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Williams and Krug were going at it quite a bit in the first period.  Both teams had a hard time reeling the emotions in but as a captain, Williams failed to set the right tone for the Canes.
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Williams played like a goon in the first, but despite that, it was still 0-0, and Carolina was dominant.  Rask is/was the difference maker, not Williams.  Even without those bone-head penalties, I don't believe 6 extra minutes at 5-5 wouldn't have made a difference.

Rask is winning this series for the Bruins.... The rest of the team is playing 'good enough'.

I've got no problem cheering for either Western team - but I do want it to be the Blues.  Rask and Cassidy make it really hard to hate the Bs... but I will still manage to do so.   ;D
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I'm obligated by marriage to pull for the Bruins, but if the Blues make the SCF, I'll secretly be rooting for them.  There is no Eastern Conference team I wouldn't root for to beat the Sharts.
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I'm obligated by marriage to pull for the Bruins, but if the Blues make the SCF, I'll secretly be rooting for them.  There is no Eastern Conference team I wouldn't root for to beat the Sharts.

If the Blues get in you better keep everything on the inside.  LOL  That's a hornet's nest I wouldn't mess with.
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FYI itís OK to hand pass pucks to your team mates now for game winning goals. The NHL is a fucking joke. How many calls can one team get?
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Just give the Sharks the Cup now.  The refs gave them the series against Vegas and now that debacle. 

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FYI itís OK to hand pass pucks to your team mates now for game winning goals. The NHL is a fucking joke. How many calls can one team get?

Yeah, Iím pulling for the Sharks in this series, but I hate to see wins like that from shitty officiating. Blues got fucked on that one. Is a hand pass reviewable? And if so, how did they let that one stand?!

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Yeah, Iím pulling for the Sharks in this series, but I hate to see wins like that from shitty officiating. Blues got fucked on that one. Is a hand pass reviewable? And if so, how did they let that one stand?!

Because it's a garbage league.  Great sport, garbage league.

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That was absolute bullshit
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I'm also pulling for the Sharks to win this series, but it's a shame to see such a great game end on a blatantly illegal play leading to a goal. The series is far from over though.

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If it is possible for them to be an even bigger joke, the NHL will become one if any of those four officials work another game in these playoffs.

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Were those the same refs from that Saints Rams game out there?  :rollin

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FYI itís OK to hand pass pucks to your team mates now for game winning goals. The NHL is a fucking joke. How many calls can one team get?

Yeah, Iím pulling for the Sharks in this series, but I hate to see wins like that from shitty officiating. Blues got fucked on that one. Is a hand pass reviewable? And if so, how did they let that one stand?!

Not reviewable but you can review if a guy goes offside but a fraction of a millimeter. Itís a joke. How does not one of the officials see that hand pass that literally happened right in front of the net? Itís not like the puck was anywhere else.....it was being hand passed. Also, Itís comical how giddy NBC gets when things go the Sharks way. No attempts at all at a non biased coverage. Itís very clear who they are pulling for.



Still doesnít excuse the horrible play by #27 the last two minutes of the game. He should be on the bench in those times because heís a  :censored liability. Honestly.....irs questionable as to why he gets these responsible minutes. Paryako needs to be in there....not #27. And Not scoring the empty netter cost again. Every other team in the league seems to be able to do that....not the Blues.

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I thought the guys on NBC were all in agreement that the goal shouldn't have been allowed...

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I thought the guys on NBC were all in agreement that the goal shouldn't have been allowed...

Well sure. They have to be. Thereís really no other thing to say there. Iím talking in general through the game.

It doesnít take a discerning ear or eye to see that in every series the Blues have played NBC and whichever ding bats theyíve had covering their games were favoring first the Jets, then Dallas and now SJ. Just watch and listen. Itís not tough. Not saying they should be giving the Blues handies on the bench but the focus and Ďpraiseí is heavily tilted in these broadcasts. Itís not like these other teams have man handled the Blues either to garner that praise.....itís just a bias. Plain and simple.
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Honestly I haven't watched many Blues games, nor am I invested enough in any of the remaining teams to pay much attention to something like that. I tend to turn these games on when I get home from work and watch them while I'm doing other things. I know that kind of media bias exists in all professional sports though and it can be really irritating when it's against your team, so I understand your frustration.

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Honestly I haven't watched many Blues games, nor am I invested enough in any of the remaining teams to pay much attention to something like that. I tend to turn these games on when I get home from work and watch them while I'm doing other things. I know that kind of media bias exists in all professional sports though and it can be really irritating when it's against your team, so I understand your frustration.

There is a way for the  Blues to do something about it and that win the Cup. Maybe....just maybe then they might get a smidgen of respect. Until then I suppose I get why itís always the other team.  Itís just annoying.



Iím still fuming about that Fn hand pass  :mehlin  :censored
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Five bucks says one, some or all of these clowns work another playoff game in the next month.

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I donít know, I think the refs and league know they fucked up, and the refs from the SJ/VGK series didnít move on after their screw up. Who knows...but the league has a huge mess to clean up. San Jose fans can never complain about officiating again
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I donít know, I think the refs and league know they fucked up, and the refs from the SJ/VGK series didnít move on after their screw up. Who knows...but the league has a huge mess to clean up. San Jose fans can never complain about officiating again

At least not in this post season. Series changing major call and now this game winner. Although, seeing how pissed the Blues players are right now Iím hopeful that just gave them the spark they needed to stop messing around. Iím still yet to be impressed by what Iíve seen from SJ...lots of fortunate goals with a couple legit ones sprinkled in there. So, Iím still not convinced theyíll win this series.
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Here we go again.  Yes it was a bad no-call, but THE BLUES BLEW A TWO GOAL LEAD TO TIE IT!!!!!  Once again, blaming the refs for the team's failing to STOP THE OTHER TEAM!!!  The Saints, Knights and Blues all had leads and lost them.  Actually, the Blues were less than two minutes from winning it and failed.
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Canít disagree though that thereís been some horrible officiating this post season
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Here we go again.  Yes it was a bad no-call, but THE BLUES BLEW A TWO GOAL LEAD TO TIE IT!!!!!  Once again, blaming the refs for the team's failing to STOP THE OTHER TEAM!!!  The Saints, Knights and Blues all had leads and lost them.  Actually, the Blues were less than two minutes from winning it and failed.

Homer statement if I ever saw one. Did you even see the play?  It's FAR different than the VGK call in that the blown call directly resulted in the game winning OT goal. The Blues never had a 2 goal lead - it was the Sharks that blew two 2-goal leads.

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How the hell can the league allow a hand pass?(obvious to everyone watching)
Dud they not review it?  I just saw the play.
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Not reviewable.  With the way technology is these days, the number of cameras and angles available, there needs to be less restrictions on clear infractions that are missed by the human eye in real time.  I don't understand this notion of how some rules are reviewable, but others are not.  I mean, this one was blatant and obvious.  Same with the puck-over-glass that was missed (via Perron) earlier in the game.  Those things take a 15-second phone call from the situation room ... "hey guys, you missed this one.  Here's the right call".

The game is too fast for the refs to catch everything.  Missed / subjective calls during the course of the game are one thing.  A missed call that DIRECTLY determines the outcome of the game... that can't happen.  Like the NFL, who review EVERY scoring play... why can't the NHL do that?  And any direct infraction should be reviewable.

At least it wasn't Dallas/Buffalo OT-cup-winning-goal scenario.  Could you imagine that?
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Heard on the radio that the Sharks are 6-1 and the Blues are 0-4 with him reffing.



After the Blue Jackets scored a goal that went off the netting, there was some thought that the league would immediately fix these kind if scenarios.
Even Tuukka Rask mused that what would happen if this was OT in Game 7 of the finals.



EDIT: Oh my. I just watched the play. WTF?
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Here we go again.  Yes it was a bad no-call, but THE BLUES BLEW A TWO GOAL LEAD TO TIE IT!!!!!  Once again, blaming the refs for the team's failing to STOP THE OTHER TEAM!!!  The Saints, Knights and Blues all had leads and lost them.  Actually, the Blues were less than two minutes from winning it and failed.

Avoiding the fact that the Blues never had a 2-goal lead, which means you have your facts wrong, this is a terrible take.  If you're a Sharks fan, take the gift and think yourself lucky, but don't even try to act like it wasn't bull shit.

This was far worse than the Saints/Rams thing, because this botched non-call literally ended the game.  The outcome of the game was 100% influenced by the 4 (!!!!) officials inability to see a blatant hand pass in the offensive zone that led directly to the winning goal. 

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It amazes me the restrictions to the obvious moments that need replay.  This happens in all sports.  Just an egregious use of replay.
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I get that missed calls happen, but how do four officials all miss a hand pass??  Are none of them actually watching the puck.  I saw a comment last night that the officials probably didn't sleep last night because of it. Good. I hope this costs them future playoff games resulting in loss of income.

And to be clear, there is no conspiracy. The league doesn't win the Sharks to win, despite their officiating now potentially giving them two asterisks on series wins this postseason. It is just gross incompetence.

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It truly is.  This is why in such big moments they have instant replay for.  These moments but because 4 refs didn't see it, it can't be reviewed?   
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Here we go again.  Yes it was a bad no-call, but THE BLUES BLEW A TWO GOAL LEAD TO TIE IT!!!!!  Once again, blaming the refs for the team's failing to STOP THE OTHER TEAM!!!  The Saints, Knights and Blues all had leads and lost them.  Actually, the Blues were less than two minutes from winning it and failed.

Avoiding the fact that the Blues never had a 2-goal lead, which means you have your facts wrong, this is a terrible take.  If you're a Sharks fan, take the gift and think yourself lucky, but don't even try to act like it wasn't bull shit.

This was far worse than the Saints/Rams thing, because this botched non-call literally ended the game.  The outcome of the game was 100% influenced by the 4 (!!!!) officials inability to see a blatant hand pass in the offensive zone that led directly to the winning goal.

Yeah.....I get heís happy about his team winning but a non call hook or high stick or in the case of missing Perronís delay of game isnít even in the same ball park as missing a pretty clear hand pass that ended the game. With SJís PP that has been 3 for itís last 27 and the Blues PK that is killing at something like a 90% rate.....Perronís non call didnít mean SJ missed out on a goal. This non call resulted in a BS goal that won the Fn game.
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Re: Official 2018-2019 NHL Thread - v. Someone always screws the Blues
« Reply #941 on: May 16, 2019, 08:40:34 AM »
OK sorry I thought it was 4-2 at some point.  I missed the 2nd.

Again, none of this would have happened if the Blues would have stopped the Sharks in the last 2 minutes, that's my point.  I'm not saying the Blues didn't get screwed, but letting the Sharks get that fourth goal is square on them. 
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Re: Official 2018-2019 NHL Thread - v. Someone always screws the Blues
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OK sorry I thought it was 4-2 at some point.  I missed the 2nd.

Again, none of this would have happened if the Blues would have stopped the Sharks in the last 2 minutes, that's my point.  I'm not saying the Blues didn't get screwed, but letting the Sharks get that fourth goal is square on them.

No shit, Sherlock, but that has nothing to do with what happened in OT. 

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After the Blue Jackets scored a goal that went off the netting, there was some thought that the league would immediately fix these kind if scenarios.
Even Tuukka Rask mused that what would happen if this was OT in Game 7 of the finals.

I remember when that happened when the Red Wings scored on the Kings in a similar manner back in 2013 to tie the game late in the 3rd and eventually win it.  That wasn't a fun day.  They still hadn't changed it and make these kinds of goals reviewable since then?  F'en joke.
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Here we go again.  Yes it was a bad no-call, but THE BLUES BLEW A TWO GOAL LEAD TO TIE IT!!!!!  Once again, blaming the refs for the team's failing to STOP THE OTHER TEAM!

There are two distinct issues.

The refs fucked up on that game-winning goal.  That's an unarguable fact, regardless of where one's rooting allegiance lies.

That the team that was on the wrong end of that fucked up (non-)call had opportunities to score more goals or prevent the winning team from scoring goals before that fucked up (non-)call (e.g., the Sharts blew a 2 goal lead) is a completely unrelated issue.

An inexcusably bad (non-)call needs to be called out for what it is, and minimizing the egregiousness of what happened by pointing out that the Blues had other opportunities in the game has nothing to do with it.


After the Blue Jackets scored a goal that went off the netting, there was some thought that the league would immediately fix these kind if scenarios.
Even Tuukka Rask mused that what would happen if this was OT in Game 7 of the finals.

I remember when that happened when the Red Wings scored on the Kings in a similar manner back in 2013 to tie the game late in the 3rd and eventually win it.  That wasn't a fun day.  They still hadn't changed it and make these kinds of goals reviewable since then?  F'en joke.

You're talking about the goal where the puck bounced off the net behind the net and then off of Quick's back and into the net?  That was lame, but it was an early regular season game, so not quite the same magnitude.
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