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So PETA wants to change everyday language
« on: December 07, 2018, 11:27:50 AM »
https://twitter.com/peta/status/1070066047414345729

This has been around for a few days and there has already been a response to the obviously extremely negative criticism they've been getting (which I think they removed, can't locate it, if someone can please share).

But with all due honesty, what are your thoughts about this?

Btw, I highly recommend reading answers :lol
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2018, 11:48:54 AM »
Can you summarize what the issue is rather than just providing a link? 
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2018, 11:54:21 AM »
Can you summarize what the issue is rather than just providing a link?

PETA is an animal rights organization, and they posted an image suggesting a change in everyday quotes as to remove "speciesism" from language, with rather ridiculous examples that don't even work the same way (analogies like changing "Be the Guinea Pig" for "Be the Test Tube" don't work the same way, both things don't perform the same function) or suggesting feeding birds with scone, which isn't... suggested.

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2018, 11:55:30 AM »
We know what PETA is.  But we cannot tell just from your post what the specific issue is that they are trying to accomplish that you are calling out.  We can't join in in properly ripping them if you don't tell us why.  :lol
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2018, 11:56:28 AM »
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2018, 11:57:32 AM »
Don't they have bigger fish to fry?

[i confess, I didn't come up with that myself]
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2018, 11:59:26 AM »
 :lol

seems kind of ridiculous if you try to force this but making such a suggestion isn't such a big deal but the feed a fed horse is kind of funny

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2018, 12:01:12 PM »
Don't they have bigger fish to fry?

[i confess, I didn't come up with that myself]

:lol  Nice.
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2018, 12:01:44 PM »
You can't swing a dead cat without hitting someone who wants to be offended.

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2018, 12:05:51 PM »
Fuck this shit.
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2018, 12:08:30 PM »
How many vegans does it take to change a light bulb?

None. Vegans can't change anything.



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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2018, 12:09:32 PM »
Oh man now im reading the twitter and responses  :lol the picture of bacon almost made me spit up my water  :lol

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2018, 12:14:36 PM »
Speaking of bacon, my wife and I went to an ugly sweater holiday party this last weekend where there was a white elephant gift exchange.  As is to be expected, most of the gifts were gag gifts of one sort or another.  But somebody had gifted a 5 pound slab of bacon!  I believe that sucker got stolen immediately and reached the steal limit (house rules were 2 steals per gift, and then that gift is locked down) in record time.
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2018, 12:17:16 PM »
This is awesome  :lol

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2018, 12:18:01 PM »
Speaking of bacon, my wife and I went to an ugly sweater holiday party this last weekend where there was a white elephant gift exchange.  As is to be expected, most of the gifts were gag gifts of one sort or another.  But somebody had gifted a 5 pound slab of bacon!  I believe that sucker got stolen immediately and reached the steal limit (house rules were 2 steals per gift, and then that gift is locked down) in record time.

For a white elephant gift, I once gave a trout that had been in my freezer for a decade. I wrapped it up super fancy and it was the first present chosen.

My sister punched me in the arm. Really hard.

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2018, 12:20:34 PM »
Speaking of bacon, my wife and I went to an ugly sweater holiday party this last weekend where there was a white elephant gift exchange.  As is to be expected, most of the gifts were gag gifts of one sort or another.  But somebody had gifted a 5 pound slab of bacon!  I believe that sucker got stolen immediately and reached the steal limit (house rules were 2 steals per gift, and then that gift is locked down) in record time.

For a white elephant gift, I once gave a trout that had been in my freezer for a decade. I wrapped it up super fancy and it was the first present chosen.

My sister punched me in the arm. Really hard.

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2018, 12:22:24 PM »
Why do you have a decade old frozen trout in the first place   :lol

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2018, 12:29:11 PM »
I approach this the same way as I do "such and such files lawsuit against such and such for ridiculous reason". Anyone can sue anyone for anything, it doesn't mean anything. Actually getting somewhere with things is another matter. Of course this is what PETA wants, but I've seen people react elsewhere to it as if they've got it enacted into law and the SS has been enlisted to go door to door and enforce it.
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2018, 12:31:25 PM »
Why do you have a decade old frozen trout in the first place   :lol

I was going to ask that same question, but I decided it is actually more fun not knowing.
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2018, 12:31:42 PM »
Well, you know. You go catch fish, bring them home, eat a couple and wrap one up in foil and put it in the freezer. Then your psycho ex-wife buys a giant box of corn dogs at Sam's Club and pushes the fish to the back of the freezer. It takes the kids a few years to eat the corn dogs and by then the fish is buried in frost behind the elk roast that your redneck employee got you a few years ago, that you didn't really want, but were too polite to tell him no. Etc. Etc.

Then, you and the new wife are cleaning out the freezer one day and she lifts it up carefully between her thumb and forefinger and asks, "What the christ-on-a-crutch is this?" So I tell her it must be a fish I caught about 10 years ago and she makes like to throw it away. Suddenly, I get this idea about white elephant gifts and stop her.

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2018, 12:32:46 PM »
I hereby retract my previous post.
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2018, 12:33:16 PM »
 :lol I wonder what else has been stocking up in the back of the freezer since that last clean

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2018, 12:33:56 PM »
I approach this the same way as I do "such and such files lawsuit against such and such for ridiculous reason". Anyone can sue anyone for anything, it doesn't mean anything. Actually getting somewhere with things is another matter. Of course this is what PETA wants, but I've seen people react elsewhere to it as if they've got it enacted into law and the SS has been enlisted to go door to door and enforce it.

I think the reason people are pissed is that PETA said that using the original phrases are as bad as saying n***** or f***** (racist and homophobic slurs, respectively)...that is, uhh, going to rub people the wrong way.
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2018, 12:46:38 PM »
You can't swing a dead cat without hitting someone who wants to be offended.

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2018, 01:08:21 PM »


Edit: Also, this, which I'm pretty sure I've posted on this forum at some point before:

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2018, 01:15:24 PM »
If I ever hear someone say "Feed two birds with one scone," I'll punch them (remember, I'm short, so that punch could be a good one).

And if I ever hear someone say "Be the test tube," I'll probably just laugh at them. Hard.

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2018, 01:16:29 PM »
This is actually pretty clever on PETA's part. They've already accomplished primary goal. People are talking about them. As fun as it is to bag on PETA they're not so dumb as to think they're going to change language in this country, and they realize that this would be the subject of ridicule. That was the object of the exercise.

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2018, 01:58:50 PM »
Speaking of bacon, my wife and I went to an ugly sweater holiday party this last weekend where there was a white elephant anonymous inexpensive gift exchange.  As is to be expected, most of the gifts were gag gifts of one sort or another.  But somebody had gifted a 5 pound slab of bacon!  I believe that sucker got stolen immediately and reached the steal limit (house rules were 2 steals per gift, and then that gift is locked down) in record time.

Fixed that for ya before the PETA lawsuit...

Oh, and they also wanted to make the British town of Wool to change it's name, and got it totally wrong.  Surprise.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/25/world/europe/uk-peta-wool-village.html
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2018, 02:29:02 PM »
Ive never eaten meat and only do dairy once in a blue moon, but i no longer identify as a vegan because of things like this.

Also, i think el barto hit the nail on the head.
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2018, 02:56:51 PM »
It's funny to me how there were all these social justice causes who campaigned for different language use and it all got, in the very least, seriously debated, if not outright adopted, and then every time vegans try to piggyback on that success and say "well actually, this aspect of animal life is similar to human oppression, so if you care about that, you'll care about this!", and people laugh at it.

Because it's hilarious. Should I stop saying words that are offensive to groups of people because of their immutable characteristics? Yes, because that's rude and I'm not a rude person. Should I stop saying I'm going to beat a dead horse? I am not beating any horses and there is no horse alive who can understand that!

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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2018, 07:43:37 PM »
Didn't read the article. I'm assuming the chart actually came from Peta then? I didn't see "Fuck a Duck" on there. Is it because it could be good for the duck too? Not that I'd actually know anything about that.
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2018, 11:47:17 PM »
I agree with the idea that changing language can help to change attitudes, but that's a long process that takes more than a little chart... And these are just fucking stupid replacements.
Also, to me "guinea pig" has a negative connotation (i.e. "I feel like I'm just your guinea pig when we make passionate butt love and then you go home to your wife") so changing it doesn't make sense.
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2018, 05:22:29 AM »
I've used guinea pig describing myself. Intent is what really matters.
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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2018, 10:07:19 AM »
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Re: So PETA wants to change everyday language
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2018, 10:09:11 AM »
Yeah, seems like the horse has left the barn.
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