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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #350 on: August 01, 2019, 09:55:21 AM »
Classic and timeless.  I still give the slight edge to Hysteria (for my own personal reasons as to when my musical course was being charted), but when I did my Top 50, I really struggled with putting Hysteria over Pyromania.  All in all, I'd say Pyromania has aged better for me.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #351 on: August 01, 2019, 10:05:22 AM »
Awesome album and one I have, I can see why people who were already fans would be put off a bit, but like you said, it's great music and I hope those people eventually came around to enjoy this (I'm sure many or most did).
I actually love all the records up until the X album, although I think you're right, some people may have been stumped by Pyromania.
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Their last good album.

As with a lot of these albums, my first exposure to Leppard came by way of MTV -- in this case, the Rock of Ages video and then the video for Photograph.  I bought the album (probably from the Columbia Record & Tape Club) and then got High 'n' Dry.  Foolin' is probably my favorite song on this album.  Given what had transpired in my life between 83-87, from the moment I heard the first notes of whatever the first song from Hysteria I heard was, I was done with Leppard.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #353 on: August 01, 2019, 10:47:48 AM »
Was right up there in my DTF Top 50.............but everyone didn't know them out here in Australia until they really broke with Hysteria.  To this day I am not sure that I have heard Photograph (or anything pre-Hysteria)  on regular mainstream radio.

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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #354 on: August 01, 2019, 11:19:40 AM »
When I was a kid getting into rock Def Leppard was one of the first bands I could sink my teeth into. Unfortunately not a single one of their studio albums was interesting enough for me to stick with front to back, Pyromania included (but I would have to agree with those who put Hysteria at the top). I actually still like Photograph and Rock of Ages a lot, but Too Late For Love and Foolin' are a bit too 80s schlock for my ears. I prefer to listen to their greatest hits (The Vault) when it comes to Leppard.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #355 on: August 01, 2019, 12:03:46 PM »
...a bit too 80s schlock for my ears.

You say that as if it's a bad thing.  :lol
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« Reply #356 on: August 01, 2019, 01:21:01 PM »
Great, great album by the Leps!

Their last good album.

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Def Leppard - Pyromania


Their last good album.

As with a lot of these albums, my first exposure to Leppard came by way of MTV -- in this case, the Rock of Ages video and then the video for Photograph.  I bought the album (probably from the Columbia Record & Tape Club) and then got High 'n' Dry.  Foolin' is probably my favorite song on this album.  Given what had transpired in my life between 83-87, from the moment I heard the first notes of whatever the first song from Hysteria I heard was, I was done with Leppard.
you don't seem to like Hysteria and everything after that then (which I can understand in some way)
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #358 on: August 01, 2019, 02:18:45 PM »
Appetite for Destruction and Pyromania?  Now we're getting somewhere.

2 of the greatest albums in history, regardless of genre.
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« Reply #359 on: August 01, 2019, 02:31:27 PM »
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« Reply #360 on: August 01, 2019, 02:33:09 PM »
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« Reply #361 on: August 01, 2019, 03:01:40 PM »
Scorpions Savage Amusement is a fantastic hard rock album! Great tour to support it too.  :metal
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #362 on: August 01, 2019, 03:40:19 PM »
Appetite for Destruction and Pyromania?  Now we're getting somewhere.

2 of the greatest albums in history, regardless of genre.
Pyromania???
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #363 on: August 01, 2019, 03:46:44 PM »
So I was a huge fan when Pyromania came out. Yes, it wasn't nearly has heavy as High n Dry.
Heck, even the drums are programmed.

After Pyromania, Def Leppard became Mutt Lange's  rock style "boy band".

Pyromania isn't bad, and I love the live album that came with the deluxe version a few years ago. This tour was my first concert.

But Def Leppard lost me with Hysteria. After that long wait between albums, they came out with such a load of rubbish. I heard Pour Some Sugar On Me the other day. It's as gag worthy as it was 30 years ago.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #364 on: August 01, 2019, 03:57:06 PM »
Great album. In real time I probably liked Hysteria more. It was the first or second CD I bought with my own money. I wasn't huge into High n Dry or Pyromania at the time (I only knew what I'd seen on MTV) so the change in sound didn't resonate with me. Hysteria made me backtrack and buy those albums.
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you don't seem to like Hysteria and everything after that then

Correct.


But Def Leppard lost me with Hysteria. After that long wait between albums, they came out with such a load of rubbish. I heard Pour Some Sugar On Me the other day. It's as gag worthy as it was 30 years ago.

Exactly.  I know this is an overly broad and not really fair characterization, but I regard Hysteria as basically a collection of songs suitable for nothing other than use as background music at strip clubs.
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« Reply #366 on: August 01, 2019, 04:10:14 PM »
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« Reply #367 on: August 01, 2019, 04:25:23 PM »
Hah!

I mean, if you were 12 and Hysteria came out and it meant something to you, that great!

But honestly, Def Leppard ceased being a band and basically became..product at that point.
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« Reply #368 on: August 01, 2019, 07:54:16 PM »
Eh, that sounds like code for "they sold out," which I reject.  Hysteria still sounded like Def Leppard; it was just more streamlined and slick to appeal to the masses.  I know the idea of your favorite band being a bunch of starving musicians while staying true to their art is always appealing to the fans who were there before they hit the big time, but I will almost never have a problem with a band finding a way to make more money.

Pyromania is good, but Foolin' is the only song from it I ever reach for now. I prefer both High N' Dry and Hysteria.

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« Reply #369 on: August 01, 2019, 08:02:11 PM »
Hah!

I mean, if you were 12 and Hysteria came out and it meant something to you, that great!

But honestly, Def Leppard ceased being a band and basically became..product at that point.

I was 13 when Hysteria came out and it took some time to break in Australia so perhaps 14 when I found it.  I was into the first single that made radio here (Animal) and then - as I always did when I found a new band I liked - I went straight to the store to check out the back catalogue.   Once I found Pyromania I played it non stop for months and ditched Hysteria.   I still rate Hysteria as a very good album but I much prefer High n Dry and Pyromania - and for that matter , Retroactive which I think is quite under rated and a better "middle ground" between Pyro and Hysteria.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #370 on: August 02, 2019, 07:34:42 AM »
I remember getting my father to buy this for me at a gas station...
I have never, in my 43 years of living, seen a CD for purchase at a gas station.

I used to drive from Connecticut to Florida, every year as a kid and then every couple years as an adult.   Just about every truck stop on I95 (the interstate that goes from Maine to the tip of Key West, Florida) had cassettes in the day, and CDs now.   Nothing deep, all the same stuff (Thriller, the first Boston album, Born In The USA, etc. etc.) but they were there.

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« Reply #371 on: August 02, 2019, 07:36:52 AM »
Hah!

I mean, if you were 12 and Hysteria came out and it meant something to you, that great!

But honestly, Def Leppard ceased being a band and basically became..product at that point.

I was 13 when Hysteria came out and it took some time to break in Australia so perhaps 14 when I found it.  I was into the first single that made radio here (Animal) and then - as I always did when I found a new band I liked - I went straight to the store to check out the back catalogue.   Once I found Pyromania I played it non stop for months and ditched Hysteria.   I still rate Hysteria as a very good album but I much prefer High n Dry and Pyromania - and for that matter , Retroactive which I think is quite under rated and a better "middle ground" between Pyro and Hysteria.

We've talked about this before, but the original versions of the b-sides for the Hysteria album are better - read: "I like more" - than anything on the actual album.  "Ride Into The Sun", "Tear It Down", "Ring Of Fire", "I Wanna Be Your Hero" all RULE. 

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« Reply #372 on: August 02, 2019, 07:48:56 AM »
Pyromania kicks a lot of ass.  I love when the band opens with Rock Rock Till You Drop - that's such a great song.  I was happy to see them on New Year's Eve 1999 and having them open with that track.  Just a whole bunch of fantastic songs.

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« Reply #373 on: August 02, 2019, 08:15:49 AM »
I saw them open for Billy Squier in '83, and those songs are so much better live. 

That's one thing about them:  rag on the songs but they deliver as a band live, for real.  I saw them open for Kiss in 2014, and I was pretty impressed. 

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« Reply #374 on: August 02, 2019, 09:17:54 AM »
Eh, that sounds like code for "they sold out," which I reject.  Hysteria still sounded like Def Leppard; it was just more streamlined and slick to appeal to the masses.  I know the idea of your favorite band being a bunch of starving musicians while staying true to their art is always appealing to the fans who were there before they hit the big time, but I will almost never have a problem with a band finding a way to make more money.

Pyromania is good, but Foolin' is the only song from it I ever reach for now. I prefer both High N' Dry and Hysteria.

Agreed.  Hysteria was very commercialized and poppy, but it was still Def Leppard.  I thought the song writing was pretty good for the most part.  Could've done without PSSOM and Excitable, but it's still a good album.  It's pretty difficult to argue against 25M copies world wide and 7 hit singles.  Although, I think Pyromania is still my fav.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #375 on: August 02, 2019, 09:26:39 AM »
I wouldn't have put it quite in these terms at the time, but:  Hysteria was not the album I wanted.  But it was ultimately so good that I couldn't help but love it anyway.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #376 on: August 02, 2019, 09:28:36 AM »
There's a funny Edguy song about one of their friends/crew members on their last album's bonus disc that was heavily inspired by Hysteria. Honestly the hook is awesome, it's a straight Def Leppard clone.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #377 on: August 02, 2019, 09:33:58 AM »
To give us something more up TAC's alley:

Duran Duran - Rio

Songs:
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-Lonely in Your Nightmare
-Hungry Like the Wolf
-Hold Back the Rain
-New Religion
-Last Chance on the Stairway
-Save a Prayer
-The Chauffeur

At the end of the day, what I can say is that these guys weren't my thing, but I enjoyed every single song I ever heard from them.  I primarily knew of them for two reasons back then: (1) They were all over MTV; and, probably more importantly, (2) Their name was scribbled on the book covers and notebooks of every single sweater-and-leg-warmer-wearing girl I ever had a crush on and got friend-zoned by in high school, and they would talk about Duran Duran incessantly.  I know the hits.  I like the hits.  I have heard they put on a great live show.  That's about all I can say.



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« Reply #378 on: August 02, 2019, 09:40:07 AM »
To give us something more up TAC's alley:

Duran Duran - Rio

Songs:
-Rio
-My Own Way
-Lonely in Your Nightmare
-Hungry Like the Wolf
-Hold Back the Rain
-New Religion
-Last Chance on the Stairway
-Save a Prayer
-The Chauffeur

At the end of the day, what I can say is that these guys weren't my thing, but I enjoyed every single song I ever heard from them.  I primarily knew of them for two reasons back then: (1) They were all over MTV; and, probably more importantly, (2) Their name was scribbled on the book covers and notebooks of every single sweater-and-leg-warmer-wearing girl I ever had a crush on and got friend-zoned by in high school, and they would talk about Duran Duran incessantly.  I know the hits.  I like the hits.  I have heard they put on a great live show.  That's about all I can say.
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« Reply #379 on: August 02, 2019, 10:02:12 AM »
FYI, agreeing with TAC really doesn't help one's musical credibility.

Hysteria and "musical credibility" don't exactly go hand-in-hand.


To give us something more up TAC's alley:

Duran Duran - Rio


This is a bit of an odd one for me.  I kinda liked a couple songs at first but then rejected the band as I got into metal and adopted the "if it isn't metal, it sucks" attitude.  It wasn't until 15+ years later than I gave some of the songs another chance and really love them.  John Taylor's bass work is particularly good.
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« Reply #380 on: August 02, 2019, 10:06:48 AM »
To give us something more up TAC's alley:

Duran Duran - Rio

Songs:
-Rio
-My Own Way
-Lonely in Your Nightmare
-Hungry Like the Wolf
-Hold Back the Rain
-New Religion
-Last Chance on the Stairway
-Save a Prayer
-The Chauffeur

At the end of the day, what I can say is that these guys weren't my thing, but I enjoyed every single song I ever heard from them.  I primarily knew of them for two reasons back then: (1) They were all over MTV; and, probably more importantly, (2) Their name was scribbled on the book covers and notebooks of every single sweater-and-leg-warmer-wearing girl I ever had a crush on and got friend-zoned by in high school, and they would talk about Duran Duran incessantly.  I know the hits.  I like the hits.  I have heard they put on a great live show.  That's about all I can say.
This album is, in my view, legendary.   I love this record to this day. 

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« Reply #381 on: August 02, 2019, 10:10:39 AM »
Duran Duran was one of those groups where I heard the songs and said, "pretty cool".  Saw the videos and said, "pretty cool".  However, never owned a single one of their albums.  Go figure. :-\
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« Reply #382 on: August 02, 2019, 10:53:52 AM »
New wave, with hints of progressness and hooks like no other.   Rio was my gateway into DD.

Dide note, I both this cassette with Iron Maiden Piece Of Mind. I just remember laughing at the drastic style differences in my purchase.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #383 on: August 02, 2019, 11:08:45 AM »
Bonus Friday content:

AC/DC - Back in Black

Songs:
-Hells Bells
-Shoot to Thrill
-What Do You Do for Money Honey
-Given the Dog a Bone
-Let Me Put My Love into You
-Back in Black
-You Shook Me All Night Long
-Have a Drink on Me
-Shake a Leg
-Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution

This album somehow only had four hit singles.  I say "only," because at least 7 songs got regular radio rotation (and still do), and I can sing right along with them despite never owning this album. 

Where I went to school, there was sort of a fan rivalry between AC/DC and Van Halen.  It usually just devolved into whether you thought Angus or Eddie was the better guitar player.  I fell into the Van Halen camp myself.  But AC/DC could write a catchy rock song, and they wrote a LOT of them through the years.  And I guess that's why when taking a run at iconic albums from the '80s, you pretty much HAVE TO include this one. 
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« Reply #384 on: August 02, 2019, 11:13:38 AM »
There are bands that excel in a genre.  They're great in that genre.  But they are so committed to that genre that that's where they stay.  I can't imagine Anthrax or Slayer doing a convincing  Euro-pop album, for example.   But there are bands - I think Iron Maiden is one, and, don't laugh, but Night Ranger is another - that could put out a credible, legit album in jsut about any genre.

Duran Duran is that band.   I think Simon LeBon may be the best singer of that entire genre/time period.  He SANG, as opposed to that nasally English whine that a lot of those bands had (think the guy from Psychedelic Furs, or Robert Smith).   I think John Taylor could just as easily play in Yes as in Duran Duran (and I'm a Squire fan boy, so there!).   And on down the line.    Listen to the legato guitar lines on several of the songs on Rio; they are VERY Frippian (I'm thinking specifically of his work with Bowie on "Heroes").   That's a top flight band that happened to want to play - (I forget what it's called, but there was a name for it) - in the New Romantic style, but could just as easily have played metal or hard rock if that was their bent.