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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #770 on: February 06, 2019, 07:41:27 AM »


Jingle wins the race, and gets to the next round.  The next three, on points, get in.  I sincerely thank the others for their time, patience, and interest in my roulette.  It was a pleasure to listen to your music (I mean that). 

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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #771 on: February 06, 2019, 07:53:52 AM »
Well, if I was to go out, Beyond the Bridge is a really good way to go out. Thanks for hosting this!
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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« Reply #772 on: February 06, 2019, 07:55:07 AM »


Glad that hit the mark.  That guitar solo from Schon is one of my Top 5 all time solos.  Still gives me chills to this day.

Well, if I was to go out, Beyond the Bridge is a really good way to go out. Thanks for hosting this!

Damn right... couple of great choices there, Ruslan.
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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #773 on: February 06, 2019, 07:57:55 AM »
OK, what is the next theme?
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #774 on: February 06, 2019, 08:02:32 AM »
TAC – 16.0   
   Armored Saint – Tainted Past            6.5   2   0   8.5
 
Armored Saint; shock of the round.  I can’t exactly say what I was expecting here, but it wasn’t that!   What a pleasant surprise too; VERY melodic (my thing) and John Bush can SING.   I know this is an odd thing, but with the name “Armored Saint” and his work in Anthrax, I always got a sort of “Phil Anselmo” vibe from him; not the racist stuff, but just “METAL UP YOUR ASS!” kind of vibe.  But that was a really poignant song and some really thoughtful phrases in there.   Add that to the sort of “’70’s” vibe of the music (honestly, I thought “Guess Who” at one point) it was a real winner.   

Glad you liked it. Armored Saint is fantastic. John Bush is an amazing lyricist, and has given me a number of my all time favorite lyrics.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #775 on: February 06, 2019, 08:04:49 AM »
OK, what is the next theme?

You read my mind.  Gonna be a tight finish coming into the home stretch - 0.5 point separations.
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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #776 on: February 06, 2019, 08:06:17 AM »
Seems I blew Puppies' roulette in the second to last round. Can't blow this one.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #777 on: February 06, 2019, 08:08:03 AM »
Thanks for hosting this. It was fun.


Oh and Symbol of Salvation is a great album!

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« Reply #778 on: February 06, 2019, 08:23:54 AM »
Jingle - awesome getting Threshold in. :)  :metal

Keep sending him Threshold songs until he agrees to come to PPUSA.

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« Reply #779 on: February 06, 2019, 08:48:51 AM »
Okay, so...  this might be a hard one.

I got a disk, well, a three-CD set, cheap at Walmart and it had a disk of songs, including these:

https://youtu.be/TKANv_XQRss

https://youtu.be/uGgua6BwQoA

(The first one is worth watching, because it's a video.  Interesting to see him without the hat, but already with his eyes closed while he sings!  The second one is worth listening to, because, well, it really IS a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll.)

And I thought, interesting to see them - two of the biggest rock stars in the world - before they was famous.  And that's the theme:  "Before They Were Famous".  Only criteria:  substantially different band.  For example, don't send something off "When Dream And Day Unite"; yeah, they changed singers (which was a MATERIAL change) but they still play most of those songs and in fact have done the entire album - albeit live - with the new singer.   

I don't have anything specifically in mind for "creativity", but certainly the more thought that goes into the selection, the better chance of there being additional points assigned.  I'm banking on the four remaining having a pretty extensive musical knowledge base.

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« Reply #780 on: February 06, 2019, 09:14:03 AM »
Ooh..that's interesting..
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #781 on: February 06, 2019, 09:18:06 AM »
I guess just sending a band that's not famous doesn't count?

Methinks this is gonna require some deep digging thru the library.
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« Reply #782 on: February 06, 2019, 09:22:09 AM »
Sent.
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« Reply #783 on: February 06, 2019, 09:28:02 AM »
Sent.

WOW!!



I've got one. Just gotta pick the right song.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #784 on: February 06, 2019, 09:29:32 AM »
I'm still trying to decide how broadly I can define "famous".   :lol
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« Reply #785 on: February 06, 2019, 09:35:12 AM »
Sent.

WOW!!



I've got one. Just gotta pick the right song.

I was inspired.   ;D
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« Reply #786 on: February 06, 2019, 09:53:26 AM »
For the record, I received Romdrums' PM BEFORE I hit "Send" on the post.  :) :) :)  :yarr

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« Reply #787 on: February 06, 2019, 10:22:29 AM »
Sented!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #788 on: February 06, 2019, 10:43:13 AM »
Couldn't catch the safety car at the last lap!

Seriously, I'll gladly take the result and final placement, 'cause I feel I couldn't possibly provide the same level of competence offered by the four daredevil drivers ahead of me.

The kind host has been thanked elsewhere, therefore the only thing left to do is to wish the survivors a wonderful race.


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« Reply #789 on: February 06, 2019, 10:48:24 AM »
Thanks for making room for me Stadler, especially after I missed the initial sign up - we have a lot of musical common ground so i wanted to be in.

 I enjoyed it. The themes were a new roulette twist for me and made it harder, but it was fun. I instantly regretted my choices after sending. There are better Giant songs than I sent but I stuck with the theme, and think I deserved the point for creativity as that was the only reason I sent that song 😀

Jingle leading a roulette? Donald Trump president of the USA? I guess anything can happen in this world?

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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #790 on: February 06, 2019, 10:51:11 AM »
To be fair, Tim is technically leading.  I just had the fastest lap.
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« Reply #791 on: February 06, 2019, 10:52:20 AM »
Speaking of before they were famous, here's a young Stadler at Jimmy Carter's SOTU..

would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #792 on: February 06, 2019, 12:22:17 PM »
I've held a grudge against my sister ever since; she was supposed to throw me elbow if I nodded off.   Slacker.

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« Reply #793 on: February 06, 2019, 06:37:29 PM »
Stadler, maybe once everyone is in, you can post all of the pre famous people, and maybe we can try and match them to the participants.

I mean, something to kill the next two weeks before we get results. :P
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #794 on: February 07, 2019, 07:43:26 AM »
Can do.  But it won't be two weeks, I can promise you that.  Four people, eight songs, I can bang that out in 10 days, tops.  :)

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« Reply #795 on: February 07, 2019, 08:09:41 AM »
Can do.  But it won't be two weeks, I can promise you that.  Four people, eight songs, I can bang that out in 10 days, tops.  :)

Not if I keep holding out!

JK... you'll have my songs in a couple hours.  Just need to decide whether to go metal or not.
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« Reply #796 on: February 09, 2019, 12:57:35 PM »
Everyone in?
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #797 on: February 09, 2019, 01:02:16 PM »
No.  I have to resend one song. I'll have it in tomorrow. I've got a birthday party to go to in 1 hour.
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« Reply #798 on: February 09, 2019, 01:03:17 PM »
Saculshmegland.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #799 on: February 09, 2019, 08:58:19 PM »
Kingshmeglate
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« Reply #800 on: February 09, 2019, 09:45:48 PM »
While I wait, I am enjoying perhaps the song of the ROULETTE, not just the round. 

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« Reply #801 on: February 10, 2019, 04:28:27 AM »
While I wait, I am enjoying perhaps the song of the ROULETTE, not just the round.

Normally, I'd be willing to wager next week's pay cheque.  But since it's commission week, I'll just drop a c-note to say it is NOT one of my submissions.
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« Reply #802 on: February 11, 2019, 02:57:58 PM »
Good round; as to be expected in a championship round I got eight solid as a rock submissions.   I struggled – of  my own accord – with how to judge “creativity” in this round, and so I decided, somewhat arbitrarily – to afford two points (one point for each competitor going to the finals) for what I thought were the most outrageous submittal and the most… shall we say “dangerous” submittal.

TAC:  17.0
   Fandango – Thief In The Night      5.5   2   0   7.5
   Elf – Wonderworld         6.5   2   1   9.5

So…I’m a Blackmore fanboy, with no apologies.  I like Deep Purple Marks I, II, III, IIa, IV and IIb.  I like Rainbow Marks I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, and VIII (basically, one per album!).  I even like Blackmore’s Night.   But I’ve been stingy with the “family bands”.  I’ve never heard even one song from Episode Six (Gillan Glover’s band before Purple), I ignore the Purple with Tommy Bolin, the only Graham Bonnet I listen to without Blackmore has Michael Schenker or Yngwie on it.   So it’s not far-fetched that I’ve never heard Fandango, and I’ve only heard one Elf song.  I liked, not loved, the Fandango.  It’s got the 70’s drums (with the double-tracked bongos!) and it’s the worst side of JLT’s lyrics, but it’s also JLT singing (which I love) so there’s that.  Good middle-of-the-road hard rock.   

Elf.  I love Dio in Rainbow, Sabbath, solo, so you’d think I’d know and love this.  But the only Elf I’ve heard was everything I don’t like about the first Rainbow record; very country-ish without the charm of outlaw country.   Corny lyrics that rely more on cliché than any real insight (like he’d later show with “Well if it seems to be real, it's illusion… For every moment of truth, there's confusion in life.  Love can be seen as the answer, but nobody bleeds for the dancer!”).  So I wasn’t all that optimistic.  Then I heard it.  I LOVED this song.  Song of the round, certainly, but perhaps the song of the roulette.   Even you conceded that this isn’t really indicative of the rest of the band’s output, but my god did this strike a chord.   When they come out of the break, and you get that vintage Ronnie: “So sail away, into the sun, because I’m everyone!” … no, it makes NO sense, but who cares?  He sings it like it’s the key to unlocking life eternal!!!  You also got the bonus point, because for all I write about metal and Sabbath and Dio, to find the ONE SONG among the 25 Elf songs that wasn’t a cheesy rock song called “Rocking Chair Rock and Roll Blues” or “Shotgun Boogie” or “Black Swampy Water” or…

Jingle: 15.5
   Poison – Stand         6   2   0   8
   Poison – Theater Of The Soul      5.5   2   0   7.5

Okay, so fuck you for making me think.  This is my roulette, it’s supposed to be fun to watch YOU squirm.  Haha.  Kidding.  Now, with Poison with Richie Kotzen, I respectfully think you’re on the edge of both of the “before he was famous” and “famous” (Kotzen is not the household name or legend that Joel or Dio are) but that didn’t impact your score any.   The songs are solid.  I’m not the hugest Poison fan, in that they were sort of the worst of all the bad things that came out of LA in that time, without many of the good.  They weren’t stellar musicians (Slash – almost an early member of the band, can, in my opinion, play circles around CC Deville, and while Brett is passable, he’s no Axl Rose or Kevin DuBrow or Jack Russell) , they overdid the makeup (only Twisted Sister – not an LA band – came close for ridiculousness) and their songs were a little simple, relying on sexual innuendo without the sheer brass and character of a guy like Roth (before their time) or even Vince Neil, who for all his faults, at least lived the lifestyle for better or worse (he can’t sing, but no one can call Vince Neil a poser).   They did have a knack for hitting the right note.  By any standard, “Every Rose…” is a great tune, and to me, it’s a tribute that basically any first year guitar player can cover it.   You sent me the best parts of Poison, amped up with some stellar musical cred.   I really REALLY liked “Stand” in that it should have been a bag of clichés but it wasn’t.   It had some substance to it (and yes, I liked the lyrics; thanks for the compliment), showcased Kotzen’s tasteful playing, and played right into the strengths of Brett’s voice (it doesn’t seem it, but I’m a fan of Brett Michaels the man, if not all of his music).  The second song wasn’t as strong, but it’s still pretty good; this is meat and potatoes rock, and that’s not a bad thing.  Most of my collection is basically meat and potatoes rock, and as long as you don’t burn the steak or leave lumps in the potatoes, you’re good.
   

Romdrums:  15.5
   Exotic Birds – Dancing On The Airwaves   5.5   2   0   7.5
   How We Live – Dry Land          6   2   0   8

I don’t mind the genre, I don’t mind the 80’s electronic pop vibe of Exotic Birds, and it’s a treat to hear a different side to Trent Reznor, who I admire as a musician, but whose music doesn’t do a ton for me.  It just wasn’t a song that moved me much.  I generally do like this kind of music – I can remember when MTV first started, and played this stuff on the regular – but I think it’s a bit lacking.  I didn’t know this when I scored it, but little of it is really Trent’s muse, so I don’t feel too bad about it not clicking.  By all accounts he played keys and programmed, but didn’t sing lead or write the song (though he did appear with his Exotic Birds bandmates as the band in “Light Of Day” with Michael J. Fox). 
Hmm.  “Dry Land”.    I love Marillion, and even though I’m a Fish guy at heart, the Hogarth years have provided a lot of entertainment, and the four times or so that I’ve seen them have all been with H.  I LOVE Season’s End; one of Marillion’s best, but I feel like Holidays In Eden was a real step back and to this day one of my least favorite albums.  I will give you this:  the song was fully formed, and Marillion didn’t really f*** with it much when they rerecorded it, but that to me just highlighted the problems with that record.   In fact, I think I prefer this version to the Marillion one, simply because I know what Marillion can do, and they didn’t!  It’s a good song, though, and I like Hogarth as a singer, so it gets a decent score.

Kingshmegland:  16.5
   Attila – Wonder Woman         6   2   0   8
   The First Edition – Tell It All Brother      5.5   2   1   8.5

King, if nothing else, no one could ever accuse you of playing it safe, or taking the easy way out.   Two ballsy picks if you ask me.  I’m a huge – HUGE – Billy Joel fan, and have been since my grandma bought me “The Stranger” on vinyl back in the day. It’s still one of my favorite albums ever.  I was just listening to “An Innocent Man” last night (that title track; GTFO).  I’ve actually heard the one Attila song that is on the Billy Joel box set, and it’s… well, Billy keeps calling it “heavy metal” and it’s not, not by any standard I can name.  Yeah, it’s loud, and it sounds a shade like Robert Plant jamming with Deep Purple, but I wouldn’t call it “heavy metal”.  But I liked it; it’s stupid (“wonder woman, you got me in a spin; Jesus Christ, I can’t believe the shape I’m in!”) but I dig that 70’s Hammond, drums-by-a-crazy-man, and “hey I just bought a wah-wah pedal!” guitar sound (it’s a keyboard), and this confirms what I’ve long suspected: that Billy Joel can sing ANYTHING and is a far better singer than he gets credit for.

And to the second song.  WTF.  I’m not turned off to the Kenny Rogers (I too grew up with a mom who listened to him) and I think he’s an amazing singer (even if some of his material is safe; I hate that song “Islands In The Stream”) but you’ve got huevos grande for sending that video.  The song is pretty good for what it was – a dated quasi-hippy anthem - but the best part is the duet with Dino (“Whatever turns you in, Ken.”) at the end.   And for the record, Dean at LEAST made out with Thelma back stage. She was digging him big time.   I’m giving you a bonus point for not only pulling that out of left field, but in fact, pulling it out of the parking lot, beyond the left field fence.  😊

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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #803 on: February 11, 2019, 03:12:24 PM »
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I remember reading th as t Kenny didn't start doing country music so I was as always fascinated with that.  He looks so damn young.  Lol
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Re: Stadler's Roulette, 2.0: Singles A's and B's OFFICIAL RESULTS RACE #5!!!
« Reply #804 on: February 11, 2019, 03:20:57 PM »
I thought of Billy Joel too, knowing Stadler is a fan. Actually listened to a couple of tunes from The Hassles. :lol
But Joel wasn't the main vocalist.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol