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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #455 on: October 09, 2018, 03:14:16 PM »
Well, he called it World Destroying, and Best In the Internet Era. I'd say it was the highlight for the song for him.

His larger point was: that moment was like having Jillian Janson (if you don't already know, don't Google this reference. NSFW) looking longingly into your eyes while slowly climb up your legs. Her lips slightly parted, showing just the tip of her tongue, and just as she reaches for "little TAC" your wife startles you awake with a glass of ice-water to the crotch.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #456 on: October 09, 2018, 03:24:09 PM »
Gee Podaar, might be time for you to pop a blue pill and call the Mrs.  :lol
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #457 on: October 09, 2018, 03:27:01 PM »
 :lol
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #458 on: October 09, 2018, 03:30:15 PM »
Can someone gather up the remaining songs & tidbits, on my phone rn so it's a bit hard for me to do that atm

In the same order they've been originally posted, minus the ranked ones.

TAC: Michael Kiske - Do I Remember a Life?
lonestar: Beyond the Bridge - The Difference Is Human
Parama: Hail Spirit Noir - The Mermaid
kingshmegland: Barock Project - Happy to See You
Evermind: Big Big Train - Curator of Butterflies
jingle.boy:Evership - A Slow Descent into Reality
Shadow Ninja 2.0: While Heaven Wept – Vessel
Sacul:Snarky Puppy - What About Me?

One song made me find hope for progressive music in unexpected places
One song made me proud of where I'm from
One song made me joyful about '80's metal spirit carrying on
One song made me weep while serene
One song made me dream while awake
One song my dad would have loved
One song made me nod at careful architecture
One song made me clap at deeply thought execution.

1:38 - 2:02: I guess that's the closer you can fly to Jethro Tull without burning your wings.
3:29 - 3:42: That melody belongs to the realm of brazen emotional blackmail. Blackmail worked.
1:42 - 2:09: The most unassuming segment, yet I'm hopelessly addicted to it.
1:06 - 1:38: ... If you believe that you know in this world you've got anything to win ... Sorry, couldn't help it.
0:11 - 0:16: How the hell did A-Ha's Take on Me vocal line end up inside The Whirlwind's perfect missing piece?
8:50 - 9:55: You had to go "there" and spoil an otherwise perfect 10. Amazing.
8:23 - 10:16: I would have loved someone believing in that piano right from the start.
5:14 - 5:42: That is pantheon level drumwork inside a pantheon level track

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #459 on: October 09, 2018, 04:12:03 PM »
I'm still holding firm on the 1:42-2:09 part being Evership.

Barock Project is obviously proud where you're from
Kiske... weep with serene

Though, all of the remaining comments are very positive.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #460 on: October 09, 2018, 04:46:27 PM »
Well, he called it World Destroying, and Best In the Internet Era. I'd say it was the highlight for the song for him.

His larger point was: that moment was like having Jillian Janson (if you don't already know, don't Google this reference. NSFW) looking longingly into your eyes while slowly climb up your legs. Her lips slightly parted, showing just the tip of her tongue, and just as she reaches for "little TAC" your wife startles you awake with a glass of ice-water to the crotch.

Nice reference!   I approve whole heartedly!!

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #461 on: October 09, 2018, 04:47:45 PM »
like.

maybe the 8:50 one? because that's the segment that has some of the whispered vocal thingies? i dunno  :lol i wouldn't think you'd rate the song as a 10 though so i kinda doubt it

the first snippet kinda feels like it'd be mine though because "black metal" is probably an unexpected places though really that particular song barely has any black metal elements lol

1:42-2:09 is almost certainly that Beyond the Bridge song, also. just checked that one and yeah i can see that comment really applying & none of the others seem to fit

3:29-3:42 is most likely Big Big Train too


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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #462 on: October 09, 2018, 04:54:57 PM »
I wonder if this is mine. It fits the timing. :lol

"1:06 - 1:38: ... If you believe that you know in this world you've got anything to win ... Sorry, couldn't help it!"
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #463 on: October 09, 2018, 04:59:51 PM »
Great write-ups booboo

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #464 on: October 09, 2018, 05:15:26 PM »
I wonder if this is mine. It fits the timing. :lol

"1:06 - 1:38: ... If you believe that you know in this world you've got anything to win ... Sorry, couldn't help it!"

I don't think that reference even close fits there at all.

That reference belongs to Vessel.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #465 on: October 09, 2018, 05:27:39 PM »
8:23 piano comment is surely Kiske.

And since me Shadow and Parama are the only other tracks over 8:50, then one of us has to be that comment.  I don't see how it's Evership, since there's nothing that really starts or stops at those timestamps.

I'm still sticking with the 1:42 or 1:38 comment.  I do think it makes sense that mine and RJ's submissions fit those descriptions (at about those timestamps) in the context of the rest of our respective songs.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #466 on: October 09, 2018, 05:31:01 PM »
My song's not over 8 minutes, so it's just you and Parama.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #467 on: October 09, 2018, 06:15:06 PM »
5:14 - 5:42: That is pantheon level drumwork inside a pantheon level track
I think this one fits right with mine - there's a great drum solo on that part  :metal

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #468 on: October 09, 2018, 06:30:24 PM »
5:14 - 5:42: That is pantheon level drumwork inside a pantheon level track
I think this one fits right with mine - there's a great drum solo on that part  :metal

Without question.



1:42 is definitely BTB.

:11 is Evership

would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #469 on: October 09, 2018, 06:38:29 PM »
like.

maybe the 8:50 one? because that's the segment that has some of the whispered vocal thingies? i dunno  :lol i wouldn't think you'd rate the song as a 10 though so i kinda doubt it

8:50 starts the best part of that song.

would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #470 on: October 09, 2018, 07:03:31 PM »
i mean yeah the last 4 minutes or so are the best part of the song for sure  :metal

also yeah i checked out evership and that intro totally does have the take on me vocal line, wow  :corn

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #471 on: October 09, 2018, 07:07:51 PM »
My song's not over 8 minutes, so it's just you and Parama.

Ahh... I see.  Spotify merged Living Sepulchre/Vessel into one track.

@ TAC... yeah, I hear the Take On Me melody line now.  Guess I'm forfeiting my pay this week.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #472 on: October 09, 2018, 07:09:09 PM »
kingshmegland: Barock Project - Happy to See You
1:38 - 2:02: I guess that's the closer you can fly to Jethro Tull without burning your wings.

Evermind: Big Big Train - Curator of Butterflies
3:29 - 3:42: That melody belongs to the realm of brazen emotional blackmail. Blackmail worked.

lonestar: Beyond the Bridge - The Difference Is Human
1:42 - 2:09: The most unassuming segment, yet I'm hopelessly addicted to it.

Shadow Ninja 2.0: While Heaven Wept – Vessel
1:06 - 1:38: ... If you believe that you know in this world you've got anything to win ... Sorry, couldn't help it.

jingle.boy:Evership - A Slow Descent into Reality
0:11 - 0:16: How the hell did A-Ha's Take on Me vocal line end up inside The Whirlwind's perfect missing piece?

Parama: Hail Spirit Noir - The Mermaid
8:50 - 9:55: You had to go "there" and spoil an otherwise perfect 10. Amazing.

TAC: Michael Kiske - Do I Remember a Life?
8:23 - 10:16: I would have loved someone believing in that piano right from the start.

Sacul: Snarky Puppy - What About Me?
5:14 - 5:42: That is pantheon level drumwork inside a pantheon level track

so, putting together everything that's been pointed out + briefly checking out the last two, these are probably all right?

from this i expect Big Big Train and Snarky Puppy are both gonna be in the top 4. mine probably is too. dunno about what the last one would be though, it's a bit hard to tell

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #473 on: October 09, 2018, 07:12:15 PM »
But what were the bus thoughts associated with?
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #474 on: October 09, 2018, 07:26:44 PM »

1:42 - 2:09: The most unassuming segment, yet I'm hopelessly addicted to it.


This is without a doubt Beyond the Bridge.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #475 on: October 09, 2018, 07:26:49 PM »
"proud of where I'm from" is Barock Project for sure
"weep while serene" is probably Big Big Train
either of the last two could be Snarky Puppy
i'm still adamant the first one is mine but I could be wrong
"'80's metal spirit" will be While Heaven Wept considering the reference (i looked it up :V)

the rest i ain't sure

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #476 on: October 09, 2018, 07:31:54 PM »

"'80's metal spirit" will be While Heaven Wept considering the reference (i looked it up :V)


Helloween, and the reference comes from the single greatest vocal performance I've ever heard, sung by the singer that I sent this round.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #477 on: October 10, 2018, 01:07:17 AM »
Good morning, bedlam. I'm loving you all checking each other's songs.

Timestamps solved, we're almost there with the bus ones.

Last day of results. 3 of 4 at lunch, 4 of 4 at dinner.

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« Reply #478 on: October 10, 2018, 07:08:02 AM »
This batch isn't knocking on the pantheon's door by virtue of details, and I'm mainly focusing on those.

Round One Results, 3 of 4:

:shadowninja: Shadow Ninja 2.0 - Wayward Vagabonds

While Heaven Wept – Vessel:

Bus Impression: One song made me joyful about '80's metal spirit carrying on
Timestamp Snippet:1:06 - 1:38: ... If you believe that you know in this world you've got anything to win ... Sorry, couldn't help it.

When you find a way to frankenstein echoes of Helloween's We Got the Right and shades of Manowar's Heart of Steel, you land right on what I love best abot prefix-free metal. Galopping aggression in the verse, triumphant cheese in the chorus: et voilà, winning brew. Plus, strong injections of 6/8 never fail to bring the point across, to this musical sensitiveness. Add a singer cut for this style and you are virtually avoiding weak points.

Wait, why aren't we talking 'bout a pantheon 9 here then? Because the formula apparently worked so well that the guys relied with redundant abandon on the chorus, while I suspect a more definite breakdown section and some clouds-parting guitar soloing would have made this tune a really transcendantal business. Thinking about it, why not repurposing that beautiful acoustic intro later? That idea deserved its own development lightspot.

Vote: 7.6 – My pimples years metal at its sweetest, too few pimples.


jingle.boy - Boston Bruins Blow

Evership: A Slow Descent into Reality:

Bus Impression: One song made me nod at careful architecture
Timestamp Snippet: 0:11 - 0:16: How the hell did A-Ha's Take on Me vocal line end up inside The Whirlwind's perfect missing piece?

This was the hardes writeup, 'cause my feelings are really mixed about this. Or better, what I consider this song's cause for success is at the same time its limiting factor. Rarely I've witnessed a more balanced suite, movements masterfully sewn together, the whole almost lying about its effective duration. Also, musical quality is unquestionable: I could put half tune inside The Whirlwind and the other half inside Queen II. That's saying a lot from the buffoon typing this.

Well, what led to the above mentioned praise is the same thing keeping a sort of ceiling on this track (and when you play the suite game you should gun for the roofless sky). The perfect democracy dispensed on different movements creates a gorgeous cathedral on paper, but ignores fundamental contingencies. For example: better not having a solo section if the soloists (great in harmony teamwork) are a bit shaky and pedestrian when left alone. Or, I need a bigger and more grandiose finale, a greater payoff for the incredibly high stakes established at the beginning. Or, you have a lot of tools in your voice, dare to lose control …

Vote: 7.8 – Grand and sweet, could have been heavenly without a lot of calculus.



:scio: Evermind - Cockroach Sympathizers

Big Big Train – Curator of Butterflies:

Bus Impression: One song made me dream while awake
Timestamp Snippet: 3:29 - 3:42: That melody belongs to the realm of brazen emotional blackmail. Blackmail worked.

You slipped musical rape drug inside my drink, that's what you did. The moving power of Barry White's Love Theme's harmonic progression, a singer created in a lab mixing Lake and Gabriel DNAs, licks and lines I can only describe as aural pornography, and an orchestra playing like the fate of human sex depended on it. Given the premises, why aren't you running away with the prize here?

You forgot dynamics. You could have slowly dispensed that brand of sugar and honey, giving me multiple and increasingly strong orgasms. By mid song I was: “Make this last for ever!” (a fantastic place to be anyway), but I could have been: “Really? Wugldufkduglufufufuf Again? Jsdlkjflkjlkfjfghjfghjfgjhj Can't believe this! Qwqygjjlkhjkòlkihlòkàjlòlàòk”. Moanings aside, you totally nailed my ideal scope and stature for melody. The wife thanks too, by the way.

Vote: 8.0 – Literally from my Marks System: “Loving this. Not perfect, but something here speaks to my soul.”


TAC - The aTACkers

Michael Kiske – Do I Remember a Life?:

Bus Impression: One song made me weep while serene
Timestamp Snippet: 8:23 - 10:16: I would have loved someone believing in that piano right from the start.

I really have to rationalise to myself why I'm not rating Archangel Michael pouring his heart out a solid 15 here. I don't know how many singers on the planet can hit you harder with sheer sound, eschewing every rock singing helpful accelerant such as sexy beastness or epic storyteller pose. He is pure unfiltered soul (the concept, not the genre) voice. I'm afraid he's not a songwriter of such titanic proportions, which honestly I suspect no human being can be.

Adrian and Kai were on this album elsewhere. Why the fock weren't they legally forced to arrange this cut is beyond me. Everything until the final piano (Voice of God responding to the prayer) conspired to avoid this ending up as the greatest ballad in its generation. The acoustic guitars are clumsy (you had the perfect piano for the job), the french horn inserts distracting, the electric part wishy-washy. I love this song. Love is blind, not deaf.

Vote: 8.4 – My heart says 10 and you know that, but my brain doesn't agree.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #479 on: October 10, 2018, 07:17:27 AM »
Woot Woot!  Top 4!!!
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #480 on: October 10, 2018, 07:30:22 AM »
Well, I'll obviously take a 3rd place finish in the Fogey Division. I was expecting more...but the Beyond The Bridge tune was destined to be right up there, and I'm very surprised at the score for Evership. I actually expected that to be in the Top 2. I even PM'd Chad to say that.


Little surprised the Barack Project is in the Top 2.




And I am sent for Round 2.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #481 on: October 10, 2018, 07:31:48 AM »
I'm not.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #482 on: October 10, 2018, 07:41:32 AM »
It's been closer than you think.

Let's just say there's only a 0.5 differential between #4 and #1 in the next results.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #483 on: October 10, 2018, 07:42:06 AM »
Woot Woot!  Top 4!!!

Le this. Though I had little doubt, my song is borderline flawless.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #484 on: October 10, 2018, 08:23:38 AM »
Glad you liked it enough that I scraped that important 7.0 rating! I'll try to use this first round to get a better fix on your tastes for future rounds.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Double Pair
« Reply #485 on: October 10, 2018, 08:40:12 AM »
kingshmegland: Barock Project - Happy to See You
1:38 - 2:02: I guess that's the closer you can fly to Jethro Tull without burning your wings.

lonestar: Beyond the Bridge - The Difference Is Human
1:42 - 2:09: The most unassuming segment, yet I'm hopelessly addicted to it.

Parama: Hail Spirit Noir - The Mermaid
8:50 - 9:55: You had to go "there" and spoil an otherwise perfect 10. Amazing.

Sacul: Snarky Puppy - What About Me?
5:14 - 5:42: That is pantheon level drumwork inside a pantheon level track

from this i expect Big Big Train and Snarky Puppy are both gonna be in the top 4. mine probably is too. dunno about what the last one would be though, it's a bit hard to tell

well 2 of my 3 top 4 predictions were right  :corn
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #486 on: October 10, 2018, 09:04:24 AM »
Can't argue with that Kiske score one bit.   Great track, and thanks to TAC for bringing it to my attention.

Anyway, some of this is hard to follow.  Am I in or out?  Do I send Round 2, or start smack-talking and whining?   :)

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #487 on: October 10, 2018, 09:11:17 AM »
Anyway, some of this is hard to follow.

Sorry

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In at least until playoffs, that is after round 5

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #488 on: October 10, 2018, 09:26:53 AM »
I just listened to that Kiske song, and I must say, that was the most un-TAClike music I've ever heard. If I heard it blind and didn't know who was singing I never would have guessed it was a submission by Tim. Where's the heft? Where's the balls? Where's the lack of :TAC:?
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Knocking on Pantheon's Door
« Reply #489 on: October 10, 2018, 09:31:32 AM »
Rite?  But heh... it's Kiske.  Anything he lends his voice to is akin an aural hummer for TAC.
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