Author Topic: "Must-have" or huge classic albums that you "don't get"? (Read 11928 times)

CrimsonSunrise · « **Reply #140 on:** September 18, 2018, 09:48:07 AM »

Anyone who doesn't get DSOTM has probably never sucked on the business end of a bong before....

Overrated Hit albums? Just to name a few....

Sgt. Peppers
White Album
Abby Road
Close to The Edge
1984
Boston
Exile on Main Street
Joshua Tree
Achtung Baby

Stadler · « **Reply #141 on:** September 18, 2018, 10:25:02 AM »

Quote from: CrimsonSunrise on September 18, 2018, 09:48:07 AM

Anyone who doesn't get DSOTM has probably never sucked on the business end of a bong before....

Overrated Hit albums? Just to name a few....

Sgt. Peppers
White Album
Abby Road
Close to The Edge
1984
Boston
Exile on Main Street
Joshua Tree
Achtung Baby

GTFO. Abbey Road rules, 1984 rules, The Joshua Tree rules... you are right about "Exile" though.

pg1067 · « **Reply #142 on:** September 18, 2018, 11:59:04 AM »

Quote from: CrimsonSunrise on September 18, 2018, 09:48:07 AM

Anyone who doesn't get DSOTM has probably never sucked on the business end of a bong before....

Overrated Hit albums? Just to name a few....

Sgt. Peppers
White Album
Abby Road
Close to The Edge
1984
Boston
Exile on Main Street
Joshua Tree
Achtung Baby

As to the first point, I never have, and I'll draw an analogy between music and burgers. If you have to slather your burger with sauce and vegetables to make it palatable, then it isn't a very good burger (I'm looking at you, In 'n' Out). Likewise, if you have to be high to "get" or like a song or band, then the song or band sucks.

I do, however, agree with you about 1984 and the two U2 albums. War was pretty much the last U2 album worth a damn. 1984 was pretty much the perfect album for that year, but I still think (and pretty much always have thought) it sucked hard.

The Walrus · « **Reply #143 on:** September 18, 2018, 12:00:38 PM »

I didn't smoke weed until 10 years AFTER I got into Floyd. Dark Side is drop dead incredible high or not.

Echoes is the one you might need to be baked like a cake for. Or Ummagumma. Or...

bosk1 · « **Reply #144 on:** September 18, 2018, 12:54:16 PM »

I have NEVER smoked weed, not do I intend to, but Dark Side is THE album that got me into Floyd. I forget whether I bought that and Momentary Lapse at the same time, or if I got Momentary Lapse shortly after.

The Walrus · « **Reply #145 on:** September 18, 2018, 01:00:52 PM »

Because you got high... because you got high... because you got high...

Indiscipline · « **Reply #146 on:** September 18, 2018, 01:31:15 PM »

It should be said that Dark Side of the Moon brought many of us fortysomethings, well, into the world.

CrimsonSunrise · « **Reply #147 on:** September 18, 2018, 02:05:43 PM »

Quote from: pg1067 on September 18, 2018, 11:59:04 AM

Likewise, if you have to be high to "get" or like a song or band, then the song or band sucks.

You make a valid point in that you shouldn't have to be loaded to enjoy the music. That being said.......it sure didn't hurt

. I was at a buddies house, 8th grade, and pretty baked the first time I heard DSOTM. Dude cranked up the volume right before the intro for Time....woke me up REAL quick! While he laughed hi ass off. Damn kids!!!!

Cool Chris · « **Reply #148 on:** September 18, 2018, 02:13:06 PM »

Quote from: CrimsonSunrise on September 18, 2018, 09:48:07 AM

Exile on Main Street

I am a big Stones guy, and there isn't much on this album that appeals to me. Definitely a "I just don't get the hype" album.

Quote from: pg1067 on September 18, 2018, 11:59:04 AM

Likewise, if you have to be high to "get" or like a song or band, then the song or band sucks.

That band might not suck, but it has a pretty crappy business model since it only seems to be going after a specific demographic, and one in that must be in a specific state of mind to enjoy your product.

Quote from: Indiscipline on September 18, 2018, 01:31:15 PM

It should be said that Dark Side of the Moon brought many of us fortysomethings, well, into the world.

Floyd fans in the early 70s got laid? I was thinking this would apply more to Zeppelin.

Podaar · « **Reply #149 on:** September 18, 2018, 04:37:35 PM »

Quote from: Cool Chris on September 18, 2018, 02:13:06 PM

Quote from: Indiscipline on September 18, 2018, 01:31:15 PM
It should be said that Dark Side of the Moon brought many of us fortysomethings, well, into the world.

Floyd fans in the early 70s got laid? I was thinking this would apply more to Zeppelin.

I think you're forgetting that in the '70s the women were just as baked as the men. The munchies aren't the only side effect of pot and certainly not the best either.

jammindude · « **Reply #150 on:** September 18, 2018, 05:08:42 PM »

And side 1 is supposedly perfect. 20 min long, starts slow, gets a little frantic in the middle, and ends with a woman moaning and screaming.

Stadler · « **Reply #151 on:** September 18, 2018, 06:11:46 PM »

Yeah, I don't know about that. I'm not a huge weed head either, though not a virgin, and any action I got in my haze was either the Dead or the Eagles. Otherwise it was always Zeppelin. I think I've gotten more action while Zeppelin was playing than all other bands combined. The only one that is close is Van Halen (because I dated a girl in high school that was a VH freak).

The Walrus · « **Reply #152 on:** September 18, 2018, 06:25:20 PM »

Floyd and Zeppelin are still the ultimate. Got it on myself some years ago in the middle of the Ozarks while Zoso and Think Floyd were playing (tribute bands obv.). The magic is still there. Granted, LSD might have been involved, but it's true, it's fucking good music for bumping uglies

TAC · « **Reply #153 on:** September 18, 2018, 06:37:31 PM »

Yeah..um..OK. I'll check back in the morning when you guys are done.

The Walrus · « **Reply #154 on:** September 18, 2018, 06:47:19 PM »

Dream Team · « **Reply #155 on:** September 18, 2018, 09:46:21 PM »

Quote from: twosuitsluke on September 13, 2018, 04:00:49 PM

Prepared to be crucified but....anything by Iron Maiden!

I guess I get it if they were your gateway metal band and what introduced you to metal. My gateway metal band was Metallica though and they did everything bigger, better and were 'cooler' as far as I'm concerned.

I compare it to my thoughts, growing up, on sci-fi. I was a massive Star Wars fan (still am). I lived and breathed Star Wars. It was cool as fuck and just epic. Then there was Star Trek...

Star Trek (in my head) was just inferior, kinda lame and leagues behind Star Wars in the 'cool' factor. It was for complete nerds and people who would probably live at home forever, letting their mum buy their clothes and never getting laid. Star Wars on the other hand, I was convinced, was for cool kids who would basically all grow up to be Han Solo!

My view on Iron Maiden is kind of the same. I understand they came before Metallica (and influenced them), just as Star Trek helped pave the way for Star Wars. However, I wasn't around to witness that so I've always seen them as the 'nerdy, never get laid, tucks their t-shirt into their jeans' band which attracts those sort of fans. It doesn't help that I can't really stand Bruce Dickenson's voice. Anyway, I digress, I basically don't 'get' Maiden.

Ready for the backlash

Late to the thread, but this post makes me weep.

KevShmev · « **Reply #156 on:** September 22, 2018, 06:47:58 AM »

I am mostly in agreement with twosuitsluke. Iron Maiden has a few songs I like quite a bit, but overall they just don't do it for me. To me, they are a poor man's Judas Priest. Bring on the carnage.

TAC · « **Reply #157 on:** September 22, 2018, 06:57:25 AM »

I can understand (well I can't

) someone not liking Iron Maiden, but to call them a poor man's Judas Priest.... That doesn't even make sense. You sound like a lazy Rolling Stone journalist.

KevShmev · « **Reply #158 on:** September 22, 2018, 07:03:58 AM »

I knew what to say to get a reaction from you.

Jokes aside, I often see Priest and Maiden compared (metal bands with a twin-guitar attack and a singer who can/could get way up there), and to me there is no comparison. I can't think of a single Maiden songs as nearly as great as Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death, Sinner, The Rage, Exciter, Bloodstone, A Touch of Evil...my gosh, the list goes on and on!

The Walrus · « **Reply #159 on:** September 22, 2018, 07:20:58 AM »

Ya'll are mixed up. Priest is a poor man's Maiden. Maiden is tops.

Indiscipline · « **Reply #160 on:** September 22, 2018, 07:31:34 AM »

80's Iron Maiden (and Helloween) is how I would define Heavy Metal.

Halford's vocals keep me from really appreciating Judas Priest, and as far as twin guitars are concerned, although they're great and brilliant, they don't touch Thin Lizzy in my taste.

TAC · « **Reply #161 on:** September 22, 2018, 07:36:27 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on September 22, 2018, 07:03:58 AM

I can't think of a single Maiden songs as nearly as great as Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death, Sinner, The Rage, Exciter, Bloodstone, A Touch of Evil...my gosh, the list goes on and on!

There's plenty. But if you want to put up JP's Top 10 or 15 against Maiden's Top 10 or 15, I'd have no problem with someone picking JP, not that I agree with it, but at least I respect it. I just think Maiden's whole catalog is so much stronger than Priest's.

Stadler · « **Reply #162 on:** September 22, 2018, 09:59:14 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on September 22, 2018, 07:03:58 AM

I knew what to say to get a reaction from you.

Jokes aside, I often see Priest and Maiden compared (metal bands with a twin-guitar attack and a singer who can/could get way up there), and to me there is no comparison. I can't think of a single Maiden songs as nearly as great as Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death, Sinner, The Rage, Exciter, Bloodstone, A Touch of Evil...my gosh, the list goes on and on!

All good songs, but Maiden is a step above. I love Priest (first concert ever) and I have a new appreciation for them now, but I even sort of soured on them for a while, because they are just so... cartoony. I never really got into the "Metal God" thing. Maiden had a gravity to them that I never felt with Priest. There are no Maiden songs like "Hot Rockin'", you know?

425 · « **Reply #163 on:** September 23, 2018, 01:23:51 PM »

Quote from: Stadler on September 22, 2018, 09:59:14 PM

I love Priest (first concert ever) and I have a new appreciation for them now, but I even sort of soured on them for a while, because they are just so... cartoony. I never really got into the "Metal God" thing. Maiden had a gravity to them that I never felt with Priest. There are no Maiden songs like "Hot Rockin'", you know?

Yeah, this is why I never got that much into Priest while I love Iron Maiden. Maiden had their occasional cartoony moments in the early 80s, and inexplicably brought them back in their weak early 90s period, but by and large there really is a weight and seriousness to their music and lyrics. Priest it seems like sometimes has some serious material, but doesn't really go all the way with it like Maiden.

jammindude · « **Reply #164 on:** September 23, 2018, 02:35:21 PM »

Quote from: Stadler on September 22, 2018, 09:59:14 PM

Quote from: KevShmev on September 22, 2018, 07:03:58 AM
I knew what to say to get a reaction from you.

Jokes aside, I often see Priest and Maiden compared (metal bands with a twin-guitar attack and a singer who can/could get way up there), and to me there is no comparison. I can't think of a single Maiden songs as nearly as great as Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death, Sinner, The Rage, Exciter, Bloodstone, A Touch of Evil...my gosh, the list goes on and on!

All good songs, but Maiden is a step above. I love Priest (first concert ever) and I have a new appreciation for them now, but I even sort of soured on them for a while, because they are just so... cartoony. I never really got into the "Metal God" thing. Maiden had a gravity to them that I never felt with Priest. There are no Maiden songs like "Hot Rockin'", you know?

Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter would like a word. It might have a more adult subject matter....but OMG HOW HOKEY!!!!

WildRanger · « **Reply #165 on:** September 23, 2018, 02:39:50 PM »

When it comes to 'Big 4 of Metal' I would rank them like this, based on my preference:
1. Black Sabbath (first 6 albums plus Heaven & Hell & Mob Rules and maybe I could add Dehumanizer, but maybe!

)
2. Iron Maiden (first 7 albums plus Brave New World)
3. Judas Priest (70's run of albums Sad Wings - Unleashed in the East, Screaming for Vengeance and Painkiller)
4. Metallica as the distant fourth (Ride, Master, Justice)

The Walrus · « **Reply #166 on:** September 23, 2018, 04:48:42 PM »

Bring Your Daughter is one of Maiden's best songs.

jammindude · « **Reply #167 on:** September 23, 2018, 05:05:10 PM »

Quote from: Kattelox on September 23, 2018, 04:48:42 PM

Bring Your Daughter is one of Maiden's best songs.

The Walrus · « **Reply #168 on:** September 23, 2018, 05:38:33 PM »

It is though. I've never understood why it gets crapped on.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #169 on:** September 23, 2018, 07:54:58 PM »

Quote from: Kattelox on September 23, 2018, 05:38:33 PM

It is though. I've never understood why it gets crapped on.

At first I was hoping you forgot the change the font to green. It gets hate because it's mid-tier song on their worst (Bruce) album ... BY FAR.

The Walrus · « **Reply #170 on:** September 23, 2018, 08:16:01 PM »

How is it mid-tier? I always hear that, but never hear an explanation as to why. What about it is so bad? The lyrical content? As if singing about mythology and whores and Satan isn't silly too? Song has a sick riff, a great melody and a powerful hook. Not a damn thing wrong with BYDTTS. That song alone is better than no less than 4 of their full albums put together.

BTW, their worst Bruce album is Dance of Death or Final Frontier.

KevShmev · « **Reply #171 on:** September 23, 2018, 08:22:50 PM »

Quote from: Stadler on September 22, 2018, 09:59:14 PM

All good songs, but Maiden is a step above. I love Priest (first concert ever) and I have a new appreciation for them now, but I even sort of soured on them for a while, because they are just so... cartoony. I never really got into the "Metal God" thing. Maiden had a gravity to them that I never felt with Priest. There are no Maiden songs like "Hot Rockin'", you know?

Cartoony? Wait, you've seen Iron Maiden's album covers, right? Those literally look like cartoon drawings.

IDontNotDoThings · « **Reply #172 on:** September 23, 2018, 08:34:35 PM »

We going into controversial IM opinions? ok

The Edge Of Darkness is their worst song

Zook · « **Reply #173 on:** September 23, 2018, 09:16:14 PM »

Sun and Steel is a good song.

IDontNotDoThings · « **Reply #174 on:** September 23, 2018, 09:18:16 PM »

Quote from: Zook on September 23, 2018, 09:16:14 PM

Sun and Steel is a good song.

Anyway, back on topic:

Anthrax - Among The Living

(or really, just any Anthrax album besides STD, POT, or FAK)

News: Track-by-track video for Untethered Angel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co1_h0GtAw

Author Topic: "Must-have" or huge classic albums that you "don't get"? (Read 11928 times)