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I'm just interested to hear what people think. I'm pretty sure I would get one.

I'll add a follow up question: What factors play in hand for you too consider buying an electric car?
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2019, 02:38:36 AM »
I'm days away (hopefully) to receive an hybrid car. So I'm gonna go with "no" I guess and accept the hybrid car as a compromise.

I would consider an electric car, but there has to be a widespread, nationwide network of charging posts. No way I'm gonna get a car that gives me headaches to plan trips because I don't know if I can charge it where I'd go.
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2019, 03:01:36 AM »
I'm days away (hopefully) to receive an hybrid car. So I'm gonna go with "no" I guess and accept the hybrid car as a compromise.

I would consider an electric car, but there has to be a widespread, nationwide network of charging posts. No way I'm gonna get a car that gives me headaches to plan trips because I don't know if I can charge it where I'd go.
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2019, 03:57:24 AM »
For my daily commute (70 km) I can imagine buying an electric car, if I could afford one. Sadly the last time I needed a new car the prices for new electric cars were much too high for my budget and used cars were virtually non-existent.

For any longer trips like working trips, holidays, visiting relatives in other cities etc. there's this to consider:

... there has to be a widespread, nationwide network of charging posts. No way I'm gonna get a car that gives me headaches to plan trips because I don't know if I can charge it where I'd go.

And not only the availability of charging posts is important, maybe even more so the duration for charging your car.  If I run low on gas it takes maybe five minutes to fill it up. If I run low on electricity it takes from 30 minutes to several hours, depending on the charging post.

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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2019, 04:13:30 AM »
I'm days away (hopefully) to receive an hybrid car. So I'm gonna go with "no" I guess and accept the hybrid car as a compromise.

I would consider an electric car, but there has to be a widespread, nationwide network of charging posts. No way I'm gonna get a car that gives me headaches to plan trips because I don't know if I can charge it where I'd go.

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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2019, 04:58:58 AM »
Using the Tesla Model 3 as my frame of reference, I'll separate it into dealbreakers and makers

Dealmakers:

1. Performance (Incredible)
2. Range (310 miles) same as my car
3. Recharge time - 15 mins at a super charge station for 180 miles is impressive and workable.

Dealbreakers:

1. Price ($35,000)-      My current car is a Toyota corolla. It was 10 years old when I bought it with 50,000 miles and it was $9,000. So an
                                  electric car with (equivalent engine wear/age) would have to come in at around 10 grand for me to bite.

2. Recharging stations- Its getting better, but I would want to see them as ubiquitous as gas stations

3. I have no need for a new car. My work commute is 4 miles on back roads. I barley put 3000 miles on my car a year and rarely even need to
    fill the tank. Ultimately, my car is paid off. I need nothing else. But that being said, if I did need a new car and there was a $10,000 dollar
    electric car, then I would strongly consider it.



*** On a side note, I am looking to test ride some electric motorycles, such as the Harley Livewire and the Zero brand motorcycles.

Again, the price issue pop up. $30,000 grand for the electric Harley is bullshit and the 90 miles range is not what I need. The Zeros are better at 20 grand which is an easier pill to swallow, but not one I plan to anytime soon. I like them a lot. The power is mental, but its probably gonna be another 10 years for the technology to come down in price to where I'll buy.
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2019, 05:13:13 AM »
I'm voting yes. If I had the chance I would buy one in a heartbeat. Unfortunately my country doesn't have them and won't have them in the foreseeable future either.
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2019, 05:32:14 AM »
Probably not. But I never gave it much thought. Bought my current car in 2017 and didn't once consider an electric/hybrid, but that was largely due to cost. Take that out of the equation maybe I'd think differently.
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2019, 05:48:30 AM »
Using the Tesla Model 3 as my frame of reference, I'll separate it into dealbreakers and makers

Dealmakers:

1. Performance (Incredible)
2. Range (310 miles) same as my car
3. Recharge time - 15 mins at a super charge station for 180 miles is impressive and workable.

Dealbreakers:

1. Price ($35,000)-      My current car is a Toyota corolla. It was 10 years old when I bought it with 50,000 miles and it was $9,000. So an
                                  electric car with (equivalent engine wear/age) would have to come in at around 10 grand for me to bite.

2. Recharging stations- Its getting better, but I would want to see them as ubiquitous as gas stations

3. I have no need for a new car. My work commute is 4 miles on back roads. I barley put 3000 miles on my car a year and rarely even need to
    fill the tank. Ultimately, my car is paid off. I need nothing else. But that being said, if I did need a new car and there was a $10,000 dollar
    electric car, then I would strongly consider it.



*** On a side note, I am looking to test ride some electric motorycles, such as the Harley Livewire and the Zero brand motorcycles.

Again, the price issue pop up. $30,000 grand for the electric Harley is bullshit and the 90 miles range is not what I need. The Zeros are better at 20 grand which is an easier pill to swallow, but not one I plan to anytime soon. I like them a lot. The power is mental, but its probably gonna be another 10 years for the technology to come down in price to where I'll buy.
Yea if there's one car I would be interested in, it's a Tesla 3 but even though that's aimed at the general consumer it's still a hefty price and in Sweden the base model is at $56000.  :-\
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2019, 07:05:01 AM »
Absolutely. Trying to save for one now.

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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2019, 07:56:11 AM »
I'm just interested to hear what people think. I'm pretty sure I would get one.

I'll add a follow up question: What factors play in hand for you too consider buying an electric car?

Yeah, I absolutely would.  The only real obstacles right now are price and the technology getting up to par.  The technology isn't too much of an issue, because it is getting there in terms of range, ubiquitousness of charging stations, and battery longevity.  It's just that it isn't economically feasible right now.  They just cost too much.  I guess a related secondary factor is the used car market.  There aren't many used electrics out there right now, which is huge.  I can't even remember the last time I bought a new car, and I don't foresee doing it anytime soon because it just doesn't make economic sense to do so given depreciation.  So I guess the bottom line is, once there is enough of a secondary market of used electrics out there at reasonable prices, I don't see how I won't own one.
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2019, 08:06:13 AM »
I'm just interested to hear what people think. I'm pretty sure I would get one.

I'll add a follow up question: What factors play in hand for you too consider buying an electric car?

Yeah, I absolutely would.  The only real obstacles right now are price and the technology getting up to par.  The technology isn't too much of an issue, because it is getting there in terms of range, ubiquitousness of charging stations, and battery longevity.  It's just that it isn't economically feasible right now.  They just cost too much.  I guess a related secondary factor is the used car market.  There aren't many used electrics out there right now, which is huge.  I can't even remember the last time I bought a new car, and I don't foresee doing it anytime soon because it just doesn't make economic sense to do so given depreciation.  So I guess the bottom line is, once there is enough of a secondary market of used electrics out there at reasonable prices, I don't see how I won't own one.
Your second point is where I'm at. I won't buy a new car, and to be honest, I don't have much confidence in a used electric.
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
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a car is a tool to get from point A to point B so I don't care if it runs on the blood of small children if it gets me somewhere
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
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a car is a tool to get from point A to point B so I don't care if it runs on the blood of small children if it gets me somewhere

You can get the Bathory model, if you can find enough virgins to procure the needed blood to run it  ;D

Anyway, as I said, I'm getting an hybrid car, that looks like the immediate future for now. Anyone wanting to be environment conscious with their next car should consider an hybrid model, I don't know how it's doing in the other parts of the world but Toyota seems to be the leading brand when it comes to hybrid cars. I had a drive test for mine and it was so smooth to drive (authomatic gear change).
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2019, 11:26:57 AM »
Since the question states "that suited your standards..." I took that to mean that things like

there has to be a widespread, nationwide network of charging posts

would be available to suite my standards.  Fast charging, afforadability.  I mean, I have no attachment to gas cars.  I just got a preowned one last year so I'm not in the market, but under these standards I don't see any reason not to buy an electric car.

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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2019, 10:37:38 PM »
I'm going to try to return to this thread tomorrow with some more comments and replies, but I will say for now I'm a solid yes as I'm a Model 3 owner.
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2019, 10:53:06 PM »
Since the question states "that suited your standards..." I took that to mean that things like

there has to be a widespread, nationwide network of charging posts

would be available to suite my standards.  Fast charging, afforadability.  I mean, I have no attachment to gas cars.  I just got a preowned one last year so I'm not in the market, but under these standards I don't see any reason not to buy an electric car.

This.  They don't seem to be anywhere near meeting those standards yet, but when they get there, and I needed a new car, I'd do it.

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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2019, 10:35:17 AM »
Using the Tesla Model 3 as my frame of reference, I'll separate it into dealbreakers and makers

Dealmakers:

1. Performance (Incredible)
2. Range (310 miles) same as my car
3. Recharge time - 15 mins at a super charge station for 180 miles is impressive and workable.

Dealbreakers:

1. Price ($35,000)-      My current car is a Toyota corolla. It was 10 years old when I bought it with 50,000 miles and it was $9,000. So an
                                  electric car with (equivalent engine wear/age) would have to come in at around 10 grand for me to bite.

2. Recharging stations- Its getting better, but I would want to see them as ubiquitous as gas stations

3. I have no need for a new car. My work commute is 4 miles on back roads. I barley put 3000 miles on my car a year and rarely even need to
    fill the tank. Ultimately, my car is paid off. I need nothing else. But that being said, if I did need a new car and there was a $10,000 dollar
    electric car, then I would strongly consider it.



*** On a side note, I am looking to test ride some electric motorycles, such as the Harley Livewire and the Zero brand motorcycles.

Again, the price issue pop up. $30,000 grand for the electric Harley is bullshit and the 90 miles range is not what I need. The Zeros are better at 20 grand which is an easier pill to swallow, but not one I plan to anytime soon. I like them a lot. The power is mental, but its probably gonna be another 10 years for the technology to come down in price to where I'll buy.
Yea if there's one car I would be interested in, it's a Tesla 3 but even though that's aimed at the general consumer it's still a hefty price and in Sweden the base model is at $56000.  :-\

I'll say a big yes as the Tesla will likely be my next purchase (4-5 years down the line).  $35,000 honestly isn't the real price... go to Tesla's site and actually price one... that $35K is reflecting your projected savings over the first few years (5 or 6 I think).  It's more like $40K for the base single motor and the tax credit has been cut in half now.  But hey, I paid a little over $47K for my 4Runner so the price-to-performance (my goodness the performance) is well worth it in my opinion.

Evening in my neck of Southwest VA we have Charging stations (actual Tesla stations; including one super-charger); I'm in Abingdon VA and there's a destination station in town (Martha Washington Inn), a Super Charger in Bristol VA 15-miles away, and another Charger in Wytheville VA about 50-miles away.  Makes sense for me with the chargers around and I'd likely try it without buying the Tesla brick for the home (maybe when we build).

My business partner has a long-range dual motor Model 3 and the thing is a BEAST... 0-60 in 4.4 seconds (until you've experienced that pickup in an electric, those are just words; threw my head back in the headrest) and curving like a true sports car.  Not to mention all the tech that comes with it (yes the autonomous driving is legit and with the most recent update it will give you curb-side pickup).  Gas savings are real for sure as Nick can attest to... all in all when compared to other new autos, it's worth it if your driving range is covered in my opinion.
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2019, 02:10:37 PM »
My first reaction was to say yes but then I rethought the question and I think it should be no for me.

I do not own a car since about 3 or 4 years.
Got rid of the old one because:

- we did not use a car very often
- commuting for work / school is with bicycle (or subway)
- very good communications around where I live (subway, bus, tram, commutertrain and train... even got an airport within biking distance)
- close to car rental when needed


That we got rid of the car was mostly for environmental reasons but I find it nice to not have to worry about what the car will cost in service and repair.

The money we save by not having a car can buy a lot of car rentals and / or taxi rides.

So no I think I would rent one instead....

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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2019, 09:22:15 PM »
I'm days away (hopefully) to receive an hybrid car. So I'm gonna go with "no" I guess and accept the hybrid car as a compromise.

I would consider an electric car, but there has to be a widespread, nationwide network of charging posts. No way I'm gonna get a car that gives me headaches to plan trips because I don't know if I can charge it where I'd go.

Non-Tesla networks have a way to go, but there is NO reason for any reservations on this front with a Tesla, assuming you have some way to charge at home or work. One thing a lot of people seem to fail to grasp is that 95% of charging is going to take place at one of those two places, and Tesla has plenty of superchargers so that you can go anywhere in America on the occasional road trip.

For my daily commute (70 km) I can imagine buying an electric car, if I could afford one. Sadly the last time I needed a new car the prices for new electric cars were much too high for my budget and used cars were virtually non-existent.

Electric cars are getting cheaper than ever, but that said even for a maker that still has a full tax credit (just going off US experience), and even factoring in gas/maintenance savings they still can't compete directly with the cheapest cars and crossovers out there. That said if you're budget allows for mid-size or above 5 year cost to own is going to be very similar, and that's when financially it's hard to say no to them if you test drive them.

Using the Tesla Model 3 as my frame of reference, I'll separate it into dealbreakers and makers

Dealbreakers:

1. Price ($35,000)-      My current car is a Toyota corolla. It was 10 years old when I bought it with 50,000 miles and it was $9,000. So an
                                  electric car with (equivalent engine wear/age) would have to come in at around 10 grand for me to bite.

2. Recharging stations- Its getting better, but I would want to see them as ubiquitous as gas stations

3. I have no need for a new car. My work commute is 4 miles on back roads. I barley put 3000 miles on my car a year and rarely even need to
    fill the tank. Ultimately, my car is paid off. I need nothing else. But that being said, if I did need a new car and there was a $10,000 dollar
    electric car, then I would strongly consider it.


As for #2, I will say again that as long as you're buying a Tesla it's a non-factor.

As for #1 and #3, those are related. You absolutely have to factor in your driving habits in a decision on an electric car in their current form. Their cost to own comes down a huge amount compared to ICE cars the more you drive them. In my position the last three years I've put on over 20k miles a year, and that's going to go up with a recent promotion, so it makes the overall cost to own much better for me.

I'm just interested to hear what people think. I'm pretty sure I would get one.

I'll add a follow up question: What factors play in hand for you too consider buying an electric car?

Yeah, I absolutely would.  The only real obstacles right now are price and the technology getting up to par.  The technology isn't too much of an issue, because it is getting there in terms of range, ubiquitousness of charging stations, and battery longevity.  It's just that it isn't economically feasible right now.  They just cost too much.  I guess a related secondary factor is the used car market.  There aren't many used electrics out there right now, which is huge.  I can't even remember the last time I bought a new car, and I don't foresee doing it anytime soon because it just doesn't make economic sense to do so given depreciation.  So I guess the bottom line is, once there is enough of a secondary market of used electrics out there at reasonable prices, I don't see how I won't own one.
Your second point is where I'm at. I won't buy a new car, and to be honest, I don't have much confidence in a used electric.

I don't mean to be a total Tesla fanboy, as I'm a fan of the technology at large, but along with the supercharger network another huge Tesla advantage is their battery technology. The biggest strike against the biggest non-Tesla electric car, the Nissan Leaf, was how awful its battery degradation was. Tesla meanwhile has lots of old S and X vehicles with hundreds of thousands of miles and very little range loss. I'm not saying that many new cars coming out today won't be able to match that, but when it comes to the used market I'd only trust a Tesla, and they of course hold their value a lot better and are thus a lot more expensive.
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2019, 06:43:19 AM »
But you're kind of making my personal argument for me.  I don't want electric cars to be the transportation equivalent of "hey are you on PC or Mac?"  or "iPhone or Android?"   It shouldn't matter.  If I'm driving a Dodge, Volvo, BMW, VW, Toyota, Acura or Yugo, I take the EXACT SAME GAS NOZZLE and shove it in my fuel hole.   

It might be fine for a single person with one car to do these things, but I literally have between four and six cars in my driveway at any one time.   Do I REALLY need to have six different charging networks - and therefore six different charging stations - in my home/work?   Tha fuck if I'm going to do the "rooting through computer bag for appropriate charging cord before I plug my car in" nonsense.   

Do I have that wrong? 

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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2019, 07:53:56 AM »
But you're kind of making my personal argument for me.  I don't want electric cars to be the transportation equivalent of "hey are you on PC or Mac?"  or "iPhone or Android?"   It shouldn't matter.  If I'm driving a Dodge, Volvo, BMW, VW, Toyota, Acura or Yugo, I take the EXACT SAME GAS NOZZLE and shove it in my fuel hole.   

It might be fine for a single person with one car to do these things, but I literally have between four and six cars in my driveway at any one time.   Do I REALLY need to have six different charging networks - and therefore six different charging stations - in my home/work?   Tha fuck if I'm going to do the "rooting through computer bag for appropriate charging cord before I plug my car in" nonsense.   

Do I have that wrong?
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2019, 08:22:52 AM »
As someone who spends upwards of $300 a month on fuel to get to and from work, I'd love an electric car.

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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2019, 08:30:24 AM »
As someone who spends upwards of $300 a month on fuel to get to and from work, I'd love an electric car.

damn.  I spentd about 30 bucks a week for work commute on gas, throw another tank for the month for other use (30 bucks is about a tank for me in NJ) I'd put myself around $150 a month for gas.

But you're kind of making my personal argument for me.  I don't want electric cars to be the transportation equivalent of "hey are you on PC or Mac?"  or "iPhone or Android?"   It shouldn't matter.  If I'm driving a Dodge, Volvo, BMW, VW, Toyota, Acura or Yugo, I take the EXACT SAME GAS NOZZLE and shove it in my fuel hole.   

It might be fine for a single person with one car to do these things, but I literally have between four and six cars in my driveway at any one time.   Do I REALLY need to have six different charging networks - and therefore six different charging stations - in my home/work?   Tha fuck if I'm going to do the "rooting through computer bag for appropriate charging cord before I plug my car in" nonsense.   

Do I have that wrong? 

I don't know, do electric cars have a standard plug for the car?  I would hope so for not just home use but for public charging stations.  As for home, I'd imagine once this becomes normal, houses will be built with charge ports and you could probably get a unit for your house that has 6 dongles or whatever for all your vehicles.

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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2019, 08:30:59 AM »
No.  I can afford one, but don't need or want one.  I live a half mile from work.  My 2015 Camaro ZL1 gets me from A to B just fine.  :lol
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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2019, 09:39:42 AM »
As someone who spends upwards of $300 a month on fuel to get to and from work, I'd love an electric car.

damn.  I spentd about 30 bucks a week for work commute on gas, throw another tank for the month for other use (30 bucks is about a tank for me in NJ) I'd put myself around $150 a month for gas.


Keep in mind that I work 7 days a week, so I'm commuting Saturdays and Sundays too.

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Re: If you could afford an electric car that suited your standards....
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2019, 05:43:01 PM »
But you're kind of making my personal argument for me.  I don't want electric cars to be the transportation equivalent of "hey are you on PC or Mac?"  or "iPhone or Android?"   It shouldn't matter.  If I'm driving a Dodge, Volvo, BMW, VW, Toyota, Acura or Yugo, I take the EXACT SAME GAS NOZZLE and shove it in my fuel hole.   

It might be fine for a single person with one car to do these things, but I literally have between four and six cars in my driveway at any one time.   Do I REALLY need to have six different charging networks - and therefore six different charging stations - in my home/work?   Tha fuck if I'm going to do the "rooting through computer bag for appropriate charging cord before I plug my car in" nonsense.   

Do I have that wrong? 

Well you certainly have some valid points. The issue is gas is easy to get into a car, it's literally a hole and a hose if you break it down to its simplest, and not exactly much harder at its toughest. When electricity is delivered, especially when jumping to level 2 and VERY much so when going to level 3 and above it requires some very specialized equipment. Jumping off Tesla for a moment I will say with any electric vehicle you can get an adapter or three and basically be set to charge a non-Tesla at almost any non-Tesla station, but it'll be awhile before it's as simple as gas in that particular regard. The EU has been good about getting a standard going and they will almost certainly beat the US to the punch in having electric cars and charging on a universal format.

And just because I have to say it, get a Model 3 and you won't worry much about what other cars are there. :D
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