Guns: Yay or nay?

[Chino]

I didn't get a chance for the up close practice. I'll save that for the indoor facility I go to. It has retractable target lines, so it's easy to constantly readjust your distance, and they let you shoot as close as 5 yards. At the outdoor range, you can only move your targets once every 30 minutes when they do a cease fire. You also can't move them any closer to the firing line than that set of targets all the way to the right.

You've made me realize that I've never fired anything left handed. That'd be an absolute shit show. I can't even piss left handed 

[gmillerdrake]

You've made me realize that I've never fired anything left handed. That'd be an absolute shit show. I can't even piss left handed 

I think you'll be surprised at how well you do when you finally do it. It's hard to explain, but....for me there's less thought put into it and not all the 'noise' from the different techniques/grips/sight windows etc etc that you read and try through the years with your dominant hand.....and you just shoot because you aren't really trying for the lack of a better term. I've found it to be completely reflexive and more organic and have had pretty good success (10yds or less) at getting nice groupings and staying on the paper.

[Phoenix87x]

I practice with the left hand because I just know that the one time in my life I have to defend myself the guy will probably have my right hand pinned down 

Murphy's law madness

[bosk1]

I remember a guy I served with in the military once saying, "I like using my left hand because it feels like it's someone else."  But I don't think he was talking about shooting. 

[hefdaddy42]

I remember a guy I served with in the military once saying, "I like using my left hand because it feels like it's someone else."  But I don't think he was talking about shooting.

[Stadler]

I remember a guy I served with in the military once saying, "I like using my left hand because it feels like it's someone else."  But I don't think he was talking about shooting.

I've tried that; and it did feel like it's someone else... someone who didn't know what the hell they were doing! 

[hefdaddy42]

I remember a guy I served with in the military once saying, "I like using my left hand because it feels like it's someone else."  But I don't think he was talking about shooting.

I've tried that; and it did feel like it's someone else... someone who didn't know what the hell they were doing! 

[Architeuthis]

I don't own any guns.  If I have enough money to buy a gun,  I'm gonna buy a guitar instead. At least something music gear related.

[Chino]

I added a 22lr wheel gun to the collection this morning. I wanted another 22lr because the indoor range I like the most for winter shooting is 22 only, and this will be a good alternative to the semiauto Buck Mark I have.

It's a Charter Arms Target Pathfinder. Not my first choice. Ideally I wanted a S&W 617, but haven't found one. I couldn't find a Taurus 942 either (the 22lr version of the 856 snub pictured below). With the Black Friday sale, and being one of the 20 first in line and getting a $25 gift card, I got this and 1000 rounds of ammo for $420. Not a bad morning!



 

[Phoenix87x]

That's quite the collection 

[Chino]

Froze my balls off, but went to the range for a few hours this morning on my day off. Have to do something while the golf courses are shut down!

I don't think I'm loving that Charter Arms I recently purchased. I'm having a really hard time zeroing the sight in. I can't adjust the vertical axis any further, and it's still shooting really high. In the image below, I was aiming at center (unlike the Buck Mark where I was picking dots). I struggle terribly with it in double action. Far more so than with either of my other two revolvers. I'm on the fence on whether or not I want to trade it in. Part of me wants to keep it for no reason other than it's made in Shelton CT, which is like 30 minutes from me.

That snub nose did a number on me today too. It really rattles my wrist. I can still feel it 6 hours later. I was hitting the paper pretty good though for being 10 yards out.

[gmillerdrake]

Good groupings though Brian. I’d personally ditch anything you don’t like firing or have confidence firing. With ammo costs and getting to the range varying in frequency…..no need to waste time with a firearm you don’t like to shoot. Too many good ones out there to choose from.

[El Barto]

Froze my balls off, but went to the range for a few hours this morning on my day off. Have to do something while the golf courses are shut down!

I don't think I'm loving that Charter Arms I recently purchased. I'm having a really hard time zeroing the sight in. I can't adjust the vertical axis any further, and it's still shooting really high. In the image below, I was aiming at center (unlike the Buck Mark where I was picking dots). I struggle terribly with it in double action. Far more so than with either of my other two revolvers. I'm on the fence on whether or not I want to trade it in. Part of me wants to keep it for no reason other than it's made in Shelton CT, which is like 30 minutes from me.

That snub nose did a number on me today too. It really rattles my wrist. I can still feel it 6 hours later. I was hitting the paper pretty good though for being 10 yards out.

First off, at 30' you're shooting quite well. Nothing to be concerned about there (and far, far better than I can shoot).

As for the shooting high part, 22lr is cheap. Buy 3 small boxes of different ammo and don't be surprised is one of them is bang on. Hell, don't be surprised if one of them is hitting low at that range.

If that doesn't resolve the issue take it to the manufacturer and tell it shoots for shit and see what they do about it. I'd be fascinated to hear the story.

[Chino]

Thanks dudes. The advice is appreciated.   

Taurus just announced an updated version of the 856 I have. It'll come optic ready now.

 

I was hunting for the 22lr version (the 942) of that for the better part of 9 months or so, and they are nowhere to be found. I'm hoping they'll be announcing a new version of that one as well. If they do, I'm trading in that Charter Arms without hesitation and getting one of them.

[gmillerdrake]

Optics on a revolver looks 'strange' to me. Good luck finding the .22 model

[Chino]

I think the universe was trying to send me a sign for Valentine's Day yesterday. After searching for over a year for a S&W 617 6", I got alerts from three websites last night that they were now in stock. S&W must have finally gotten a  fresh batch into the wild. I don't know how, but one appeared in my cart. In a panic, I accidentally entered all of my CC and FFL information before clicking the "confirm order" button 



This is my first time purchasing a firearm on the internet. Finger crossed it all goes smoothly.

I'm debating what to do with that Charter Arms I got. It pails in comparison to this new one in every category besides weight. I don't know whether or not I should trade/sell it to my LGS or just keep it as a "guest gun" for other people on range days.

[gmillerdrake]

Nice!   

[Chino]

Grabbed my new 617 this morning. This thing is beefy! I can't wait to try it out next weekend.

[Dave_Manchester]

From the off let me say that I know less than zero about guns and how they're handled. My exposure to both has been via movies. That's why I was struck by the bodycam footage of the Tennessee shooter being taken down. I've time-stamped the section I'm talking about and my question is: why is the officer holding his weapon at what seems to be a 45-degree angle and away from his body? I've never seen that before. In Hollywood films (I know, I know) cops who go searching for someone in a house always have their weapon tucked tight against their shoulder and pointed arrow-straight. Is this (the 45-degree thing) just that one officer's preference or is that in fact how it's meant to be done? 

https://youtu.be/x97jfBwvT2E?t=191

(note/warning: the clip is not graphic but is very intense)
 

[Phoenix87x]

I could be wrong, but it just looked like the officer was clearing a corner. Meaning that by peaking a weapon out slanted exposes less of your person.

As for actually firing, I've always been taught to keep it level. But there's also the chaos of the situation as well, so who knows.

But good question/observation though

[El Barto]

From the off let me say that I know less than zero about guns and how they're handled. My exposure to both has been via movies. That's why I was struck by the bodycam footage of the Tennessee shooter being taken down. I've time-stamped the section I'm talking about and my question is: why is the officer holding his weapon at what seems to be a 45-degree angle and away from his body? I've never seen that before. In Hollywood films (I know, I know) cops who go searching for someone in a house always have their weapon tucked tight against their shoulder and pointed arrow-straight. Is this (the 45-degree thing) just that one officer's preference or is that in fact how it's meant to be done? 

https://youtu.be/x97jfBwvT2E?t=191

(note/warning: the clip is not graphic but is very intense)

You mount the scope directly on top for when you need distance aiming, and then a red-dot sight offset 45° that you can use in situations like this. Carrying it at that angle allows him to use the red dot. Looks like this.