Author Topic: DoT Tour Setlist Predictions (Read 6655 times)

jjfumbly · « **on:** November 17, 2018, 06:30:20 AM »

Let's make some predictions, shall we?

What songs from the back catalog will make it onto the setlist? There will obviously be a decent amount from the new release, but I have a feeling we will be treated to some content from the later MP albums (2002-2009).
I read somewhere on the facebook page that the Scenes album will be played in its entirety. I would assume that they'd create a first setlist with a mix of new and old songs, followed by an intermission and then SFAM. There still needs to be an encore.
Since they're playing that album in its entirety, it would stand to reason that they would include the voice acting to add to the experience. I wonder if they would let Finally Free end with Nicholas dying and the static, then they take a break while the static remains before reemerging to bang out The Glass Prison as the encore.

That would be some sonic ecstasy.

SeRoX · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2018, 06:32:25 AM »

Well, I don't know if it is possible or not but my feelings say "The Glass Prison" will be an opener.

KevShmev · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2018, 06:47:25 AM »

Aside from Scenes, I won't be surprised to see only a few older songs. They always play a lot of whatever new album they are touring on, so you gotta figure new songs will take up the bulk of the first set (assuming Scenes is the second set), so I could see only 2-3 older songs in the first set and then probably whatever the encore is.

devieira73 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2018, 07:20:48 AM »

First set: 40 min of DOT + Surrender to Reason + 30 min of others Pre-Mangini. I would love to see Glass Prision, but I guess it's too long for this particular structure of the show and maybe, since they will play a lot of new songs and songs never played by Mangini, they will choose the remaining songs from the last I&W tour.
Second set: Scenes, maybe doing Finally Free as an encore.

Mladen · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2018, 07:27:35 AM »

1. New song
2. This dying soul
3. Misunderstood
4. New song
5. New song
6. Surrender to reason
7. Bridges in the sky
8. New song
9. Trial of tears
----
11. Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a memory
----
Encore: Octavarium

TAC · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2018, 07:39:18 AM »

Remember the 5 songs Bosk presented to them are:

Quote from: bosk1 on October 03, 2018, 11:25:25 AM

1. Octavarium
2. The Glass Prison
3. Surrender To Reason / Blind Faith (tie)
4. In the Name of God
5. The Killing Hand

I feel like JP takes this seriously.

I think we'll get all of these if there are two full legs, the 2nd not playing SFAM.

If the show starts at 8:00, I figure they have a 3 hour window. So from 180 minutes..

Scenes (80min)
Intermission (15 minutes)

That leaves 85 minutes for the first set plus encore.

Set 1 for the AFTR tour was 76 min.
Set 1 for the I&W&B tour was 60 min.

If they play 8V for the encore, that really only leaves an 60 min for the first set.

I'd be shocked if both 8V and The Glass Prison made it into the set this time around. If the did ITNOG for the encore, that'd give an extra 10 minutes to the first set.

I do expect Surrender To Reason to be played.

DTA · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2018, 07:44:41 AM »

Quote from: devieira73 on November 17, 2018, 07:20:48 AM

First set: 40 min of DOT + Surrender to Reason + 30 min of others Pre-Mangini. I would love to see Glass Prision, but I guess it's too long for this particular structure of the show and maybe, since they will play a lot of new songs and songs never played by Mangini, they will choose the remaining songs from the last I&W tour.
Second set: Scenes, maybe doing Finally Free as an encore.

This seems most likely, though I think they will do TGP. I'm guessing:

New Song
New Song
Surrender To Reason
New Song
The Killing Hand
New Song
In The Name Of God
---------
SFAM
---------
The Glass Prison

Majesti · « **Reply #7 on:** November 17, 2018, 09:08:56 AM »

Quote from: Mladen on November 17, 2018, 07:27:35 AM

1. New song
2. This dying soul
3. Misunderstood
4. New song
5. New song
6. Surrender to reason
7. Bridges in the sky
8. New song
9. Trial of tears
----
11. Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a memory
----
Encore: Octavarium

Wouldn’t this be killer!

Lonk · « **Reply #8 on:** November 17, 2018, 09:18:15 AM »

It’s Surrender to Reason confirmed to be on the set list or is it just a guess?

The way this show is set up I’m assuming we will get whatever first single to be the opener.

1) New Song
2) post-portnoy heavy song
3) 2001-2009 song
4) new song
5) new song
6) pre-SFAM song
7) new song
-——————————
8) Scenes from a Memory
———————————
9) Encore (maybe 8V or Glass Prison)

fadetoblackdude7 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2018, 09:55:13 AM »

This is a bit tricky, given we don't know the lengths of the new songs. If they're shorter (6-7 min), they will probably be able to play more than 4 or 5. Anyway, here goes:

New Song (first single?)
The Killing Hand
Surrender To Reason
New Song
New Song
New Song
New Song
The Glass Prison

SFAM

Encore: Octavarium/New Epic

TAC · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2018, 10:08:12 AM »

Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on November 17, 2018, 09:55:13 AM

This is a bit tricky, given we don't know the lengths of the new songs. If they're shorter (6-7 min), they will probably be able to play more than 4 or 5. Anyway, here goes:

New Song (first single?)
The Killing Hand
Surrender To Reason
New Song
New Song
New Song
New Song
The Glass Prison

SFAM

Encore: Octavarium/New Epic

Not the biggest TGP fan, but I think it'd ,make a cool Set 1 closer.

Unless they knock it out early, like the did with TSF.

fadetoblackdude7 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 17, 2018, 10:14:27 AM »

Quote from: TAC on November 17, 2018, 10:08:12 AM

Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on November 17, 2018, 09:55:13 AM
This is a bit tricky, given we don't know the lengths of the new songs. If they're shorter (6-7 min), they will probably be able to play more than 4 or 5. Anyway, here goes:

New Song (first single?)
The Killing Hand
Surrender To Reason
New Song
New Song
New Song
New Song
The Glass Prison

SFAM

Encore: Octavarium/New Epic

Not the biggest TGP fan, but I think it'd ,make a cool Set 1 closer.

Unless they knock it out early, like the did with TSF.

I thought of that too, but that would be too formulaic. If it did end the first set or the show altogether, they'd have to give it a more epic ending, since the studio version ends so abrupt and sudden. Those who have seen it live, do they end it like the studio version?

Tick · « **Reply #12 on:** November 17, 2018, 10:34:11 AM »

Quote from: Mladen on November 17, 2018, 07:27:35 AM

1. New song
2. This dying soul
3. Misunderstood
4. New song
5. New song
6. Surrender to reason
7. Bridges in the sky
8. New song
9. Trial of tears
----
11. Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a memory
----
Encore: Octavarium

Best set list, EVER!

gzarruk · « **Reply #13 on:** November 17, 2018, 10:40:22 AM »

First off all, I hope they don't play any IAW songs, AIA or BAI, they've been played A LOT in the last few tours. TSCO also falls here, but since they're playing SFAM in full, it's definitely going to be in the set.

I expect them to include STR, since it's the only song from DT12 they haven't played yet and it's a fan favorite from that record.

Quote from: bosk1 on October 03, 2018, 11:25:25 AM

1. Octavarium
2. The Glass Prison
3. Surrender To Reason / Blind Faith (tie)
4. In the Name of God
5. The Killing Hand

From the list Bosk made, the obvious choice would be playing Octavarium as an encore, but after 2 long sets don't know if they'd want to play a 24 min song, even though the first frew minutes are just Jordan messing around

Btw, if they play STR, which we all think they will, JP's going to need a 12 string guitar, guess which other song uses 12 string guitar? OVM, so it's still possible they might do it.

I also expect TKH to appear, since it's also WDADU's 30th year and that song appeared on the list.

Also, according to that Rolling Stone interview, the album will probaly be mostly shorter songs, so they can play more from DOT without a problem.

Dave_Manchester · « **Reply #14 on:** November 17, 2018, 01:22:43 PM »

Not really a 'prediction', but certainly a hope:

5 new songs (40 minutes?)
1 rarity (Speak To Me or Eve would be my pick)
2 oldies (Misunderstood and Stream of Consciousness my picks)

Scenes (80 minutes)

Octavarium (encore - 25 minutes)

That's about the length of an Evening With show. I'd be very happy with The Glass Prison as an encore too, but playing that after all of Scenes From A Memory night after night would perhaps be exhausting for Mangini and Petrucci in particular. Octavarium seems less taxing.

I've also tried to consider James' situation. A tour full of 3 hour gigs can be draining on a vocalist, so he'll need plenty of spaces to relax in that little 'shed' he has on stage. That's why I've gone for Stream of Consciousness instead of In The Name of God.

But honestly, Scenes is more than enough for me to move heaven and earth to see this show if and when it comes to Europe. If they throw in Octavarium as an encore then I'll stalk them all over the globe.

Polarbear · « **Reply #15 on:** November 17, 2018, 01:30:47 PM »

1. Opening tape/ New Song
2. New Song
3. The Great Debate
4. Voices
5. New Millennium
6. New Song
7. Honor Thy Father
8. This is The Life

- Intermission -
9. SFAM extravaganza
- Intermission -

Encore:
10. Solitary Shell
11. Metropolis PT.1/Pull Me Under

Octavarium or A Change of Seasons would be cool, but there is more than enough epic on SFAM! This would be my ideal show.

Dave_Manchester · « **Reply #16 on:** November 17, 2018, 01:34:09 PM »

^^ I love The Great Debate but I think I remember JP saying it wasn't getting much of a reaction on the ADTOE tour so they dropped it. Still, that doesn't necessarily mean they won't dust it off again. If they do I'll be happy (really anything from disc one of Six Degrees would be very welcome).

Mladen · « **Reply #17 on:** November 17, 2018, 01:37:57 PM »

With JP being very vocal about not considering The Great debate to be good live song, and their catalog being pretty enormous at this point, I would be very surprised to see that song live ever again.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #18 on:** November 17, 2018, 02:03:39 PM »

Quote from: Mladen on November 17, 2018, 01:37:57 PM

With JP being very vocal about not considering The Great debate to be good live song, and their catalog being pretty enormous at this point, I would be very surprised to see that song live ever again.

Maybe them doing the song in album tempo has to do with the crowd reaction. It would probably benefit a bit more being played faster, one song I feel suffers from the album tempo click.

edit: I'd do this, but I need the track times of the D/T songs first before I make a song selection.

Although it'd be neat to see both The Glass Prison and Octavarium as encores.

gzarruk · « **Reply #19 on:** November 17, 2018, 07:14:40 PM »

I said this in other thread, but I'd love to see set 1 to be mostly, if not all, MM era songs. With set 2 and most likely the encore being MP era songs.

TheCountOfNYC · « **Reply #20 on:** November 17, 2018, 07:23:43 PM »

The Killing Hand
Blind Faith
Octavarium
Bridges in the Sky
Surrender to Reason

DragonAttack · « **Reply #21 on:** November 17, 2018, 11:11:01 PM »

an old one from Steven Wright:

I went down to the 24-hour grocery store. When I got there, the guy was locking the front door.
I said, 'Hey, the sign says you’re open 24 hours.'
And he says, 'Yeah...., but not in a row.'

So, the setlist opens with 'Regression/Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu', then 'In The Presence of Enemies Pt 1', two from DOT, 'Through My Words', 'Fatal Tragedy', 'Misunderstood', 'Beyond This Life', Through Her Eyes' (extended).....end of set one.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm 99% kidding.....but it certainly would be different.

Mladen · « **Reply #22 on:** November 18, 2018, 05:08:20 AM »

I decided to edit the first set list I put together and take the results of Bosk's survey into account. I also replaced a track or two because of the length of the first set.

1. New song
2. The Glass prison
3. The Killing hand
4. New song
5. New song
6. Surrender to reason
7. New song
8. Beneath the surface
9. In the name of God
----
11. Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a memory
----
Encore: Octavarium

gzarruk · « **Reply #23 on:** November 18, 2018, 05:17:39 AM »

If the new album has mostly short songs, I’d say we’ll get 5-6 of them for the tour.

MirrorMask · « **Reply #24 on:** November 18, 2018, 05:46:54 AM »

Quote from: Vmadera00 on November 17, 2018, 09:18:15 AM

It’s Surrender to Reason confirmed to be on the set list or is it just a guess?

They always said they wanted to play the songs off DT12 that they didn't play during the Along for the Ride tour.
They had a history tour and they played Behind the Veil.
They played only The Astonishing so that leaves no room for anything else obviously.
They played the Images and Words set and they performed The Bigger Picture.

It's not confirmed they will play it, but I think it's a quite safe bet.

TAC · « **Reply #25 on:** November 18, 2018, 06:22:41 AM »

Quote from: MirrorMask on November 18, 2018, 05:46:54 AM

Quote from: Vmadera00 on November 17, 2018, 09:18:15 AM
It’s Surrender to Reason confirmed to be on the set list or is it just a guess?

They always said they wanted to play the songs off DT12 that they didn't play during the Along for the Ride tour.
They had a history tour and they played Behind the Veil.
They played only The Astonishing so that leaves no room for anything else obviously.
They played the Images and Words set and they performed The Bigger Picture.

It's not confirmed they will play it, but I think it's a quite safe bet.

Plus it was on the list Bosk gave to JP.

bill1971 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 18, 2018, 08:14:12 AM »

1. DT Song
2. DT Song
3. DT Song
4. DT Song
5. DT Song
6. DT SONG!

Intermission
1. SFAM
Since I love the idea posted above to end with static..

Encore...static...
1. The Glass Prison
2. Sons of Apollo cover

SwedishGoose · « **Reply #27 on:** November 18, 2018, 08:29:21 AM »

Quote from: bill1971 on November 18, 2018, 08:14:12 AM

1. DT Song
2. DT Song
3. DT Song
4. DT Song
5. DT Song
6. DT SONG!

Intermission
1. SFAM
Since I love the idea posted above to end with static..

Encore...static...
1. The Glass Prison
2. Sons of Apollo cover

Ha ha ha..... a S.O.A cover.... now that would be something

devieira73 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 18, 2018, 08:47:21 AM »

Quote from: bill1971 on November 18, 2018, 08:14:12 AM

Intermission
1. SFAM
Since I love the idea posted above to end with static..

Encore...static...
1. The Glass Prison

This transition and have TGP as encore would be extremely cool!

erwinrafael · « **Reply #29 on:** November 18, 2018, 09:41:09 AM »

First set: Full DoT (just around an hour)

Second set: Full SFAM

Encore: TGP + STR

dream75 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 18, 2018, 11:47:05 AM »

I don't know what setlist will be, but 2019 is the thirtieth anniversary of WDADU, the twenty-fifth of AWAKE and the tenth of BCSL ...

gzarruk · « **Reply #31 on:** November 18, 2018, 12:01:39 PM »

Quote from: erwinrafael on November 18, 2018, 09:41:09 AM

First set: Full DoT (just around an hour)

Second set: Full SFAM

Encore: TGP + STR

I’d LOVE to see this setlist be true.

SwedishGoose · « **Reply #32 on:** November 18, 2018, 12:07:33 PM »

Quote from: gzarruk on November 18, 2018, 12:01:39 PM

Quote from: erwinrafael on November 18, 2018, 09:41:09 AM
First set: Full DoT (just around an hour)

Second set: Full SFAM

Encore: TGP + STR

I’d LOVE to see this setlist be true.

Me too

gzarruk · « **Reply #33 on:** November 18, 2018, 12:08:22 PM »

I can only imagine how amazing it’d be to finish the show with STR

lucasembarbosa · « **Reply #34 on:** November 18, 2018, 02:43:23 PM »

Quote from: SwedishGoose on November 18, 2018, 12:07:33 PM

Quote from: gzarruk on November 18, 2018, 12:01:39 PM
Quote from: erwinrafael on November 18, 2018, 09:41:09 AM
First set: Full DoT (just around an hour)

Second set: Full SFAM

Encore: TGP + STR

I’d LOVE to see this setlist be true.

Me too

+1

Would be a nice balance between MP era + MM era

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