Author Topic: "Perfect" albums? (Read 4799 times)

LKap13 · « **on:** May 21, 2019, 07:05:13 PM »

Do you consider any of these albums to be "perfect"?

Edit - having trouble figuring out how to allow selection of multiple options

Herrick · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2019, 07:31:21 PM »

Perfect as in I like/love every track? Probably Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence even though it isn't my favorite album.

bosk1 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2019, 07:58:13 PM »

They wrote a couple of masterpiece albums before Mangini joined the band. After he joined, they wrote three perfect albums.

54_diplomats · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2019, 08:02:21 PM »

I&W, Awake and SFAM are perfect imo. I want to include 6DOIT but it falls a bit short.

TAC · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2019, 08:02:44 PM »

Quote from: bosk1 on May 21, 2019, 07:58:13 PM

They wrote a couple of masterpiece albums before Mangini joined the band. After he joined, they wrote three perfect albums.

The Astonishing Disc 1 and The Astonishing Disc 2... and what was the other one?

Volante99 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2019, 08:45:20 PM »

Images and Awake. Great albums from start to finish.

SFaM comes close but Through Her Eyes with those dated 90s Spice Girls drums take it down a notch.

Ninjabait · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2019, 08:58:38 PM »

I'd say Scenes from a Memory, SDoIT, Octavarium, ADToE, and The Astonishing are the only albums they've done that are 10/10 or close to it.

Herrick · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:38:17 PM »

Quote from: Volante99 on May 21, 2019, 08:45:20 PM

Images and Awake. Great album from start to finish.

SFaM comes close but Through Her Eyes with those dated 90s Spice Girls drums take it down a notch.

For me it's the "Ooooh yeah! Whoooo-oohhh!!! Yeah!" part in Through Her Eyes.

MirrorMask · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2019, 01:00:49 AM »

Images and Words, Awake and Scenes from a Memory

Phoenix87x · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2019, 03:55:12 AM »

Images and words
Train of thought
Scenes from a memory

krands85 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2019, 04:26:39 AM »

I&W is about as close as you could get to perfect I think. Even then, lots of people would still have issues with the drums and 'dated' sound (though they don't bother me).

Scenes isn't too far off as well - despite it being only my number 4 album - but I don't think it has the real standout, killer tracks of other albums. I find it more of a 'greater than the sum of its parts' album.

If you were going more for which albums are really consistent without any weak tracks/tracks I don't like, then I'd also probably say: Train of Thought, Distance Over Time and Awake.

Zydar · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2019, 04:49:18 AM »

I only consider I&W to be perfect, as in I really like/love every track. I have no problem with the dated production or the drums.

Max Kuehnau · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2019, 04:57:07 AM »

Aside from my (personal) nagging problem of pathos in DT's music (pathos is absolutely unnecessary in any kind of music IMHO), the only ones close to perfection are DT12 and ADTOE IMHO. (MM could have played more notes on both of these though. The man shouldn't be restrained.) These two are the only ones I listen to regularly.

Grappler · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2019, 06:15:51 AM »

Images & Words and Awake.

The Walrus · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2019, 07:20:51 AM »

Images and Six Degrees, personally.

Shalev Amir · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2019, 08:00:17 AM »

I&W, Awake, SFAM and SDOIT don't have any bad songs. ToT is flawless as well but it's too one-sided for me to call it perfect. 8VM is the opposite for me, perfect with one bad song SS...

Peter Mc · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2019, 08:06:35 AM »

Only Images and Words for me, not one song I don’t love and nothing even within those songs that I don’t love, I love every single second of every single song. Scenes comes close but there are some instrumental sections within the songs that I don’t love. To be honest the new album is pretty solid in that there’s nothing on there I would skip and nothing instrumentally that drags songs down, it’s all really good. Not sure I absolutely love everything though, some of it is just really good rather than masterpiece level like I&W.

Dublagent66 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2019, 08:36:19 AM »

Perfect doesn't exist, but some of their albums come pretty close.

LKap13 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2019, 09:11:25 AM »

Quote from: Peter Mc on May 22, 2019, 08:06:35 AM

Only Images and Words for me, not one song I don’t love and nothing even within those songs that I don’t love, I love every single second of every single song. Scenes comes close but there are some instrumental sections within the songs that I don’t love. To be honest the new album is pretty solid in that there’s nothing on there I would skip and nothing instrumentally that drags songs down, it’s all really good. Not sure I absolutely love everything though, some of it is just really good rather than masterpiece level like I&W.

Agree with all this

KevShmev · « **Reply #19 on:** May 22, 2019, 09:17:08 AM »

Awake is their one perfect album.

I would say Scenes if it wasn't for The Dance of Eternity.

Not sure how anyone can say 6DOIT when it has that unnecessarily long fadeout at the end of the titular suite.

I&W is pretty damn close, but while the triggered snare is part of its charm, it can grate just a tad if it hits me on the wrong day.

pg1067 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 22, 2019, 10:18:33 AM »

I know I'm on an island by myself with this one, but only UAGM prevents I&W from being "perfect" for me.

Other songs that prevent they albums they're on from being "perfect":

Awake: Innocence Faded, The Mirror and Lie

FII: New Millennium is the biggest stinker on this album, but none of the other songs would make for a "perfect" album. However, You Not Me, Hollow Years, Hell's Kitchen, Anna Lee and Trial of Tears would have made a pretty good EP.

SDOIT: The Great Debate and Disappear

TOT: Honor Thy Father and This Dying Soul

8VA: I Walk Beside You and the continuum intro to the title track

SC: Repentance is the biggest stinker on this album, but none of the other songs would make for a "perfect" album except Constant Motion

BC&SL: ANTR, AROP and TBOT

ADTOE: OTBOA, LNF, BITS, Outcry, BAI and BTS would make for a "perfect" album. The rest has the feel of "filler" for me.

DOT: Still to early to decide.

The albums not mentioned don't have any major stinkers but simply aren't good enough to be considered "perfect" (and TA is in a category all to itself).

Mladen · « **Reply #21 on:** May 22, 2019, 10:52:49 AM »

SFAM and I&W are the only two albums that qualify for consideration in my opinion.

The Walrus · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2019, 12:10:25 PM »

Quote from: pg1067 on May 22, 2019, 10:18:33 AM

I know I'm on an island by myself with this one, but only UAGM prevents I&W from being "perfect" for me.

This belongs in the controversial opinions thread, STAT!!

LKap13 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2019, 12:15:51 PM »

Nice turnout for Distance over Time. I like it!

pg1067 · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2019, 01:03:24 PM »

Quote from: Kattelox on May 22, 2019, 12:10:25 PM

Quote from: pg1067 on May 22, 2019, 10:18:33 AM
I know I'm on an island by myself with this one, but only UAGM prevents I&W from being "perfect" for me.

This belongs in the controversial opinions thread, STAT!!

It's probably in there somewhere. I don't know why, but I've just never really liked it (although I do like that thing that JP did a couple times with the whammy bar during his solo). It has always felt like such a lull sandwiched in between Metropolis and WFS/LTL.

Lethean · « **Reply #25 on:** May 22, 2019, 02:16:02 PM »

Quote from: pg1067 on May 22, 2019, 01:03:24 PM

Quote from: Kattelox on May 22, 2019, 12:10:25 PM
Quote from: pg1067 on May 22, 2019, 10:18:33 AM
I know I'm on an island by myself with this one, but only UAGM prevents I&W from being "perfect" for me.

This belongs in the controversial opinions thread, STAT!!

It's probably in there somewhere. I don't know why, but I've just never really liked it (although I do like that thing that JP did a couple times with the whammy bar during his solo). It has always felt like such a lull sandwiched in between Metropolis and WFS/LTL.

Under a Glass Moon is

(So are the other songs you mentioned - I could see it getting overlooked at first, but....)

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 22, 2019, 02:58:22 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on May 22, 2019, 09:17:08 AM

Awake is their one perfect album.

This.

Quote from: KevShmev on May 22, 2019, 09:17:08 AM

I&W is pretty damn close, but while the triggered snare is part of its charm, it can grate just a tad if it hits me on the wrong day.

Also this.

Evai · « **Reply #27 on:** May 22, 2019, 04:42:23 PM »

Astonishing is the only one I voted for

silentmac6 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 23, 2019, 05:09:29 AM »

I'm not sure that DT have ever made a perfect album. Even Awake, or I&W, have a track or two that are good as opposed to great (TM, Lie, AD, WfS). This of course is also represented in the rest of the DT catalogue. However I voted for Awake predictably.

CrimsonSunrise · « **Reply #29 on:** May 23, 2019, 05:40:00 AM »

I&W
Awake
6DOIT

bosk1 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 23, 2019, 08:19:25 AM »

I just don't understand the votes for I&W.

Max Kuehnau · « **Reply #31 on:** May 23, 2019, 08:21:30 AM »

Quote from: bosk1 on May 23, 2019, 08:19:25 AM

I just don't understand the votes for I&W.

me either, but I think it's because I/W is an accessible (and therefore easily digestible) record. It seems to be human nature to gravitate towards that aspect of music.

LKap13 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 23, 2019, 08:38:15 AM »

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on May 23, 2019, 08:21:30 AM

Quote from: bosk1 on May 23, 2019, 08:19:25 AM
I just don't understand the votes for I&W.
me either, but I think it's because I/W is an accessible (and therefore easily digestible) record. It seems to be human nature to gravitate towards that aspect of music.

I have to disagree with this. I&W has amazing staying power. In my experience, music that's "easily digestible" and accessible gets old after a few listens.

bosk1 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 23, 2019, 08:46:05 AM »

I get "accessible." But when an album has only 4 good songs, I'm not sure how you can consider it "perfect" no matter how accessible those songs are.

The Walrus · « **Reply #34 on:** May 23, 2019, 08:51:10 AM »

Quote from: bosk1 on May 23, 2019, 08:46:05 AM

I get "accessible." But when an album has only 4 good songs, I'm not sure how you can consider it "perfect" no matter how accessible those songs are.

Only 4 good songs on I&W?! Bosk, you are high as a kite!

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