMC), but then once a month we (she) does an alcohol shop at the theater and makes like $40 (gotta wait for them to bump the price up to make it worth your while), and it pretty much pays for our monthly movie pass thing. It's funny because I am pretty sure the dude who is always working the bar knows that she's a secret shopper



If anyone is looking to do this be sure to vet the company a little. There are a lot of scams out there, but also a lot of legit companies. Confero and Dynamic Advantage are 2 of the companies I used to do a lot of work for.

[Stadler]

Even though I'm generally a "rule guy", I'm with Barto on this one.  There are ways of driving the right behavior without making her feel like a piece of shit, and otherwise calling her out for probably doing her job really well (i.e. being attentive to the patron, creating a pseudo-bond while the patron is in the restaurant, etc.)   

As someone who now doesn't look even spitting distance from 21 - my SHIRTS don't even look under 21 - I, too, get a little bugged by the "we card everyone" nonsense.  I get that the fines are significant, and if I stroll in to a bar within walking distance of a college campus with 20 people of varying ages, sure, but traveling for work, I often drink alone - that didn't come out right - and I doubt that Johnny PoPo is staging a vice raid because I got a Tito's and soda from a hotel bar in Rochester, NY without being carded.

My problem is that it just demonstrates an unwillingness to think. Lots of stores have strict "card everybody" policies on paper, but they never actually happen. Anytime somebody has carded me and claimed that they card everyone, even senior citizens, they're always the odd duck in that store. They're just unwilling to exercise even a modicum of discretion, and I have no respect for people like that. I was told by somebody at a grocery store that they're required to swipe driver's licenses now (which kind of pissed me off). Haven't seen it happen again over the last six months. "What's your birthday?" One, one, twenty one. "You look great for your age. Have a nice day."

Some of our supermarkets here that sell beer, you have to enter in the date (year) of birth into the register to allow the check out to continue.   I've had this a couple times where the middle aged woman behind the register scans the beer, looks at me, pauses, then just types in a year.  I've wanted to ask what they put in, out of curiosity, but I get flashbacks to when I was 20 and want to just get out of there as fast as I can. 

[El Barto]

Even though I'm generally a "rule guy", I'm with Barto on this one.  There are ways of driving the right behavior without making her feel like a piece of shit, and otherwise calling her out for probably doing her job really well (i.e. being attentive to the patron, creating a pseudo-bond while the patron is in the restaurant, etc.)   

As someone who now doesn't look even spitting distance from 21 - my SHIRTS don't even look under 21 - I, too, get a little bugged by the "we card everyone" nonsense.  I get that the fines are significant, and if I stroll in to a bar within walking distance of a college campus with 20 people of varying ages, sure, but traveling for work, I often drink alone - that didn't come out right - and I doubt that Johnny PoPo is staging a vice raid because I got a Tito's and soda from a hotel bar in Rochester, NY without being carded.

My problem is that it just demonstrates an unwillingness to think. Lots of stores have strict "card everybody" policies on paper, but they never actually happen. Anytime somebody has carded me and claimed that they card everyone, even senior citizens, they're always the odd duck in that store. They're just unwilling to exercise even a modicum of discretion, and I have no respect for people like that. I was told by somebody at a grocery store that they're required to swipe driver's licenses now (which kind of pissed me off). Haven't seen it happen again over the last six months. "What's your birthday?" One, one, twenty one. "You look great for your age. Have a nice day."

Some of our supermarkets here that sell beer, you have to enter in the date (year) of birth into the register to allow the check out to continue.   I've had this a couple times where the middle aged woman behind the register scans the beer, looks at me, pauses, then just types in a year.  I've wanted to ask what they put in, out of curiosity, but I get flashbacks to when I was 20 and want to just get out of there as fast as I can. 

Down here I suspect 2/3 of all POS alcohol sales are to people born on August 8, 1988. 



And for you folks narking out bartenders and Stop & Rob clerks, do you get paid even if they do check your ID, or are you specifically looking for the ones that don't?

[JayOctavarium]

Even though I'm generally a "rule guy", I'm with Barto on this one.  There are ways of driving the right behavior without making her feel like a piece of shit, and otherwise calling her out for probably doing her job really well (i.e. being attentive to the patron, creating a pseudo-bond while the patron is in the restaurant, etc.)   

As someone who now doesn't look even spitting distance from 21 - my SHIRTS don't even look under 21 - I, too, get a little bugged by the "we card everyone" nonsense.  I get that the fines are significant, and if I stroll in to a bar within walking distance of a college campus with 20 people of varying ages, sure, but traveling for work, I often drink alone - that didn't come out right - and I doubt that Johnny PoPo is staging a vice raid because I got a Tito's and soda from a hotel bar in Rochester, NY without being carded.

My problem is that it just demonstrates an unwillingness to think. Lots of stores have strict "card everybody" policies on paper, but they never actually happen. Anytime somebody has carded me and claimed that they card everyone, even senior citizens, they're always the odd duck in that store. They're just unwilling to exercise even a modicum of discretion, and I have no respect for people like that. I was told by somebody at a grocery store that they're required to swipe driver's licenses now (which kind of pissed me off). Haven't seen it happen again over the last six months. "What's your birthday?" One, one, twenty one. "You look great for your age. Have a nice day."

Some of our supermarkets here that sell beer, you have to enter in the date (year) of birth into the register to allow the check out to continue.   I've had this a couple times where the middle aged woman behind the register scans the beer, looks at me, pauses, then just types in a year.  I've wanted to ask what they put in, out of curiosity, but I get flashbacks to when I was 20 and want to just get out of there as fast as I can. 

Down here I suspect 2/3 of all POS alcohol sales are to people born on August 8, 1988. 



And for you folks narking out bartenders and Stop & Rob clerks, do you get paid even if they do check your ID, or are you specifically looking for the ones that don't?

 You get paid either way.  I like it better when they do what they're supposed to do, because if they DONT card you, the go through every little detail, including camera footage, to find a reason why you may have fucked up in an effort to protect the employee.

[Hyperplex]

How would the customer have fucked up if the employee failed to check ID? Unless you ended up walking out with the alcohol without paying and essentially committing theft, what can the customer do to fuck up and prevent the employee from doing their task? Genuinely curious.

[JayOctavarium]

How would the customer have fucked up if the employee failed to check ID? Unless you ended up walking out with the alcohol without paying and essentially committing theft, what can the customer do to fuck up and prevent the employee from doing their task? Genuinely curious.

There are guidelines. Can't be wearing sunglasses / hats / etc. Must be clean shaven. Hell, some companies require you to be wearing a shirt with no logos / etc.

[The Walrus]

How would the customer have fucked up if the employee failed to check ID? Unless you ended up walking out with the alcohol without paying and essentially committing theft, what can the customer do to fuck up and prevent the employee from doing their task? Genuinely curious.

There are guidelines. Can't be wearing sunglasses / hats / etc. Must be clean shaven. Hell, some companies require you to be wearing a shirt with no logos / etc.

Yup, sounds exactly like what I went through. The company wasn't either of the ones you mentioned, Jay - mine was called Manpower, a temp staffing agency - but same guidelines and everything. There was one guy towards the end of my final run who tried to play the 'aw come on man' to get me to give him a green card instead of a red one 'cause he didn't ID me. Gave him the red anyway. He was not happy. I left and went home. 

[JayOctavarium]

oh man...

I did a shop at a franchised convenience store location out in the middle of nowhere a few years ago. Alcohol shop. Chick working the register sold a 32 pack of beer to a kid (didn't even look 18) ahead of me, and then didn't ID me (and my baby face). When I gave her the FAIL card, she freaked out on me. "THE COMPANY SAYS IT'S AT MY DISCRETION! YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE 40! I SELL BEER TO PEOPLE YOUNGER THAN YOU ALL THE TIME!" and then proceeded to cuss me out and threaten me.  We have to include everything said when we put in our reports. She had to have been fired for it.  Funny thing is, I kept getting contacted by the scheduling agency for that location (which is 150 miles from me) for years after that, begging me to go back and do it every month because they couldn't find anyone willing to.

[El Barto]

So do these companies only hire people under 21 for this job, or do you have to cite people who don't card you even if you're over 21?

[The Walrus]

I think they sometimes hire under 21, but when I did it, I was 21 or 22.

[JayOctavarium]

Depends on the client. One of the companies worked with had a client that wanted people between the ages of 18 (21 for alcohol) and 25.... But the same company is allowing us to do alcohol shops at the theater at ages 28 and 33.

[El Barto]

There's no way I'm flagging somebody for not selling me a beer at 33, unless it's to get them fired from an amazingly shitty job for their own good.

[axeman90210]

Never worked for one of these companies, but when I was 17 my dad's friend, who was working for an undercover security firm at the time, snuck me in to see Eric Clapton play at Madison Square Garden. The deal was that before Clapton came on I had to go to a bunch of stands and try to buy a beer, and if I actually got anybody to sell to me I could keep the beer

[El Barto]

Never worked for one of these companies, but when I was 17 my dad's friend, who was working for an undercover security firm at the time, snuck me in to see Eric Clapton play at Madison Square Garden. The deal was that before Clapton came on I had to go to a bunch of stands and try to buy a beer, and if I actually got anybody to sell to me I could keep the beer

Suddenly it all makes sense now.

[axeman90210]

Alas, I had nowhere near the confidence to pull off getting someone to sell to me at 17

[gmillerdrake]

Just got a notification that a packet with my first assignment has been delivered to my house. I'm curious as to how this will work and still a bit cautious as to if I'm about to get scammed and have my savings cleaned out or identity stolen.

I'll certainly use caution when it comes to sharing any personal info. Up to this point I've only shared my junk email account, work phone number and home address....all of which anyone could find in twenty minutes online.

[JayOctavarium]

Shit I already have your address (Secret santa *cough cough*

[gmillerdrake]

Yeah....so this is a scam. I was told I had a package delivered with a packet of instructions for my first 'assignment'. All that was in the package was a check made out to me for $2,850.00. I emailed and texted the guy 'Steve' who I'd been communicating with and he said just deposit the check and after that I'd get my instructions.

Ummm...no thanks. I sent an email telling him I was leery anyway and this really didn't seem legit and that I was destroying the check. Heard nothing since. I did send a text to the number he'd been texting me from and asked how many people fell for this scam, and told him I was pretty close to being another one.

So, MinistroRaven.....your contact on LinkedIn is either trying to scam someone or has been scammed. I'm doubting that you are trying to scam someone here.

Weird thing is the check that was sent to me is from a local moving business. I'm half tempted to take this check to them and either A) confront them for being a part of this or B) let them know they're being used in this scam.

[Lonk]

Oh man, glad you were smart and avoided a horrible situation. That really sucks though.

[MinistroRaven]

Yeah....so this is a scam. I was told I had a package delivered with a packet of instructions for my first 'assignment'. All that was in the package was a check made out to me for $2,850.00. I emailed and texted the guy 'Steve' who I'd been communicating with and he said just deposit the check and after that I'd get my instructions.

Ummm...no thanks. I sent an email telling him I was leery anyway and this really didn't seem legit and that I was destroying the check. Heard nothing since. I did send a text to the number he'd been texting me from and asked how many people fell for this scam, and told him I was pretty close to being another one.

So, MinistroRaven.....your contact on LinkedIn is either trying to scam someone or has been scammed. I'm doubting that you are trying to scam someone here.

Weird thing is the check that was sent to me is from a local moving business. I'm half tempted to take this check to them and either A) confront them for being a part of this or B) let them know they're being used in this scam.

The guy I got it from is a 3rd connection on my network. As I said on the OP I can’t do it because I am not in the US, nor I have the knowledge it is a Scam if I would have known it I wouldn’t have share it here. After many here commented that they have done part time job with other companies I thought it was legit. Now I am glad you were smart enough to get out of this unharmed.