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I watched the video.  That was absolutely awful in pretty much every way.
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I never heard of them until I saw them on the Graham Norton show.  One of those not popular in one continent but popular in another bands.
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« Reply #72 on: August 14, 2019, 04:05:59 AM »
MEGADETH
A TOUT LE MONDE
1994




After Dave Mustaine was kicked out of Metallica, he seemed to have been fuelled to one-up Metallica with his new band Megadeth any way he could. Their debut Killing Is My Business… And Business Is Good! was Mustaine’s attempt to make the fastest, heaviest and meanest music out there by the time. When Metallica made their proggiest record …And Justice for All, Megadeth countered with Rust in Peace. And when Metallica found mainstream popularity with their self-titled record and hit the number one on Album Charts, Dave did not want to be left eating dust. In the end, their answer to The Black Album, Countdown to Extinction was held back from the top spot by Billy Ray Cyrus. What a shame. I used to hold CTE in a pariah status because it was part of those streamlined early 90s record by bands that used to rule the world in late 80s (Metallica, Empire). But to be fair, it is a fine album and much better than Metallica’s Black Album. But I’ll get back to that sometime later.

Because today’s song is from their follow-up effort, Youthanasia. Unfortunately for Dave, metal was out of fashion in 1994 and the album peaked at only #4 and neither of the singles had notable chart success. In two years’ time, Metallica would have another #1 album in Load and a top 10 single, so this was a battle Dave lost. Musically the album was darker than its predecessor and heavy, in a chugging mid-tempo way. It’s also probably my favourite Deth album.

While Youthanasia is somewhat divisive album, the second single from the album, A Tout le Monde has shown enduring power and become a fan favourite. Unlike almost every Megadeth song up to that point, it shuns heavy riffing and instead focuses more on the vocals and mournful yet slightly hopeful atmosphere. And to my mind, it might have the best chorus of their whole discography. I’ll never get tired to that arpeggiated lead guitar. The lyrics were slightly controversial, since they can be read as a suicide letter but I believe they are about a dying man’s last words. MTV banned the video anyway, probably because it shows people jumping into their graves. Also, I haven’t really thought this before, but if this song was released two years earlier it might’ve been a hit. It has sort of similar vibe than Alice in Chains’ Dirt album.

There’s also two alternate versions of the song released. Youthanasia’s 2004 remaster has an old demo as a bonus track, with different lyrics for chorus. Apparently Dave’s French wasn’t spot on and a friend of his helped to shape the lyrics to their final form. There’s also a complete re-recording on their 2007 album United Abominations called A Tout le Monde (Set Me Free), with Cristina Scabbia of Lacuna Coil on co-lead vocals. Personally I think it’s well, an abomination :neverusethis:, lacking the somber mood of the original.

Megadeth released three more albums with mixed (Cryptic Writings) to negative (The World Needs a Hero) to only bosk and I have ever liked it (Risk) reviews until Dave injured his arm and was forced to quit playing guitar in 2002 and that was the end of Megadeth. However, after rigorous rehabilitation he gained his playing ability back and was first going to release a solo album in 2004 but his record label insisted it should carry the name of Megadeth. The resulting album The System Has Failed was a return to their metal form and reformed Megadeth has been going on strong ever since. Also, Dave became a born again Christian and a conspiracy theory nut which has made him even more insufferable than he used to be so I’m not really following what’s going on with Deth these days. Aside from the fact that he has come down with throat cancer, but the prognosis looks good and I wish him a speedy and complete recovery.
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Re: Ruba's 90s Extravaganza v. I realized life was a game
« Reply #73 on: August 14, 2019, 07:22:12 AM »
I always liked the mood of this song and really admired that Dave stretched out some to explore a different sound for Megadeth. The execution never quite did it for me though. IMO, it's an unrealized dream.
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Re: Ruba's 90s Extravaganza v. I realized life was a game
« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2019, 07:46:36 AM »
A Tout le Monde is a great song, one of my favorite Megadeth tunes.  :corn
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Re: Ruba's 90s Extravaganza v. I realized life was a game
« Reply #75 on: August 14, 2019, 07:54:49 AM »
Youthanasia is a very good record and probably my favorite Megadeth album. It's not really thrash metal anymore and because of that more accessible than it's predecessors but I quite like that style, and I think Marty Friedman really shines here.

And I saw them on that tour (on a big festival) and they kicked serious major ass live.  :metal :metal :metal

A Tout Le Monde is a good example of the more accessible style, this is as close to a ballad as Megadeth have come up until the and. I quite like that song. The 2007 version isn't an abomination imo but can't reach the original.

But their comeback record after the hiatus was The System Has Failed not The World Needs A Hero.
Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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« Reply #76 on: August 14, 2019, 08:09:20 AM »
But their comeback record after the hiatus was The System Has Failed not The World Needs A Hero.

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« Reply #77 on: August 14, 2019, 09:54:46 AM »
At least I've heard of this one, but I've not heard anything by Megadeth that I didn't think sucked.
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Re: Ruba's 90s Extravaganza v. Change my pitch up
« Reply #78 on: August 21, 2019, 09:51:30 AM »
THE PRODIGY
SMACK MY BITCH UP
1997




British rave/big beat band The Prodigy had became a big name in their home country with their second album Music for the Jilted Generation (1994), but were still relatively unknown in the U.S. However, their 1996 smash hits Firestarter and Breathe made the band one of the biggest names in the music world with their heavy yet infectious beats and dancer-turned-vocalist Keith Flint’s wild looks and fiery delivery. Consequently, their 1997 album Fat of the Land topped the charts around the globe.

However, today’s song is neither of the big singles but the controversial opening track of the album, Smack My Bitch Up. Unlike the two first singles from the album, it features no vocals by Flint (actually he sings on only four songs on the album, even though he is the most well-known member of the group). Smack My Bitch Up has only two lines of lyrics that are repeated (Change my pitch up/Smack my bitch up) that are sampled from American hip hop group Ultramagnetic MCs’ song Give the Drummer Some. The song is quite peculiar choice for a single, with beats heavy enough to knock on your back, abrasive synth leads and a lengthy wordless vocal solo in the middle, performed by Shahin Badar. What I like the most about this song (and Breathe too) is how the band knows how when to take the foot of the gas for a minute and chill things down, making the times when they nail it to the floor all the more powerful. Feels like popular electronic music artists lack that kind of sense of dynamics.

The reasons for the song’s controversiality are twofold. First, simply the title and the sampled lyrics evoke unfortunate implications of violence towards women. The band has insisted that they song title means doing something with great intensity and energy, however. I listened the song it was sampled from to (it’s pretty good although I don’t really listen to that genre) and in its context it seems to be some kind of gangsta-playa-pimp-whatever bragging and yeah, kinda misogynist. Still, it’s very much possible The Prodigy had different intentions and I find their explanation reasonable. Radio and TV stations were iffy about the title nevertheless.

The second controversy was towards the music video. The video (highly NSFW, although if it would be SFW at where you work, let me know when they’re hiring) was certainly not meant to be shown on major music stations, at least on daytime. It follows a young party-goer in first-person perspective doing drugs, drinking excessively, starting fights, groping women etc. until ending up on a strip club and picking up one of the strippers, whom they end up having sex with. There’s a nice twist at the end, although I don’t blame you if you get nauseous before that. One small thing I find funny: The name of the brunette stripper in the video is Teresa May. Before Donald Trump’s and then-British PM Theresa May’s meeting in Washington in January 2017, Trump’s press office actually released a memo that misspelled Theresa’s name. Three times. Maybe the other May would’ve get Brexit done…

The Prodigy went on hiatus in 1999, returned in 2002 and kept sporadically releasing albums while being one of the biggest dance music artists. However, Keith Flint committed suicide earlier this year and the band’s future is up in the air.

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Re: Ruba's 90s Extravaganza v. Change my pitch up
« Reply #79 on: August 21, 2019, 10:01:06 AM »
Well, the beat isn't bad!  :lol
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« Reply #80 on: August 21, 2019, 11:31:55 AM »
And we're back to stuff I've never heard of.
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« Reply #81 on: August 21, 2019, 11:58:01 PM »
I know this song and a couple of others from them. Not really my style but it had a certain appeal when played loud in a club.
Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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« Reply #82 on: August 22, 2019, 12:55:28 AM »
One of the greatest albums of the 90's.   I was huge into this band at the time of this album.
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« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2023, 07:57:53 AM »
I've occasionally been thinking back to this thread. I had fun researching and writing these pieces. I don't know if I will begin doing regular write-ups again, but there's one thing that had been bugging me a little, call it unfinished business maybe, but there was this exchange on the first page:

Speaking of the 90's and the Butthole Surfers, I love that song "Pepper".

That one might come up sooner or later.  ;)

How about later?  :lol I was going through Butthole Surfers discography recently and this one sort of wrote itself for a large part. Most of it will be admittedly about their early days, but they have had fittingly weird career arc from bad taste noisemakers to hip hit artist and hopefully this write-up is an entertaining, albeit brief look into their story.

Here we go:

BUTTHOLE SURFERS
PEPPER
1996




Butthole Surfers was formed in San Antonio in 1981 by vocalist Gibby Haynes and guitarist Paul Leary. Despite the bands crazy reputation, both of the men had actually academic background, Haynes having a degree in accounting and working in an accounting firm at the time and Leary being close to completing his MBA as well. Instead of white-collar careers they ended up serving the world some of the noisiest and freakiest rock music ever put on tape, and later getting signed on a major label, having an album produced by Led Zeppelin bassist John Paul Jones and making the biggest alternative hit of the year 1996.

The band did not initially have a set name and they changed it from show to show, with titles as imaginative as Vodka Family Winstons, Nine Foot Worm Makes Own Food and The Inalienable Right to Eat Fred Astaire’s Asshole. The name Butthole Surfers stuck kind of accidentally; Butthole Surfer was one of their song titles and at one of their early shows they were introduced as Butthole Surfers. The name caused some issues after the band was signed to Capitol Records and at least one of their album was issued with alternative cover with the band name altered to B***H*** Surfers.

The band has had some lineup changes, but Haynes and Leary have been constant members, and drummer King Coffey, who joined around the recording of their 1983 self-titled EP (sometimes also known as Brown Reason to Live and Pee-Pee the Sailor) has also been in the band since.

Aside from their music, perhaps even more than that, the band was famous for two things: their unquenchable appetite for psychedelic drugs and their intense live shows. The band was pretty much constantly high on LSD for the duration of 1980s and it is reflected on their music and weird antics.

At their peak the live shows were an assault on senses. Crazy music blaring way over the healthy decibel parameters, heavy strobe lighting, two drummers (King and Teresa Nervosa) banging standing up and on unison on see-through drumkits filled with lights, bald naked woman (Kathleen Turner) dancing with the music, Gibby Haynes screaming on megaphone or through various effects known as Gibbytronix and on top of that band projecting video material behind the stage that ranged from gruesome images from drivers education films and penis reconstruction surgeries to completely random like episode of Charlie’s Angels shown in color negative (I remember reading from some source it was upside down and backwards, who knows when it comes to Butthole Surfers). I recently read a quote by famous English radio DJ John Peel that probably summarises the live experience quite well:

“Perfectly extraordinary. I mean, excellent. But if you said you enjoyed it, I should be seriously concerned about you as a human being. But very well worth seeing and hearing.”

Their eighties music is delightfully weird. Their sound changes a little from record to record, but it is generally defined by thumping repetitive drum beats, Leary’s guitar work which is oftentimes noisy, chaotic and effect-laden but occasionally catchy and even beautiful and Gibby’s vocals, which many times are run through effects so heavily that any lyrics are indistinguishable. Whenever you can make sense of the lyrics, they are often dadaistic stream-of-consciousness rants with sexual and scatological references. They are definitely not everyone’s thing and certainly require a certain level of interest in absurd and a sense of humour. As I said, each of their 1980s albums have bit of a distinct feel to them, from synth-heavy Rembrandt Pussyhorse on which they discovered the joys of tape editing to Hairway to Steven which is based more on 1960s and 70s psychedelic rock and has Leary playing acoustic guitar for the first time in their discography. But I personally recommend their debut EP which shows their punky beginnings and 1987s Locust Abortion Technician, which is their noisiest and heaviest album, very experimental and unconventional, even disturbing, completely bonkers record.

While the band spent 1980s touring America, deeply underground with no hopes of mainstream success, they steadily gained following and respect. One of the disciples of the Surfers was Kurt Cobain, and Nirvana’s overnight success might have opened major label doors for them and bunch of other bands while the big companies were tripping over themselves trying to sign the next indie rock hit band. While some bands stuck firm to their indie cred, Butthole Surfers did not share the idealism say, Fugazi, and accepted Capitol’s record deal. They didn’t come completely out of nowhere; the video of their cover version of Donovan’s Hurdy Gurdy Man (in which the original’s Leslie effect is turned to the max) had had some exposure on MTV already.

Their first album on major label, 1993’s Independent Worm Saloon, was a minor success, with Who Was in My Room Last Night? gaining airplay on MTV and the album charting at 154 in Billboard 200. The album was co-produced by John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin fame. The band toned down their experimentation in their 1990s and reimagined themselves as mildly psychedelic alternative/hard rock band. While not all fans of their old material do not approve them ‘selling-out’, I do think they still remained quite good. Especially Paul Leary had grown into a legitimately good songwriter and I do enjoy Haynes’s drawled baritone singing even without all the effects.

Come 1996 however and the band suddenly struck gold. The first single of their 1996 album Electriclarryland, named Pepper, became a surprise hit, topping the Modern Tracks chart and even reaching 26 on the Hot 100 singles.

Pepper is quite unique song in their oeuvre, I’d say it does not really remind anything they’ve done before. They had incorporated electronic beats very scarcely before this chilled and restrained jam that’s based mostly on one guitar chord. Gone are the screamed and looped vocals, here Gibby basically narrates the verses spoken word-style, backed mostly by a drum beat. Paul’s guitar doesn’t do wild feedback screeches or fast blues licks but mostly plays one psychedelic melody. While the song was undoubtedly a hit, I think it was also another example of their experimental nature which was getting less focus during the 1990s. The lyrics are fairly abstract but nowhere near as cryptic as in the past, telling short tales of unfortunate fates of some people who “were in love with dying and doing it in Texas”. The chorus, although quite catchy and memorable, doesn’t seem to have much to do with the rest of the song. Anybody buying the album on the back of the song would probably be surprised, since it has very little electronic music influence and is mostly hard rocking alt rock with tinges of psychedelia and even southern/country rock. I personally think it is one of their best albums, it’s not as weird as their older material but it is just a good solid rock record.

The title “Pepper” makes no sense either, since the word does not appear in the lyrics at all. That is not unusual for the band however, most of their song titles are nonsense. In fact, the original pressing of the album Hairway to Steven had no song titles at all! Each track was instead represented by absurd illustration. The commonly used names for those songs come from how they were written in setlists.

The music video features black and white footage that I suppose is made to resemble some kind of TV coverage of a hostage situation, alternating with the band performing in colour in a gaudy 1960/70s style set. They are three piece in the video since long-time bassist Jeff Pinkus left the band after the tour for Independent Worm Saloon finished. I personally like how the spoken word in verses is sometimes incorporated in the video as Gibby talking on a microphone to a TV journalist. It’s not quite as wonderfully chaotic as the video for Who Was in My Room Last Night?, but they are very different songs in nature and a slower paced video works better on Pepper’s case.

Why was it a such a hit then? I am not sure. What I have figured is that it falls into a certain era of rock music, between grunge and nu metal. If you look at alternative hits from 1996 to 1999, there doesn’t seem to be such a unifying thread, other than rock hits were getting lighter, more positive sounding and major key after all the doom and gloom of the grunge era. Such unlikely genres as ska punk, swing revival and jam band rock were having their day in the sun. One reason that has been thrown around is that the song is somewhat reminiscent in tone to Beck’s 1994 hit Loser, both incorporating programmed percussion and spoken word delivery, but according to King Coffey the band was more inspired by trip hop acts such as Massive Attack and Tricky. Another hit song from the same era that’s a little similar in style is Primitive Radio Gods’ brilliantly named Standing Outside a Broken Phone Booth With Money in My Hand. I don’t particularly care for that one, but it also seems to be fairly fondly remembered when it comes to 90s one hit wonders.

The rest of the 1990s weren’t as rosy for the band. Their follow-up album, tentatively titled After the Astronaut, went unreleased, the band was dropped by Capitol and was mired in legal trouble for a while. In 2001 they released Weird Revolution, which was mostly based on material meant for After the Astronaut. On it the band has lost most of their identity and sound mostly like Kid Rock or Smash Mouth, in fact Kid Rock wrote the hook to the lead single The Shame of Life. It has been the last Butthole Surfers album so far, with the band playing only sporadic shows since, last time in 2017. Paul Leary has gone on record to say he hates touring so it is unlikely the band ever reunites for a longer period of time. However, they have left a weird and wonderful legacy and have had one of the oddest career arcs in the history of rock music. If you are interested to learn more about them, I recommend Michael Azerrad’s book Our Band Could Be Your Life, which profiles various American indie bands from the 1980s, not only for Butthole Surfers, but it covers many interesting bands of that era and paints the picture of the DIY nature and unending touring cycles of the underground rock scene.

One funny extra: at the height of their success, they even got referenced in The Simpsons. In the eighth season episode Hurricane Neddy, first aired in December 1996 (side note: IMO one of the best episodes of the show) Ned Flanders’ house gets destroyed by a hurricane. While his family temporarily resides at the church, the family sons proudly come presenting the new second-hand clothes they have got from the church. Todd Flanders gleely exclaims: “I’m a surfer!” while wearing a Butthole Surfers tee. This gag got caught by Fox censors, who did not allow the full band name to be broadcast, so the shirt is shown from an angle that makes it read “Buttho Surfers”. Now I don’t know about you, but to my mind that is not any less vulgar.

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« Reply #84 on: November 10, 2023, 08:13:28 AM »
The Devil was seen at Target the other day buying a winter jacket.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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