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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #490 on: October 10, 2018, 09:40:02 AM »
I just listened to that Kiske song, and I must say, that was the most un-TAClike music I've ever heard. If I heard it blind and didn't know who was singing I never would have guessed it was a submission by Tim. Where's the heft? Where's the balls? Where's the lack of :TAC:?

It's my second favorite song of all time after learning To live. On some days, it IS my favorite.


Rite?  But heh... it's Kiske.  Anything he lends his voice to is akin an aural hummer for TAC.

would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #491 on: October 10, 2018, 09:41:47 AM »

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #492 on: October 10, 2018, 09:42:51 AM »
BTW... totally fair assessment of that Evership track. 

But I still think you're daft.   :lol
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #493 on: October 10, 2018, 09:44:23 AM »
Totally fair assessment of me!

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #494 on: October 10, 2018, 09:54:34 AM »
I wish the word daft would be used more often here in the US.  Then again, maybe it sounds better with an English accent.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #495 on: October 10, 2018, 09:58:31 AM »
I wish the word daft would be used more often here in the US.  Then again, maybe it sounds better with an English accent.
Tally ho, old bean. :ariich:

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #496 on: October 10, 2018, 10:08:28 AM »
 :lol

That's ace ariich.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #497 on: October 10, 2018, 10:44:40 AM »
Better than I expected, honestly. :lol Can't complain about Beyond the Bridge being in Top 4 too, that was the song I thought of sending. Good stuff.
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #498 on: October 10, 2018, 10:45:48 AM »
Curious... is each grouping of four intended to be 2 x younglings; 2 x cool old fucks?  Or was it just coincidence it happened that way this round?
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #499 on: October 10, 2018, 10:50:44 AM »
Curious... is each grouping of four intended to be 2 x younglings; 2 x cool old fucks?  Or was it just coincidence it happened that way this round?

Sounds like a porn.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #500 on: October 10, 2018, 11:00:08 AM »
2 youngs 1 fuck

Sent a song from one of the best progressive metal debut albums ever.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #501 on: October 10, 2018, 11:00:58 AM »
Beyond the Bridge is banned :neverusethis:

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #502 on: October 10, 2018, 11:01:50 AM »
I was wondering if this comment will pop up in the next five minutes, but you posted it in less then a minute after my post, I'm impressed :lol
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #503 on: October 10, 2018, 11:11:06 AM »
Curious... is each grouping of four intended to be 2 x younglings; 2 x cool old fucks?  Or was it just coincidence it happened that way this round?

Honestly, I didn't realise that until now.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #504 on: October 10, 2018, 11:36:07 AM »
2 youngs 1 fuck

Sent a song from one of the best progressive metal debut albums ever.

More Flaming Row from you?
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #505 on: October 10, 2018, 11:40:57 AM »
2 youngs 1 fuck

Sent a song from one of the best progressive metal debut albums ever.

More Flaming Row from you?

Nope. This non-existent banned list gives me options that are even better than Elinoire.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #506 on: October 10, 2018, 11:49:44 AM »
You ready?

Round One Results, 4 of 4:


kingshmegland - King Kongshmegland

Barock Project – Happy to See You:

Bus Impression: One song made me proud of where I'm from
Timestamp Snippet: 1:38 - 2:02: I guess that's the closer you can fly to Jethro Tull without burning your wings.

This goes to show how desperately out of the loop I stand: these guys started about thirty car minutes from where I have my morning coffee most of the times. Let's cut to the chase: the main theme is almost unbearable as far as grace and beauty are concerned. It's like Heavy Horses on steroids, and the tastiest part is the courage to let the melody end just a second before you get used to it. That's a way to describe musical elegance I suppose.

I'm not crazy for the electronic drums intervals (and that's why this isn't rated slightly higher), and after three listens I considered them a disruptive force. Then I found their redeeming quality: without those forced sterile time-outs I couldn't fully appreciate the way that amazing repeated theme subtly changes every time, by virtue of surprisingly mature strokes of arrangement. It's a secret story inside a gorgeous story, with something superflous in between.

Vote: 8.6 – A product of mediterranean sensibility impregnating classy folk progginess, just like yours truly genetically speaking.


lonestar - Team Fuck Canada

Beyond the Bridge – The Difference Is Human:

Bus Impression: One song made me clap at deeply thought execution.
Timestamp Snippet: 1:42 - 2:09: The most unassuming segment, yet I'm hopelessly addicted to it.

When you deeply think a concept and its musical actualisation through with love and talent, you may find yourself with a marvellous sequence of themes and powerful moments. Case in point, the whole introductive segment alone simply shatters my scale for rational ranking. Alas, when you deeply think a concept and its musical actualisation through a little too much, you may find yourself complicating things and mildly compromising a sure shot at perfection.

Dividing this gorgeous journey in three acts (premises/struggle/solution), acts 1 and 3 are just everything you want and need from a concept song. Act 2 is slightly too convoluted and loses that otherworldly pace (but not the magnificent musical quality) appreciated before and soon to return. Then again, I'm just pointing out Mona Lisa's hair is slightly un-combed here. Odd fact about the singers, especially the male one: almost perfect at high registers, totally unrecognisable one octave down. Before checking, I was convinced there was a third dude.

Vote: 8.8: Just a little too smart for its own good, still a bonafide piece of art.


Parama - Six Roaming Owls

Hail Spirit Noire – The Mermaid:

Bus Impression: One song my dad would have loved
Timestamp Snippet: 8:50 - 9:55: You had to go "there" and spoil an otherwise perfect 10. Amazing.

If I put the darkest, most haunting, and deepest among my father's albums – those that really bewitched my baby years – into a blender programmed on “Classic Sounds in Never Heard Before Twists”, the juicy outcome would dangerously resemble this song. The orchestration is fathoms deep (love the “submarine” systematic diminishing of fifths and sixths by half the ensemble) and the rythmic manipulation is really seaworthy. Instrumentation seals the deal: the perfect sounds at the perfect spots.

I was being a sneaky focker with the timestamps. That part is glorious indeed and I feel it could have belonged inside Maidens' debut had Paul Dianno passed more LSD around. The 10 was lost by the ridicolous whispering, in strident contrast with the previous “regular” vocals possessing an unexpected and enjoyed 70's psychedelic prog greatness (check this name: Demetrio Stratos). Also, the very last minute may be one of the most satisfying conclusions I've heard in years.

Vote: 9.0 – This is winning progressive music. Daring, competent, and not giving a fock.


Sacul - Hangmanen Addicts

Snarky Puppy – What About Me?:

Bus Impression: One song made me find hope for progressive music in unexpected places
Timestamp Snippet: 5:14 - 5:42: That is pantheon level drumwork inside a pantheon level track

George Clinton and Billy Cobham had a baby in the Tower of Power, and the baby loves to rock. This is – as a matter of concept, not style – progressive music as I intend it. Don't give a damn about genres, pick a road without a destination set in mind, walk it with the best musicianship you can muster, and let your imagination surprise you. After the fact (and not before, according to some plan), just turn around, discover you've just created something fresh and great, and let some loser find a label for it.

This is the best of two worlds: catchy lines articulated by theoretical extremes, primitive pulse expressed through state-of-the-art groove. Music professors having fun with their abilities and open minds, ready to every possible outcome (in opposition to coldly concocting yet another lifeless and predictable variation to a noble tradition). I'm not even missing human voice, and that's telling. A lot. Like the tune ranked above, this blew me out of my expectations.

Vote: 9.0 – This may very well be a last second tracheotomy on suffocating prog music.


Coming back later with standings, thumbs ups and some considerations ...

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #507 on: October 10, 2018, 11:51:55 AM »
Nice!  30 minutes from where you live?  Crazy!
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #508 on: October 10, 2018, 11:54:25 AM »
Fun fact: Beyond the Bridge's singer, Herbie Langhans (I think) participated in one of the musical projects I feel someone (or even me) would send later in this roulette on one song, he sings very low there (probably lower than anything on BtB) and he's absolutely unrecognizable on that one. I'm pretty sure a lot of you know what I'm talking about, but maybe don't go and post the band name here in case someone sends them later in this roulette.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #509 on: October 10, 2018, 11:55:23 AM »
Kinda can't argue with Snarky Puppy.  I've only heard a little but it was pretty good. 

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #510 on: October 10, 2018, 12:07:54 PM »
Alex, you going to post the division standings in the OP?
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #511 on: October 10, 2018, 12:09:46 PM »
Yep, as well as submitted songs and acts, but later tonight.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #512 on: October 10, 2018, 12:11:09 PM »
darn, dacul gave me the D. Barely

Gotta pick me out something for the next round. I'm trying to formulate an EP concept in advance so I don't run out of material for it and incidentally the concept I have in mind crosses over with one of the bands I'm considering for the next round, so  :P

Also, screw whispering I guess rah rah

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #513 on: October 10, 2018, 02:01:13 PM »
Question about round 2: Do debut full-lengths count, where a band has first tested the waters with an EP release?

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #514 on: October 10, 2018, 03:07:47 PM »
Very legit assessment of the track, it is as if it tries too hard in places. But damn man, the whole thing really is a stunner.

I'll find something to send by tomorrow night, still being the NYC tourist.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #515 on: October 10, 2018, 04:32:38 PM »
Yo....these other songs are terrible!!!

Just kidding. Go team!!

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #516 on: October 10, 2018, 05:12:15 PM »
Yo....these other songs are terrible!!!

Just kidding. Go team!!
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #517 on: October 10, 2018, 05:15:07 PM »
I'll try to send something tonight, it's been a super busy day, sorry.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #518 on: October 10, 2018, 05:17:21 PM »
Question about round 2: Do debut full-lengths count, where a band has first tested the waters with an EP release?

Excellent question. I want you gentlemen to have fun, so a case of previous EP doesn't void a full-lenght's value as debut, and you can still pick a song from said EP if you wish.

I'll try to send something tonight, it's been a super busy day, sorry.

Take your sweet time. I need a full day far from this in order to reset my ears and tend to my poor Scenes thread.

The Standings:

The Tranquility Old Farts Conference:

lonestar - Team Fuck Canada: 8.8 - MetalHead:  :tup
kingshmegland - King Kongshmegland: 8.6 - ProgPipe:  :tup
TAC - The aTACkers: 8.4 - WestEndSlut:  :tup
jingle.boy - Boston Bruins Blow: 7.8 - WestEndSlut:  :tup
:metal: DestinyOfChaos - The One Trick Ponies: 7.3
romdrums - Seedy Rom and The Hard Drives: 7.0
Kattelox - The Rainbow Warriors: 6.8
Stadler - The Hartford Walers: 6.6


The Cetaphil Young Turks Conference:

Parama - Six Roaming Owls: 9.0 - BaroqueWig:  :tup
Sacul - Hangmanen Addicts: 9.0 - HeroinBop:  :tup
:scio: Evermind - Cockroach Sympathizers: 8.0 - WestEndSlut:  :tup
:shadowninja: Shadow Ninja 2.0 - Wayward Vagabonds: 7.6 - MetalHead:  :tup
:crypt: Elite - Rich and The Poor Tastes: 7.3
:ariich: ariich - Sexin'-You-Laters: 7.0
Aefenwelg - The Uhhhh.. Wildcats: 6.4
:metardica: Puppies_On_Acid - West Coast Lost Marbles: 6.2





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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #519 on: October 10, 2018, 06:02:39 PM »
Hell yeah  :metal . Although I like your description, I'd say Snarky Puppy in general are more of a Jazz Fusion band with some prog influences

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« Reply #520 on: October 10, 2018, 06:12:02 PM »
Sure. When I talk about progressive music I mean a category transcending styles and genres.

For example, Stevie Wonder has made progressive music, while a lot of acts categorised as prog don't.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #521 on: October 10, 2018, 11:49:29 PM »
Question about round 2: Do debut full-lengths count, where a band has first tested the waters with an EP release?

Excellent question. I want you gentlemen to have fun, so a case of previous EP doesn't void a full-lenght's value as debut, and you can still pick a song from said EP if you wish.
You are a true gent, sir.

I have something in mind so will send this morning.

EDIT: Ok sent!
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« Reply #522 on: October 11, 2018, 04:18:51 AM »
I vaguely remember promising some end-of round-considerations.

Firstly, thank you all for the great music, despite the ratings - in my case a matter of underlining the distance dividing a tune from absolute greatness, rather than showing dislike - I have enjoyed everything. The feeling of having 16 people choosing musical presents for me is pleasantly overwhelming.

Secondly, thank you all for the patience. I am a total roulette novice, a message board ignoramus, and BBCode focking hates me with a vengeance. I am sure you are all accostumed to a waaaaay tighter kind of playing experience. Please, don't hesitate to point out mistakes and corners to smooth.

Thirdly, feeling a bit guilty about the lack of banned lists, hence willing to provide extra help - I can't stress enough how much genres and styles do not factor in my judgements. I really have no prejudices and have never given an ounce of weight to musical common opinions. I (try to) let the song itself give me the parameters, and a major key in my appreciation swings seems to be the distance between what an act is setting out to accomplish and the actual result.

Carry on

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Two Princes
« Reply #523 on: October 11, 2018, 04:37:31 AM »
Please, someone choose Igorrr in any of the rounds for this good man to review  :biggrin:

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« Reply #524 on: October 11, 2018, 04:54:18 AM »
Please, don't hesitate to point out mistakes and corners to smooth.

Other than my score, everything is smashing so far.  :neverusethis:
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