2019 NFL Thread v. Chiefs are Champs, Missouri rules the sports world

[KevShmev]

Don't take this as me arguing with you. Reid as a top 6 QB doesn't bother me at all. This whole thing started because I said he was a liability with regards to beating out NE this year, because he is. His overall record isn't any better than Payton's, and he has a losing record in the playoffs, as opposed to Payton. Dude's had a lot of very good teams, nine playoff spots in the NFC-E isn't an easy thing to do. Nor is five more in the A-W but he has nothing to show for it. And in some of those cases it's directly attributable to him.

I am sitting here imagining how it would look to see Andy Reid trying to avoid a pass rush...

[King Postwhore]

The headset flies off....

[KevShmev]

He might be as fast as Tom Brady is now.

Which reminds of a Bill Burr (who's a Patriots fan) quote about Brady:

"Like did you see last year, when he threw that pick-six? When he dove to tackle that guy, it looked like somebody threw a dead body out of a car.”

 

[King Postwhore]

Oh I love Bill Burr and I heard that line.  Too damn funny.

[KevShmev]

You wanna laugh for like an hour straight?  Just watch clips of Bill Burr on Conan's show.  Non-stop hilarity.

[King Postwhore]

I saw him live last year.  My jaw was sore from laughing so damn much.

[cramx3]

Giants wide receivers group is off to a good start....

[TAC]

So, I'm watching the Braves/Nats game on ESPN tonight, and I see along The Bottom Line that Le'veon Bell apologized to fantasy owners.

Apologized? To fantasy owners?

Are you fucking kidding me? I know this isn't news, but holy shit, this guy is a douche.

[King Postwhore]

In fantasy,  I don't accept his apology. 

[PowerSlave]

So, I'm watching the Braves/Nats game on ESPN tonight, and I see along The Bottom Line that Le'veon Bell apologized to fantasy owners.

Apologized? To fantasy owners?

Are you fucking kidding me? I know this isn't news, but holy shit, this guy is a douche.

I read something a year or two ago that talked about how fantasy sports (NFL in particular) has become a huge money making industry. While I agree with you that his apology seems to be very silly, I know that the league takes it fairly serious, and there's huge amounts of money involved.

[TheCountOfNYC]

So, I'm watching the Braves/Nats game on ESPN tonight, and I see along The Bottom Line that Le'veon Bell apologized to fantasy owners.

Apologized? To fantasy owners?

Are you fucking kidding me? I know this isn't news, but holy shit, this guy is a douche.

Honestly it makes sense in a way. He took the year off because he knew his worth, and there’s no sympathy in business, but the fans who missed him last year deserve an apology.

[KevShmev]

Like it or not, fantasy football is a big reason football is king now. 

[Dublagent66]

Hmmm...I thought fantasy was created because real football was already king. 

[KevShmev]

This could be a "chicken and the egg" scenario.

Football was already getting bigger, and then FF really exploded and took it to the next level.  Heck, half of the guys in our local FF auction league, by their own admission, only watch football nowadays for the fantasy aspect of it, and I've heard that from a lot of other people.  I mean, who's gonna watch a Jags/Titans game (outside of fans of those teams)?  Fantasy football fans, that's who!!

[cramx3]

I think football was king before FF was a thing, but FF definitely made it bigger, but in my mind, the reason why football is king is because you could watch a Jags/Titan game and enjoy it.  Football is just a sport that you can really enjoy any game of (well, I mean you can watch other teams for the sport, obviously there are terrible games sometimes that you wish you didn't watch).  These days I hardly watch football outside of my team, but when I was younger I could sit all Sunday (or Saturday since I love college ball too) and watch whoever was on TV.

[El Barto]

There's this assumption that Tom Brady's career is going to end with a whimper, rather than a thud. The expectation is that he goes downhill like Manning and they have to shove him out the door. Seems to me the more likely outcome is that he gets injured and never recovers. If the dude breaks a leg, or destroys a knee, would he ever play again? That would be a real bummer. Like when Janikowski pulled his hamstring and you knew that you just saw his final play. Or Michael Irvin's final play, getting booed by the marginally sentient excrement in Veterans Stadium. I get that the dude can still play, and he has no reason to think that'll be the case as long as he's healthy. Misfortune happens, though, and he's tempting fate with each season he plays. That's not the way the GOAT should go out.

Eh, just a random musing.

[KevShmev]

I am pretty sure Brady honestly thinks he can play till he is 45, and if his o-line protects him like they did in the first two playoff games last year, he might be able to pull it off, but if teams can get pressure on him and knock him around a little, it will be difficult since injuries simply do not heal as quickly over the age of 40, no matter how much black magic that fake doctor of his uses, or whatever else he does.

[Stadler]

There's this assumption that Tom Brady's career is going to end with a whimper, rather than a thud. The expectation is that he goes downhill like Manning and they have to shove him out the door. Seems to me the more likely outcome is that he gets injured and never recovers. If the dude breaks a leg, or destroys a knee, would he ever play again? That would be a real bummer. Like when Janikowski pulled his hamstring and you knew that you just saw his final play. Or Michael Irvin's final play, getting booed by the marginally sentient excrement in Veterans Stadium. I get that the dude can still play, and he has no reason to think that'll be the case as long as he's healthy. Misfortune happens, though, and he's tempting fate with each season he plays. That's not the way the GOAT should go out.

Eh, just a random musing.

I agree with all of that.

[TAC]

Well, he only has one more year left contractually.

[King Postwhore]

Well, he only has one more year left contractually.

2 options on both sides.  They are keeping it year to year.  Understandable on both sides.

I do agree with El Barto.  It will be an injury that will end it.  Actually, it was Peyton's injury that finally took it's toll.  Those neck surgeries were just too much.

[El Barto]

Well, he only has one more year left contractually.

2 options on both sides.  They are keeping it year to year.  Understandable on both sides.

I do agree with El Barto.  It will be an injury that will end it.  Actually, it was Peyton's injury that finally took it's toll.  Those neck surgeries were just too much.

Peyton's injury was the whimper, though. He kept playing with diminishing skill, and was able to retire on a high note thanks to a world class defense. At this point any injury Brady suffers stands a pretty good chance of being a career-ender, even where other players would recover. He simply doesn't have the time. I'd just hate to see him go out in such an anticlimactic way, like Seabass.

[cramx3]

Is it more anti-climatic to go out on injury or by being a shell of your former self with everyone rooting for your back up?  Not saying that will happen to Brady, but hypothetically.  It's just kind of rare to have a hollywood ending to your career. 

[Dublagent66]

There's this assumption that Tom Brady's career is going to end with a whimper, rather than a thud. The expectation is that he goes downhill like Manning and they have to shove him out the door. Seems to me the more likely outcome is that he gets injured and never recovers.

All it takes is one hit to end a season or worse.  He's tempting fate and should probably bow out gracefully.  We all know he's the GOAT.  There's nothing left to prove.

[King Postwhore]

Well, he only has one more year left contractually.

2 options on both sides.  They are keeping it year to year.  Understandable on both sides.

I do agree with El Barto.  It will be an injury that will end it.  Actually, it was Peyton's injury that finally took it's toll.  Those neck surgeries were just too much.

Peyton's injury was the whimper, though. He kept playing with diminishing skill, and was able to retire on a high note thanks to a world class defense. At this point any injury Brady suffers stands a pretty good chance of being a career-ender, even where other players would recover. He simply doesn't have the time. I'd just hate to see him go out in such an anticlimactic way, like Seabass.

HGH can keep you going.

Though I'm for it. These guys give up their bodies for us. I'm all for it.

[TAC]

Though I'm for it. These guys give up their bodies for us. I'm all for it.

Putting down all those beers and sausages during the games, it seems you have returned the favor!

[pg1067]

Is it more anti-climatic to go out on injury or by being a shell of your former self with everyone rooting for your back up?  Not saying that will happen to Brady, but hypothetically.  It's just kind of rare to have a hollywood ending to your career.

Yup.

[King Postwhore]

Though I'm for it. These guys give up their bodies for us. I'm all for it.

Putting down all those beers and sausages during the games, it seems you have returned the favor!

No.  I need HGH!

[El Barto]

Is it more anti-climatic to go out on injury or by being a shell of your former self with everyone rooting for your back up?  Not saying that will happen to Brady, but hypothetically.  It's just kind of rare to have a hollywood ending to your career.

Yup.

Still the gold standard. Peyton went out on a high note, but he was done. Kaput. Elway was winding down, but he still had some game left in him.

[KevShmev]

Elway was still a borderline top 5 QB in his last few years; he just couldn't run around like he could in his younger days.

[King Postwhore]

Balance always helps and Elway still had a gun.

[KevShmev]

Flacco still has a gun, so there's hope, right?

 

 

[King Postwhore]

Ok.  Elway had a brain too.

[PowerSlave]

Elway was still a borderline top 5 QB in his last few years; he just couldn't run around like he could in his younger days.

I know that you already know, but I'm posting it anyways...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrYsO67ZZCU

[TAC]

Watching the Pats game tonight, and they just announced that Don Banks passed away. Holy shit. It's been awhile, but I used to think he was as good as they came on the NFL.
He's my wife's age. Way to young...


Seems he died in Canton after the HOF ceremony. Yikes.

[King Postwhore]

He was at Canton for thr HOF introductions.   I saw his son's tweet.  Too damn young.