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War Pigs vs Hallowed vs Victim vs Master?

Black Sabbath - War Pigs
10 (10.9%)
Iron Maiden - Hallowed be thy Name
43 (46.7%)
Judas Priest - Victim of Changes
2 (2.2%)
Metallica - Master of Puppets
37 (40.2%)

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2019, 02:21:16 PM »
Battery or Disposable might have changed this for me , but I went

Hallowed
Victim
Master

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2019, 02:25:56 PM »
...and if you're not a Priest fan, both Sad Wings and Unleashed are pretty obscure albums.

Yup.  Never heard them.  Based on what I've heard of Priest, I don't intend to either.
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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2019, 08:27:26 PM »
I’ve never heard Victims of Changes so I don’t rank it.

1: Master of Puppets
2: Hallowed Be Thy Name
3: War Pigs
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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2019, 08:50:46 PM »
That’s crazy to me that so many metal fans aren’t familiar with iconic Priest albums and songs.

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2019, 02:29:07 AM »
Pigs
Master
Name
Victim (never listened to it until now)

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2019, 05:22:36 AM »
That’s crazy to me that so many metal fans aren’t familiar with iconic Priest albums and songs.

Me too.

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2019, 07:37:12 AM »
Victims, to me, feels like Rob wanted to a high octane metal song before they really existed, and the band just did a very boring pre-metal song behind him.

Instrumentally, it just has no energy. It's too slow, the drums are played like he's falling alseep, the guitarists sound like they need more lessons before they can play the parts. Maybe it sounds better live these days. I don't know.
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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2019, 08:13:55 AM »
Victims, to me, feels like Rob wanted to a high octane metal song before they really existed, and the band just did a very boring pre-metal song behind him.

Instrumentally, it just has no energy. It's too slow, the drums are played like he's falling alseep, the guitarists sound like they need more lessons before they can play the parts. Maybe it sounds better live these days. I don't know.

I assume you are talking about the studio version, yes?

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« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2019, 08:17:59 AM »
Victims, to me, feels like Rob wanted to a high octane metal song before they really existed, and the band just did a very boring pre-metal song behind him.

Instrumentally, it just has no energy. It's too slow, the drums are played like he's falling asleep, the guitarists sound like they need more lessons before they can play the parts. Maybe it sounds better live these days. I don't know.

I assume you are talking about the studio version, yes?

Correct. Is there another version I should be checking out? I'm not a giant Priest fan, so I honestly don't know. I'll go look up a live version.

Nonetheless, in polls like this, I compare studio versions.


Edit: Listened to some live versions. Much much better. Still not as good as Master or Hallowed. But I'd move it to 3rd.
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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2019, 08:21:15 AM »

Correct. Is there another version I should be checking out? I'm not a giant Priest fan, so I honestly don't know. I'll go look up a live version.

Nonetheless, in polls like this, I compare studio versions.

Understandable.  The live version from Unleashed in the East is considered the definitive version of it.  The studio version isn't bad, but if that was the only version out there, I'd probably never listen to it.  Meanwhile, I consider the live version a top 5 Priest tune.  Massive difference.

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2019, 08:48:27 AM »
That entire Unleashed In The East album is definitely a defining piece of rock / metal history. I am not a huge Priest fan but I do enjoy the early pre - Defenders stuff , they were just a hippie band and not metal gods.

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2021, 03:26:48 AM »
Master of Puppets received the most votes? Never understood all the love for that song. And Victim of Changes has only 1 vote?





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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2021, 08:33:05 AM »
I too would've preferred Holy Wars over three of the four songs here. I also don't really know that Priest song. I know I've heard it but couldn't tell you how it goes.

I think this proves that Megadeth are widely beloved on this board but unfortunately Judas Priest aren't  :lol

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« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2021, 09:19:50 AM »
I too would've preferred Holy Wars over three of the four songs here. I also don't really know that Priest song. I know I've heard it but couldn't tell you how it goes.

I think this proves that Megadeth are widely beloved on this board but unfortunately Judas Priest aren't  :lol

I think Victim of Changes is among Judas Priest's five fan favorites.
It's probably their most signature song of the 70's catalogue. But I suppose Painkiller is their most popular and beloved song in general, by casual Judas Priest fans and metalheads.



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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2021, 09:47:15 AM »
Hallowed
Victim
War Pigs
Master

I love them all though

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2021, 10:08:14 AM »

I think Victim of Changes is among Judas Priest's five fan favorites.

Why would you think that?

Are you a member of a Judas Priest message board that has conducted polls?
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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2021, 10:30:06 AM »
Has to be Master of Puppets for me.

Master is arguably THE best metal album of all time ?

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2021, 10:47:50 AM »
Obviously, I went with Hallowed Be Thy Name. I'm a hige Maiden fan, and Hallowed is one of my Top 5 Favorite songs all time.


After that..

Master Of Puppets
War Pigs
Victim Of Changes
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2021, 10:55:03 AM »
Has to be Master of Puppets for me.

Master is arguably THE best metal album of all time ?

Maybe the most popular and celebrated, but not the best.


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« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2021, 12:13:49 PM »
And Victim of Changes has only 1 vote?
Not any more. Definitely hard to choose, but I went with Victim because, IMO, it's such an epic song.

If I were to rank them, it would be:
Victim
Hallowed
Master
War Pigs
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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2021, 12:28:20 PM »
I think I have to preface this by saying I just don't see what others see in Master Of Puppets.  Very good song, not in the same league (for me) as Hallowed or War Pigs.

For me:

1. Hallowed Be Thy Name
2. War Pigs






3. Victim Of Changes





4. Master Of Puppets

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« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2021, 01:24:53 PM »
I think I have to preface this by saying I just don't see what others see in Master Of Puppets.   

Replace "Master of Puppets" with "Hallowed Be Thy Name" and I am in agreement.

I just listened to it as a refresher and still don't get how that song is so revered.  The riffage is nice and Dickinson's vocals are fine enough, but it's been over for five minutes and I don't remember much else about it, which brings me to the issue I have with most Iron Maiden songs: lack of good, memorable melodies.  Note that I am not saying there aren't melodies in their songs; I am just saying that most of them aren't memorable.  And there are tons of metal songs with strong melodies that get stuck in your head and suck you in and make you want to listen again.  It's just too bad that Iron Maiden has so few songs like that for me.

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« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2021, 01:47:33 PM »
Lol the main reason why Iron Maiden is one of my favorite bands is because I think they have possibly the most memorable melodies in all of metal. :lol

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« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2021, 01:51:11 PM »
Yeah, I was going to say.
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« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2021, 03:25:08 PM »
Yeah, Maiden frequently churned out some of metal's most memorable hooks and melodies in their heyday. Different strokes I guess.

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2021, 03:28:52 PM »
I've not heard much Maiden but the stuff i've heard is really not my cup of tea. Too samey and nothing grabbed me.


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« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2021, 03:57:29 PM »
I love that loping melody (it's played on guitar) in between the verses.   I also love that vocal "the sands of time, for me... are running low..............."

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« Reply #62 on: January 01, 2021, 04:07:50 PM »
Personally there are several Priest songs that I would pick to represent them in this poll. In the end it probably wouldn't matter. War Pigs is timeless genius.  As impactful today as the first time I heard it.

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« Reply #63 on: January 01, 2021, 04:18:21 PM »
Puppets and Hallowed are 2 of my favourite 'metal' songs of all time. The other 2 in the poll I'd never heard, but I've just listened to them both (and they're both very good, thank you WildRanger for bringing my attention to them).

Ranking:

1. Master of Puppets (I go back and forth between this and Blackened as the greatest metal song I've ever heard)
2. Hallowed
3. Victim of Changes
4. War Pigs

But like I said, all good tunes. I've never heard a Black Sabbath album and from Priest I own only British Steel (I'm just not much of a metal fan). Is Victim of Changes considered to be Priest's magnum opus? Because I enjoyed it less than everything on British Steel.

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« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2021, 04:36:26 PM »
1. Master of Puppets



2. War Pigs





























3 & 4. The other two
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« Reply #65 on: January 01, 2021, 06:39:49 PM »
I will echo the sentiment that Holy Wars is better than any song on this list.

Can’t decide if I think it’s the greatest metal song of all time, but I would feel comfortable saying that it’s the greatest thrash metal song of all time. And I wouldn’t even call myself a big Megadeth fan. In fact, I think RIP as an album is grossly overrated.

But for this poll...Puppets
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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2021, 03:24:12 AM »
I voted for Hallowed, but I consider it a tie with Victim of Changes

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2021, 09:05:13 AM »
Is Victim of Changes considered to be Priest's magnum opus?

The problem is sort of in the title.   None of those are really their "signature" tunes.  They are more "epics" or "magna opera" (yes, that's one of the plural of "magnum opus"). I would say "Victim" IS Priest's magnum opus, but not their signature tune.

To me, the "signature tune" is the song they play at a Super Bowl halftime, or for their one appearance at their Hall Of Fame induction.

The "signature" tunes for me would be:
- Maiden:  The Number Of The Beast
- Black Sabbath (Ozzy):  Iron Man (or, maybe, Paranoid)
- Metallica: Enter Sandman (or, maybe, Master Of Puppets)
- Priest: Breakin' The Law (or, Living After Midnight)

(I put those in order of my preference, by the way).

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Re: POLL: 4 signature classic metal tunes
« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2021, 09:13:09 AM »
Master of Puppets is the song Metallica played the most live though, far more than Enter Sandman; (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/metallica-3bd680c8.html)

As for the rest of your suggestions, I think Paranoid is more well-known than Iron Man, but this might be yet another case of US vs Europe popularity!
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« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2021, 09:16:03 AM »
Well, Master of Puppets pre-dates Enter Sandman by five years, so of course it has more live plays considering both get played at every Metallica show.  I think the average person on the street is more likely to recognize Enter Sandman than Master of Puppets, though, so I agree with Stadler that it would be their signature tune (based on his specific definition).

Think of it this way: in 100 years, if Metallica is remembered by the masses (not just metal fans) for one song, Enter Sandman would likely be that song.  It is their Tom Sawyer, Piano Man, Stairway to Heaven, Bohemian Rhapsody or Hotel California.