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Offline RodrigoAltaf

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Untethered Angel drum cover
« on: December 10, 2018, 05:56:25 PM »
This dude did a cover of the new single using MP's style:

https://youtu.be/NdYJE-jUd1c

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2018, 05:59:59 PM »
Don't know if this is his character or something like that, but other than he's an excellent player, that seems like unnecessary to say the least.
Will share anyway.

Edit: It appears he didn't mean that, just, of course, the comments are a magnet of Portnoylovers
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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2018, 06:16:32 PM »
Cymbals should be higher

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2018, 06:22:50 PM »
I kept waiting for him to spit. :lol
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2018, 06:25:19 PM »
I actually feel bad for liking that as much as I did.
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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2018, 06:27:43 PM »
He succeeds at mimicking MP  :lol

I really liked his cover of BitS :metal

It's interesting that even he has incorporated a lot of MP playing in his style, he respects and admires MM as much as MP, giving a nice rendition to both drummers.

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2018, 01:22:00 AM »
One thing it did succeed at was showing how anything extra in the song actually felt very crowded and distracting...
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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2018, 01:30:58 AM »
Yeah, especially in the unison part, it felt like "look at me" which is opposite to what the other instruments are trying to achieve.  :lol

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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2018, 01:31:27 AM »
Yeah, especially in the unison part, it felt like "look at me" which is opposite to what the other instruments are trying to achieve.  :lol

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2018, 03:04:06 AM »
I think there was more dynamics and a better snare sound than the original one. Nothing against MM's playing but his style is like playing every note at the same volume when it sounds a bit like machine. This guy has really MP style in his playing but it fits well for this song and I think that's the way Mangini should play it live.

And yeah, I haven't ever understood MM's snare sound, he definitely needs more low for his snare.
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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2018, 05:11:09 AM »
The guy did a cool cover. Ok, his playing is a bit too busy and there's a couple of timing issues, but it's fine. His MP impersonation though... Ridiculous. He dressed like MP, the way he looks is similar, he even does the same gestures. Of course, the drum set is also the same. Portnoy is an inspiration for a lot of drummers, but stop mimicking the guy! You're not and will never be him. Find your own way!

I think there was more dynamics and a better snare sound than the original one. Nothing against MM's playing but his style is like playing every note at the same volume when it sounds a bit like machine. This guy has really MP style in his playing but it fits well for this song and I think that's the way Mangini should play it live.

And yeah, I haven't ever understood MM's snare sound, he definitely needs more low for his snare.

Yes, the drums sound more raw and natural in this cover. Thing is, such drum sound would disappear in such a busy mix. It's production and the approach taken in tracking and mixing stages. It has nothing to do with MM's playing, which can be groovy and dynamic when the music requires it. Please people, stop that "Mangini sounds like a machine" nonsense.

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2018, 05:21:17 AM »
Wow the Portnoy mimicry.
Almost as if Portnoy himself covered it.
This makes me think that Mangini did the song justice.

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2018, 06:53:21 AM »
The guy did a cool cover. Ok, his playing is a bit too busy and there's a couple of timing issues, but it's fine. His MP impersonation though... Ridiculous. He dressed like MP, the way he looks is similar, he even does the same gestures. Of course, the drum set is also the same. Portnoy is an inspiration for a lot of drummers, but stop mimicking the guy! You're not and will never be him. Find your own way!

I think there was more dynamics and a better snare sound than the original one. Nothing against MM's playing but his style is like playing every note at the same volume when it sounds a bit like machine. This guy has really MP style in his playing but it fits well for this song and I think that's the way Mangini should play it live.

And yeah, I haven't ever understood MM's snare sound, he definitely needs more low for his snare.

Yes, the drums sound more raw and natural in this cover. Thing is, such drum sound would disappear in such a busy mix. It's production and the approach taken in tracking and mixing stages. It has nothing to do with MM's playing, which can be groovy and dynamic when the music requires it. Please people, stop that "Mangini sounds like a machine" nonsense.

Hey, don't we all start playing by mimicking someone we admire?

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2018, 07:13:42 AM »
For me it's way too much "splashy"...sound chaotic even if he is playing the "right" notes.

That's why I prefer MM to MP..:)

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2018, 07:48:44 AM »
Great cover.  I didn't take it has him mimicking Portnoy at all. 
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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2018, 08:41:27 AM »
Great cover.  I didn't take it has him mimicking Portnoy at all.

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2018, 08:41:52 AM »
Great cover.  I didn't take it has him mimicking Portnoy at all.

It was a great cover, dude can play. But you don't think he was mimicking MP? At the very least, MP was clearly a huge influence on this dude and the result was him approaching the song in a manner consistent with MP's typical style, down to the fills and cymbal work - that was very MP.

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2018, 11:27:04 AM »
Great cover.  I didn't take it has him mimicking Portnoy at all.

It was a great cover, dude can play. But you don't think he was mimicking MP? At the very least, MP was clearly a huge influence on this dude and the result was him approaching the song in a manner consistent with MP's typical style, down to the fills and cymbal work - that was very MP.

He wasn't mimicking MP, man...where's the blue beard and all the tattoos?

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2018, 11:56:29 AM »
For me it's way too much "splashy"...sound chaotic even if he is playing the "right" notes.

That's why I prefer MM to MP..:)

Pretty much this. 

I didn't think the Untethered Angel cover was too bad.  I checked out his Bridges in the Sky cover and that was terrible.  I mean, he did a fine job but his style totally took away from the song. 

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2018, 12:00:08 PM »
I've actually seen better cover videos from this guy, songs from other albums that he "portnoys"  :lol. As some people already pointed out, too much information, completely unnecessary at times, really made me appreciate more MM's playing.

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2018, 12:44:16 PM »
I kept waiting for him to spit. :lol

Me too.  :rollin

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Re: Untethered Angel drum cover
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2018, 12:57:02 PM »
I kept waiting for him to spit. :lol

Me too.  :rollin

Every time someone says this, I picture Maddi (JP's tech) cleaning spit from the back of JP's amps, like on the bonus stuff for the Budokan DVD :rollin
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."