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Back from being gone! After a year of not having had the annual Haken Survivor on DTF (we had the league ran by DoC last time around, which meant I didn't do the Haken Survivor for a change, because they would be so close together..), here it is yet again! Coinciding with Haken's new studio release, which at the time of writing this I still haven't heard, because my pre-order hasn't arrived yet, we're set out to rank all the band's songs once more.

I'm going to stick to the traditional Survivor method, in the sense that I'm not going to do an album ranking to decide how many songs off each album go to the Finals before starting with the main thing, but there will be one twist. We're doing the following albums:

- Aquarius (2010)
- Visions (2011)
- The Mountain (2013)
- Restoration (EP, 2014)
- Affinity (2016)
- Vector (2018)
- Bonus Round: Enter the Fifth Dimension (Demo 2007/2008)

From each album, the top 2 will automatically go to the Finals, while the song placed third goes to a Consolation round. From Restoration, the winner goes to the Finals, while the song in second place goes to Consolation. All the songs placed fourth on the albums will join a Play-Off, of which the winner will join Consolation. This pool of songs sends three more songs to the Finals as well. See the next post to see this in 'detail'.

The whole 'Demo Survivor' will run simultaneously with the Play-Offs/Consolation rounds and doesn't influence the rest of the Survivor in any way.

I'm going to start this one in the coming week and I'm going to run one round a day. I might skip over some weekend days, because I'm usually busier then, but I'll try to keep this running quickly. If I can keep the pace, this will be over before the end of the year.


Here's all the main threads for the previous 5 editions I ran. It's quite interesting to see how the collective DTF perception of the Haken songs has changed over the years. Fun times were had. Let's see what this year brings, right?

2016 Survivor Main Thread

2015 Survivor Main Thread

2014 Survivor Main Thread

2013 Survivor Main Thread

2012 Survivor Main Thread



So, who's in?
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2018, 01:27:18 PM »
--- RESERVED FOR RESULTS ---

Aquarius Results:

1. Celestial Elixir
2. Aquarium

3. Streams
4. Sun
5. Drowning in the Flood
6. The Point of no Return
7. Eternal Rain

---

Visions Results

1. Visions
2. Deathless 

3. Shapeshifter
4. Insomnia
5. Nocturnal Conspiracy
6. Portals
7. Premonition
8. The Mind's Eye

---

The Mountain Results:

1. Falling Back to Earth
2. Atlas Stone

3. Pareidolia
4. Cockroach King
5. In Memoriam
6. Because It's There
7. Somebody
8. As Death Embraces
9. The Path

---

Restoration (EP) Results:

1. Crystallised
2. Earthlings
3. Darkest Light

---

Affinity Results:

1. 1985
2. The Architect

3. The Endless Knot
4. Earthrise
5. Lapse
6. Bound by Gravity
7. Initiate
8. Red Giant
9. affinity.exe

---

Vector Results:

1. Puzzle Box
2. Veil

3. Host
4. A Cell Divides
5. The Good Doctor
6. Nil By Mouth
7. Clear
 
---

Enter the Fifth Dimension (Demo 2007/2008) Results:

1. Blind
2. Snow
3. Black Seed
     Souls
5. Manifolds
6. Sleeping Thoughts Wake

---

Play-Offs:
Sun
Insomnia
Cockroach King
Earthrise
A Cell Divides

Play-Off Results:

1. Earthrise
2. Insomnia
3. Cockroach King
4. A Cell Divides
5. Sun

---

Consolations:
Streams
Shapeshifter
Pareidolia
Earthlings
The Endless Knot
Host
Earthrise

Consolations Results:

1. Pareidolia
2. The Endless Knot
3. Earthrise

4. Earthlings
5. Streams
6. Shapeshifter
7. Host

---

The Finals:

Celestial Elixir
Aquarium
Visions
Deathless
Falling Back to Earth
Atlas Stone
Crystallised
1985
The Architect
Puzzle Box
Veil
Pareidolia
The Endless Knot
Earthrise

The Finals - Results:

1. Celestial Elixir
2. Falling Back to Earth
3. 1985
4. Pareidolia
5. The Architect
6. Puzzle Box
7. Crystallised
8. Veil
9. Visions
10. Atlas Stone
11. The Endless Knot
12. Aquarium
13. Deathless
14. Earthrise
« Last Edit: February 15, 2019, 03:24:51 PM by Elite »
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2018, 01:36:35 PM »
Yes! I'm in!

Some time off the weekends sounds just fine for me, I'm not on DTF for most of the weekends, so that's great. This also gives me an excuse to listen to the whole Haken discography again, which is also great.

However, I basically listen to Aquarius at least once a month. I'm ready for this one. :metal
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2018, 01:41:14 PM »
I'm in.  Aquarius, Restoration, and Enter the Fifth Dimension I dont have/haven't listened to enough to vote so I'll sit those and follow, but definitely in on the rest of the albums.

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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2018, 01:57:43 PM »
Predictions contest when  :corn
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2018, 02:33:54 PM »
I'm in

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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2018, 02:49:23 PM »
Count me in Bro! I was not attending in Haken survivors before because I was not so familiar with their music, but now I could say that I'm totally prepared!

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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2018, 03:04:18 PM »
Well I have all five main albums now, and will certainly pick up Restoration at some point in the coming months I reckon, so I'm in a good place to take part, if I fancy it.

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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2018, 03:18:28 PM »
Restoration is just three songs, so you could sit that one out, while you join the rest :)
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2018, 08:09:03 PM »
Very cool.  I'm totally in and I only hope I can keep up.

I acquired the demos quite awhile ago (probably about 6-8 months before Restoration came out) so I'm very familiar with those recordings as well.   But I should give them another spin, as it's been awhile.

Really looking forward to this one. 
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2018, 01:11:52 AM »
Sure, I need a new survivor to follow.


It's gonna be first impressions for me. I'm excited. :corn :metal
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2018, 03:51:21 AM »
Let's do this!

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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2018, 06:42:56 AM »
Apart from forgetfulness, the only thing that would stop me from participating is the crushing negativity that comes naturally with the survivor format. It takes its toll after a while.

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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2018, 11:38:24 AM »
Then there’s no good way to do this, is there? In the five times I’ve ran this survivor, never have I encountered any ‘crushing negativity’. I know the Survivor format isn’t flawless, but the point is not to get a completely accurate ranking of Haken’s music. It’s supposed to be fun and not to be taken too seriously. I know I don’t.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2018, 12:01:59 PM »
I'm ready to crush Cockroach King with all of my mighty negativity. :biggrin:
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2018, 12:06:24 PM »
Good.
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2018, 01:00:45 PM »
I sympathize tbh

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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2018, 01:31:08 PM »
Apart from forgetfulness, the only thing that would stop me from participating is the crushing negativity that comes naturally with the survivor format. It takes its toll after a while.
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2018, 02:02:31 PM »
Apart from forgetfulness, the only thing that would stop me from participating is the crushing negativity that comes naturally with the survivor format. It takes its toll after a while.

Precisely why I came up with the league format. Just seems more positive than voting off your least favorite round after round.

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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2018, 05:10:38 PM »
I've been absent from the P/S forum for awhile, but this might bring me back in. I've been listening to a lot of Haken lately and this would give me an excuse to filter down my favorites from each release!

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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2018, 05:45:29 AM »
This starts in about 9 hours, ok? :)
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2018, 05:47:41 AM »
Let's get it on :zydar:
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2018, 06:52:25 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2018, 08:45:59 AM »
Sure thing, I'm ready!

What I'm not ready for is to see such a great song as Sun being eliminated in the first two rounds. :lol
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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2018, 05:13:26 AM »
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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2018, 07:06:09 AM »
Wow, we'll have Play-Offs here. Looking forward to participating.  :tup

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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2018, 07:56:41 AM »
I added the Play-Offs specifically to give good songs from albums with too many good songs a chance to reach the Finals as well. Glad to see that mechanic is appreciated.
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2018, 11:18:32 AM »
I am so joining in on this. :hat
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2018, 03:30:45 PM »
I am so joining in on this. :hat

Man, glad to see you there again! Where were you? Is everything alright? I honestly thought you died or suffered a terminal disease or, well, you get it. No offense. When someone disappears here, I always think the worst.
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2018, 09:19:00 PM »
i'm still wondering what happened to soupy tbh

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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2018, 01:48:08 AM »
I am so joining in on this. :hat

Man, glad to see you there again! Where were you? Is everything alright? I honestly thought you died or suffered a terminal disease or, well, you get it. No offense. When someone disappears here, I always think the worst.

I was super stressed out. Exams and my grandfather was hospitalised, and my girlfriend broke up with me. Just a lot of shot that I had to deal with, and I didn't really have it in me to also be on DTF.

But I'm in a much better place now. Exams worked out (though there will be new ones coming up, as always), my grandfather is feeling good again, I have a new job that I'm very happy with, and also met someone else that I very much like spending time with.

So yeah! I decided now was the best time to drop back in on you guys, see what you've been up to. :P

How have you been, man?
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Re: The HAKEN Survivor 2018 - v. Aquasions Mount Finitor - Main Thread
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2018, 03:21:05 AM »
and you're here too! :O (see post in Katt's thread :lol)

Nice that you're back man! Also glad to hear that everything's settled down and that you're doing okay now. On DTF stuff is.. like usual. With more roulette shenanigans than ever before I'd say.


Also, this Haken survivor ... I said I wouldn't do weekend days, which is why this one will start TOMORROW EVENING (my time). I know that's a Sunday, but it will run through Monday as well. If I'd start it right now, I couldn't update is as frequently, so I want it to begin in the evening. That would mean I can get a new round started every time a previous round has ended.
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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2018, 03:32:37 AM »
Sounds good. :tup

Are we doing Enter the Fifth Dimension as well?
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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2018, 01:04:42 PM »
I am so joining in on this. :hat

Man, glad to see you there again! Where were you? Is everything alright? I honestly thought you died or suffered a terminal disease or, well, you get it. No offense. When someone disappears here, I always think the worst.

I was super stressed out. Exams and my grandfather was hospitalised, and my girlfriend broke up with me. Just a lot of shot that I had to deal with, and I didn't really have it in me to also be on DTF.

But I'm in a much better place now. Exams worked out (though there will be new ones coming up, as always), my grandfather is feeling good again, I have a new job that I'm very happy with, and also met someone else that I very much like spending time with.

So yeah! I decided now was the best time to drop back in on you guys, see what you've been up to. :P

How have you been, man?

Good to see everything worked out for you!

Since you asked, well, I'm alright, pretty much same old here. My grandfather actually passed away while you were away from DTF, but hey, that's life for you.

Can't wait for the survivor to begin!
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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2018, 06:09:36 PM »
I’m in as well. Finally have all of their albums plus Restoration so I feel comfortable enough to judge their discography.
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