Author Topic: Metropolis Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper or Home? (Read 3425 times)

WildRanger · « **on:** April 05, 2019, 10:48:01 AM »

Two popular DT tracks from the 90's.
Take your pick.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2019, 10:50:31 AM »

Metropolis

TheGreatPretender · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2019, 10:56:41 AM »

The best parts of Home were the nods to Metropolis, and without Metropolis, there would be no Home, or those parts wouldn't have nearly the impact that they do. So yeah, Metropolis, without question.

Dublagent66 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2019, 11:14:19 AM »

Metro, but really like Home too.

geeeemo · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2019, 11:15:30 AM »

Home top 10, maybe even top 5.

Metropolis not top 20.

Grappler · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2019, 11:20:24 AM »

Metropolis Pt. 1. Easy choice.

mikeyd23 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 05, 2019, 11:30:19 AM »

Quote from: Dublagent66 on April 05, 2019, 11:14:19 AM

Metro, but really like Home too.

Yup.

bosk1 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2019, 11:31:43 AM »

They are both great songs. But this pretty much sums up why I picked Metropolis:

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 05, 2019, 10:56:41 AM

The best parts of Home were the nods to Metropolis, and without Metropolis, there would be no Home, or those parts wouldn't have nearly the impact that they do. So yeah, Metropolis, without question.

home · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2019, 11:32:58 AM »

Quote from: Dublagent66 on April 05, 2019, 11:14:19 AM

Metro, but really like Home too.

MirrorMask · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2019, 11:38:13 AM »

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on April 05, 2019, 10:56:41 AM

The best parts of Home were the nods to Metropolis, and without Metropolis, there would be no Home, or those parts wouldn't have nearly the impact that they do. So yeah, Metropolis, without question.

This.

Still, Home is fantastic, but Metropolis > basically almost anything.

Setlist Scotty · « **Reply #10 on:** April 05, 2019, 11:57:46 AM »

Home by a country mile.

Metropolis is good, but I wouldn't rate it as highly as everyone else seems to.

pg1067 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 05, 2019, 12:25:17 PM »

Home is a de facto Metropolis Part 2. Both are top 10 DT songs, but I have to give the nod to the original.

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2019, 12:38:40 PM »

Quote from: Grappler on April 05, 2019, 11:20:24 AM

Metropolis Pt. 1. Easy choice.

cramx3 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 05, 2019, 01:19:42 PM »

Home is one of my favorite DT songs. I love Metropolis too, but Home has the vocal melodies that make it more enjoyable to me.

KevShmev · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2019, 01:49:56 PM »

Metropolis is better, but the fact that Home wouldn't exist without Metropolis having happened first is totally irrelevant.

bosk1 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2019, 01:57:06 PM »

Except for it being totally relevant, I agree with everything you just said.

TheCountOfNYC · « **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2019, 02:05:56 PM »

Home by a hair. They’re both brilliant songs though.

Max Kuehnau · « **Reply #17 on:** April 05, 2019, 02:13:24 PM »

Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on April 05, 2019, 02:05:56 PM

Home by a hair. They’re both brilliant songs though.

By which one's hair? Jordan's long hair (20 years ago) or MP's fairly short hair?

(predictable, I know. Sorry.)

RoeDent · « **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2019, 02:21:10 PM »

Pre-empting DT The League, I see? There's a chance we could get to vote for this all over again at some point in the next 30-odd weeks.

Ninjabait · « **Reply #19 on:** April 05, 2019, 02:22:39 PM »

Home would have won, if it wasn't for that...uh, awkward middle section. It's a great song outside of that one bit.

So I guess Metropolis. They're both really good tho.

TAC · « **Reply #20 on:** April 05, 2019, 02:26:17 PM »

In the music dictionary the definition of Dream Theater IS Metropolis Pt.1.

Bertielee · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2019, 03:31:39 AM »

Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2019, 02:26:17 PM

In the music dictionary the definition of Dream Theater IS Metropolis Pt.1.

Totally agree. The song alone made me a DT fan.

B.Lee

Max Kuehnau · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2019, 03:53:55 AM »

Quote from: Bertielee on April 06, 2019, 03:31:39 AM

Quote from: TAC on April 05, 2019, 02:26:17 PM
In the music dictionary the definition of Dream Theater IS Metropolis Pt.1.

Totally agree. The song alone made me a DT fan.

B.Lee

Might have been the same in my case, coming to think of it (can't remember too well, was 21 years ago), either way, Met1 may have been the first ever DT piece I listened to as a child. Was very impressed by it at the time.

MirrorMask · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2019, 04:38:17 AM »

Quote from: pg1067 on April 05, 2019, 12:25:17 PM

Home is a de facto Metropolis Part 2.

I remember addressing this previously... I think the 99% of people here agree that Scenes from a Memory is one of the greatest things ever happened to mankind, along the invention of the wheel and human rights, but anyone feels that, in the end, we didn't really get a "Metropolis Part 2 - the song"? as in, another song in the same style of Metropolis such as This Dying Soul is a direct continuation of The Glass Prison?

Well, I still prefer Scenes from a Memory as an album rather than the potentially 25 minutes long Metropolis part 2 that the demo of the song hinted at, but if there had been a Metropolis part 2 song, it definitively would have been Home. Another song with musical and lyrical callbacks to the original, such as in the AA saga.

TheGreatPretender · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06, 2019, 05:57:16 AM »

Quote from: MirrorMask on April 06, 2019, 04:38:17 AM

I remember addressing this previously... I think the 99% of people here agree that Scenes from a Memory is one of the greatest things ever happened to mankind, along the invention of the wheel and human rights, but anyone feels that, in the end, we didn't really get a "Metropolis Part 2 - the song"? as in, another song in the same style of Metropolis such as This Dying Soul is a direct continuation of The Glass Prison?

Well, I still prefer Scenes from a Memory as an album rather than the potentially 25 minutes long Metropolis part 2 that the demo of the song hinted at, but if there had been a Metropolis part 2 song, it definitively would have been Home. Another song with musical and lyrical callbacks to the original, such as in the AA saga.

If Home in itself was called Metropolis Part 2, as in the song, then in comparison, it would've been a woefully inferior follow up to Metropolis. Ultimately, I think what they did was smart, because I mean, we did get an idea of what Metropolis Part 2 the song would have sounded like in the Falling Into Infinity Demos, and it wouldn't have been like Home, so maybe in the end, a 20 minute epic like that, which incorporates what we now know as various parts of the Scenes album, would've been incredibly well received, but maybe it would have ended up being an underwhelming sequel no matter what, given how awesome, and generally loved the song Metropolis is.
So in the end, it was probably the right decision to make the follow-up, Metropolis Part 2, a whole album, instead of just one sequel song.

Fritzinger · « **Reply #25 on:** April 06, 2019, 11:12:54 AM »

Metropolis, a hundred times Metropolis.

While Home is a great song, I never understood why so many people consider it one of their favourite songs or even their favourite song by Dream Theater. I'd even rank it in the lower half of all songs on Metropolis Pt.2. The best part of it is the ending in my opinion.

Metropolis is also not the best song on its album, but it's still a masterpiece. That shows what kind of album I&W is, if a song like Metropolis is not even the best one on it

But with Learning To Live being on the same album...

Volante99 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 06, 2019, 11:53:32 AM »

Quote from: Fritzinger on April 06, 2019, 11:12:54 AM

Metropolis, a hundred times Metropolis.

While Home is a great song, I never understood why so many people consider it one of their favourite songs or even their favourite song by Dream Theater. I'd even rank it in the lower half of all songs on Metropolis Pt.2. The best part of it is the ending in my opinion.

Metropolis is also not the best song on its album, but it's still a masterpiece. That shows what kind of album I&W is, if a song like Metropolis is not even the best one on it But with Learning To Live being on the same album...

Agreed with everything you said.

“Home” is fine, middle of the road DT for me. Decent riff, good JP solo, VERY strong vocal melodies. However, it really has no business being over 12 minutes long. It also has that “middle eastern” flavor, kind of like DT’s answer to Metallica’s “Wherever I May Roam” or Tool’s “Forty Six & 2”.

“Metropolis 1” on the other hand is a landmark in the prog metal genre, totally original, insane display of musicianship that we’ve come to love. One of DT’s finest.

Peter Mc · « **Reply #27 on:** April 06, 2019, 01:43:48 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on April 05, 2019, 01:49:56 PM

Metropolis is better, but the fact that Home wouldn't exist without Metropolis having happened first is totally irrelevant.

Agreed, it’s a simple question, which song do you like more? Which one came first and which one inspired the other doesn’t matter. All that matters is which one is better in your opinion. That being said it’s Metropolis Pt 1 by miles!

Herrick · « **Reply #28 on:** April 06, 2019, 03:23:06 PM »

Quote from: Grappler on April 05, 2019, 11:20:24 AM

Metropolis Pt. 1. Easy choice.

Agreed.

Quote from: Peter Mc on April 06, 2019, 01:43:48 PM

Quote from: KevShmev on April 05, 2019, 01:49:56 PM
Metropolis is better, but the fact that Home wouldn't exist without Metropolis having happened first is totally irrelevant.

Agreed, it’s a simple question, which song do you like more? Which one came first and which one inspired the other doesn’t matter. All that matters is which one is better in your opinion. That being said it’s Metropolis Pt 1 by miles!

Agreed.

Trav86 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 06, 2019, 08:29:05 PM »

Metropolis is a 10
Home is a 9

Madman Shepherd · « **Reply #30 on:** April 06, 2019, 08:50:24 PM »

This one is tricky. I think I actually prefer Home but if I was to objectively look at it, I think Metropolis is the superior song so I went with that.

ThatOneGuy2112 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 06, 2019, 10:15:46 PM »

Metropolis still remains my favorite DT song of all time, so that, though Home is fantastic too.

Dedalus · « **Reply #32 on:** April 06, 2019, 11:08:02 PM »

Metropolis Pt. 1 or anything?

Metropolis

Herrick · « **Reply #33 on:** April 06, 2019, 11:40:01 PM »

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on April 06, 2019, 08:50:24 PM

This one is tricky. I think I actually prefer Home but if I was to objectively look at it, I think Metropolis is the superior song so I went with that.

What makes Metropolis Part 1 objectively better than Home?

Jaffa · « **Reply #34 on:** April 07, 2019, 12:23:15 AM »

Home is an absolutely fantastic song.

Metropolis is a lot better.

News: Video of online chat between fans and members of Dream Theater: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx8cLlXnHpA&feature=youtu.be (*no chickens were harmed during the filming of this chat)

Poll

Metropolis Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper or Home?

Author Topic: Metropolis Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper or Home? (Read 3425 times)