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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #140 on: July 16, 2019, 02:00:56 PM »
O:M is a top-10 album of all time on my list.  Virtually flawless.  Sadly, I didn't get 'in' to QR until just a couple months after they'd rolled thru Toronto for the Empire tour, so never got to see this in its entirety.  I made up for it by watching the fuck out of O:L.  Easily my most watched concert DVD of ever.  I echo many of the statements already made, and don't have much more to offer.

Definitely agree with the first two sentences here.  I was fortunate enough to see most of it live during the O:M tour and then all of it live on the Empire tour.  I have the original VHS/CD version of Livecrime.

As far as the impact of this album on me, it was a complete game-changer (I think someone already used this term).  I was already a QR fan, but O:M was the first thing I ever heard that could be called progressive metal and inspired my band's guitar player and I to change our band's direction and split from our drummer and singer who wanted to go in a more glam direction.  After this album, I became aware of Fates Warning, and all that paved the way for DT a few years later (I'm not counting WDADU).
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« Reply #141 on: July 16, 2019, 03:42:06 PM »
That reminds me: is Operation LiveCrime still available on DVD or Blu-ray? I need to get around to getting that.

And yeah, Mindcrime is great.  I love how it is very cohesive and has a great flow despite not having many reprises.

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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #142 on: July 16, 2019, 03:44:32 PM »
I have never watched Livecrime.
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« Reply #143 on: July 16, 2019, 03:48:52 PM »
I have never watched Livecrime.
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« Reply #144 on: July 16, 2019, 03:51:55 PM »
That reminds me: is Operation LiveCrime still available on DVD or Blu-ray? I need to get around to getting that.

Doesn't appear still to be in print, but I'm sure good used copies are available.


I have never watched Livecrime.

Last time I watched it (which I think was about a year ago), it struck me as being very heavily produced (at least the video and probably the audio as well).
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« Reply #145 on: July 16, 2019, 04:07:15 PM »
I have never watched Livecrime.
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So here's the reason. If my memory is correct, the VHS was just a live version of O:M. If it was a full show, I might have sprung for it. Plus, I wasn't a fan of how it was shot. I hated when bands would release live videos with slo-mo effects.  So for those reasons, I never bought it. I had it in my hands a few times, but I just could not pull the trigger.
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« Reply #146 on: July 16, 2019, 04:38:34 PM »
In addition to my prior statement, I would like to add the following:  :|
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« Reply #147 on: July 16, 2019, 04:56:11 PM »
Well, as much as I LOVED Warning and O:M, QR never really approached favorite band status. I didn't feel obligated to buy the thing. I think they released I Don't Believe In Love from it, and I just didn't care for the video. Plus I was already collecting bootlegs at that point, and there was a great Mindcrime show from Japan that I loved watching.

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« Reply #148 on: July 16, 2019, 05:09:56 PM »
I remember being at a party on a Saturday and they were cranking it.  I didn't know OM came out.  I woke up Sunday and bought it right away.
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« Reply #149 on: July 16, 2019, 05:17:35 PM »
I remember being at a party on a Saturday and they were cranking it.  I didn't know OM came out.  I woke up Sunday and bought it right away.

May 1988:

Seventh Son
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A glorious time.
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« Reply #150 on: July 16, 2019, 05:24:36 PM »
Seems like yesterday in my mind.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #151 on: July 16, 2019, 05:24:53 PM »
One out of three ain't bad.

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« Reply #152 on: July 16, 2019, 05:32:45 PM »
I remember being at a party on a Saturday and they were cranking it.  I didn't know OM came out.  I woke up Sunday and bought it right away.

May 1988:

Seventh Son
Mindrcrime
Bruins run to the Finals

A glorious time.

Jason Becker Perpetual Burn And Marty Friedman Dragons Kiss were my favorites of 88. Mindcrime was on the drivers side of the cassette case I will admit , it did have much better production than their earlier releases so it did get played a lot.

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« Reply #153 on: July 16, 2019, 09:40:05 PM »
Well, as much as I LOVED Warning and O:M, QR never really approached favorite band status.

This is kind of me.  O:M was in high rotation, but they were the opening act for bands I liked better at that time.  No knock on them (and O:M and Empire have both aged very well, if you ask me.)

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« Reply #154 on: July 16, 2019, 09:43:22 PM »
I would say for a while in the mid 90's, Queensryche was a borderline top 10 band for me, but then I found the internet and a crap load of new bands and they tumbled down the list.  They'd probably be somewhere in the 26-40 range now if I had to do a favorite bands/artists list.

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« Reply #155 on: July 17, 2019, 05:19:31 AM »
I have the original VHS/CD version of Livecrime.

Me too!  Or, maybe "had" is more correct.  I'm not sure I have any of my VHS cassettes.  I digitized everything I owned about 10 years ago.  I did buy the DVD of O:L, and wouldn't say that the show is 'over' produced.  It's a really nice production, stitching together from what, 2 or 3 shows.  I don't mind when bands do that, to put out the best version of the product.

@ Tim (and others)... there's a nice live version of the Empire tour on Spotify ... Hammersmith Odeon show in 1990.  Spotify split the show and added the tracks on the 'remastered' version of Empire, and O:M as a 2nd disc on their listing of O:M.  I put them into a single playlist based on setlist.fm.
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« Reply #156 on: July 17, 2019, 08:11:23 AM »
O:M  is the only Queensryche album that has stayed with me all these years. I still stop and listen whenever it comes on rotation. I've never done a top 50 album list but I'm sure this would be quite high on the list. At the time of it's release, I was mesmerized by Tates vocal performance and it still can give me chills occasionally (My Empty Room, anyone?). As near perfect as an album can get, IMO.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #157 on: July 17, 2019, 08:19:31 AM »
Mindcrime is my favorite album of all time.  Not much to expand upon.

I used to have the VHS/CD box set of Livecrime, but sold it a handful of years ago.  There was no point in keeping it - the video is now on DVD, and the CD was re-released in 2001 or so.  I did rip the original CD, but I don't hear any difference between the two.

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« Reply #158 on: July 17, 2019, 11:40:26 AM »
Mindcrime is my joint favourite album of all time. Nuff said  :tup

Such a great album. It’s probably my most listened to album of all time and I’m still not tired of it.
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« Reply #159 on: July 17, 2019, 11:41:32 AM »
Since when did this become the Obscure Album of The 80's Thread?

Must be an American thing. Never heard it.

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« Reply #160 on: July 17, 2019, 01:36:36 PM »
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #161 on: July 18, 2019, 07:55:25 AM »
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind

Songs:

1.   Where Eagles Dare
2.   Revelations
3.   Flight of Icarus
4.   Die with Your Boots On
5.   The Trooper
6.   Still Life
7.   Quest for Fire
8.   Sun and Steel
9.   To Tame a Land

I almost bought this album in the '80s.  Almost.  I remember there was this kid named Aaron at the local arcade that was talking this album up SO much that, even though Aaron was kind of a screw up, he made it sound really compelling.  Even though I held out, I'm glad I eventually discovered this band a few years ago.  This album is one of the highlights in their discography.  Other than Sun and Steel, there isn't a weak track on here. 

Oh, and some bands will get more than one album in this thread.  Maiden is one of those bands.
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« Reply #162 on: July 18, 2019, 07:59:43 AM »
My personal favorite Maiden album, alongside Seventh Son.

It contains Revelations, the song that started for me in 1995 the avalanch effect of making me like Bruce's voice and therefore Iron Maiden and therefore heavy metal, but all in all is chock full of awesome and historical songs, great sound, godlike performances from Bruce and all in all Maiden at the very top of their game. Their best album up until that point and one of the very best ever. Not of Maiden, of heavy metal.

Other than Sun and Steel, there isn't a weak track on here. 

You mispelled Quest for Fire.
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« Reply #163 on: July 18, 2019, 08:01:08 AM »
I actually quite like Sun & Steel.  In all honesty, I think this is the most consistent album in the Maiden discography.  Song-for-song, I'd probably put it at the top of my list.  It doesn't have the highs of some other albums, but there isn't a single weak song.  I could probably call at least one 'weak' from any other Maiden album.
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Re: "Classic" album appreciation thread - the '80s
« Reply #164 on: July 18, 2019, 08:01:44 AM »
Where Eagles Dare, Flight of Icarus, Die With Your Boots On, Trooper - awesome.
Revelations, Still Life, To Tame A Land - okay
Quest For Fire, Sun and Steel - 2 of Maiden's worst songs ever.

Decent album - a few awesome tunes marred by several other forgettable/okay songs.
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« Reply #165 on: July 18, 2019, 08:07:33 AM »
You mispelled Quest for Fire.

I most certainly did NOT!  :lol  Question for Fire is awesome.

In all honesty, I think this is the most consistent album in the Maiden discography.  Song-for-song, I'd probably put it at the top of my list. 

I agree.  The only one that rivals it, IMO, is [controversial opinion]The Final Frontier[/controversial opinion].  Somewhere In Time comes close. 
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« Reply #166 on: July 18, 2019, 08:31:32 AM »
Maybe in my top 5-10 Maiden discs.  The album is 100% front-loaded:

Where Eagles Dare, Revelations, Flight of Icarus, Die With Your Boots On, Trooper - every single song just crushes and are Maiden classics.

Still Life, Quest for Fire, Sun and Steel and To Tame a Land are ok.  I rarely listen to them, since the first five songs are so damn good.

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« Reply #167 on: July 18, 2019, 08:39:11 AM »
But Still Life is so beautiful. The truly overlooked gem of Piece of Mind, dwarfed down by the first 5 songs, but an high point on any other (lesser) album otherwise. I'd kill to hear that live and its omission in the Maiden England tour (the 2012-4 revisitation, that's it) is a far, far, far greater setlist crime than never playing Alex the Great.
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« Reply #168 on: July 18, 2019, 08:46:03 AM »
In all honesty, I think this is the most consistent album in the Maiden discography.  Song-for-song, I'd probably put it at the top of my list. 

I agree.  The only one that rivals it, IMO, is [controversial opinion]The Final Frontier[/controversial opinion].  Somewhere In Time comes close.

I violently agree that TFF as most consistent is a controversial opinion.  I just cannot get in to that album for some reason.  I was absolutely thinking SiT is a close rival to PoM as 'most consistent.
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« Reply #169 on: July 18, 2019, 09:53:23 AM »
I think it's a really good and strong album, but honestly, it's mid tier IM for me.  It's only better than TFF in terms of reunion era albums and it's not better than the 3 albums that came after it.  Having said that, those albums are just that good IMO.  Like I said, this is still a good and strong album.  Only downer for me on it is Quest for Fire.  Sun and Steel is cheesy but it's fun.

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« Reply #170 on: July 18, 2019, 09:56:23 AM »
It ain't no Number of the Beast, or even Killers, that's for sure.
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« Reply #171 on: July 18, 2019, 10:06:40 AM »
It ain't no Number of the Beast, or even Killers, that's for sure.

It's somewhere in the mix with those in my mind, great albums none the less.  Iron Maiden is my favorite band, so even being middle of the pack of their albums is pretty high standing for me.

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« Reply #172 on: July 18, 2019, 10:08:14 AM »


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« Reply #174 on: July 18, 2019, 10:49:30 AM »
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind


Probably my favorite Maiden album and easily a top 10 album regardless of the artist.  This is one I could listen to on a loop for the rest of my life and not get bored.  My first exposure to Maiden was the Flight of Icarus video on MTV and then The Trooper.  May also have caught Run to the Hills or TNOTB at some point.  As was the case for a lot of albums in this early stage of my "metalhood," I probably borrowed it from my friend's brother before buying it.  I remember being worried how my mother would react to the album covers (and to the name of TNOTB).  At some point, I got a poster from a live show of this era.

The album kicks you in the face with that opening drum fill in Where Eagles Dare.  I didn't initially care for Revelations but grew to love it -- primarily after Live after Death was released.  Icarus came next, and some of the subtle bass fills and Harris's tone are so good.  Die with Your Boots On is another kick ass song.

I had bought the POM picture disc, so side one close not with DWYBO, but with Cross-Eyed Mary, which is one of my favorite cover songs of all time.

Then side 2 starts with The Trooper.  Check this out for the best cover version ever (the video on the other hand....):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8cN9skvK8o&list=FL3rjktGL2mDM8lsvkjqi0FQ&index=21&t=0s

Still Life is my least favorite song on the album, although I've warmed up to it recently.  For the life of me, I don't understand the hate for QFF.  Sun and Steel is sort of a shorter, faster version of The Trooper.  I love Dave Murray's solo.

The album closes with my favorite Maiden song of all time:  To Tame a Land.  The bit in 3/4 at the start of the instrumental section kicks so much ass it's unbelievable.  I remember spending hours and hours learning to play that properly.  I even like the lyrics, even though I've never read any of the Dune books or seen any screen adaptations.
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