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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 12 Standings
« Reply #105 on: June 10, 2019, 07:34:58 AM »
I think that lines up pretty well with my expectations. I'm a little surprised that Out of Reach is doing so poorly and I'd personally put AWE ahead of S2N, but those two may yet sort themselves out going forward.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 12 Standings
« Reply #106 on: June 10, 2019, 09:24:36 AM »
The Bigger Picture slipped away from the 64 finals slots? can't be!

So, Scarred kicked away Trial of Tears from the top, and Finally Free couldn't manage to pull Blind Faith down. Let's see what will happen next!

Nothing too surprising about this.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 12 Standings
« Reply #107 on: June 10, 2019, 09:58:12 AM »
Did you expect these results? Viper King, the oddball bonus track, isn't last, S2N is actually leading with a perfect score, and Fall Into the Light is ahead of the praised Barstool Warrior and the epic closing track.

I'm surprised there are 5 songs with 3 or fewer losses, but it's all about the match ups.  I'd be interested to see which songs S2N has defeated.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 13 Standings
« Reply #108 on: June 10, 2019, 10:46:08 AM »
S2N's road to 13-0

Week 1 - Defeated On the Backs of Angels 22-13
Week 2 - Defeated Dystopian Overture 24-7
Week 3 - Defeated The Ministry of Lost Souls 23-14
Week 4 - Defeated Three Days 26-11
Week 5 - Defeated 2285 Entr'acte 31-2
Week 6 - Defeated The Killing Hand 20-14
Week 7 - Defeated Begin Again 31-2
Week 8 - Defeated The X Aspect 25-7
Week 9 - Defeated Light Fuse and Get Away 31-4
Week 10 - Defeated Outcry 21-13
Week 11 - Defeated Eve 24-9
Week 12 - Defeated Heaven's Cove 26-5
Week 13 - Defeated Untethered Angel 23-6

So yeah, pretty easy schedule. Hasn't faced a song from many of DT's highly regarded albums.

With all of that said, I expect S2N to be 13-1 after this week.

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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 13 Standings
« Reply #109 on: June 10, 2019, 01:01:34 PM »
S2N's road to 13-0

Week 1 - Defeated On the Backs of Angels 22-13
Week 2 - Defeated Dystopian Overture 24-7
Week 3 - Defeated The Ministry of Lost Souls 23-14
Week 4 - Defeated Three Days 26-11
Week 5 - Defeated 2285 Entr'acte 31-2
Week 6 - Defeated The Killing Hand 20-14
Week 7 - Defeated Begin Again 31-2
Week 8 - Defeated The X Aspect 25-7
Week 9 - Defeated Light Fuse and Get Away 31-4
Week 10 - Defeated Outcry 21-13
Week 11 - Defeated Eve 24-9
Week 12 - Defeated Heaven's Cove 26-5
Week 13 - Defeated Untethered Angel 23-6

So yeah, pretty easy schedule. Hasn't faced a song from many of DT's highly regarded albums.

With all of that said, I expect S2N to be 13-1 after this week.

Yeah...6 songs from TA, one of the worst songs from one of DT's worst albums, a b-side non-album track.  Those were gimmes.  The wins over OTBOA, TKH, LFAGA, Outcry and Untethered Angel were legit.

Given that not every song will get a chance against every other song and given that there is a large number of cupcakes (the TA songs and the non-album tracks -- only one of which I think is currently in the top 64), strength of schedule really ought to be a thing.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 13 Standings
« Reply #110 on: June 10, 2019, 03:49:02 PM »
Yeah, S2N hasn't been up against a lot of heavy hitters yet.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 13 Standings
« Reply #111 on: June 16, 2019, 06:44:27 AM »
Week 14-A - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53972.0
1.   Dystopian Overture defeats 2285 Entr’acte 24-4 
2.   Erotomania defeats Constant Motion 24-6
3.   Build Me Up, Break Me Down defeats Far From Heaven 17-13
4.   Blind Faith defeats Heaven’s Cove 22-8
5.   Honor Thy Father defeats Begin Again 20-10
6.   In the Name of God defeats As I Am 25-5
7.   Lines in the Sand defeats A Savior in the Square 26-4 
8.   Metropolis defeats A Life Left Behind 26-4 
9.   One Last Time defeats Never Enough 24-6 
10.   Overture 1928 defeats Whispers On the Wind 30-0 
11.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Ravenskill 24-6 
12.   Through Her Eyes defeats Room 137 18-12
13.   Take Away My Pain defeats The Road to Revolution 21-9 
14.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats The Best of Times 21-9 
15.   The Glass Prison defeats The Dark Eternal Night 27-3 
16.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats These Walls 28-2 
17.   Strange Déjà vu defeats The Spirit Carries On 17-13 
18.   Voices defeats Peruvian Skies 27-3 
19.   A Change of Seasons defeats Endless Sacrifice 25-5 


Week 14-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53975.0
1.   6:00 defeats Don’t Look Past Me 23-2 
2.   Eve defeats Chosen 14-12 
3.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Brother, Can You Hear Me? 26-0 
4.   Barstool Warrior defeats Hymn of a Thousand Voices 25-1 
5.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Another Won 22-3
6.   Lie defeats Afterlife 18-8 
7.   Lord Nafaryus defeats A Rite of Passage 21-5 
8.   Misunderstood defeats A Fortune in Lies 19-7 
9.   On the Backs of Angels defeats New Millennium 17-9
10.   Outcry defeats Wither 19-7 
11.   Wait For Sleep defeats Paralyzed 16-10 
12.   Untethered Angel defeats Raise the Knife 14-11 
13.   Through My Words defeats Repentance 15-11
14.   Scarred defeats This Dying Soul 23-3 
15.   The Walking Shadow defeats Status Seeker 13-12 
16.   The Mirror defeats The Answer Lies Within 24-2 
17.   Surrounded defeats The Root of All Evil 16-10 
18.   The Dance of Eternity defeats The Great Debate 14-12 
19.   Beyond This Life defeats Hell’s Kitchen 16-10 

Week 14-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53978.0
1.   False Awakening Suite defeats Cover My Eyes 19-10
2.   A Better Life defeats Enigma Machine 21-7 
3.   Forsaken defeats Burning My Soul 17-12 
4.   Bridges in the Sky defeats Hollow Years 26-3
5.   Beneath The Surface defeats I Walk Beside You 16-13 
6.   Just Let Me Breathe defeats Astonishing 15-14
7.   Anna Lee defeats Light Fuse and Get Away 20-7 
8.   Act of Faythe defeats Losing Faythe 18-7 
9.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Our New World 15-14
10.   Panic Attack defeats You Not Me 26-3 
11.   Prophets of War defeats Where Are You Now? 20-8
12.   Viper King defeats Raw Dog 25-4 
13.   Sacrificed Sons defeats To Live Forever 19-10 
14.   This is the Life defeats Speak to Me 20-9 
15.   Surrender to Reason defeats The Way It Used to Be 25-4 
16.   The Shattered Fortress defeats The Answer 21-7
17.   The Bigger Picture defeats The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 23-5
18.   The Enemy Inside & The Looking Glass tied 14-14 
19.   Disappear defeats Fall Into the Light 17-12 

Week 14-D - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53983.0
1.   Vacant defeats Regression 25-4 
2.   Learning to Live defeats Along For the Ride 29-0 
3.   Illumination Theory defeats Behind the Veil 22-7
4.   At Wit’s End defeats Innocence Faded 22-6   
5.   Another Day defeats Lifting Shadows Off a Dream 15-14 
6.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats A Tempting Offer 24-5 
7.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Moment of Betrayal 18-11 
8.   Octavarium defeats Out of Reach 26-3 
9.   Pale Blue Dot defeats Ytse Jam 18-11 
10.   Pull Me Under defeats When Your Time Has Come 24-5 
11.   A New Beginning defeats My Last Farewell 24-1 
12.   Stream of Consciousness defeats The X Aspect 23-5 
13.   Take the Time defeats The Silent Man 27-2 
14.   The Count of Tuscany defeats The Path That Divides 28-1 
15.   The Killing Hand defeats The Gift of Music 15-14 
16.   Finally Free defeats Caught In a Web 27-2 
17.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Three Days 19-10
18.   Trial of Tears defeats S2N 17-12 

Week 14 Match of the Week - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53984.0
Breaking All Illusions defeats Home 16-13 

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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 13 Standings
« Reply #112 on: June 16, 2019, 06:44:59 AM »

Standings after Week 14

1.000 Winning % – Songs 1-7
Blind Faith (14-0)
Breaking All Illusions (14-0)
A Change of Seasons (14-0)
Learning to Live (14-0)
Metropolis (14-0)
Pull Me Under (14-0)
Scarred (14-0)

.964 Winning % Song 8
The Mirror (13-0-1)

.929 Winning %. Songs 9-20
At Wit’s End (13-1)
Beyond This Life (13-1)
The Count of Tuscany (13-1)
Erotomania (13-1)
Home (13-1)
In the Presence of Enemies (13-1)
Octavarium (13-1)
S2N (13-1)
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (13-1)
Take the Time (13-1)
Trial of Tears (13-1)
Voices (13-1)

.893 Winning %. Songs 21-23
Lie (12-1-1)
Panic Attack (12-1-1)
Surrounded (12-1-1)

.857 Winning %. Songs 24-29
Another Day (12-2)
Bridges in the Sky (12-2)
Finally Free (12-2)
Misunderstood (12-2)
In the Name of God (12-2)
The Spirit Carries On (12-2)

.786 Winning %. Songs 30-43
6:00 (11-3)
Barstool Warrior (11-3)
Disappear (11-3)
Endless Sacrifice (11-3)
Fall Into the Light (11-3)
The Dance of Eternity (11-3)
Fatal Tragedy (11-3) 
The Glass Prison (11-3)
Illumination Theory (11-3)
Lines in the Sand (11-3)
Pale Blue Dot (11-3)
Space-Dye Vest (11-3)
Strange Déjà vu (11-3)
Under a Glass Moon (11-3)

.750 Winning %. Songs 44-45
Hell’s Kitchen (10-3-1)
Stream of Consciousness (10-3-1)

.714 Winning %. Songs 46-52
Innocence Faded (10-4)
A New Beginning (10-4)
Overture 1928 (10-4)
Peruvian Skies (10-4)
The Shattered Fortress (10-4)
Surrender to Reason (10-4)
Wait For Sleep (10-4)

.679 Winning %. Songs 53 & 54
Caught in a Web (9-4-1)
A Life Left Behind (9-4-1)

.643 Winning %. Songs 55-60
As I Am (9-5)
The Great Debate (9-5)
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream (9-5)
The Ministry of Lost Souls (9-5)
New Millennium (9-5)
These Walls (9-5)

.607 Winning %. Songs 61 & 62
The Bigger Picture (8-5-1)
This Dying Soul (8-5-1)

.571 Winning %. Songs 63-68
Beneath the Surface (8-6)
Lost Not Forgotten (8-6)
Paralyzed (8-6)
The Root of All Evil (8-6)
Three Days (8-6)
Untethered Angel (8-6)

.536 Winning %. Song 69
On the Backs of Angels (7-6-1)

.500 Winning %. Songs 71-72 Songs 70-76
A Better Life (7-7)
Honor Thy Father (7-7)
Outcry (7-7)
The Path That Divides (7-7)
Take Away My Pain (7-7)
Through Her Eyes (7-7)
Wither (7-7)

.464 Winning %. Songs 77-79
Constant Motion (6-7-1)
Dystopian Overture (6-7-1)
This is the Life (6-7-1)


.429 Winning %. Songs 80-88
Anna Lee (6-8)
Eve (6-8) 
The Killing Hand (6-8)
Our New World (6-8)
Out of Reach (6-8)
Ravenskill (6-8)
Sacrificed Sons (6-8)
Vacant (6-8)
Viper King (6-8)

.393 Winning %. Songs 89-91
Behind the Veil (5-8-1)
The Enemy Inside (5-8-1)
The Looking Glass (5-8-1)

.357 Winning %. Songs 92-102
Afterlife (5-9)
Along For the Ride (5-9)
Astonishing (5-9)
Build Me Up, Break Me Down (5-9)
Forsaken (5-9)
Lord Nafaryus (5-9)
A Nightmare to Remember (5-9)
One Last Time (5-9)
To Live Forever (5-9)
The Walking Shadow (5-9)
Ytse Jam (5-9)

.321 Winning %. Song 103
The Silent Man (4-9-1)

.286 Winning %. Songs 104-111
Chosen (4-10)
The Gift of Music (4-10)
Heaven’s Cove (4-10)
Never Enough (4-10)
Raise the Knife (4-10)
The Road to Revolution (4-10)
A Savior in the Square (4-10)
When Your Time Has Come (4-10)

.250 Winning %. Song 112
Far From Heaven (3-10-1)

.214 Winning %. Songs 113-124
Another Won (3-11)
The Answer Lies Within (3-11)
The Dark Eternal Night (3-11)
Enigma Machine (3-11)
A Fortune in Lies (3-11)
Hollow Years (3-11)
I Walk Beside You (3-11)
Just Let Me Breathe (3-11)
Only A Matter of Time (3-11)
Repentance (3-11)
Speak to Me (3-11)
Through My Words (3-11)

.179 Winning %. Song 125
The X Aspect (2-11-1)

.143 Winning %. Songs 126-132
The Best of Times (2-12)
Don’t Look Past Me (2-12)
False Awakening Suite (2-12)
Hymn of a Thousand Voices (2-12)
Moment of Betrayal (2-12)
Prophets of War (2-12)
Room 137 (2-12)

.071 Winning %. Songs 133-141
2285 Entr’acte (1-13)
Act of Faythe (1-13)
Begin Again (1-13)
Burning My Soul (1-13)
My Last Farewell (1-13)
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun (1-13)
A Rite of Passage (1-13)
Status Seeker (1-13)
A Tempting Offer (1-13)

.000 Winning % Songs 142-152
The Answer (0-14)
Brother, Can You Hear Me? (0-14)
Cover My Eyes (0-14)
Light Fuse and Get Away (0-14)
Losing Faythe (0-14)
Raw Dog (0-14)
Regression (0-14)
The Way It Used to Be (0-14)
Where Are You Now? (0-14)
Whispers On the Wind (0-14)
You Not Me (0-14)

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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 14 Standings
« Reply #113 on: June 16, 2019, 11:17:51 AM »
It's starting to get lonely at the top. The Mirror still holds on  :metal

In the probably least interesting derby of the entire tournament,. Act of Faythe defeats Losing Faythe and will keep at least one victory!
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 14 Standings
« Reply #114 on: June 16, 2019, 09:06:51 PM »
Amazingly, Blind Faith is the only MP/JR era song still undefeated.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 14 Standings
« Reply #115 on: June 18, 2019, 12:25:14 PM »
There's so many matchups here that you often miss something. I just noticed that Through My Words, all 62 seconds of it, beat the 10:44 of Repentance. And my mind is blown. I know Repentance is not one of the most-liked DT songs, but then TMW is seen as a throwaway prelude to Fatal Tragedy, so it's still a big shock.

Honestly, this thing needs a website of its own, with stats and whatnot. I sometimes wish I could click on a song and see its matchups.

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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 14 Standings
« Reply #116 on: June 18, 2019, 12:43:17 PM »
There's so many matchups here that you often miss something. I just noticed that Through My Words, all 62 seconds of it, beat the 10:44 of Repentance. And my mind is blown. I know Repentance is not one of the most-liked DT songs, but then TMW is seen as a throwaway prelude to Fatal Tragedy, so it's still a big shock.

Honestly, this thing needs a website of its own, with stats and whatnot. I sometimes wish I could click on a song and see its matchups.

You can just do a page search within this thread.  It's only four pages at this point.

I consider Repentance the single worst song DT has recorded, so it's really easy for me when it comes up to vote for the other song.  That Repentance has the same number of wins (3 - False Awakening Suite, A Better Life and Enigma Machine) as Only a Matter of Time is one of the greatest mysteries of the modern world.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 14 Standings
« Reply #117 on: June 18, 2019, 01:08:31 PM »
There's so many matchups here that you often miss something. I just noticed that Through My Words, all 62 seconds of it, beat the 10:44 of Repentance. And my mind is blown. I know Repentance is not one of the most-liked DT songs, but then TMW is seen as a throwaway prelude to Fatal Tragedy, so it's still a big shock.

Honestly, this thing needs a website of its own, with stats and whatnot. I sometimes wish I could click on a song and see its matchups.

As I said before, some votes are just to "punish" a song. Someone doesn't like a song, like AT ALL, and so "literally anything else" becomes a better option.

If I remember correctly someone voted for The Answer against A Change of Seasons. Is it possible that nothing in the 23 minutes of ACoS is worth more than the barely two minutes of The Answer? surely, but as I said these kind of votes are done on principle. "I don't like this song at all - literally any other song will do".
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 14 Standings
« Reply #118 on: June 23, 2019, 04:16:24 PM »
Week 15-A - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53994.0
1.   Space-Dye Vest defeats A Better Life 19-6 
2.   Repentance & Status Seeker tied 12-12 
3.   Surrounded defeats Raise the Knife 19-6 
4.   Paralyzed defeats The Answer Lies Within 22-3 
5.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats A Fortune in Lies 17-7 
6.   The Road to Revolution defeats A Rite of Passage 15-10 
7.   The Spirit Carries On defeats Afterlife 22-3 
8.   These Walls defeat Another Won 18-7
9.   Barstool Warrior defeats Through Her Eyes 18-7   
10.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Beyond This Life 14-11
11.   Voices defeats Brother, Can You Hear Me? 25-0 
12.   Chosen defeats Whispers On the Wind 18-5 
13.   Never Enough defeats Don’t Look Past Me 16-9
14.   Lines in the Sand defeats Far From Heaven 23-2 
15.   Learning to Live defeats Heaven’s Cove 24-1
16.   Outcry defeats The Dance of Eternity 14-11
17.   In the Name of God defeats Honor Thy Father 22-3 
18.   The Glass Prison defeats On the Backs of Angels 19-6 
19.   Metropolis defeats Erotomania 22-3 

Week 15-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53995.msg2559864#new
1.   As I Am defeats This Dying Soul 14-12
2.   A Change of Seasons defeats Speak To Me 25-1 
3.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Room 137 24-2 
4.   Ravenskill defeats Take Away My Pain 15-11 
5.   Peruvian Skies defeats The Best of Times 21-5 
6.   Overture 1928 defeats The Dark Eternal Night 19-6 
7.   The Great Debate defeats One Last Time 16-10 
8.   The Mirror defeats A Life Left Behind 19-6 
9.   The Root of All Evil defeats A Savior in the Square 23-3 
10.   The Walking Shadow defeats Along For the Ride 15-11 
11.   Begin Again defeats Through My Words 16-10
12.   Blind Faith defeats Untethered Angel 20-5 
13.   When Your Time Has Come defeats Burning My Soul 14-12
14.   Wither defeats Constant Motion 16-10 
15.   New Millennium defeats Dystopian Overture 17-8 
16.   Misunderstood defeats Eve 20-6 
17.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Lord Nafaryus 24-2 
18.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Hymn of a Thousand Voices 20-5 
19.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats Lie 18-8 

Week 15-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=53999.0
1.   Take The Time defeats Raw Dog 28-0
2.   The Bigger Picture defeats Prophets of War 22-6 
3.   Pale Blue Dot defeats The Enemy Inside 25-3 
4.   The Killing Hand defeats Our New World 17-10
5.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats The Ones Who Help to Set The Sun 22-6 
6.   The Shattered Fortress defeats A Tempting Offer 21-7
7.   Anna Lee defeats The Way It Used to Be 22-5 
8.   This is the Life defeats Astonishing 26-2 
9.   Behind the Veil defeats To Live Forever 20-8 
10.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Vacant 27-1 
11.   Wait For Sleep defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 22-6
12.   You Not Me defeats Cover My Eyes 19-7
13.   Fall Into the Light defeats Moment of Betrayal 22-6 
14.   Finally Free defeats Losing Faythe 27-1 
15.   Lifting Shadows Off a Dream defeats Hollow Years 21-7 
16.   Home defeats Light Fuse and Get Away 27-0 
17.   Innocence Faded defeats I Walk Beside You 20-8 
18.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats 6:00 24-4
19.   S2N defeats Stream of Consciousness 15-14 

Week 15-D - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54002.0
1.   Scarred defeats 2285 Entr’acte 28-1   
2.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Surrender to Reason 17-11 
3.   The Answer defeats Regression 16-12 
4.   Panic Attack defeats The Gift of Music 18-10 
5.   Out of Reach defeats The Looking Glass 16-13 
6.   A New Beginning defeats The Path That Divides 20-6 
7.   The Silent Man defeats Act of Faythe 21-8 
8.   Another Day defeats The X Aspect 20-8 
9.   At Wit’s End defeats Three Days 27-2 
10.   Trial of Tears defeats Beneath the Surface 22-7 
11.   Bridges in the Sky defeats Viper King 26-3 
12.   Caught in a Web defeats Where Are You Now? 27-2 
13.   Disappear defeats Ytse Jam 20-9 
14.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Enigma Machine 16-12
15.   My Last Farewell & False Awakening Suite tied 14-14
16.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Forsaken 20-9 
17.   Illumination Theory defeats Just Let Me Breathe 26-3 
18.   Octavarium defeats Endless Sacrifice 27-2 

Week 15 Match of the Week
Pull Me Under defeats The Count of Tuscany 14-10 

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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 14 Standings
« Reply #119 on: June 23, 2019, 04:16:57 PM »

Standings after Week 15

1.000 Winning % – Songs 1-7
Blind Faith (15-0)
Breaking All Illusions (15-0)
A Change of Seasons (15-0)
Learning to Live (15-0)
Metropolis (15-0)
Pull Me Under (15-0)
Scarred (15-0)

.967 Winning % Song 8
The Mirror (14-0-1)

.933 Winning %. Songs 9-17
At Wit’s End (14-1)
Home (14-1)
In the Presence of Enemies (14-1)
Octavarium (14-1)
S2N (14-1)
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (14-1)
Take the Time (14-1)
Trial of Tears (14-1)
Voices (14-1)

.900 Winning %. Songs 18 &19
Panic Attack (13-1-1)
Surrounded (13-1-1)

.867 Winning %. Songs 20-28
Another Day (13-2)
Beyond This Life (13-2)
Bridges in the Sky (13-2)
The Count of Tuscany (13-2)
Erotomania (13-2)
Finally Free (13-2)
In the Name of God (13-2)
Misunderstood (13-2)
The Spirit Carries On (13-2)

.833 Winning %. Song 29
Lie (12-2-1)

.800 Winning %. Songs 30-40
Barstool Warrior (12-3)
Disappear (12-3)
Fall Into the Light (12-3)
Fatal Tragedy (12-3) 
The Glass Prison (12-3)
Illumination Theory (12-3)
Lines in the Sand (12-3)
Pale Blue Dot (12-3)
Space-Dye Vest (12-3)
Strange Déjà vu (12-3)
Under a Glass Moon (12-3)

.767 Winning %. Song 41
Hell’s Kitchen (11-3-1)

.733 Winning %. Songs 42-50
6:00 (11-4)
Endless Sacrifice (11-4)
The Dance of Eternity (11-4)
Innocence Faded (11-4)
A New Beginning (11-4)
Overture 1928 (11-4)
Peruvian Skies (11-4)
The Shattered Fortress (11-4)
Wait For Sleep (11-4)

.700 Winning %. Songs 51 & 52
Caught in a Web (10-4-1)
Stream of Consciousness (10-4-1)

.667 Winning %. Songs 53-59
As I Am (10-5)
The Great Debate (10-5)
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream (10-5)
The Ministry of Lost Souls (10-5)
New Millennium (10-5)
Surrender to Reason (10-5)
These Walls (10-5)

.633 Winning %. Songs 60 & 61
The Bigger Picture (9-5-1)
A Life Left Behind (9-5-1)


.600 Winning %. Songs 62-64
Lost Not Forgotten (9-6)
Paralyzed (9-6)
The Root of All Evil (9-6)

.567 Winning %. Song 65
This Dying Soul (8-6-1)

.533 Winning %. Songs 66-70
Beneath the Surface (8-7)
Outcry (8-7)
Three Days (8-7)
Untethered Angel (8-7)
Wither (8-7)

.500 Winning %. Songs 71-72 Songs 71 & 72
On the Backs of Angels (7-7-1)
This is the Life (7-7-1)

.467 Winning %. Songs 73-82
Anna Lee (7-8)
A Better Life (7-8)
Honor Thy Father (7-8)
The Killing Hand (7-8)
Out of Reach (7-8)
The Path That Divides (7-8)
Ravenskill (7-8)
Sacrificed Sons (7-8)
Take Away My Pain (7-8)
Through Her Eyes (7-8)

.433 Winning %. Songs 83-85
Behind the Veil (6-8-1)
Constant Motion (6-8-1)
Dystopian Overture (6-8-1)

.400 Winning %. Songs 86-91
Eve (6-9) 
A Nightmare to Remember (6-9)
Our New World (6-9)
Vacant (6-9)
Viper King (6-9)
The Walking Shadow (6-9)

.367 Winning %. Song 92-94
The Enemy Inside (5-9-1)
The Looking Glass (5-9-1)
The Silent Man (5-9-1)

.333 Winning %. Songs 95-107
Afterlife (5-10)
Along For the Ride (5-10)
Astonishing (5-10)
Build Me Up, Break Me Down (5-10)
Chosen (5-10)
Forsaken (5-10)
Lord Nafaryus (5-10)
Never Enough (5-10)
One Last Time (5-10)
The Road to Revolution (5-10)
To Live Forever (5-10)
When Your Time Has Come (5-10)
Ytse Jam (5-10)

.267 Winning %. Songs 108-112
The Gift of Music (4-11)
Heaven’s Cove (4-11)
Only A Matter of Time (4-11)
Raise the Knife (4-11)
A Savior in the Square (4-11)

.233 Winning %. Song 113 & 114
Far From Heaven (3-11-1)
Repentance (3-11-1)

.200 Winning %. Songs 115-124
Another Won (3-12)
The Answer Lies Within (3-12)
The Dark Eternal Night (3-12)
Enigma Machine (3-12)
A Fortune in Lies (3-12)
Hollow Years (3-12)
I Walk Beside You (3-12)
Just Let Me Breathe (3-12)
Speak to Me (3-12)
Through My Words (3-12)

.167 Winning %. Song 125 & 126
False Awakening Suite (2-12-1)
The X Aspect (2-12-1)

.133 Winning %. Songs 127-133
Begin Again (2-13)
The Best of Times (2-13)
Don’t Look Past Me (2-13)
Hymn of a Thousand Voices (2-13)
Moment of Betrayal (2-13)
Prophets of War (2-13)
Room 137 (2-13)

.100 Winning %. Songs 134 & 135
My Last Farewell (1-13-1)
Status Seeker (1-13-1)

.067 Winning %. Songs 136-143
2285 Entr’acte (1-14)
Act of Faythe (1-14)
The Answer (1-14)
Burning My Soul (1-14)
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun (1-14)
A Rite of Passage (1-14)
A Tempting Offer (1-14)
You Not Me (1-14)

.000 Winning % Songs 144-152
Brother, Can You Hear Me? (0-15)
Cover My Eyes (0-15)
Light Fuse and Get Away (0-15)
Losing Faythe (0-15)
Raw Dog (0-15)
Regression (0-15)
The Way It Used to Be (0-15)
Where Are You Now? (0-15)
Whispers On the Wind (0-15)



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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 15 Standings
« Reply #120 on: June 24, 2019, 01:28:53 AM »
Yay, You Not me and The Answer get finally a win!

It would be curious to see how the benchkmark for going into the top 64 fluctuates from week to week, and which songs are in or out with each passing week. Right now This Dying Soul is the first of the eliminated songs, and the ones which come immediately after are all songs I'd like to go on.

Also, concentrating on something that nobody cares for, but it's fun to find overlooked statistics: the race between the FII leftovers is as follows:

Raise the Knife has 4 wins
Speak to me has 3 wins
Cover my Eyes, The Way it Used to Be and Where Are You Now are stuck at the very bottom with 0 wins.

I agree with this, RtK and StM are the best of the leftovers, let's see if the other three will eventually get a win sometime, but I assume that those two songs in the "lead" won't be caught anymore  by the other three.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 15 Standings
« Reply #121 on: June 24, 2019, 10:41:47 AM »
Also, concentrating on something that nobody cares for, but it's fun to find overlooked statistics: the race between the FII leftovers is as follows:

Raise the Knife has 4 wins
Speak to me has 3 wins
Cover my Eyes, The Way it Used to Be and Where Are You Now are stuck at the very bottom with 0 wins.

I agree with this, RtK and StM are the best of the leftovers, let's see if the other three will eventually get a win sometime, but I assume that those two songs in the "lead" won't be caught anymore  by the other three.

Keep in mind that the songs against which RTK and STM got wins are anything but powerhouses.

RTK defeated Through My Words, Prophets of War, Enigma Machine and Where Are You Now? (one other FII reject a transitional piece from SFAM and two very poorly regarded songs)

STM could only manage wins against another FII reject (The Way It Used to Be) and two songs from TA (Losing Faythe and Hymn of 1000 Voices).

If anyone cares, I would vote to exclude some of these bottom feeders from future versions of this leauge so that every song can match up against every other song.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 15 Standings
« Reply #122 on: June 30, 2019, 09:27:09 AM »
Week 16-A - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54019.0
1.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Afterlife 17-12 
2.   Blind Faith defeats Prophets of War 24-5 
3.   Brother, Can You Hear Me? defeats Regression 20-9 
4.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Chosen 21-8 
5.   Speak to Me defeats Don’t Look Past Me 17-8 
6.   Far From Heaven defeats The Answer 22-7 
7.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Heaven’s Cove 26-3
8.   The Gift of Music defeats Honor Thy Father 18-11 
9.   A Better Life defeats A Savior in the Square 17-10
10.   As I Am defeats Our New World 23-6
11.   In the Name of God defeats The Looking Glass 25-4 
12.   Wither defeats To Live Forever 16-13
13.   Learning to Live defeats The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 29-0 
14.   The Root of All Evil defeats Losing Faythe 28-1 
15.   The Spirit Carries On defeats My Last Farewell 26-3 
16.   Three Days defeats Never Enough 19-9
17.   Trial of Tears defeats Whispers on the Wind 28-0 
18.   Voices defeats Viper King 27-2 
19.   Barstool Warrior defeats Panic Attack 17-12

Week 16-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54023.0
1.   6:00 defeats A Tempting Offer 25-4 
2.   Another Day defeats A Fortune in Lies 19-10 
3.   One Last Time defeats Astonishing 25-4 
4.   Outcry defeats Beneath the Surface 16-13 
5.   Build Me Up, Break Me Down defeats Raw Dog 26-3 
6.   Disappear defeats Repentance 26-3 
7.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Eve 22-7
8.   Surrounded defeats Forsaken 27-2 
9.   Home defeats The Answer Lies Within 29-0 
10.   The Enemy Inside defeats Hymn of a Thousand Voices 21-7 
11.   The Glass Prison defeats Just Let Me Breathe 26-3
12.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Light Fuse and Get Away 18-10 
13.   Lines in the Sand defeats The Silent Man 24-5 
14.   Metropolis defeats The X Aspect 26-2
15.   These Walls defeat Only a Matter of Time 19-10 
16.   Ytse Jam defeats Through Her Eyes 16-13 
17.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Where Are You Now? 29-0
18.   The Great Debate defeats Innocence Faded 18-11
19.   Beyond This Life defeats Pull Me Under 17-12


Week 16-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54026.0
1.   A Change of Seasons defeats A Rite of Passage 27-0 
2.   A New Beginning defeats Along For the Ride 22-6 
3.   Out of Reach defeats Another Won 19-9 
4.   Pale Blue Dot defeats Begin Again 24-4
5.   Ravenskill defeats Burning My Soul 17-11   
6.   S2N defeats Constant Motion 21-7 
7.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Dystopian Overture 23-5
8.   Status Seeker defeats False Awakening Suite 16-12 
9.   Finally Free defeats Take Away My Pain 26-2 
10.   The Dark Eternal Night defeats I Walk Beside You 17-11
11.   Lie defeats The Path That Divides 14-13 
12.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats The Road to Revolution 23-5 
13.   Misunderstood defeats The Way It Used to Be 25-3
14.   This is the Life defeats New Millennium 16-12 
15.   Untethered Angel defeats When Your Time Has Come 20-8 
16.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats The Bigger Picture 17-11 
17.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Peruvian Skies 22-6 
18.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Endless Sacrifice 23-5
19.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Fall Into the Light 20-8 

Week 16-D - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54033.0
1.   2285 Entr’acte defeats Act of Faythe 12-11
2.   A Life Left Behind defeats Anna Lee 15-10 
3.   Overture 1928 defeats Behind the Veil 17-8   
4.   Bridges in the Sky defeats Paralyzed 20-5
5.   Caught in a Web defeats Raise the Knife 19-6
6.   Room 137 defeats Cover My Eyes 17-7
7.   Scarred defeats Enigma Machine 24-0     
8.   Hollow Years defeats The Best of Times 18-7 
9.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats The Killing Hand 21-4
10.   Lord Nafaryus defeats The Shattered Fortress 14-11 
11.   Moment of Betrayal defeats The Walking Shadow 17-7
12.   Octavarium defeats This Dying Soul 23-2 
13.   Through My Words defeats You Not Me 16-9
14.   The Mirror defeats Lifting Shadows Off a Dream 18-7   
15.   Wait For Sleep defeats Vacant 20-5 
16.   Erotomania defeats Surrender to Reason 16-9 
17.   At Wit’s End defeats On the Backs of Angels 22-2
18.   Illumination Theory defeats The Dance of Eternity 15-10

Week 16 Match of the Week - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54035.0
Take the Time & Fatal Tragedy Tied 11-11 

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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 15 Standings
« Reply #123 on: June 30, 2019, 09:27:34 AM »

Standings after Week 16

1.000 Winning % – Songs 1-6
Blind Faith (16-0)
Breaking All Illusions (16-0)
A Change of Seasons (16-0)
Learning to Live (16-0)
Metropolis (16-0)
Scarred (16-0)

.969 Winning % Song 7
The Mirror (15-0-1)

.938 Winning %. Songs 8-16
At Wit’s End (15-1)
Home (15-1)
In the Presence of Enemies (15-1)
Octavarium (15-1)
Pull Me Under (15-1)
S2N (15-1)
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (15-1)
Trial of Tears (15-1)
Voices (15-1)

.906 Winning %. Songs 17 & 18
Surrounded (14-1-1)
Take the Time (14-1-1)

.875 Winning %. Songs 19-27
Another Day (14-2)
Beyond This Life (14-2)
Bridges in the Sky (14-2)
The Count of Tuscany (14-2)
Erotomania (14-2)
Finally Free (14-2)
In the Name of God (14-2)
Misunderstood (14-2)
The Spirit Carries On (14-2)

.844 Winning %. Songs 28 & 29
Lie (13-2-1)
Panic Attack (13-2-1)

.813 Winning %. Songs 30-38
Barstool Warrior (13-3)
Disappear (13-3)
The Glass Prison (13-3)
Illumination Theory (13-3)
Lines in the Sand (13-3)
Pale Blue Dot (13-3)
Space-Dye Vest (13-3)
Strange Déjà vu (13-3)
Under a Glass Moon (13-3)

.781 Winning %. Songs 39-40
Fatal Tragedy (12-3-1) 
Hell’s Kitchen (12-3-1)

.750 Winning %. Songs 41-45
6:00 (12-4)
Fall Into the Light (12-4)
A New Beginning (12-4)
Overture 1928 (12-4)
Wait For Sleep (12-4)

.719 Winning %. Songs 46 & 47
Caught in a Web (11-4-1)
Stream of Consciousness (11-4-1)

.688 Winning %. Songs 48-56
As I Am (11-5)
The Dance of Eternity (11-5)
Endless Sacrifice (11-5)
Innocence Faded (11-5)
The Ministry of Lost Souls (11-5)
The Great Debate (11-5)
Peruvian Skies (11-5)
The Shattered Fortress (11-5)
These Walls (11-5)

.656 Winning %. Song 57
A Life Left Behind (10-5-1)

.625 Winning %. Songs 58-62
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream (10-6)
Lost Not Forgotten (10-6)
New Millennium (10-6)
The Root of All Evil (10-6)
Surrender to Reason (10-6)

.591 Winning %. Song 63
The Bigger Picture (9-6-1)

.563 Winning %. Songs 64-68
Outcry (9-7)
Paralyzed (9-7)
Three Days (9-7)
Untethered Angel (9-7)
Wither (9-7)

.531 Winning %. Songs 69 & 70
This Dying Soul (8-7-1)
This is the Life (8-7-1)

.500 Winning %. Songs 71-75
Beneath the Surface (8-8)
A Better Life (8-8)
Out of Reach (8-8)
Ravenskill (8-8)
Sacrificed Sons (8-8)

.469 Winning %. Song 76
On the Backs of Angels (7-8-1)

.438 Winning %. Songs 77-83
Anna Lee (7-9)
Honor Thy Father (7-9)
The Killing Hand (7-9)
A Nightmare to Remember (7-9)
The Path That Divides (7-9)
Take Away My Pain (7-9)
Through Her Eyes (7-9)

.406 Winning %. Songs 84-87
Behind the Veil (6-9-1)
Constant Motion (6-9-1)
Dystopian Overture (6-9-1)
The Enemy Inside (6-9-1)

.375 Winning %. Songs 88-96
Build Me Up, Break Me Down (6-10)
Eve (6-10) 
Lord Nafaryus (6-10)
One Last Time (6-10)
Our New World (6-10)
The Walking Shadow (6-10)
Vacant (6-10)
Viper King (6-10)
Ytse Jam (6-10)

.344 Winning %. Songs 97 & 98
The Looking Glass (5-10-1)
The Silent Man (5-10-1)

.313 Winning %. Songs 99-108
Afterlife (5-11)
Along For the Ride (5-11)
Astonishing (5-11)
Chosen (5-11)
Forsaken (5-11)
The Gift of Music (5-11)
Never Enough (5-11)
The Road to Revolution (5-11)
To Live Forever (5-11)
When Your Time Has Come (5-11)

.281 Winning %. Song 109
Far From Heaven (4-11-1)

.250 Winning %. Songs 110-117
The Dark Eternal Night (4-12)
Heaven’s Cove (4-12)
Hollow Years (4-12)
Only A Matter of Time (4-12)
Raise the Knife (4-12)
A Savior in the Square (4-12)
Speak to Me (4-12)
Through My Words (4-12)

.219 Winning %. Song 118
Repentance (3-12-1)

.188 Winning %. Songs 119-126
Another Won (3-13)
The Answer Lies Within (3-13)
Enigma Machine (3-13)
A Fortune in Lies (3-13)
Moment of Betrayal (3-13)
I Walk Beside You (3-13)
Just Let Me Breathe (3-13)
Room 137 (3-13)

.156 Winning %. Songs 127-129
False Awakening Suite (2-13-1)
Status Seeker (2-13-1)
The X Aspect (2-13-1)

.125 Winning %. Songs 130-135
2285 Entr’acte (2-14)
Begin Again (2-14)
The Best of Times (2-14)
Don’t Look Past Me (2-14)
Hymn of a Thousand Voices (2-14)
Prophets of War (2-14)

.094 Winning %. Song 136
My Last Farewell (1-14-1)

.063 Winning %. Songs 137-144
Act of Faythe (1-15)
The Answer (1-15)
Brother, Can You Hear Me? (1-15)
Burning My Soul (1-15)
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun (1-15)
A Rite of Passage (1-15)
A Tempting Offer (1-15)
You Not Me (1-15)

.000 Winning % Songs 145-152
Cover My Eyes (0-16)
Light Fuse and Get Away (0-16)
Losing Faythe (0-16)
Raw Dog (0-16)
Regression (0-16)
The Way It Used to Be (0-16)
Where Are You Now? (0-16)
Whispers On the Wind (0-16)


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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 16 Standings
« Reply #124 on: June 30, 2019, 01:39:19 PM »
Random fact, that you could attribute some deep meaning to...I'm not gonna stop you...We have 26 songs with ties to their record so far. But none has tied more than once yet.

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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 16 Standings
« Reply #125 on: June 30, 2019, 02:52:03 PM »
Also, Images and Words it's the only album with two songs still in the lead - and they were three up until the last round!

And now for the addendum "random stuff nobody cares about", here's the standings of the AA saga songs:

The Glass Prison (13-3)

The Shattered Fortress (11-5)

The Root of All Evil (10-6)

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This Dying Soul (8-7-1)

Repentance (3-12-1)


As of now, the songs below the line are eliminated.

I wouldn't have imagined that Shattered Fortress were two difficult matches away for TGP from the leadership - I thought it would do much worse, a lot of people seem to complain that it's "just" a mashup of the older themes with hardly new stuff!
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 16 Standings
« Reply #126 on: July 01, 2019, 06:42:40 AM »
The worst performing song off of Images and Words is Wait for Sleep at 12-4.  Awake and Six Degrees is the only other albums where every song has a winning record. 
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 16 Standings
« Reply #127 on: July 01, 2019, 07:41:54 AM »
The worst performing song off of Images and Words is Wait for Sleep at 12-4. 

Which means that the "worst" song off Images and Words is still rated higher than *anything* from the following albums:

When Dream and Day Unite
Black Clouds and Silver Linings
The Astonishing


We should cross-check the other albums but gut feeling is that there's no other situation where the least rated song of any other album is above the best song of another album.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 16 Standings
« Reply #128 on: July 01, 2019, 09:54:29 AM »
We should cross-check the other albums but gut feeling is that there's no other situation where the least rated song of any other album is above the best song of another album.

It would be for Awake and TA, except for The Silent Man (and probably also for SFAM but for Regression).
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 16 Standings
« Reply #129 on: July 07, 2019, 12:10:32 PM »
Week 17-A - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54043.0
1.   6:00 defeats New Millennium 17-5
2.   Metropolis defeats Whispers On the Wind 21-1 
3.   The Glass Prison defeats Don’t Look Past Me 21-2
4.   Blind Faith defeats Take Away My Pain 18-5 
5.   Scarred defeats Another Won 21-1
6.   The Enemy Inside defeats Cover My Eyes 20-2
7.   When Your Time Has Come defeats Losing Faythe 17-4
8.   The Answer Lies Within & Brother, Can You Hear Me? Tied 11-11
9.   Barstool Warrior defeats Status Seeker 19-4
10.   Raise the Knife defeats A Rite of Passage 17-5   
11.   Afterlife defeats Repentance 15-8
12.   Paralyzed defeat A Fortune in Lies 12-11 
13.   In the Name of God defeats Through Her Eyes 20-3
14.   Far From Heaven defeats The Road to Revolution 12-11
15.   The Spirit Carries On defeats Heaven’s Cove 21-2 
16.   Erotomania defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 15-8 
17.   These Walls defeats Honor Thy Father 17-6   
18.   Outcry defeats On the Backs of Angels 14-9
19.   Learning to Live defeats Under a Glass Moon 18-4


Week 17-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54046.0
1.   Untethered Angel defeats Lie 13-10
2.   Misunderstood defeats Wither 16-7
3.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Where Are You Now? 19-4 
4.   Hollow Years defeats The Way It Used to Be 15-7 
5.   Build Me Up, Break Me Down defeats The Best of Times 13-10
6.   The Great Debate defeats Dystopian Overture 19-3 
7.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Begin Again 21-2 
8.   Octavarium defeats A Better Life 22-1 
9.   Room 137 defeats Along For the Ride 14-9
10.   Ravenskill defeats A Savior In the Square 15-5 
11.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Through My Words 17-6
12.   The Mirror defeats Eve 21-2 
13.   Overture 1928 defeats One Last Time 17-6 
14.   Disappear defeats The Gift of Music 19-4 
15.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats As I Am 21-2
16.   Finally Free defeats The Shattered Fortress 20-3

Week 17-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54050.0
1.   Never Enough defeats 2285 Entr’acte 20-5 
2.   Moment of Betrayal defeats You Not Me 19-6 
3.   Wait For Sleep defeats Lord Nafaryus 18-7 
4.   The Looking Glass defeats Enigma Machine 18-6
5.   The Bigger Picture defeats Burning My Soul 17-8   
6.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Behind the Veil 19-6
7.   Bridges in the Sky defeats The Answer 23-2 
8.   This Dying Soul defeats Hymn of a Thousand Voices 20-5 
9.   Innocence Faded defeats To Live Forever 15-10 
10.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Chosen 18-5
11.   S2N defeats Anna Lee 20-5 
12.   A New Beginning defeats Prophets of War 18-6 
13.   A Tempting Offer defeats Raw Dog 18-4 
14.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Astonishing 23-2 
15.   The Silent Man defeats Forsaken 17-8 
16.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats The Walking Shadow 21-4
17.   Lifting Shadows Off a Dream defeats Vacant 19-6
18.   Pale Blue Dot defeats Our New World 18-7 
19.   Fall Into the Light defeats The Path That Divides 15-8 
20.   Peruvian Skies defeats A Life Left Behind 18-6   
21.   Illumination Theory defeats Three Days 19-5
22.   Beyond This Life defeats Surrounded 14-11 

Week 17-D - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54051.0
1.   A Change of Seasons defeats Only a Matter of Time 22-1
2.   Act of Faythe defeats Regression 16-7
3.   Ytse Jam defeats My Last Farewell 17-7 
4.   Constant Motion defeats The Dark Eternal Night 14-10   
5.   Trial of Tears defeats Just Let Me Breathe 22-1
6.   This is the Life defeats I Walk Beside You 14-10 
7.   Viper King defeats Light Fuse and Get Away 13-10
8.   The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun defeats False Awakening Suite 13-11 
9.   Home defeats The X Aspect 23-1 
10.   At Wit’s End defeats Speak to Me 23-1
11.   Panic Attack defeats Out of Reach 19-5 
12.   Endless Sacrifice defeats The Killing Hand 14-10
13.   Surrender to Reason defeats Beneath the Surface 16-8 
14.   Another Day defeats Sacrificed Sons 15-8 
15.   Pull Me Under defeats A Nightmare to Remember 18-5 
16.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Caught in a Web 17-7   
17.   Fatal Tragedy defeats The Root of All Evil 24-0 
18.   Voices defeats Lines in the Sand 15-9 


Week 17 Match of the Week - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54055.0
Breaking All Illusions defeats Take the Time 16-12 



Standings will be updated at some point!
Week 18 starts tomorrow.
Pretty much the halfway point of the season.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 16 Standings
« Reply #130 on: July 09, 2019, 08:31:03 AM »

Standings after Week 17

1.000 Winning % – Songs 1-6
Blind Faith (17-0)
Breaking All Illusions (17-0)
A Change of Seasons (17-0)
Learning to Live (17-0)
Metropolis (17-0)
Scarred (17-0)

.971 Winning % Song 7
The Mirror (16-0-1)

.941 Winning %. Songs 8-16
At Wit’s End (16-1)
Home (16-1)
In the Presence of Enemies (16-1)
Octavarium (16-1)
Pull Me Under (16-1)
S2N (16-1)
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (16-1)
Trial of Tears (16-1)
Voices (16-1)

.882 Winning %. Songs 17-25
Another Day (15-2)
Beyond This Life (15-2)
Bridges in the Sky (15-2)
The Count of Tuscany (15-2)
Erotomania (15-2)
Finally Free (15-2)
Misunderstood (15-2)
In the Name of God (15-2)
The Spirit Carries On (15-2)

.853 Winning %. Songs 26-28
Panic Attack (14-2-1)
Surrounded (14-2-1)
Take the Time (14-2-1)

.824 Winning %. Songs 29-35
Barstool Warrior (14-3)
Disappear (14-3)
The Glass Prison (14-3)
Illumination Theory (14-3)
Pale Blue Dot (14-3)
Space-Dye Vest (14-3)
Strange Déjà vu (14-3)

.794 Winning %. Songs 36-38
Fatal Tragedy (13-3-1) 
Hell’s Kitchen (13-3-1)
Lie (13-3-1)

.765 Winning %. Songs 39-45
6:00 (13-4)
Fall Into the Light (13-4)
Lines in the Sand (13-4)
A New Beginning (13-4)
Overture 1928 (13-4)
Under a Glass Moon (13-4)
Wait For Sleep (13-4)

.735 Winning %. Song 46
Stream of Consciousness (12-4-1)

.706 Winning %. Songs 47-52
The Dance of Eternity (12-5)
Endless Sacrifice (12-5)
The Great Debate (12-5)
Innocence Faded (12-5)
Peruvian Skies (12-5)
These Walls (12-5)

.676 Winning %. Song 53
Caught in a Web (11-5-1)

.647 Winning %. Songs 54-59
As I Am (11-6)
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream (11-6)
Lost Not Forgotten (11-6)
The Ministry of Lost Souls (11-6)
The Shattered Fortress (11-6)
Surrender to Reason (11-6)

.618 Winning %. Songs 60 & 61
The Bigger Picture (10-6-1)
A Life Left Behind (10-6-1)

.588 Winning %. Songs 62-66
New Millennium (10-7)
Outcry (10-7)
Paralyzed (10-7)
The Root of All Evil (10-7)
Untethered Angel (10-7)

.559 Winning %. Songs 67 & 68
This Dying Soul (9-7-1)
This is the Life (9-7-1)

.529 Winning %. Songs 69-71
Ravenskill (9-8)
Three Days (9-8)
Wither (9-8)

.471 Winning %. Songs 72-75
Beneath the Surface (8-9)
A Better Life (8-9)
Out of Reach (8-9)
Sacrificed Sons (8-9)

.441 Winning %. Songs 76-78
Constant Motion (7-9-1)
The Enemy Inside (7-9-1)
On the Backs of Angels (7-9-1)

.412 Winning % Songs 79-88
Anna Lee (7-10)
Build Me Up, Break Me Down (7-10)
Honor Thy Father (7-10)
The Killing Hand (7-10)
A Nightmare to Remember (7-10)
The Path That Divides (7-10)
Take Away My Pain (7-10)
Through Her Eyes (7-10)
Viper King (7-10)
Ytse Jam (7-10)

.382 Winning %. Songs 89-92
Behind the Veil (6-10-1)
Dystopian Overture (6-10-1)
The Looking Glass (6-10-1)
The Silent Man (6-10-1)

.353 Winning %. Songs 93-101
Afterlife (6-11)
Eve (6-11) 
Lord Nafaryus (6-11)
Never Enough (6-11)
One Last Time (6-11)
Our New World (6-11)
Vacant (6-11)
The Walking Shadow (6-11)
When Your Time Has Come (6-11)

.324 Winning %. Song 102
Far From Heaven (5-11-1)

.294 Winning %. Songs 103-111
Along For the Ride (5-12)
Astonishing (5-12)
Chosen (5-12)
Forsaken (5-12)
The Gift of Music (5-12)
Hollow Years (5-12)
Raise the Knife (5-12)
The Road to Revolution (5-12)
To Live Forever (5-12)

.235 Winning %. Songs 112-119
The Dark Eternal Night (4-13)   
Heaven’s Cove (4-13)
Moment of Betrayal (4-13)
Only A Matter of Time (4-13)
A Savior in the Square (4-13)
Room 137 (4-13)
Speak to Me (4-13)
Through My Words (4-13)

.206 Winning %. Songs 120 & 121
The Answer Lies Within (3-13-1)
Repentance (3-13-1)

.176 Winning % Songs 122-126
Another Won (3-14)
Enigma Machine (3-14)
A Fortune in Lies (3-14)
I Walk Beside You (3-14)
Just Let Me Breathe (3-14)

.147 Winning %. Songs 127-129
False Awakening Suite (2-14-1)
Status Seeker (2-14-1)
The X Aspect (2-14-1)

.118 Winning %. Songs 130-138
2285 Entr’acte (2-15)
Act of Faythe (2-15)
Begin Again (2-15)
The Best of Times (2-15)
Don’t Look Past Me (2-15)
Hymn of a Thousand Voices (2-15)
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun (2-15)
Prophets of War (2-15)
A Tempting Offer (2-15)

.088 Winning %. Songs 139 & 140
Brother, Can You Hear Me? (1-15-1)
My Last Farewell (1-15-1)

.059 Winning %. Songs 141-144
The Answer (1-16)
Burning My Soul (1-16)
A Rite of Passage (1-16)
You Not Me (1-16)

.000 Winning % Songs 145-152
Cover My Eyes (0-17)
Light Fuse and Get Away (0-17)
Losing Faythe (0-17)
Raw Dog (0-17)
Regression (0-17)
The Way It Used to Be (0-17)
Where Are You Now? (0-17)
Whispers On the Wind (0-17)


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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 17 Standings
« Reply #131 on: July 09, 2019, 09:00:18 AM »
In my unrequested commentary of the week and focus on a certain kind of songs, here's how the instrumentals are doing!

Songs below the line, as of now, would be eliminated.

Erotomania (15-2)

Hell’s Kitchen (13-3-1)

Overture 1928 (13-4)

Stream of Consciousness (12-4-1)

The Dance of Eternity (12-5)

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Ytse Jam (7-10)

Dystopian Overture (6-10-1)

Eve (6-11) 

Enigma Machine (3-14)

False Awakening Suite (2-14-1)

2285 Entr’acte (2-15)

Raw Dog (0-17)


I'm surprised at Hell's Kitchen being almost at the top - yeah, it's good but the first half of the song was a Burning My Soul leftover, and the best part of it was written just to tie in to Lines in the Sand. Sure, intentions don't matter if the ending result is good, but I thought the other three qualified instrumentals would all fare better.

There's also a big divide between the for-now qualified songs and the for-now eliminated songs - the instrumentals which are liked are doing VERY good, the other ones are all way, way below the qualification point and all very unlikely to ever catch up with the first 64.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 17 Standings
« Reply #132 on: July 14, 2019, 08:59:38 AM »
Week 18-A - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54060.0
1.   Trial of Tears defeats 2285 Entr’acte 24-1 
2.   These Walls defeat Viper King 18-8 
3.   The Spirit Carries On defeats Where Are You Now? 24-2 
4.   Ytse Jam defeats The Road to Revolution 18-7
5.   The Ministry Of Lost Souls defeats Only a Matter of Time 15-9
6.   The Glass Prison defeats My Last Farewell 23-3 
7.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Lost Not Forgotten 15-11 
8.   Lifting Shadows Off a Dream defeats The Best of Times 22-4 
9.   Surrounded defeats Just Let Me Breathe 24-2 
10.   Illumination Theory defeats Status Seeker 22-3 
11.   Forsaken defeats Repentance 17-9
12.   Raise the Knife defeats False Awakening Suite 18-8 
13.   Beneath the Surface defeats A Rite of Passage 21-5 
14.   At Wit’s End defeats Afterlife 20-6 
15.   Disappear defeats Outcry 16-10
16.   Caught in a Web defeats On the Backs of Angels 14-12
17.   Beyond This Life defeats A Nightmare to Remember 24-2 
18.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Hell’s Kitchen 14-12
19.   Fatal Tragedy defeats S2N 22-4



Week 18-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54065.0
1.   Another Day defeats Another Won 22-3 
2.   A Change of Seasons defeats Through Her Eyes 23-2 
3.   Barstool Warrior defeats Act of Faythe 20-5 
4.   Voices defeats The X Aspect 25-0 
5.   The Silent Man defeats Whispers On the Wind 22-3 
6.   Never Enough defeats The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 15-10
7.   Metropolis defeats The Looking Glass 23-2 
8.   In the Name of God defeats The Answer 23-2 
9.   Surrender to Reason defeats Honor Thy Father 17-8 
10.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Hollow Years 22-3
11.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Far From Heaven 17-8 
12.   Erotomania defeats Regression 24-1
13.   Pull Me Under defeats Don’t Look Past Me 22-3 
14.   Out of Reach defeats Brother, Can You Hear Me? 19-6 
15.   Lines in the Sand defeats The Gift of Music 21-4 
16.   Bridges in the Sky defeats A Fortune in Lies 21-4 
17.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Three Days 19-6
18.   Lie defeats The Bigger Picture 13-12 
19.   Blind Faith defeats A New Beginning 14-11 

Week 18-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54068.0
1.   6:00 defeats To Live Forever 17-6
2.   This Dying Soul defeats Vacant 16-7 
3.   The Walking Shadow defeats When Your Time Has Come 11-10 
4.   The Root of All Evil defeats You Not Me 22-1 
5.   The Path That Divides &  New Millennium tied 11-11
6.   The Great Debate defeats Moment of Betrayal 14-8 
7.   The Dark Eternal Night defeats Losing Faythe 17-5 
8.   The Answer Lies Within defeats Light Fuse and Get Away 12-11   
9.   Innocence Faded defeats Take Away My Pain 17-6
10.   Strange Déjà vu defeats I Walk Beside You 21-2 
11.   Heaven’s Cove defeats Speak to Me 13-8 
12.   Finally Free defeats Room 137 20-3
13.   Fall Into the Light defeats Ravenskill 14-9 
14.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Peruvian Skies 13-10
15.   Overture 1928 defeats Cover My Eyes 23-0 
16.   One Last Time defeats Burning My Soul 20-3 
17.   Along For the Ride defeats Astonishing 15-7 
18.   Breaking All Illusions defeats A Life Left Behind 23-0
19.   Take The Time defeats In the Presence of Enemies 15-8 

Week 18-D - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54071.0
1.   Untethered Angel defeats This is the Life 11-10 
2.   Wait For Sleep defeats The Way It Used to Be 18-4 
3.   Wither defeats The Shattered Fortress 13-9 
4.   A Better Life defeats Through My Words 13-9 
5.   Panic Attack defeats Chosen 17-4 
6.   Misunderstood defeats The Killing Hand 12-10 
7.   Lord Nafaryus defeats The Enemy Inside 13-9 
8.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Hymn of a Thousand Voices 19-3 
9.   Eve defeats Raw Dog 18-4 
10.   Behind the Veil defeats A Savior in the Square 16-6 
11.   Paralyzed defeats Enigma Machine 18-4 
12.   Dystopian Overture defeats Prophets of War 15-7 
13.   Pale Blue Dot defeats Constant Motion 18-4 
14.   Our New World defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 12-10
15.   A Tempting Offer & Begin Again tied 10-10
16.   As I Am defeats Anna Lee 20-2 
17.   Octavarium defeats The Mirror 17-5 
18.   Learning to Live defeats The Count of Tuscany 17-5 

Week 18 Match of the Week - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54075.0
Scarred defeats Home 15-13 
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 17 Standings
« Reply #133 on: July 14, 2019, 09:00:57 AM »

Standings after Week 18


1.000 Winning % – Songs 1-6
Blind Faith (18-0)
Breaking All Illusions (18-0)
A Change of Seasons (18-0)
Learning to Live (18-0)
Metropolis (18-0)
Scarred (18-0)

.944 Winning %. Songs 7-12
At Wit’s End (17-1)
Octavarium (17-1)
Pull Me Under (17-1)
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (17-1)
Trial of Tears (17-1)
Voices (17-1)

.917 Winning % Song 13
The Mirror (16-1-1)

.889 Winning %. Songs 14-24
Another Day (16-2)
Beyond This Life (16-2)
Bridges in the Sky (16-2)
Erotomania (16-2)
Finally Free (16-2)
Home (16-2)
In the Name of God (16-2)
In the Presence of Enemies (16-2)
Misunderstood (16-2)
S2N (16-2)
The Spirit Carries On (16-2)

.861 Winning %. Songs 25-27
Panic Attack (15-2-1)
Surrounded (15-2-1)
Take the Time (15-2-1)

.833 Winning %. Songs 28-35
Barstool Warrior (15-3)
The Count of Tuscany (15-3)
Disappear (15-3)
The Glass Prison (15-3)
Illumination Theory (15-3)
Pale Blue Dot (15-3)
Space-Dye Vest (15-3)
Strange Déjà vu (15-3)

.806 Winning %. Songs 36 & 37
Fatal Tragedy (14-3-1) 
Lie (14-3-1)

.778 Winning %. Songs 38-43
6:00 (14-4)
Fall Into the Light (14-4)
Lines in the Sand (14-4)
Overture 1928 (14-4)
Under a Glass Moon (14-4)
Wait For Sleep (14-4)

.750 Winning %. Songs 44 & 45
Hell’s Kitchen (13-4-1)
Stream of Consciousness (13-4-1)

.722 Winning %. Songs 46-51
The Dance of Eternity (13-5)
Endless Sacrifice (13-5)
The Great Debate (13-5)
Innocence Faded (13-5)
A New Beginning (13-5)
These Walls (13-5)

.694 Winning %. Song 52
Caught in a Web (12-5-1)

.667 Winning %. Songs 53-57
As I Am (12-6)
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream (12-6)
The Ministry of Lost Souls (12-6)
Peruvian Skies (12-6)
Surrender to Reason (12-6)

.618 Winning %. Songs 58
The Bigger Picture (10-6-1)

.611 Winning %. Songs 59-63
Lost Not Forgotten (11-7)
Paralyzed (11-7)
The Root of All Evil (11-7)
The Shattered Fortress (11-7)
Untethered Angel (11-7)

.583 Winning %. Songs 64-66
This Dying Soul (10-7-1)
A Life Left Behind (10-7-1)
New Millennium (10-7-1)

.556 Winning %. Songs 67 & 68
Outcry (10-8)
Wither (10-8)

.528 Winning %. Song 69
This is the Life (9-8-1)

.500 Winning %. Songs 70-75
Beneath the Surface (9-9)
A Better Life (9-9)
Out of Reach (9-9)
Ravenskill (9-9)
Sacrificed Sons (9-9)
Three Days (9-9)

.444 Winning %. Song 76
Ytse Jam (8-10)

.417 Winning %. Songs 77-83
Behind the Veil (7-10-1)
Constant Motion (7-10-1)
Dystopian Overture (7-10-1)
The Enemy Inside (7-10-1)
On the Backs of Angels (7-10-1)
The Path That Divides (7-10-1)
The Silent Man (7-10-1)

.389 Winning %. Songs 84-97
Anna Lee (7-11)
Build Me Up, Break Me Down (7-11)
Eve (7-11) 
Honor Thy Father (7-11)
The Killing Hand (7-11)
Lord Nafaryus (7-11)
Never Enough (7-11)
A Nightmare to Remember (7-11)
One Last Time (7-11)
Our New World (7-11)
Take Away My Pain (7-11)
Through Her Eyes (7-11)
Viper King (7-11)
The Walking Shadow (7-11)

.361 Winning %. Song 98
The Looking Glass (6-11-1)

.333 Winning %. Songs 99-104
Afterlife (6-12)
Along For the Ride (6-12)
Forsaken (6-12)
Raise the Knife (6-12)
Vacant (6-12)
When Your Time Has Come (6-12)

.306 Winning %. Song 105
Far From Heaven (5-12-1)

.278 Winning %. Songs 106-113
Astonishing (5-13)
Chosen (5-13)
The Dark Eternal Night (5-13)
The Gift of Music (5-13)
Heaven’s Cove (5-13)
Hollow Years (5-13)
The Road to Revolution (5-13)
To Live Forever (5-13)

.250 Winning %. Songs 114
The Answer Lies Within (4-13-1)

.222 Winning %. Songs 115-120
Moment of Betrayal (4-14)
Only A Matter of Time (4-14)
Room 137 (4-14)
A Savior in the Square (4-14)
Speak to Me (4-14)
Through My Words (4-14)

.194 Winning %. Song 121
Repentance (3-14-1)

.167 Winning %. Songs 122-126
Another Won (3-15)
Enigma Machine (3-15)
A Fortune in Lies (3-15)
I Walk Beside You (3-15)
Just Let Me Breathe (3-15)

.139 Winning %. Songs 127-131
Begin Again (2-15-1)
False Awakening Suite (2-15-1)
Status Seeker (2-15-1)
A Tempting Offer (2-15-1)
The X Aspect (2-15-1)

.111 Winning %. Songs 132-138
2285 Entr’acte (2-16)
Act of Faythe (2-16)
The Best of Times (2-16)
Don’t Look Past Me (2-16)
Hymn of a Thousand Voices (2-16)
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun (2-16)
Prophets of War (2-16)

.083 Winning %. Songs 139 & 140
Brother, Can You Hear Me? (1-16-1)
My Last Farewell (1-16-1)

.056 Winning %. Songs 141-144
The Answer (1-17)
Burning My Soul (1-17)
A Rite of Passage (1-17)
You Not Me (1-17)

.000 Winning % Songs 145-152
Cover My Eyes (0-18)
Light Fuse and Get Away (0-18)
Losing Faythe (0-18)
Raw Dog (0-18)
Regression (0-18)
The Way It Used to Be (0-18)
Where Are You Now? (0-18)
Whispers On the Wind (0-18)


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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 17 Standings
« Reply #134 on: July 14, 2019, 09:19:43 AM »
Week 18 standings have only the D batch of matches.

First loss for The Mirror, alas, it's still at the top obviously but now it slides back behind the other songs with just one loss (but no draws).

Speaking of sliding back, I remember when New Millennium was at the very top - now it's almost there on the brink of being eliminated.

Which brings me to this.... how many songs do you all think are all realistically in the run for qualifications? I mean, math probably says that even You Not Me has still a chance, but being realistic - how many songs of the immediate group or groups after the 64th position could make it, at expense of those immediately above?

Outcry, Wither and This is the Life were both one victory away from entering the top 64, and the group following after (the Beneath the Surface one) is two victories behind, that doesn't seem impossible. And also the group of Behind the Veil is in the same boat, being bagged only by a draw. So I say that the first 83 songs COULD have a chance somehow, not all of them of course.

Looking at the group of 84-97 I already start to see songs that, while being good, are not universal fan favorites, and I can't imagine them doing that much better in future matches.

So I'd say that unless you're not aboard the 7 victories and 1 draw train, from down there you're screwed. Never say never of course but I don't see any of those songs from 84 onward being able to outperform 20 songs above them.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 17 Standings
« Reply #135 on: July 14, 2019, 12:27:23 PM »
I’m pleasantly surprised by how well Panic Attack is doing. With only two losses and being at the same place in the standings as Take the Time and Surrounded, two songs from the band’s most universally loved album, it’s success in the league thus far is making me very happy.
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 18 Standings
« Reply #136 on: July 16, 2019, 04:53:26 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 18 Standings
« Reply #137 on: July 17, 2019, 01:10:17 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 18 Standings
« Reply #138 on: July 23, 2019, 12:42:24 PM »
Week 19-A    - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54080.0
1.   The Root of All Evil defeats Afterlife 19-7 
2.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats 2285 Entr’acte 23-4
3.   Lie defeats Honor Thy Father 18-9 
4.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Hollow Years 15-12
5.   Moment of Betrayal defeats Forsaken 16-11
6.   Eve defeats Never Enough 15-12
7.   Dystopian Overture defeats Whispers On the Wind 20-4 
8.   Cover My Eyes defeats Where Are You Now? 13-9 
9.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 25-2 
10.   Blind Faith defeats Through Her Eyes 17-10
11.   Behind the Veil defeats Three Days 15-12
12.   The X Aspect defeats Astonishing 16-8 
13.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats A Savior in the Square 19-7 
14.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats The Killing Hand 14-13
15.   Our New World defeats The Gift of Music 14-13
16.   Outcry defeats The Best of Times 24-3 
17.   Ravenskill defeats Status Seeker 17-9 
18.   Scarred defeats Room 137 25-2
19.   Take the Time defeats Pull Me Under 22-5 

Week 19-B - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54083.0
1.   Home defeats Losing Faythe 25-1 
2.   Finally Free defeats My Last Farewell 25-1 
3.   Wither defeats Don’t Look Past Me 20-6
4.   Disappear defeats When Your Time Has Come 20-5 
5.   Untethered Angel defeats Brother, Can You Hear Me? 21-4 
6.   Beyond This Life defeats Through My Words 23-3
7.   This is the Life defeats Beneath the Surface 15-11
8.   At Wit’s End defeats The Way It Used to Be 24-2 
9.   Along For the Ride defeats The Road to Revolution 16-10 
10.   The Mirror defeats A Rite of Passage 25-1 
11.   A New Beginning defeats The Looking Glass 18-8
12.   The Enemy Inside & Out of Reach tied 13-13
13.   Overture 1928 defeats The Answer Lies Within 22-4 
14.   Prophets of War defeat The Answer 13-12
15.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Repentance 25-1 
16.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Raise the Knife 22-4
17.   Erotomania defeats New Millennium 18-8
18.   Illumination Theory defeats Lifting Shadows Off a Dream 14-12 
19.   Metropolis defeats Fatal Tragedy 18-8 

Week 19-C - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54093.0
1.   A Better Life defeats Just Let Me Breathe 16-11 
2.   I Walk Beside You defeats Light Fuse and Get Away 15-12 
3.   Lord Nafaryus defeats Heaven’s Cove 17-8 
4.   Misunderstood defeats Far From Heaven 21-6 
5.   Fall Into the Light defeats Only a Matter of Time 16-11
6.   Enigma Machine defeats You Not Me 15-12
7.   Wait For Sleep defeats Chosen 22-5 
8.   Viper King defeats Burning My Soul 14-13
9.   Bridges in the Sky defeats To Live Forever 24-3 
10.   These Walls defeats Begin Again 22-5
11.   The Walking Shadow defeats Another Won 14-11
12.   A Tempting Offer defeats The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 14-12 
13.   The Great Debate defeats A Fortune in Lies 20-7 
14.   On the Backs of Angels defeats The Dark Eternal Night 17-9
15.   Paralyzed defeats Take Away My Pain 18-9
16.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Regression 23-4
17.   S2N defeats Speak to Me 22-5
18.   The Silent Man defeats Anna Lee 17-10 
19.   Panic Attack defeats The Bigger Picture 16-11 

Week 19-D - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54094.0
1.   Octavarium defeats False Awakening Suite 30-0
2.   Surrender to Reason defeats Raw Dog 27-3 
3.   The Path That Divides defeats Act of Faythe 25-2
4.   Learning to Live defeats Hymn of a Thousand Voices 29-1 
5.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Ytse Jam 19-10 
6.   Lines in the Sand defeats Hell’s Kitchen 23-7
7.   Voices defeats Constant Motion 28-2 
8.   Caught in a Web defeats Vacant 24-6
9.   Barstool Warrior defeats This Dying Soul 18-12 
10.   The Spirit Carries On defeats As I Am 18-12
11.   Another Day defeats The Shattered Fortress 23-7 
12.   The Glass Prison defeats A Life Left Behind 24-6 
13.   The Dance of Eternity defeats One Last Time 19-11 
14.   Surrounded defeats Peruvian Skies 19-11 
15.   In the Name of God defeats 6:00 22-8
16.   A Change of Seasons defeats Innocence Faded 29-1
17.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Sacrificed Sons 20-10 
18.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Pale Blue Dot 21-9 


Week 19 Match of the Week - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=54095.0
Breaking All Illusions defeats Trial of Tears 17-14

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Re: Dream Theater The League - Home Thread - Week 18 Standings
« Reply #139 on: July 23, 2019, 12:43:08 PM »

Standings after Week 19

1.000 Winning % – Songs 1-6
Blind Faith (19-0)
Breaking All Illusions (19-0)
A Change of Seasons (19-0)
Learning to Live (19-0)
Metropolis (19-0)
Scarred (19-0)

.947 Winning %. Songs 7-10
At Wit’s End (18-1)
Octavarium (18-1)
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (18-1)
Voices (18-1)

.921 Winning % Song 11
The Mirror (17-1-1)

.895 Winning %. Songs 12-24
Another Day (17-2)
Beyond This Life (17-2)
Bridges in the Sky (17-2)
Erotomania (17-2)
Finally Free (17-2)
Home (17-2)
In the Name of God (17-2)
In the Presence of Enemies (17-2)
Misunderstood (17-2)
Pull Me Under (17-2)
S2N (17-2)
The Spirit Carries On (17-2)
Trial of Tears (17-2)

.868 Winning %. Songs 25-27
Panic Attack (16-2-1)
Surrounded (16-2-1)
Take the Time (16-2-1)

.842 Winning %. Songs 28-34
Barstool Warrior (16-3)
The Count of Tuscany (16-3)
Disappear (16-3)
The Glass Prison (16-3)
Illumination Theory (16-3)
Space-Dye Vest (16-3)
Strange Déjà vu (16-3)

.816 Winning %. Songs 35 & 36
Fatal Tragedy (15-3-1) 
Lie (15-3-1)

.789 Winning %. Songs 37-42
Fall Into the Light (15-4)
Lines in the Sand (15-4)
Overture 1928 (15-4)
Pale Blue Dot (15-4)
Under a Glass Moon (15-4)
Wait For Sleep (15-4)

.763 Winning %. Song 43
Stream of Consciousness (14-4-1)

.737 Winning %. Songs 44-49
6:00 (14-5)
The Dance of Eternity (14-5)
Endless Sacrifice (14-5)
The Great Debate (14-5)
A New Beginning (14-5)
These Walls (14-5)

.711 Winning %. Songs 50 & 51
Caught in a Web (13-5-1)
Hell’s Kitchen (13-5-1)

.684 Winning %. Songs 52-54
Innocence Faded (13-6)
The Ministry of Lost Souls (13-6)
Surrender to Reason (13-6)

.632 Winning %. Songs 55-61
As I Am (12-7)
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream (12-7)
Lost Not Forgotten (12-7)
Paralyzed (12-7)
Peruvian Skies (12-7)
The Root of All Evil (12-7)
Untethered Angel (12-7)

.579 Winning %. Songs 62-64
Outcry (11-8)
The Shattered Fortress (11-8)
Wither (11-8)

.553 Winning %. Songs 65-69
The Bigger Picture (10-8-1)
New Millennium (10-8-1)
This Dying Soul (10-8-1)
A Life Left Behind (10-8-1)
This is the Life (10-8-1)

.526 Winning %. Songs 70 & 71
A Better Life (10-9)
Ravenskill (10-9)

.500 Winning %. Song 72
Out of Reach (9-9-1)

.474 Winning %. Songs 73-75
Beneath the Surface (9-10)
Sacrificed Sons (9-10)
Three Days (9-10)

.447 Winning %. Songs 76-80
Behind the Veil (8-10-1)
Dystopian Overture (8-10-1)
On the Backs of Angels (8-10-1)
The Path That Divides (8-10-1)
The Silent Man (8-10-1)

.421 Winning %. Songs 81-88
The Enemy Inside (7-10-2)
Eve (8-11) 
Lord Nafaryus (8-11)
A Nightmare to Remember (8-11)
Our New World (8-11)
Viper King (8-11)
The Walking Shadow (8-11)
Ytse Jam (8-11)

.394 Winning %. Song 89
Constant Motion (7-11-1)

.368 Winning %. Songs 90-98
Along For the Ride (7-12)
Anna Lee (7-12)
Build Me Up, Break Me Down (7-12)
Honor Thy Father (7-12)
The Killing Hand (7-12)
Never Enough (7-12)
One Last Time (7-12)
Take Away My Pain (7-12)
Through Her Eyes (7-12)

.342 Winning %. Song 99
The Looking Glass (6-12-1)

.316 Winning %. Songs 100-104
Afterlife (6-13)
Forsaken (6-13)
Raise the Knife (6-13)
Vacant (6-13)
When Your Time Has Come (6-13)

.289 Winning %. Song 105
Far From Heaven (5-13-1)

.263 Winning %. Songs 106-114
Astonishing (5-14)
Chosen (5-14)
The Dark Eternal Night (5-14)
The Gift of Music (5-14)
Heaven’s Cove (5-14)
Hollow Years (5-14)
Moment of Betrayal (5-14)
The Road to Revolution (5-14)
To Live Forever (5-14)

.237 Winning %. Song 115
The Answer Lies Within (4-14-1)

.211 Winning %. Songs 116-122
Enigma Machine (4-15)
I Walk Beside You (4-15)
Only A Matter of Time (4-15)
Room 137 (4-15)
A Savior in the Square (4-15)
Speak to Me (4-15)
Through My Words (4-15)

.184 Winning %. Songs 123-125
Repentance (3-15-1)
A Tempting Offer (3-15-1)
The X Aspect (3-15-1)

.158 Winning %. Songs 126-129
Another Won (3-16)
A Fortune in Lies (3-16)
Just Let Me Breathe (3-16)
Prophets of War (3-16)

.132 Winning %. Songs 130-132
Begin Again (2-16-1)
False Awakening Suite (2-16-1)
Status Seeker (2-16-1)

.105 Winning %. Songs 133-138
2285 Entr’acte (2-17)
Act of Faythe (2-17)
The Best of Times (2-17)
Don’t Look Past Me (2-17)
Hymn of a Thousand Voices (2-17)
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun (2-17)

.079 Winning %. Songs 139 & 140
Brother, Can You Hear Me? (1-17-1)
My Last Farewell (1-17-1)

.053 Winning %. Songs 141-145
The Answer (1-18)
Burning My Soul (1-18)
Cover My Eyes (1-18)
A Rite of Passage (1-18)
You Not Me (1-18)

.000 Winning % Songs 146-152
Light Fuse and Get Away (0-19)
Losing Faythe (0-19)
Raw Dog (0-19)
Regression (0-19)
The Way It Used to Be (0-19)
Where Are You Now? (0-19)
Whispers On the Wind (0-19)


Week 20 is in progress.