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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #175 on: December 20, 2019, 08:20:47 AM »
Siakim (groin/indefinitely), Powell (separated shoulder/indefinitely); VanVleet (knee/day-to-day); Gasol (hamstring/indefinitely) are all out.  FVV should be back within days, but the other three are weeks/months. 

Time for the G-League team to show if they're ready for the show.

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« Reply #176 on: December 20, 2019, 07:58:17 PM »
Tacko ...5 points in 5 minutes
Kemba….2 points in 30 mintes

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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #177 on: December 23, 2019, 10:08:27 AM »
Holy fuckin shit.  I dunno if the Mavs imploded, or the Raps exploded.  Toronto opens the game 18-6; 85-55 for the Mavs with about 3 to go in the 3rd.  110-107 victory for the Raps.   :omg:  With Ibaka and FVV sitting most of the 4th quarter.   :omg:
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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #178 on: December 23, 2019, 10:19:12 AM »
They scored 47 points in the 4th, Insane.
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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #179 on: December 23, 2019, 11:45:45 AM »
They scored 47 points in the 4th, Insane.

From when it was 85-55, they went on a 42-12 run to tie it, and in just over (the final) 15 minutes outscored the Mavs 55-22... with Lowry, a rookie, and 3 undrafted players.
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« Reply #180 on: December 23, 2019, 12:02:46 PM »
The Raptors are the same team they were before Kawhi. They can outscore anyone but they are inconsistent as time.

I hope to catch their game Vs. OKC next week since I'll be in the area.
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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #181 on: December 23, 2019, 06:55:54 PM »
Jordan Clarkson got traded to the Jazz for virtually nothing. I think he could give the Jazz some much needed bench scoring
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« Reply #182 on: January 01, 2020, 02:43:56 PM »
David Stern passes away.
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« Reply #183 on: January 01, 2020, 04:28:46 PM »
RIP Commissioner Stern. The league would not have been so popular globally without you, and there would never be so many teams without you. That CP3 to the Lakers trade would not have been vetoed without you... oh, strike that last one, I know it was due to "basketball reasons"... the point is, as a fan I salute you.
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« Reply #184 on: January 01, 2020, 04:39:57 PM »
The Stern family is not going to get any condolence cards from anyone in the greater Seattle area. I am/was not enough of a fan of the NBA or the Sonics in 2008 to care that much, but I am very aware that he played a significant role in Seattle losing their team, and that many people here still won't forget that.
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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #185 on: January 02, 2020, 08:32:59 AM »
T-Ski -- my Wolves put a scare into your Bucks last night. Honestly, I think the Bucks just took it for granted, given the Wolves were running with half of their G league roster. No Towns, no Wiggins, no Teague. It ended up being a great game. The better team won, but I loved the fight showed by the Wolves. That dunk from Culver on Lopez was great, particularly after the play right before it, Giannis dunked on someone.
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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #186 on: January 02, 2020, 08:51:07 AM »
T-Ski -- my Wolves put a scare into your Bucks last night. Honestly, I think the Bucks just took it for granted, given the Wolves were running with half of their G league roster. No Towns, no Wiggins, no Teague. It ended up being a great game. The better team won, but I loved the fight showed by the Wolves. That dunk from Culver on Lopez was great, particularly after the play right before it, Giannis dunked on someone.

Bucks definitely had it on cruise for most of that game and it almost bit them.

On a side note, it has been an absolute pleasure having the Lopez brothers together this season.  Never realized they are such big goofballs off the court (and sometimes on).  And if you haven't seen the Bucks pregame wrestling schtick I highly recommend looking it up.
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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #187 on: January 03, 2020, 06:26:34 PM »
IT got tossed 88 seconds into the game for "making contact" with a ref... IMHO, that was a BS call. He might have gotten fouled there and sort of lost his footing before hitting a ref... and he got tossed for that? Geez...  :omg:  :facepalm:  :tdwn

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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #188 on: January 03, 2020, 06:30:54 PM »
For the action alone, that was weak.... not to mention that ref just stood there as IT was being pressured/double teamed, and made no attempt to get out of the way of the game unfolding.  Given how animated this ass-clown was with the ejection, he comes across like he wanted his 15 minutes of fame.  The league should suspend HIM for this.
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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #189 on: January 03, 2020, 06:37:28 PM »
WTF??

I would expect the coach to have gotten a bit more animated, no?
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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #190 on: January 09, 2020, 08:47:22 AM »
Jimmy Butler - no matter where he goes, he continues to be an ass. I hope TJ Warren drops 45 on his ass in March. Butler's creaky knees may not hold up until then.  :lol
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« Reply #191 on: January 16, 2020, 08:26:09 AM »
I don't care who your team allegiance is to, you have to love the resurrection of Markelle Fultz. After everything this guy has been through, his last few games, including last night's triple-double, have really been nice to see. And credit to the Orlando Magic, who swooped in, and dedicated themselves to giving Fultz the time and opportunity he needed.

Fultz may never be a knockdown 3 pt shooter, but his shot is getting progressively better, and it is nice to see a young man with so much potential overcome adversity like he has.

p.s. Someone please take Wiggins. Please.
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« Reply #192 on: January 16, 2020, 02:04:06 PM »
@Samsara....some buzz the Wolves are going hard after D'Angelo, do you think it'll happen? 
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« Reply #193 on: January 21, 2020, 08:19:57 AM »
@Samsara....some buzz the Wolves are going hard after D'Angelo, do you think it'll happen?

There has been buzz since this offseason when they almost had him, but he chose to sign with the Warriors (which was smart business on his part). The Wolves have been hovering since then, and yes, they are going hard. I just don't know what motivation the Warriors have to do it until the offseason. If you're the W's, there really isn't any reason to, and if D'Lo continues his great scoring, he's one of the only reasons Warriors fans have to come watch the team this year.

That said, if the Wolves put the right deal on the table, I'm sure they'll do it. Pretty much it comes down to this:

Timberwolves receive:

D'Angelo Russell - PG
Alec Burks - SG (or equivalent to make the salaries match)

Warriors receive:

Robert Covington - SF/PF
Gorgui Dieng - C
Timberwolves multiple first round picks

>>>>This is pretty much it, and GS probably loves this deal, as it gives them a guy in Robert Covington who is a great defender, solid perimeter shooter, and can guard and play everything from SG to PF if needed. Dieng gives them a starting caliber center whose contract expires at the end of the 2020-2021 season. Where the snag is, is probably how many, and what protections are on the first round picks. I've heard the Wolves offered this deal, with two first round picks, lottery protected. And the Warriors declined. My guess is, it'll take three first round picks, with at least one being fully unprotected, to make the Warriors go for it. The Wolves will have to overpay if they want D'Lo. I think they will, but then they'd have Towns-Russell, and that is a deadly combination (not a great defensive pairing, but we've got some guys who can make up for it).

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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #194 on: January 22, 2020, 02:21:48 PM »
Hearing that Philly wants Covington back. Would not surprise me if this move was made:

Roco and Layman for Richardson, Scott, and a couple of 2nd rounders.

Gives both teams what they need. For the Sixers, you get Roco back, who is the legit PF with range and lockdown D you need. Layman (who is out with a sprained toe) you can wait on, and he'll be a 3 pt bomb threat for the postseason. Then allows the Sixers to go big or small.

For the Wolves, you get Richardson, who is a SG/SF combo who can shoot 3s and score, which we want (upgrade over what Wiggins is giving you, shooting wise). And Scott is a PF who can shoot 3s. Plus, we get salary help, as while the salaries between the players are just about even, the deals of Richardson and Scott are SHORTER, giving us that flexibility we need next season (Dieng, and Scott would be on expirings, and Richardson would only have one more year).

Win-win. We'll see.

All the dumb Wolves fans clamoring for Ben Simmons have no idea what they are talking about. He's not a fit in our system at all. AT ALL. And the Sixers are not going to part with him. :lol
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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #195 on: January 23, 2020, 06:56:43 PM »
I haven’t been following up with the All-Star voting but I’m surprised with the East starters.

Interesting to see who the reserves will be.
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Re: NBA thread 2019-2020 - V. Luka on his way to world domination
« Reply #196 on: January 23, 2020, 07:18:07 PM »
Who would you put in and take out?

For the record the starters are:

East
Giannis
Kemba
Siakim
Trae Young
Embiid

West
Labron
Anthony Davis
Doncic
Harden
Kawhi
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« Reply #197 on: January 24, 2020, 07:08:16 AM »
I guess the main surprise for me is Trae Young. I would've picked J. Butler before him. But to be fair, I have not follow up Young's game that much so I did not know he was putting up good stats.
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« Reply #198 on: January 24, 2020, 09:08:25 AM »
Funny enough, I'm fine with the starters, as-is.

Regarding General Soreness, there is the tricky part -- his stats say no, but he's one of the main reasons Miami is where it is. I'm biased because he was a fucking douchebag in Minnesota, and the narrative seems to be now that it wasn't him who overthrew that team, it was Towns and the owner (which is bullshit). So Butler can go fuck himself, and yes, I'd say it to his face (I'd need a step stool, however - lol)
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« Reply #199 on: January 26, 2020, 12:54:53 PM »
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« Reply #200 on: January 26, 2020, 02:09:35 PM »
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« Reply #201 on: January 27, 2020, 12:54:33 PM »
Not sure how those games were played yesterday. Tonight's slate includes my Wolves at home versus the Kings. I get that it is a business, but given the tragic nature of the death, and Kobe's stature in the game, I'm wondering if yesterday and today was the smart thing to do (play on).
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« Reply #202 on: January 27, 2020, 04:01:45 PM »
LAL-LAC game tomorrow night is postponed.

Don’t blame the league for doing this.
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« Reply #203 on: January 30, 2020, 12:32:38 PM »
This is just fan speculation that I've read, but it makes a ton of sense.

Nets trade:

Spencer Dinwiddie (PG)
Caris Levert (SG)
Jarrett Allen (C)
Two (2) First Round Picks

to Timberwolves.

Timberwolves trade Karl-Anthony Towns (C) to Nets.

This makes a whole ton of sense for both teams.

Let me explain the Timberwolves point of view.

By trading KAT for these three players and two first rounders, this is what your starting five would look like:

C - Jarrett Allen - 21 years old - potential to be all defensive team. Great rebounder, shot blocker, interior scorer
PF - Robert Covington - 28 years old - NBA All Defense. 14-7-5 guy.
SF - Andrew Wiggins - 24 years old - 23 PPG
SG - Caris Levert - 25 years old - 14 ppg, great scorer/shooter/defender who has potential to be a 20 ppg guy
PG - Spence Dinwiddie - 26 years old - 22 ppg this year, GREAT defender, can play PG, SG, SF, true floor general and does everything
(remember, Wolves gets two Nets first rounders in this too)

Wolves don't lose any scoring, because the imports make up for it. They lose shooting from the 5 spot, but gain it everywhere else, and improve tremendously on defense. Plus, financially, they rid themselves of the biggest contract in team history for three very manageable deals (both current and if they wanted to resign) and gain the financial flexibility they need. Yes, they lose their All Star Center, but they might import an All Star PG, and two guys that could be all stars in the future. PLUS two first round picks. And they (the Wolves) retain all their young pieces they like on the roster.

The Nets. Wow. They import a two-time All Star Center who is one of the most transcendent players in the game. A 7 foot guy who plays like a guard. Oh...sorta like how Durant plays. And KAT is a local kid, from New Jersey.

C - Karl-Anthony Towns (25 ppg, 12 rpg, 5 apg)
PF - Kevin Durant (25 ppg - 5 - 5)
SF - Taurean Prince (15 ppg)
SG - Joe Harris (12 ppg)
PG - Kyrie Irving (20 ppg/10 apg)

>>>You've essentially created the East Coast version of the Golden State Warriors. Sure, the defense has to improve, but my Lord, talk about a crazy good Big Three. And KAT is young, at 24 years old. So if Durant and Irving retire, or move on at some point, you have a hometown kid sitting there.

I am a HUGE fan of KAT, and love him on my team, but I have to admit, if they were able to make the salaries work (I tried it on the trade machine, you'd need to get a little more creative to make it work), I gotta say, I'd probably be in favor of this.
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« Reply #204 on: January 30, 2020, 03:28:17 PM »
I don't believe that trade works financially.
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« Reply #205 on: January 31, 2020, 07:41:30 AM »
I don't believe that trade works financially.

I put a version of it through the ESPN trade machine:

Dinwiddie
Temple
Levert
Allen
Musa

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Towns

>>>>That works, according to the Trade Machine. And I assume Brooklyn would be giving up a couple of first round picks.
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« Reply #206 on: January 31, 2020, 09:11:18 AM »
What do you guys think about the new format for the All-Star game?

It looks like for the first 3 quarters, the score will be set to 0-0. For the 4th quarter there won't be a clock, but instead a target score which will be the highest cumulative 3 quarters plus 24 points (to honor Kobe).

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« Reply #207 on: January 31, 2020, 09:39:56 AM »
I think for this year, it's fine, given the Kobe tragedy. But they need to stop with the gimmicks and just get back to a competitive game.

Players are motivated by money. Put a winner take all, $100 million purse on the table. Split evenly between members of the winning team (80 percent to players, 20 percent to coaches). Roll the rock out there, and watch them ball big time. Gimmicks need to end. Show us how good you are.

Speaking of All Star stuff, the snubs are crazy. In order:

1. Bradley Beal - how the fuck does he get left off? Can think of three guys who should be canned off the East squad and replaced with Beal. Unreal.

2. Devin Booker - destroys Donovan Mitchell. So stupid.

3. Karl-Anthony Towns - stats don't lie. He missed 15 games due to a sprained knee and the suspension because of Joel "Crybaby" Embiid, so I get it. But he's way more deserving than some on the West team.

TEAM WINS should not impact who gets on the All Star Team. All three of the above players are CLEARLY all stars. Their teams suck. Even Jordan's Bulls sucked until he got help. Just a travesty to leave those three guys off.

p.s. with Dwight Howard and some past winners doing the Dunk Contest, I want Vince Carter to just say "fuck it" and sign up.
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« Reply #208 on: January 31, 2020, 09:53:23 AM »
In previous years, the All Star Game doesn't get "Competitive" until the 4th quarter (sometimes even late until the 4th quarter), my guess is that this is why they are making each quarter counts, to make it a little more competitive and intense.

I didn't even know Howard entered the Dunk Contest  :lol this is gonna be good.
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« Reply #209 on: February 01, 2020, 05:02:33 AM »
Yeah... I hate the gimmicks too.  I just want the ASG (in all sports) to somehow be at least mildly competitive, and more than just a scrimmach and display of offensive prowess.  Honestly, the Washington Generals play better defense than an ASG team.
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