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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #105 on: October 16, 2018, 08:33:28 AM »
It would be a bit difficult to precisely find out, but what could possibly be the song where James starts to sing the earliest, and the latest?

For the latest, it's probably Octavarium, followed by In the Presence of Enemies pt 1. But which song has the least amount of time from the start of the song, to James starting to sing? Take away my pain? any of the simpler, shorter songs such Wait for Sleep or I Walk Beside You? if live versions count, it's Take away my pain off Once in a Livetime, he literally starts the song by singing and the others coming in.
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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #106 on: October 16, 2018, 08:38:14 AM »
Earliest: The Spirit Carries On

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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #107 on: October 16, 2018, 08:45:51 AM »
Earliest: The Spirit Carries On

Just nudges out Silent Man by a single strum of a guitar.

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« Reply #108 on: October 16, 2018, 08:47:07 AM »
Totally forgot about those two! yeah, we have the correct answer hehe.

(On the podium there's also My Last Farewell now that I think of it)
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« Reply #109 on: October 16, 2018, 09:04:52 AM »
Now you mentioned it, I think there's not even one DT song where the vocals begins alone (like Dancing With The Moonlit Knight or Carry On My Wayward Son - although in the latter one it's more than one singer).
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« Reply #110 on: October 16, 2018, 10:32:33 AM »
Earliest: The Spirit Carries On

Just nudges out Silent Man by a single strum of a guitar.

Whispers on the Wind.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #111 on: October 16, 2018, 10:35:42 AM »
Earliest: The Spirit Carries On

Just nudges out Silent Man by a single strum of a guitar.

Whispers on the Wind.

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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #112 on: October 16, 2018, 10:38:57 AM »
The longest: Stream of Consciousness.

I mean, this thread is called "Stupid Dream Theater factoids". :biggrin:

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« Reply #113 on: October 16, 2018, 10:39:45 AM »
Earliest: The Spirit Carries On

Just nudges out Silent Man by a single strum of a guitar.

Whispers on the Wind.
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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #114 on: October 16, 2018, 11:33:12 AM »
I actually thoguht about it one time.. I remember thinking in Fatal Tragedy, The Silent Man and Prophets of War, in that order... but yeah, totally forgot about TSCO, that one beats them all..

And yes, now with TA there's WotW, My Last Farewell, and Lord Nafaryus too..

If we go along that way, the Overture from Six Degrees has never been played live.... by DT.

The only time it was actually performed live, an orchestra played it, not DT.

Yeah, I think this is a special case too.. They didn't play it because they simply can't, as someone explained.. Not like FAS, which they actually can play as a band..
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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #115 on: October 16, 2018, 01:31:29 PM »
I found some setlists from the tour supporting Six Degrees, and it seems like the whole suite was performed on that tour!
Nope. You can't always trust setlist.fm to be 100% accurate anymore than you can trust Wikipedia to be 100% accurate.
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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #116 on: October 17, 2018, 10:51:50 PM »
100% DT factoid:

-They've never released songs with the following amount of minutes:

0 (not counting the nomac tracks)
15
17
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20
21
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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #117 on: October 18, 2018, 04:20:50 AM »
Dream Theater has released 63,017 seconds of studio material across 148 tracks (including ACOS title track).


This means that the average length of a DT song is 426 seconds, or 7:06


(Edit: forgot TLF, Eve, & Raw Dog)
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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #118 on: October 18, 2018, 06:46:23 AM »
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« Reply #119 on: October 18, 2018, 07:01:08 AM »
I assume that's a Majesty logo shaped graph that lists all the words used by DT given more prominence to the most used ones, right?

Where are anyway the words "water" and "edge" in big?  :biggrin:
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« Reply #120 on: October 18, 2018, 07:28:56 AM »
I just put in all the lyrics, and thats what came out :D
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« Reply #121 on: October 18, 2018, 07:33:24 AM »
I once put in all Kevin Moore lyrics (from DT and all other projects) into a generator and got this:

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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #122 on: October 19, 2018, 12:22:17 PM »
Dream Theater has released 63,017 seconds of studio material across 148 tracks (including ACOS title track).


This means that the average length of a DT song is 426 seconds, or 7:06


(Edit: forgot TLF, Eve, & Raw Dog)

Seriously?

You do realize that works out to 6 minutes and 66 seconds, right?
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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #123 on: October 19, 2018, 01:14:57 PM »
(Edit: forgot .... Raw Dog)

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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #124 on: October 19, 2018, 05:26:56 PM »
Now you mentioned it, I think there's not even one DT song where the vocals begins alone (like Dancing With The Moonlit Knight or Carry On My Wayward Son - although in the latter one it's more than one singer).

I'll Never Fall In Love Again -- Winter Rose is a close contender.

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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #125 on: October 19, 2018, 11:07:25 PM »
Longest Instrumental Sections:
#1. The Count Of Tuscany [8:49-14:48 = 5:59]
#2. Breaking All Illusions [5:01-10:36 = 5:35]
#3. Octavarium [0:00-5:32 = 5:32]
#4. Illumination Theory [6:00-11:23 = 5:23]
#5. In The Presence Of Enemies - Part II [9:16-14:35 = 5:19]
#6. In The Presence Of Enemies - Part I [0:00-5:12 = 5:12]
#7. The Ministry Of Lost Souls [6:37-11:19 = 4:42]
#8. A Change Of Seasons [0:00-4:27 = 4:27]
#9. Outcry [4:41-9:07 = 4:26]
10. The Count Of Tuscany [0:00-4:23 = 4:23]
11. Endless Sacrifice [4:54-9:15 = 4:21]
12. Illumination Theory [17:59-22:17 = 4:18]
13. Sacrificed Sons [3:36-7:50 = 4:14]
14. Beyond This Life [5:55-10:05 = 4:10]
15. Trial Of Tears [6:00-10:09 = 4:09]

(or in layman's terms:)
#1. The Count Of Tuscany (Bridge/Ambient section)
#2. Breaking All Illusions
#3. Octavarium (Intro)
#4. Illumination Theory (The Embracing Circle)
#5. In The Presence Of Enemies (The Reckoning/Salvation)
#6. In The Presence Of Enemies (Prelude)
#7. The Ministry Of Lost Souls
#8. A Change Of Seasons (Intro)
#9. Outcry
10. The Count Of Tuscany (Intro)
11. Endless Sacrifice
12. Illumination Theory (Outro/Hidden track)
13. Sacrificed Sons
14. Beyond This Life
15. Trial Of Tears

(side-notes:)
*instrumental tracks aren't counted
*all vocals count, including samples & backing vocals
*didn't consider songs shorter than 8 minutes (I don't hate myself that much)
*based on tracks, not necessarily "songs"
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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #126 on: October 20, 2018, 02:58:42 AM »
(Edit: forgot .... Raw Dog)

Don't worry, we all have.

I love Raw Dog! I actually think it's a better instrumental than Enigma Machine.
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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #127 on: October 20, 2018, 04:43:15 AM »
Dream Theater has released 63,017 seconds of studio material across 148 tracks (including ACOS title track).


This means that the average length of a DT song is 426 seconds, or 7:06


(Edit: forgot TLF, Eve, & Raw Dog)

Seriously?

You do realize that works out to 6 minutes and 66 seconds, right?

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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #128 on: October 20, 2018, 04:56:08 AM »
Well we are in the presence of the Dark Master, after all.

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Re: Stupid Dream Theater factoids.
« Reply #129 on: October 27, 2018, 01:00:38 AM »
Octavarium was the first DT album since I&W to not have an instrumental.
DT12 was the first DT album since TOT to have an instrumental.

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« Reply #130 on: October 27, 2018, 01:15:37 AM »
Octavarium was the first DT album since I&W to not have an instrumental.

Unless you consider SDoIT one song.
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« Reply #131 on: October 29, 2018, 05:22:08 PM »
All of the Big Three in the record industry have the rights to Dream Theater music:

*Universal: When dream and day unite
*Warner: everything else released to date.
*Sony: what they just recorded.

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« Reply #132 on: October 30, 2018, 04:27:53 AM »
Including titles beginning with “The”, DT has not written a song title under the following letters;

Q
Z

Will we get one of these on the upcoming?

*Better*
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« Reply #133 on: October 30, 2018, 04:50:00 AM »
Maybe a song will be called Under a Glass Moon.

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« Reply #134 on: October 30, 2018, 05:26:27 AM »
Maybe a song will be called Under a Glass Moon.

 ;D

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« Reply #135 on: October 30, 2018, 05:58:27 AM »
Which realistic songs they could do anyway? The Quest for something? too power metal. Quo Vadis? Quantum of Solace? can DT do Bond songs?

Zeitgeist? Stratovarious had a song "Zenith of Power". Zelda maybe?  ;D
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« Reply #136 on: October 30, 2018, 06:02:23 AM »
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« Reply #137 on: October 30, 2018, 06:36:06 AM »
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« Reply #138 on: October 30, 2018, 06:38:12 AM »
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« Reply #139 on: October 30, 2018, 07:08:33 AM »
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