Author Topic: Outcry (Read 2006 times)

spw5150 · « **on:** March 14, 2019, 07:35:59 PM »

went on a DT binge on my iTunes , listening to everything from the entire catalog and happened upon this song. I have always loved it but for some reason, tonight, it really hit me. This is in my Top 5 songs of DT. So epic and powerful and everyone shines on this one. Great damn song !!!

The Letter M · « **Reply #1 on:** March 14, 2019, 08:06:10 PM »

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=27696.0

You can read more thoughts on this song in the dedicated thread above! Granted, it hasn't had any posts since July 2013, but there's some good discussion there.

-Marc.

KevShmev · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2019, 06:53:26 AM »

Eh, if a thread hasn't had a post in nearly six years, it is probably time for a new one. New threads often get more replies than resurrected threads from years ago anyway.

Anyway, I don't listen to Outcry that much anymore, but I listened to it like crazy for a while after the release of ADTOE; I need to give it a fresh spin. Really good song, for sure.

bosk1 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2019, 09:25:19 AM »

Initially, it was my favorite song off of ADTOE. Now, after the passage of time, I'd be hard pressed to choose between that, Bridges in the Sky, and Beneath the Surface.

TheGreatPretender · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2019, 10:06:42 AM »

I don't love it now as much as I did when I first heard the album. I mean, it was their first album post-Portnoy, and this song, and that technical, instrumental section was a very nice reassurance, like, "Okay, this is still the DT I know and love." And it's still a very epic and impressive song, but overtime, I've grown to appreciate other songs on the album a lot more. It still rocks though.

Dream Team · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2019, 05:34:39 PM »

I love this song. I love James’ quiet vocals before the first chorus and that beautiful melodic piece after the crazy instrumental section especially.

Dave_Manchester · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2019, 05:39:42 PM »

Fantastic song, top 5 of the Mangini era for me. Great melodies and a jaw-dropping instrumental section that hearkens back to their instrumental-section heyday of Scenes From A Memory, Six Degrees and Train of Thought.

TAC · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2019, 07:38:01 PM »

Quote from: bosk1 on March 15, 2019, 09:25:19 AM

Initially, it was my favorite song off of ADTOE. Now, after the passage of time, I'd be hard pressed to choose between that, Bridges in the Sky, and Beneath the Surface.

You should check out Breaking All Illusions.

Trav86 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 15, 2019, 08:29:32 PM »

One of my favorites.

1neeto · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2019, 02:00:03 PM »

Quote from: Dream Team on March 15, 2019, 05:34:39 PM

I love this song. I love James’ quiet vocals before the first chorus and that beautiful melodic piece after the crazy instrumental section especially.

My favorite part is the instrumental part with the piano and then he comes is “you could look the other way”. Goosebumps city.

Trav86 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2019, 02:54:22 PM »

The Live at Luna Park performance of this song takes it up another notch as well!

Dream Team · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2019, 04:58:27 PM »

Quote from: TAC on March 15, 2019, 07:38:01 PM

Quote from: bosk1 on March 15, 2019, 09:25:19 AM
Initially, it was my favorite song off of ADTOE. Now, after the passage of time, I'd be hard pressed to choose between that, Bridges in the Sky, and Beneath the Surface.

You should check out Breaking All Illusions.

He’s not a big fan, if I remember correctly.

bill1971 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2019, 06:36:54 PM »

Amazing song. Even though note for note it's identical to Metropolis.

I'm am completely kidding.

ADTOE has aged so well, the entire album is so solid. I think I'll give it a spin tonight while walking my dogs.

Volante99 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2019, 09:50:05 PM »

Great song. It’s got everything a DT fan could want, crazy solos, a good chorus, great atmosphere on the slower moments, unpredictable/interesting transitions.

And agree, ADTOE has aged so so well.

SeRoX · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2019, 05:10:45 AM »

Quote from: Volante99 on March 16, 2019, 09:50:05 PM

Great song. It’s got everything a DT fan could want, crazy solos, a good chorus, great atmosphere on the slower moments, unpredictable/interesting transitions.

And agree, ADTOE has aged so so well.

In the sense of liking the music, yes. It aged super well. Production wise? This is their worst. (if you don't count WDADU)

As for the Outcry, this is my ADTOE favourite close second with BAI. I love the James' vocals on this one.

Mat Hausen · « **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2019, 06:57:54 AM »

Best song ever!

TAC · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2019, 06:58:36 AM »

Quote from: Dream Team on March 16, 2019, 04:58:27 PM

Quote from: TAC on March 15, 2019, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on March 15, 2019, 09:25:19 AM
Initially, it was my favorite song off of ADTOE. Now, after the passage of time, I'd be hard pressed to choose between that, Bridges in the Sky, and Beneath the Surface.

You should check out Breaking All Illusions.

He’s not a big fan, if I remember correctly.

Yes, That is the joke.

Volante99 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2019, 10:25:16 AM »

Quote from: SeRoX on March 17, 2019, 05:10:45 AM

Quote from: Volante99 on March 16, 2019, 09:50:05 PM
Great song. It’s got everything a DT fan could want, crazy solos, a good chorus, great atmosphere on the slower moments, unpredictable/interesting transitions.

And agree, ADTOE has aged so so well.

In the sense of liking the music, yes. It aged super well. Production wise? This is their worst. (if you don't count WDADU)

Nah, disagree, production is much better than D12, and it’s not as noisy/brick walled as D/T. Even TA is a bit too “polished” for me, but that’s intentional for the record, and purely a matter of taste.

I distinctly remember how bad I thought it was in 2011, but even the production has aged well haha. It’s punchy and more natural sounding than their latest output.

The Walrus · « **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2019, 10:38:21 AM »

Not a fan of the plodding vocal melody and the bad lyrics, but the instrumental section is amazing, a real standout moment for DT fresh off the MP era.

bosk1 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 18, 2019, 09:03:51 AM »

Quote from: TAC on March 17, 2019, 06:58:36 AM

Quote from: Dream Team on March 16, 2019, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 15, 2019, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on March 15, 2019, 09:25:19 AM
Initially, it was my favorite song off of ADTOE. Now, after the passage of time, I'd be hard pressed to choose between that, Bridges in the Sky, and Beneath the Surface.

You should check out Breaking All Illusions.

He’s not a big fan, if I remember correctly.

Yes, That is the joke.

Jokes are usually funny.

Dream Team · « **Reply #20 on:** March 18, 2019, 11:27:29 AM »

Quote from: Kattelox on March 17, 2019, 10:38:21 AM

Not a fan of the plodding vocal melody and the bad lyrics, but the instrumental section is amazing, a real standout moment for DT fresh off the MP era.

Don’t understand what’s “bad” about the lyrics. Shrug.

spw5150 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 18, 2019, 02:35:02 PM »

Quote from: Dream Team on March 18, 2019, 11:27:29 AM

Quote from: Kattelox on March 17, 2019, 10:38:21 AM
Not a fan of the plodding vocal melody and the bad lyrics, but the instrumental section is amazing, a real standout moment for DT fresh off the MP era.

Don’t understand what’s “bad” about the lyrics. Shrug.

I agree, lyrics are on point

Dublagent66 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 18, 2019, 02:59:24 PM »

Quote from: bosk1 on March 18, 2019, 09:03:51 AM

Quote from: TAC on March 17, 2019, 06:58:36 AM
Quote from: Dream Team on March 16, 2019, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 15, 2019, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on March 15, 2019, 09:25:19 AM
Initially, it was my favorite song off of ADTOE. Now, after the passage of time, I'd be hard pressed to choose between that, Bridges in the Sky, and Beneath the Surface.

You should check out Breaking All Illusions.

He’s not a big fan, if I remember correctly.

Yes, That is the joke.

Jokes are usually funny.

darkshade · « **Reply #23 on:** March 18, 2019, 03:25:49 PM »

One of the better through-composed songs in the DT catalog. Just listened to ADTOE yesterday and this song has really grown on me, being squeezed between the Shaman's song and FFH/BAI. I always enjoyed it but the recent listen really got me excited. ADTOE in general is a well put together album and flows very well, better than most DT albums, and Outcry is in a perfect spot on the album (as opposed to DoT where I feel like I would re-arrange the songs for better flow)

The Walrus · « **Reply #24 on:** March 18, 2019, 07:33:58 PM »

Quote from: Dream Team on March 18, 2019, 11:27:29 AM

Quote from: Kattelox on March 17, 2019, 10:38:21 AM
Not a fan of the plodding vocal melody and the bad lyrics, but the instrumental section is amazing, a real standout moment for DT fresh off the MP era.

Don’t understand what’s “bad” about the lyrics. Shrug.

I think they're far too 'on the nose' and lack the poetry older Dream Theater lyrics have, which is odd because on that very album they do exactly that in other songs. Beneath the Surface and Breaking All Illusions are quite poetic and have elegant lyrics... Outcry is just... "rise up, revolution's begun, there's blood in the streets, hear the outcry" and all the buzzwords are there. I dunno. Corny, in a bad way to me. Not the best lyrical material on that particular album. Just my opinion. Even when they were younger the lyrics were way better than that - Surrounded and Trial of Tears for example.

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Author Topic: Outcry (Read 2006 times)