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Offline The Letter M

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Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« on: April 06, 2019, 11:15:37 AM »
Hello and welcome to my 4th Annual(?) Spock's Beard Survivor, for the 2019 season! Here I will post the album results, and eventually, the finals!

To start off with, I'll post the track lists/options for each survivor, then as we finish each album, I'll update the track lists with the final results.

As usual, the top two songs on each album go to the finals, and each album's 3rd place song will move to Consolation, with the exception of Snow, which will have it's 5th and 6th place songs move into Consolation, while it's top 4 songs will move to the Finals (as I have done with previous double albums in other Survivors).

Because of that, the Consolation Rounds will consist of 14 songs (2 from Snow, and 1 each from the other 12 albums) and the Finals will consist of at least 32 songs (4 from Snow, and 2 from each of the other 12 albums, plus the top 2 of the Consolation Rounds and the top 2-4 from the B-Sides/Bonus Tracks Survivor*).

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The Light
1. The Water
2. The Light

3. Go The Way You Go
4. On The Edge

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Beware Of Darkness
1. The Doorway
2. Walking On The Wind

3. Thoughts
4. Time Has Come
5. Waste Away
6. Beware Of Darkness
7. Chatauqua

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The Kindness Of Strangers
1. Flow
2. Harm's Way

3. The Good Don't Last
4. June
5. In The Mouth Of Madness
6. Strange World
7. Cakewalk On Easy Street

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Day For Night
1. The Healing Colors Of Sound
2. Day For Night

3. Crack The Big Sky
4. Skin
5. Gibberish
6. The Distance To The Sun
7. The Gypsy
8. Can't Get It Wrong

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V
1. At The End Of The Day
2. The Great Nothing

3. Revelation
4. Thoughts Part 2
5. All On A Sunday
6. Goodbye To Yesterday

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Snow
Made Alive / Overture
Stranger In A Strange Land
Long Time Suffering
Welcome To NYC
Love Beyond Words
The 39th Street Blues (I'm Sick)
Devil's Got My Throat
Open Wide The Flood Gates
Open The Gates Part 2
Solitary Soul
Wind At My Back

Second Overture
4th Of July
I'm The Guy
Reflection
Carie
Looking For Answers
Freak Boy
All Is Vanity
I'm Dying
Freak Boy Part 2
Devil's Got My Throat Reprise
Snow's Night Out
Ladies And Gentlemen, Mister Ryo Okumoto On The Keyboards
I Will Go
Made Alive / Wind At My Back

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Feel Euphoria
Onomatopoeia
The Bottom Line
Feel Euphoria
Shining Star
East Of Eden, West Of Memphis
Ghosts Of Autumn
A Guy Named Sid
Carry On

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Octane
A Flash Before My Eyes
NWC
There Was A Time
The Planet's Hum
Watching The Tide
As Long As We Ride

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Spock's Beard
On A Perfect Day
Skeletons At The Feast
Is This Love?
All That's Left
With Your Kiss
Sometimes They Stay, Sometimes They Go
The Slow Crash Landing Man
Wherever You Stand
Hereafter
As Far As The Mind Can See
Rearranged

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X
Edge Of The In-Between
Kamikaze
The Emperor's Clothes
From The Darkness
The Quiet House
The Man Behind The Curtain
Jaws Of Heaven

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Brief Nocturnes & Dreamless Sleep
Hiding Out
I Know Your Secret
A Treasure Abandoned
Submerged
Afterthoughts
Something Very Strange
Waiting For Me

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The Oblivion Particle
Tides Of Time
Minion
Hell's Not Enough
Bennett Built A Time Machine
Get Out While You Can
A Better Way To Fly
The Center Line
To Be Free Again
Disappear

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Noise Floor
To Breathe Another Day
What Becomes Of Me
Somebody's Home
Have We All Gone Crazy Yet
So This Is Life
One So Wise
Box Of Spiders
Beginnings

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Bonus Tracks, B-Sides & Non-Album Tracks
Into Fire
Stratus (Cover)
Hurt (Cover)
The Truth
Southside Of The Sky (Cover)
Moth Of Many Flames
From The Messenger
When She's Gone
Follow Me To Sleep
Game Face
Broken Promise Land
Listening To The Sky
A Hypernova Explosion (Japanese Exclusive)
Red Sea (Japanese Exclusive)
Their Names Escape Me
The Man You're Afraid You Are
Down A Burning Road
Wish I Were Here
Postcards From Perdition
Iron Man (Cover)
Falling For Forever
Days We'll Remember
Bulletproof
Vault
Armageddon Nervous
Save Our Souls (Japanese Exclusive)

*Note- the last time I did this, I apparently allowed the top 4 songs of this survivor move on to the Finals, and I might again considering there are 24 tracks this time, a lot of which come from the Ted-Era.

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Consolation
Go The Way You Go
Thoughts
The Good Don't Last
Crack The Big Sky
Revelation

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Finals
The Water
The Light
The Doorway
Walking On The Wind
Flow
Harm's Way
The Healing Colors Of Sound
Day For Night
At The End Of The Day
The Great Nothing

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-Marc.
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Offline The Letter M

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2019, 11:25:15 AM »
Some points to discuss if anyone has any opinions one way or the other:

1- I was wondering if anyone would think it better or worse if I split up "A Flash Before My Eyes" into its six separate tracks for the Octane survivor. The last three times I've done the SB Survivor, it was done as one track, and I don't think anyone really objected to it, but I was wondering if changing it would make any difference for anyone here?

2- Should I continue to include the covers in the Bonus Tracks/B-Side/Non-Album Songs survivor? I did last time, and there's only four of them. Like Snow (and other double-albums I've run in the past), this B-Sides Survivor will probably start with multiple-vote/multi-elimination rounds to help narrow it down pretty quickly, and help voters knock out multiple songs they probably don't like as much as the others, rather than drag the whole thing out for 25 rounds.

3- Japanese Exclusive Bonus Tracks. There are three that I am aware of, two from SB9 ("A Hypernova Explosion" and "Red Sea") and one from Noise Floor ("Save Our Souls"). Should I bother including them, since I'm sure I'm one of the few SB fans that actually owns or have actually even heard them?

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2019, 12:27:57 PM »
Nice! Looking forward to this. First time competing for Noise Floor, if I'm correct. As for the questions:

1. I think Flash should be listed as one song. If you split Flash, you have to split the other NDV-era epics, because what's the difference?

2. I guess on the same principle of consistency, you have to include the covers in the non-album survivor, because of Beware of Darkness, the George Harrison cover that's the title track of their second album.

3. I've never heard those songs, so...eh? I dunno...
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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2019, 12:44:17 PM »
Definitely one song. I imagine you'll do Healing Colours, As Far As The Mind Can See, and Sid as one track too right?

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2019, 01:12:27 PM »
Definitely one song. I imagine you'll do Healing Colours, As Far As The Mind Can See, and Sid as one track too right?

I think the one difference between AFBME and those other indexed-epics is that AFBME, if I recall, had multiple and different writers for its separate tracks, while THCOS, AGNS, and AFATMCS were all written by one (or two) people - Neal, Nick, and Meros/Boegehold respectively. That was my only line of thinking with regards to separating Flash into its seven tracks, but if most people want it kept together as one, I will leave it as such! I just wanted to throw out that possibility!

And yes, RoeDent, this is the first SB Survivor to feature Noise Floor. The last time I did it was in 2016, just several months after The Oblivion Particle and The First Twenty Years were released.

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2019, 01:59:14 PM »
Some points to discuss if anyone has any opinions one way or the other:

1- I was wondering if anyone would think it better or worse if I split up "A Flash Before My Eyes" into its six separate tracks for the Octane survivor. The last three times I've done the SB Survivor, it was done as one track, and I don't think anyone really objected to it, but I was wondering if changing it would make any difference for anyone here?

One track please, even though the band plays parts of it live, without doing the whole song.

2- Should I continue to include the covers in the Bonus Tracks/B-Side/Non-Album Songs survivor? I did last time, and there's only four of them. Like Snow (and other double-albums I've run in the past), this B-Sides Survivor will probably start with multiple-vote/multi-elimination rounds to help narrow it down pretty quickly, and help voters knock out multiple songs they probably don't like as much as the others, rather than drag the whole thing out for 25 rounds.

I don't know half the B-sides, so I will abstain for the most part of the Survivor, only to show up in the last round to make sure both Their Names Escape Me and Falling for Forever win.

3- Japanese Exclusive Bonus Tracks. There are three that I am aware of, two from SB9 ("A Hypernova Explosion" and "Red Sea") and one from Noise Floor ("Save Our Souls"). Should I bother including them, since I'm sure I'm one of the few SB fans that actually owns or have actually even heard them?

-Marc.

I have never heard them, but I haven't heard a lot of the bonus tracks.
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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2019, 02:05:20 PM »
I can't make up my mind regarding the suites.  :lol

Whichever way you choose to approach them has its arguments, so you might as well trust your judgement.

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2019, 09:34:45 AM »
The Light's Final Round's Results:
The Light 6 (60%)
The Water 4 (40%)

1. The Water
2. The Light
3. Go The Way You Go
4. On The Edge

Well, in a slight twist to the last two times I've run this survivor, "The Light" places second instead of first, with the epic track "The Water" placing first! It's no big deal, though, since both songs will move into the finals with "Go The Way You Go" going to the Consolation Rounds.

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2019, 03:41:00 PM »
Glad to see The Water win out. The Light is certainly more iconic, but I think The Water is just the more impactful song overall.

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2019, 04:42:35 AM »
Are you going to add the songs to the Consolation and Finals lists above as they qualify?
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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2019, 10:41:01 AM »
Are you going to add the songs to the Consolation and Finals lists above as they qualify?

Ahh, yes, thank you. It's been a couple years since my last survivor, so if I forget to do anything, like updating the Consolation/Finals lists as each album finishes, please let me know. I'm still getting back into the swing of things running this!

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2019, 06:55:35 PM »
Beware Of Darkness' Final Round's Results:
The Doorway 3 (27.3%)
Walking On The Wind 8 (72.7%)

1. The Doorway
2. Walking On The Wind
3. Thoughts
4. Time Has Come
5. Waste Away
6. Beware Of Darkness
7. Chatauqua

Looking back at the 2016 and 2013 Survivors, it looks like the top 4 on this album ranking was the exact same, with the bottom three rotating around a bit. Seems pretty consistent to me, I suppose "The Doorway" and "Walking On The Wind" will always place 1st and 2nd! :lol

-Marc.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2019, 10:55:42 PM »
The Kindness Of Strangers' Final Round's Results:
Harm's Way 8 (80%)
Flow 2 (20%)

1. Flow
2. Harm's Way
3. The Good Don't Last
4. June
5. In The Mouth Of Madness
6. Strange World
7. Cakewalk On Easy Street

The results here are about as proggy as you could get - the three longest songs placed in the top 3 spots!

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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2019, 10:57:56 PM »
Day For Night's Final Round's Results:
Day For Night 7 (70%)
The Healing Colors Of Sound 3 (30%)

1. The Healing Colors Of Sound
2. Day For Night
3. Crack The Big Sky
4. Skin
5. Gibberish
6. The Distance To The Sun
7. The Gypsy
8. Can't Get It Wrong

The album's closing epic take the top spot, but both it and the opening/title track move on to the Finals!

V is wrapping up and Snow is just starting! Once V is over, I'l begin with Feel Euphoria!

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2019, 08:32:06 AM »
Still think people are severely underrating The Gypsy. Lower than Skin, Distance, and Gibberish?

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2019 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2019, 07:36:55 PM »
Still think people are severely underrating The Gypsy. Lower than Skin, Distance, and Gibberish?

I agree it's a great song.  I'm sure I kept it voted in as long as I could!!!

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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2019, 10:30:31 PM »
V's Final Round's Results:
At The End Of The Day 3 (27.3%)
The Great Nothing 8 (72.7%)

1. At The End Of The Day
2. The Great Nothing
3. Revelation
4. Thoughts Part 2
5. All On A Sunday
6. Goodbye To Yesterday

Looking back at the 2016 Survivor, the top 2 remain the same, and in the same position, and so both of V's epics move on to the Finals!

In the coming weeks, we will get through Snow, and the first couple NDV-era albums! If you haven't spun those in awhile, definitely give them some love because those NDV albums have some great stuff in them, too!

-Marc.
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