Seneca v3 results

[senecadawg2]

Greetings.

This roulette is going to be a bit different from most that I've played in and certainly different from my first two. I'd like to maximize engagement from the participants, who will be involved in selecting themes throughout the competition and even choosing a winner in the final round. The list of rules will be relatively extensive, but I'm not going to post all of them just yet. (Don't worry, there won't be anything too restrictive, and there will only be two rounds requiring larger submissions, if you make it past the first six or seven rounds.)

It would be helpful to first figure out how many people want to sign up, based on my banned list:

Affector
Agalloch
Alcest
Allen-Lande
Alter Bridge
Amaran's Plight
Amorphis
Anathema
Angra
Ani DiFranco
Animals as Leaders
Anneke Van Giersbergen
The Antlers
Anubis Gate
Arctic Monkeys
Aristocrats
Arjen Anthony Lucassen
Asia
Astronoid
Avantasia
Ayreon
Beardfish
The Beatles
Ben Howard
Bent Knee
Better Oblivion Community Center
Between the Buried and Me
Beyond the Bridge
Big Big Train
Bill Callahan
Billy Joel
Bjork
Black Sabbath
Blackfield
Blind Guardian
Blue Oyster Cult
Boards of Canada
Bob Dylan
Bob Marley
Bob Seger
Bon Iver
Brand New
Braveyoung
Byzantine
The Cars
Caspian
Cat Stevens
Chris Stapleton
Cigarettes After Sex
Circus Maximus
Clint Mansell
Coheed and Cambria
The Contortionist
Converge
Copeland
Counting Crows
The Cure
Damian Wilson
Damien Rice
Dan Swano
Daughter
David Ford
David Gray
Deafheaven
Death
Death Cab for Cutie
The Decemberists
Devin Townsend/DTP/DTB
Dio
Dire Straits
Downfall of Gaia
Dream Evil
Dream Theater
Dredg
Dynazty
Edguy
Emilie Autumn
Enslaved
Enya
Evergrey
Falconer
Fallujah
Fates Warning
Firewind
The Flower Kings
Flying Colors
Frost*
Gazpacho
Genesis
Ghost
Glen Hansard
Gloryhammer
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Gojira
Gorguts
Gotye
Green Carnation
Grimes
Haken
Helker
Hibria
Howard Shore
The Human Abstract
Ihsahn
Iron and Wine
Iron Maiden
James LaBrie
Jarabe de Palo
Jason Isbell
Jeff Buckley
Jethro Tull
John Lennon
Jordan Rudess
Journey
Judas Priest
Julien Baker
Kamelot
Karnivool
Kate Bush
Kauan
Kayo Dot
Keane
Kevin Gilbert
Khorada
The Killers
King Crimson
Lana Del Rey
Laura Marling
Led Zeppelin
Leprous
Levin Minnemann Rudess
Liquid Tension Experiment
Loreena McKennitt
Ludovico Einaudi
The Lumineers
Lunatic Soul
Marillion
Masterplan
Mastodon
Max Richter
Mazzy Star
Meatloaf
Megadeth
Metallica
mewithoutyou
Mogwai
Mr. Bungle
Mumford and Sons
Muse
Musk Ox
My Bloody Valentine
The National
Native Construct
Ne Obliviscaris
Need
Neil Young
Nick Drake
Nightwish
The Ocean
Oceansize
Opeth
Oden Ogan
Overkill
Ozzy Osbourne
Pain of Salvation
Panopticon
Periphery
Persefone
Pete Townshend
Phoebe Bridgers
Pillorian
Pink Floyd
Poets of the Fall
Porcupine Tree
Primordial
The Protomen
Queen
Queensryche
Quiet Riot
Radiohead
Rata Blanca
Ray LaMontagne
Riverside
RPWL
Rush
Sarah Fimm
Savatage
Saxon
Scar Symmetry
Scorpions
Serious Black
Seventh Wonder
Sigur Ros
The Smiths
Soen
Soilwork
SOJA
Sound of Contact
Star One
Steven Wilson
Storm Corossion
Stratovarius
Styx
Sufjan Stevens
Susanne Sundfor
Swallow the Sun
The Swell Season
Sylvan
Symphony X
The Tallest Man on Earth
TesseracT
Thank You Scientist
Threshold
Thrice
Tim Bowness
Tool
Tori Amos
Transatlantic
Triumph
Ulver
Van Morrison
Vanden Plas
Voodoo Circle
Voyager
Wayfarer
A Winged Victory for the Sullen
Wishbone Ash
Withem
Wolves in the Throne Room
Yes
Zelliack


Ask before sending—partially banned (e.g., Bowie) or especially risky (e.g., The Dear Hunter):

American Football
Ben Folds Five
Bruce Springsteen
Crosby Stills & Nash
Darkwater
David Bowie
The Dear Hunter
Destrage
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Dimmu Borgir
Dir en Grey
Dissection
Division Day
Ebony Ark
Eddie Vedder
Electric Light Orchestra
Fen
Fish
Flaming Lips
Fleetwood Mac
Have a Nice Life
Jane's Addiction
Korpiklaani
Kvelertak
Magnus Karlsson
Mandroid Echostar
Marketa Irglova
Mono
The Moody Blues
Neal Morse and all related projects including Spock's Beard
Paul Simon
Peter Gabriel
Psychotic Waltz
Redemption
Rhapsody of Fire
Saor
Second Person
The Shins
Sonata Arctica
Swans
UFO
Woods of Ypres


Banned During Roulette

Agnes Obel
Alkinoos Ioannidis
Andrew Bird
Angels of Light
Arca
Arch/Matheos
Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man
Bizali
Bruce Dickinson
Bullet Height
Caligula's Horse
David Gilmour
Daydream XI
Depeche Mode
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Eden's Curse
Elliott Smith
Explosions In the Sky
The Family Crest
Fish
Flaming Row
Florence + The Machine
Frankie Goes to Hollywood
Goldfrapp
Helloween
Iamthemorning
John Lennon
Katatonia
Kingcrow
La Dispute
Leonard Cohen
Lorde
Luca Turilli's Rhapsody
Mew
Midlake
Minus the Bear
The Night Flight Orchestra
Nightmare
Nine Inch Nails
Obsidian Kingdom
Portishead
The Reticent
Rishloo
The River Empires
Solefald
Solstafir
Stars of the Lid
Temple of the Dog
Thy Catafalque
Type O Negative

Participants (I'd like to gather at least 12, but will definitely take more):

1. TAC (Defending champion)
2. Kattelox
3. romdrums
4. Lethean
5. jingle.boy (v1 champion)
6. puppies_on_acid
7. Stadler
8. Cyril
9. Nekov
10. Tomislav95
11. Ariich
12. Evermind
13. Buddyhunter1
14. FlyingBIZKIT
15. Ruba
16. wolfking
17. Sacul
18. LordCost


TASTE

Just to give an idea, here are some of my favorite artists of late (in no order):

The Smiths
Death Cab for Cutie
Ben Howard
Bob Dylan
Jason Isbell
Phoebe Bridgers
Sufjan Stevens
Cigarettes After Sex
The Protomen
Coheed and Cambria
Bill Callahan

And some favorites of all time (in no order):

Classic Yes, especially Close to the Edge
Most of Rush
Any of Bob Dylans first dozen or so albums
Most of DT
Classic Maiden, especially Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
Every Agalloch album
Every Anathema album
Lateralus and Aenima (Tool)
Lighbulb Sun (PT) and most everything SW has done
Choirs of the Eye (Kayo Dot)
Remedy Lane (Pain of Salvation)
Disintegration (The Cure)
( ) by Sigur Ros
Most Opeth, especially Morningrise, Ghost Reveries, BP


RULES

I'll be using a 10-point scale in all but the final round. Five is not bad but rather average.

[see below for rounds 4–7]

At the end of round 7, the two highest scoring contestants from each group will advance to the knock-out rounds. If there is a tie within a group, the seeds from rounds 1-3 will break the tie

I will pair the winner from group A with the runner-up from group B; the winner from group C with the runner up from group D; etc.

1A---|
        --semi-finalist---|
2B---|                       |
                                 ----finalist
3A---|                       |
        --semi-finalist---|
4B---|

4A---|
        --semi-finalist---|
1B---|                       |
                                 ----finalist
2A---|                       |
        --semi-finalist---|
3B---|


Round 8 submissions will be either an EP, a Greatest Hits compilation (from one band), or a full album. The four top seeds from their respective groups will vote on which format they prefer. In the event of a tie, I will open the vote to the four runners-up. In the event of a second tie, I will ask a random person on the street to break the tie.

Round 9 submissions will be in one of the two formats not selected for round 8 (EP, Greatest Hits, or full album). This will, again, be determined by vote.

If any of these rules don't please you and you'd like to suggest an alternative, I'm more than happy to put it to a vote. However, rule changes will require at least 10 votes, approximately 3/5ths supermajority. This is my roulette, after all


Submissions

There is no length limit for any of these first three rounds (after that, depends on the themes chosen in your group).

My preference for submission is just the name of the artist and song - no link required - so that I can simply look it up on Spotify and throw all the submissions into a single playlist. If you know for sure that it is not on Spotify, you can send it me however else you prefer.

[TAC]

I'm in, but I think I was eliminated right off the bat in the last one, which I don't think was that long ago..

[The Walrus]

Sign me up, I'm ready to get eliminated fast.

[senecadawg2]

I'm in, but I think I was eliminated right off the bat in the last one, which I don't think was that long ago..

Sweet!

You must be confusing me with someone else though, cause you definitely won my last roulette, a few years ago: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42491.245#lastPost

Sign me up, I'm ready to get eliminated fast.

Don't count on it!

[romdrums]

I'm in.

[Lethean]

I'll give it a try.

[senecadawg2]

I'm in.

I'll give it a try.

Great!

[Stadler]

Kiss isn't banned?  I'M IN. 

[Puppies_On_Acid]

Ani DiFranco is banned? I have nothing to send then

[TAC]

I'm in, but I think I was eliminated right off the bat in the last one, which I don't think was that long ago..

Sweet!

You must be confusing me with someone else though, cause you definitely won my last roulette, a few years ago:

You know what...I do!

[senecadawg2]

Kiss isn't banned?  I'M IN.

Ani DiFranco is banned? I have nothing to send then

It would really benefit you to get outside of your comfort zone

[Crow]

Yeah boi     

I've already decided the winner, btw. It's ariich

[Nekov]

Why not, count me in

[The Walrus]

Ani DiFranco is banned? I have nothing to send then

It would really benefit you to get outside of your comfort zone

Ohhh shit. Shots already fired!! 

[jingle.boy]

In like Flynn

[TAC]

I've already decided the winner, btw. It's ariich

I don't think so...

It would be helpful to first figure out how many people want to sign up, based on my banned list:

Affector
Agalloch
Alcest
Allen-Lande
Alter Bridge
Amaran's Plight
Amorphis
Anathema
Angra
Ani DiFranco
Animals as Leaders
Anneke Van Giersbergen
The Antlers
Anubis Gate
Arctic Monkeys
Ariich
Aristocrats
Arjen Anthony Lucassen
Asia
Astronoid
Avantasia
Ayreon
Beardfish
The Beatles
Ben Howard
Bent Knee
Better Oblivion Community Center
Between the Buried and Me
Beyond the Bridge
Big Big Train
Bill Callahan
Billy Joel
Bjork
Black Sabbath
Blackfield
Blind Guardian
Blue Oyster Cult
Boards of Canada
Bob Dylan
Bob Marley
Bob Seger
Bon Iver
Brand New
Braveyoung
Byzantine
The Cars
Caspian
Cat Stevens
Chris Stapleton
Cigarettes After Sex
Circus Maximus
Clint Mansell
Coheed and Cambria
The Contortionist
Converge
Copeland
Counting Crows
The Cure
Damian Wilson
Damien Rice
Dan Swano
Daughter
David Ford
David Gray
Deafheaven
Death
Death Cab for Cutie
The Decemberists
Devin Townsend/DTP/DTB
Dio
Dire Straits
Downfall of Gaia
Dream Evil
Dream Theater
Dredg
Dynazty
Edguy
Emilie Autumn
Enslaved
Enya
Evergrey
Falconer
Fallujah
Fates Warning
Firewind
The Flower Kings
Flying Colors
Frost*
Gazpacho
Genesis
Ghost
Glen Hansard
Gloryhammer
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Gojira
Gorguts
Gotye
Green Carnation
Grimes
Haken
Helker
Hibria
Howard Shore
The Human Abstract
Ihsahn
Iron and Wine
Iron Maiden
James LaBrie
Jarabe de Palo
Jason Isbell
Jeff Buckley
Jethro Tull
John Lennon
Jordan Rudess
Journey
Judas Priest
Kamelot
Karnivool
Kate Bush
Kauan
Kayo Dot
Keane
Kevin Gilbert
Khorada
The Killers
King Crimson
Lana Del Rey
Laura Marling
Led Zeppelin
Leprous
Levin Minnemann Rudess
Liquid Tension Experiment
Loreena McKennitt
Ludovico Einaudi
The Lumineers
Lunatic Soul
Marillion
Masterplan
Mastodon
Max Richter
Mazzy Star
Meatloaf
Megadeth
Metallica
mewithoutyou
Mogwai
Mr. Bungle
Mumford and Sons
Muse
Musk Ox
My Bloody Valentine
The National
Native Construct
Ne Obliviscaris
Need
Neil Young
Nick Drake
Nightwish
The Ocean
Oceansize
Opeth
Oden Ogan
Overkill
Ozzy Osbourne
Pain of Salvation
Panopticon
Periphery
Persefone
Pete Townshend
Phoebe Bridgers
Pillorian
Pink Floyd
Poets of the Fall
Porcupine Tree
Primordial
The Protomen
Queen
Queensryche
Quiet Riot
Radiohead
Rata Blanca
Ray LaMontagne
Riverside
RPWL
Rush
Sarah Fimm
Savatage
Saxon
Scar Symmetry
Scorpions
Serious Black
Seventh Wonder
Sigur Ros
The Smiths
Soen
Soilwork
SOJA
Sound of Contact
Star One
Steven Wilson
Storm Corossion
Stratovarius
Styx
Sufjan Stevens
Susanne Sundfor
Swallow the Sun
The Swell Season
Sylvan
Symphony X
The Tallest Man on Earth
TesseracT
Thank You Scientist
Threshold
Thrice
Tim Bowness
Tool
Tori Amos
Transatlantic
Triumph
Ulver
Van Morrison
Vanden Plas
Voodoo Circle
Voyager
Wayfarer
A Winged Victory for the Sullen
Wishbone Ash
Withem
Wolves in the Throne Room
Yes
Zelliack

[senecadawg2]

Why not, count me in

Great!

[Tomislav95]

IIIIIINNNNNN!

[senecadawg2]

IIIIIINNNNNN!

Gotcha 

[Evermind]

Time to pay my debt for Agalloch and Thrice and Helker and whatnot. Let's do this.

I choose the djent theme.

[Puppies_On_Acid]

Ani DiFranco is banned? I have nothing to send then

It would really benefit you to get outside of your comfort zone

Ohhh shit. Shots already fired!! 

Now he's getting nothing but Raw Black Metal......and only the stuff that sounds like it was recorded in a bathroom with a potato. 

[Crow]

My theme is "music that sounds good"

[senecadawg2]

Lol, y'all are slightly confused about the themes.

I'll be posting the rules in the next 14 hours or so, hopefully by then we'll have the final tally of gladiators.

[Buddyhunter1]

Regarding the whole "maximizing engagement from the participants" thing, will we be required to dedicate much time to this outside of just sending you songs? I'd be interested in joining, but I'm trying not to over-commit myself given that my own roulette will likely take up a lot of my time.

[Crow]

My theme is "Death Metal Bands From Andorra"

[senecadawg2]

I may have overstated the point. There may be things to vote on (this will not be mandatory) and you will have to choose a theme for one of the rounds, should you make it that far, but overall it shouldnt require any more time than a normal roulette. The engagement im looking for is mainly shithousery between y'all.

[TAC]

I vote for Shithousery for one of the themes!

[Buddyhunter1]

Alright, count me in then.

[TAC]

What's the first theme? Ready to send!

[jingle.boy]

My theme is "Death Metal Bands From Andorra"

Omg... I did a grade 10 Geography project on the nation of Andorra.  I subtitled it "The place where there is very little place". 

[Puppies_On_Acid]

My theme is "Death Metal Bands From Andorra"

Omg... I did a grade 10 Geography project on the nation of Andorra.  I subtitled it "The place where there is very little place". 

Just out of curiosity I checked my RYM page to see if I had any bands from Andorra. The only 2 that could be considered Death Metal would be Persefone and Nami. Both great bands too and both leaning more towards Progressive Death Metal.

[senecadawg2]

Nami is not banned!

[Ruba]

Dang, I would've been interested but apparently everyone and their wives have already signed in.

[senecadawg2]

Dang, I would've been interested but apparently everyone and their wives have already signed in.

No problem! If youre still interested, you make fifteen 

[wolfking]

If there's still room mate, I'll play.  If not, no probs.  16 seems like a lot.